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- čas přidán 18. 06. 2022
- An unwarranted ejection from an umpire in the CABL. Ends the game and calls Warren County Sheriff to file police report. The video demonstrated there was no physical contact between the umpires or the players, in fact the umpire can be seen shoulder checking Diaz.
The CABL decided to suspend the Pitcher 15 games or half the season and the first baseman 2 games.
Edit: The umpire was relieved by the UA for his behavior from this video and after the game. - Hry
Umpire brings this all on himself. It is all about timing and body language. The first thing from the pitcher... the umpire popped up as if to call a strike and did not. This is bad timing and improper mechanics, bringing on criticism.
After the conference, the umpire was coming up and calling a strike before the catcher even caught the ball. Again, bad timing and improper mechanics. Umpire should NEVER say "one more... and you/he are done"... that is a classic bait and hook move that nearly always results in an ejection. Coach or player has to say something to save face. Umpire wants the last word. Umpire is squatting down after the pitcher starts his motion, so he is not set long enough to get a good look without head movement.
When you eject someone, you point once and announce it and then do NOT walk towards the person you ejected, you walk away. I agree, the player did not say anything. This umpire invited the confrontation. 5:03 - the umpire turns to directly confront the player physically..... that is an absolute no-no. The BU should have been flying in by this point to get the coach and players away from his partner.
Sorry, but as an umpire with 20+ years of experience, this is terrible game management, improper mechanics, bad timing... I think this league is above the PU's capabilities based on mechanics and game management.
yeah, I gotta agree and I haven't even seen the ejection yet... this umpire really needs to work on his plate mechanics, it's no surprise when you say bad mechanics led to the rest of the mess
I agree with everything you said but want to add that it really looks like the PU doesn't even want to be there. I'm going to guess he's probably been umpiring for a good amount of time and just doesn't enjoy it anymore but keeps getting games at this level. This umpire should be either be let go...however, there's a big shortage so assignors are in a tough position.
😂😂😂You think he should’ve paid his way through Harry Wendelstedt Umpire School for 50 bucks a game?
Well you are wrong, bla bla,, l so smart, he call ball before catcher catches ball. Pompous, the pitcher was showing him up. Bye, throw strikes, he couldn't, cry like a baby, you cover for him, l umped for 25 years ,
Remember Rodger Clements? Showed up umps next year what happened?
As a former 5 year old, I understand the first baseman and pitcher's attitudes.
you said it better than i could have
If the kid would quit crying in the stands we could understand what's going on
Don’t criticize the baby, “she’s ahead of development.” Every parent says that.
It might be a soft ejection but the reactions after the fact make it hard to feel bad for the defensive team.
Agree 100%
"he understands" still trying to go after other umpire is still uncalled for bumping the umpire is still uncalled for
Obviously more has been going on with the pitcher and umpire for more than 5 minutes to cause the ejection. It was obviously a low and away pitch and the pitcher argued, the umpire gave a warning, then the pitcher decided to press passed that and got tossed. He also got a 15 game suspension. They just don't hand out 15 game suspensions for anything. Clearly there is more history here than what the video is showing.
Imagine the stories they will tell at the BW3 afterwards as well as the next day on the jobsite. Grown men still playing baseball is awesome. Guys who think its the MLB are not...
I have to agree with the ump! The players were out of control emotionally. It doesn’t matter if he charged before he was thrown out or after. Coach you admitted it “he charged you!”
who ever said the player didnt bump into the ump needs to get her eyes checked... regardless poor sportmanship!!!
pitchers whining about shitty pitches. ya it gets old and ump handled it just fine. warned both sides and dealt with the drama queen
did the pitcher say "GIVE ME YOUR FACE" HAHAHAHAHAHA
Could institute a rule like hockey has regarding a captain and 2 alternates. Only those people are allowed to discuss rules or plays. A team collapsing on a umpire equals forfeiture. Any player/coach that isn't designated that argues with the umpire equals ejection. 2nd player/coach that violates that rule equals forfeiture.
Parents becoming a nuisance or unruly equals a team forfeiture.
That should fix a lot of problems.
Only the manager should be addressing and umpire about anything happening on the field. If a player or coach start talking (arguing) a call with me when I am on the field, I will give them about 15 to 20 seconds to say what they have to say. After that they either move on or the manager better be coming out to protect this person because at that point, I will tell them that is enough and if they keep going on about it they get the hook. Now in my 40 plus years of doing baseball from 8u coach pitch up through Collage ball I have had a total of 12 ejections and never had to stop a game because of conduct.
As far as the player bumping the umpire, to me it almost looks like the umpire bumped him with his right shoulder almost like a check in hockey.
@@harrisjessop1679 would you think it is acceptable for an ejection in 8u when a coach uses profanity against his own player and then throws his player to the ground?
@@im_random_seriously I would say yes, it's acceptable to eject and if I had a kid on that team, I would want that coach removed!
the video proves there was contact and if the player did nothign wrong he would of been suspended for 15 games
If his body language wasn't loud enough, pitcher made sure he was heard when he charged the ump. Assault does not require making contact. Good job, manboys.
Umpire ejects player at 4:47.
Plus that players' reaction was very chaotic. And making physical contact with the umpire didn't even make things any better. That was totally unnecessary. 😱🤬⚾
the ump would have been withing his rights to file assault charges on the dimwit
The catcher humming it into left field on the throw around after the strike out let’s me know what I’m watching here.
At least his crying is a lot less worse than the woman yelling “he doesn’t want to hit” in numerous similar videos.
That netting looks super safe. More holes then my underwear
sure, early trigger, but you cant argue balls and strikes and you cant run towards an umpire after a call. guy couldve been cooler about it but he clearly was getting abuse all game about his zone all game regardless of how good or bad he was as an umpire
Just another soft as f umpire who got mad after he blew a strike call. We see this all the time.
he ran over after he was ejected (which was uncalled for), it was the only reaction he's allowed to have because he's already been removed the game in what his view was an incredibly reactionary uncalled for ejection.
@@skinnie2838 if you think you can do better, than put your money where your mouth is and become an umpire or referee.
@@skinnie2838 just another sitting umpires who has never done game on field
@@mattculb6990 you aren't there to judge ejection is worthy or not Matt you going base of part of video. he was warn he didn't listen to the waring
#22 on the Braves, who appears to be a mountain of a man, did a good job to come in and prevent the other team from further physical escalation with the umpire. The other team quickly defused under his shadow. He did a nice job of using his size to defuse. Well done, big fella.
Everyone handled this terrible. That umpire was not managing the game well. I feel for him with the constant criticism, but we couldn't even hear what the pitcher said.
If you're going to eject a kid for words, they better be obvious, or really bad.
And what the hell was the umpire doing showing up the kid after he was ejected? You can't do that. Let him go.
The coach was the worst offender though. Never ever get physical. Calling the game felt like an overreaction but I may have done the same thing if the coach was physically intimidating me. That was the worst offense of all
It doesn't have to be obvious to us, the audience.
That was the first baseman.
the pitcher was warned about his antics on the mound if he didnt get a close call which the umpire warned both benches. the team in the blue uniforms hopefully didnt get their money back. plus, the pitcher made a threat
The pitch he was thrown out over was clearly low and away... But he still griped about it even after being warned... If you want good umpires... Pay more and don't expect them to put up with any of your crap!
The coach should have been ejected as soon as he charged the umpire and said "Are you crazy!"
Who was tossed and why?
Ejection is at 4:49 btw
I promise that, regardless of how hard it is to resist in the moment, it’s more satisfying to watch others lose their minds and merely watch in solemn silence, rather than engaging in the downward spiral.
It was the PU’s secondary reaction of responding to the charging players that ultimately caused the PU to get himself in trouble.
Poorly coached team to have responded the way they did. Even if you felt wronged by the ump, charging at them aggressively while dropping f-bombs is pretty awful behavior.
I promise that, regardless of how hard it is to resist in the moment, it’s more satisfying to watch others lose their minds and merely watch in solemn silence.
It was the PU’s secondary reaction of responding to the charging players that ultimately caused the PU to get himself in trouble.
Poorly coached team to have responded the way they did. Even if you felt wronged by the ump, charging at them aggressively while dropping f-bombs is pretty awful behavior.
At first I thought this was from my home area. There's a CABL there, plus a Warren County. And the umpire has a southern accent.
How many scouts were at this game?
The ump was ready to go home because that crying kid was getting under his skin.
Nothing about this description reflects what took place in the video. Completely warranted ejection. The pitcher verbally complained several times over ball/strike calls and was gesturing after just about every call that he thought she have gone his way. The umpire even extended the curtesy of calmly warning both teams that he was going to enforce the rules if it happened again. It almost immediately happens again and he issues the ejection, which was actually overdue. And the player is being held back while screaming "give me your face" to the umpire and when the umpire turns around he charges him and full on chest bumps him. Completely warranted ending the game at that point.
Personally I wouldn't have called the police over it, and there is no evidence that actually happened other than the description that blatantly lies about everything else that happened, so I take that with all the weight it deserves.
The uploader is a member of the team.
At first I thought it was a fan at 2:01 that said "Come on" complaining about the call but in watching it again it was the blue team's pitcher. As a umpire myself - that is not acceptable. Telling the coach to get his player in line, and then saying the same thing to the other team is the proper thing to do. Coach should have done a mound visit and settled his player down. Most likely the player did something else we could not hear for the next event that got him ejected. Personally, I would have handled this different, and talked to the pitchers coach again. Tell him to go straighten his player out or he is ejected - do this privately and without getting emotions going again. Yet lets be clear here the Umpire is not in the wrong, the Pitcher was totally out of line. Then charging the ump took this to the next level.
I don't have any issue with the ejection. Umpire warned both teams about reactions and complaints about the strike zone, and it seems like the pitcher did something demonstrative and the umpire threw him out.
Now, there are a TON of learning opportunities from this video. Lets start with the HPU.
- needs to work on timing - he is making his strike call about the time the ball hits the mitt. Too fast. Wait a couple seconds, then give your call. This improved timing will help with perception that you aren't changing calls or double-guessing your calls. Watch the pitch to the mitt, make the call in your head, then come up, and signal it.
- No issue with the warning of both teams regarding reactions to, or comments about the strike zone. It is actually the correct thing to do is to tell the coaches "This is your warning, if there is any additional complaining, then you or the player will be ejected" etc. Only opportunity would be to find the coach from the White team and give him the warning as well, not the batter (I think he warned the batter rather than find the coach). I like giving warnings like this to the coaches, let them manage their players.
- On the ejection, take the emotion out of it, and don't walk towards the player you ejected. Call TIME, take your mask off, and eject the player, then just go about your business; no need to give him the stare down, interact with him, just take out your lineup card, make the notation, and move on. I think the umpire caused a portion of the escalation from the pitcher here; just eject and move on.
- Now, I didn't see the whole game, and the sample size in the video is rather small to give feedback on the strike zone for the umpire. That being said, I will just give some general opinion on strike zone, and reducing complaints from either team. For everyone, calling balls and strikes is hard. Most people sit back in their sofa, watch the pitch-track box on TV and then can't believe an umpire missed the call etc. Sometimes certain pitches look good, and sometimes they don't. Sometimes that first pitch of the game comes in right at the bottom of the knee, and it just doesn't look good - so I call it a ball. Defense doesn't like it, they want that call, you will get some chirping, but then when the bottom of the 1st rolls around, and you call that same pitch for the visiting team's pitcher a ball, both teams understand where the zone is now and move on. In my experience, CONSISTENCY is what makes your strike zone good. If the low pitch doesn't look good, then it must not look good all game long, you can't come back and start calling it a strike in the 3rd inning, or that causes complaints.
Now, coaches. I think the coach for the blue team did pretty well; his question didn't seem to be about the ejection, but about the calling of the game due to "contact" or aggressive behavior by the pitcher (absolutely unacceptable post-ejection behavior). That is a valid question; but here, if you're the umpires, and the head umpire (Home plate umpire) calls the game, you BOTH need to walk off immediately; not sit around. That is when things can get ugly fast. As the field umpire, you may not understand why, nor agree with why your partner ended the game, but he did, so you support him and walk off the field together; you can break it down and give feedback to each other post-game at your cars or at the pub or wherever you do your post-game reviews.
I think the biggest skill an umpire needs to develop if they want to be successful is game management. That involves making your calls consistent, your attitude when addressing coaches/players, not being aggressive, clearing up confusion (not causing it) etc.
My last bit of advice is an invitation for the fans/parents/people who watch the game and like to criticize the umpires. Before you do, come join us and try it. I promise it will change your outlook on umpires. Come put on the umpire uniform, call balls and strikes, call bang-bang plays in the field, be on the other side of crazy parents who don't actually understand the rules of baseball.
Are these all adults?
why is the pitcher ejected.
Can I just say, the Coach on the blue should have gone out there and prevented his Pitcher from getting tossed. I would’ve fought for my pitcher
Very hard to watch and listen to the game with the little kids talking and the other one crying!
Going out towards the pitcher like that is not a good idea.
That ump is softer then Toliet Paper. Freaks out everytime someone looks at him the wrong way
looked like the ump shoulder checked him to me.......
the umpire did exactly what he should have.....and this is why calling adult games is a joke...
The Blue Team definitely has a lot of immature players on their roster. Grow up and Play Ball. Don’t get in the Umpires face and bump him
Sorry boys, the pitcher proved the ump correct. His actions led to the warning and his body language was enough after that. Doesn't matter how bad or inconsistent the ump is. He set a line with his warning and the pitcher chose to cross it. Evidently CABL just pulled a 15 game suspension out of their backsides? I think not. They saw the same video and probably more. They didn't do that for nothing. Act like spoiled children and you should expect to be treated as such.
The glaring issue I see is the catchers inability to properly frame a pitch, although obviously low and out of the zone the catcher tried to make it look like a strike. As long as the pitcher isn't swearing at me or throwing at my face with intent to harm me I'd just umpire and manage the game and not care about his "body language" unless he's flipping off the plate umpire. However, I wasn't there in his shoes so as a fellow umpire I fully support his decision to eject the pitcher
@@kyleh1919 If you can tell a catcher is "framing a pitch", which we all can, you should also know he's doing it for a reason. Regardless, no actions by any catcher can change where in space the ball was when it crossed the plate.
@@mikemorgan5015 agreed, what I'm saying is at this age if the catcher can properly frame a close pitch I'll call it a strike all day long and be consistent with it. But the bad attitude from the pitcher comes from those failed pitch frames and not getting the call he wanted. If the framing is that clear you can't give them the call cause you'll be dealing with angry coaches not just a bad attitude from a player(s)
@@kyleh1919well you're doing a bad job if you're going based off of pitch framing instead of where you see the ball crossing the plate.
@@kyleh1919 - We really can't hear the pitcher in this video, either.
Can we get our money back. I laughed pretty hard at that one.
I hope #11 parents watch this video to see what a punk he is
And the parents taking up for these kids….what a joke.
Adult league.
The video does NOT demonstrate no physical contact. In fact, it demonstrates what the umpire called. Player should be banned for life.
pitcher definitely instigated some of that BS.
Throwing a fit/pouting cause he didn't get a call? Meandering around the mound like a child... Then raging at the ejection and trying to fight? Definitely some tensions building prior to this filmed interaction...
The catcher should work on his framing job and maybe some of those closer pitches would be called strikes.
As an umpire myself I ask the catcher why is he moving the glove in the middle of the plate when the pitch is already a strike so the next time he does it I’m calling ball!
2:03- umpire gives warning to coach
4:47- pitcher is ejected
dang it, 8 minutes 51 seconds i'll never get back in my life, smh
A mad game
Wow! First and foremost, that Pitcher should be banned from the Sport for his actions after being ejected! Charging and bumping an umpire? Then, he stares down the 2nd umpire after he tells the team to go to the bench. Reinforcing his entitled attitude. “ Who are you to tell me what to do”…….C’ mon Son. We’re you ever taught to respect?……How we’re you raised?
Second off, even after the warnings by the Ump ( to both sides….), the Pitcher continued to show his anger after every pitch he threw that WASN’T called a strike! What an entitled child! Lastly, “players” have to be taught that they don’t control the game……that’s the umpires job ( wether you like it or not) and the quicker they realize this, the more less likely they are to act like a child…..hence, the “Participation” trophy received in Little League.
Clearly you have not watched a MLB game with an ejection before cause those are a lot like this a lot of the time. It's not even clear if the pitcher bumped him from what I see so if we scratch that out this is a typical ejection reaction in even in the MLB world especially when tempers are flaring. The pitcher shouldn't be banned for getting upset after being ejected for something that in the end wasn't true. Sure he was mad, and probably had every right to be given the improper timing and such the umpire was using which could also nearly guarantee that his zoning for calling balls and strikes were everywhere, but that shouldn't mean an ejection. He didn't say anything and was just nonverbally upset and trying to keep it together to NOT get ejected. I'm not seeing any entitlement from him anywhere just simply a lot of frustration at an umpire that seemed to be a bit out of touch with how to be one.
@@tanksgoboom6254 Oh, I missed the part where this was an MLB game🤣……..oh that’s right, it’s not! First and foremost, I’m 59 years of age so to say I’ve never seen an MLB game with an ejection is moronic. Secondly, between all of my sons, I have trained, Coached and Managed more than my share of Little League ball, Baseball League, Travel league ball and a short stint of High School ball. I’m not saying that as a badge of courage, just establishing that this isn’t my first rodeo. Now, that was many years ago but the fundamentals of this game still remain: Respect the game, Respect your fellow players, respect your Mangers and Coaches, and above all, respect the Umpires. You see @Tanksgoboom , those “bad calls” against your team eventually even out for both teams…….if not immediately during THAT game, later on in the Season. Maybe you’ve heard that before…..it’s the “ unwritten rule” of Baseball. It doesn’t give players the privilege to act childishly and make fools of themselves because they believed they got a bad call! Time to man up and move on.
@@eddiew.6485 the big problem with what you are saying is that time has severely changed. We are at a point to where if you don't call stuff like that out on the moment. Stuff like this will keep happening cause it's never addressed. Even looking at the comments from other people who are umpires even seem to agree with me that the ump was in the huge wrong with how he was doing things. This isn't a point in time where staying silent is the manly thing to do all the time. Sometimes you do have to speak up about it. I've pitched in games where the ump was like that for his calls and I was getting frustrated myself to where I was getting upset at things that were not called strikes that i felt like they should have been. The big difference from mine and this one is that the umpire didn't say anything about it cause he understood that sometimes that's how passionate we get about the sport at times. Most of that anger the pitcher showed was him venting out frustrations out loud most likely to himself to stay calm, a lot of fellow pitchers do it, even me. That pitcher clearly has a huge passion for the sport and I respect that. This situation could have easily been avoided if the umpire didn't bait the pitcher for the ejection. It's not a good look on anyone when umpires do that since then when it does happen even more anger is suddenly going to be directed at the umpire itself. That's what ultimately what caused the situation to happen to begin with so in my opinion it's the fault of the umpire for this situation arising which happens all too often in any age baseball league where there's an actual pitcher on the mound. My respect for the pitcher for being able to resist his anger enough to where his teammates could get to him and do their best to help him calm down
@@tanksgoboom6254 We agree to disagree✋😎🤚 I stand behind both comments.
@@eddiew.6485 I mean whatever you say but it looks like more people are on my side than yours so it's technically one sided anyway. You can have your wrong opinion.
Completely agree with the umpire in this matter (and I've had a lot of disagreements with blue). The umpire gave notice to the pitcher about his attitude and the pitcher showed him up in the umpire's eyes. As to the 1st baseman, (we used to call this guy softball guy), his attitude was outrageous and completely disrespectful to the umpire. Did the 1st baseman think this was game 7 of the Series? Did he think scouts were there to sign him? It's a recreational league game, cool your jets dude. You are supposed to be there for a fun time, stop being an ass. I can't disagree with the calls on the field but I would have kicked the 1st baseman out for the 15 games too. I'm guessing this is not the first time for these two players.
Kids throwing gas.
it may have been fast, but it wasn't controllable. he had no idea where to place the ball. but in a prima donna's mind anything from dugout to dougout and nose to toes should be a strike.
those guys are too old to act that way
Nobody going to compare this ump to that crying baby?
can't touch the Ump. that definitely is means to call the game.
Just read the police report part tho! what a joke!
Paper-thin skin ump. What a baby.
Gosh kids r brats these days if i did that id never play again in my life
Tough Job For One Ump At This Age-Group.
Can we at least cut the ends off the zip ties? Amateurs..
blue team is as about as childish as that crying child
and nothing happened to that ump because they cant find umps........
The crying baby is the annoying part of this video
Wht. Why argue you will not win
I would imagine the umpire was getting tired of the pitchers whining and then warned both sides. The umpire is judge, jury and executioner on the field and you should play accordingly especially after a warning. The first baseman should have controlled his pitcher and not charge the umpire in a effort to keep playing. Further, flexing on a older man does not make you a tough guy, it makes you a A-Hole. There is usually one of these guys on most adult teams.
Could not disagree with you more. Inexcusable for the coaches of the blue team to allow their players to behave that way.
If people would chill out, you won’t get ejected. You aren’t gonna change their mind by acting like a 2 year old. “Oh you know what?! You’re right that was a strike. Okay batter strike 3 you’re out now. Come off first base from a walk i just issued” pffft SHUT YOUR ASSES UP PEOPLE! Just cheer your team on. Oh BY the way. It’s a game that you’ll forget all about within a week. By a year you won’t even remember what day it is. Freakin chill out
Take the kid for a walk.
Bunch of babies is all I see (and hear)
They were prolly mad about the crying kid
Don’t bring small kids so they can cry and people can’t hear the game, rude
Ah, yes. Adult baseball. Guys with beer bellies and bad knees trying to relive their youth. It's worse than Little League. Instead of obnoxious parents in the stands, they're now on the field playing the game and being just as obnoxious.
Pitcher is a giant manbaby
The ejection, we have no idea if he said anything or really what he was doing. Everything after the hook was caused by the ejection. The plate ump should have walked away after making the call instead of getting back in the pitchers face. There is no excuse for the bumping and confrontation, and the pitcher did keep egging the ump on by saying 'tell it to my face'.
You payed to play this game, then act like that 😂😂😂
way more to this situation people. the he didn't say anything crowd has no idea how much body language says about sportsmanship. the obvious facial expressions and arm swinging after each pitch gets old real quick when ur an official. nothing worse than a 10 year old mugging after a pitch is called a ball. In this case the umpire had enough, but I do agree that he could have addressed it with the catcher who could have called time and had a conversation with the pitcher. Lack of baseball smarts contributed to this for sure.
Well, the umpire chose to warn the pitcher by speaking to the coach at the dugout, instead of sending the catcher out to cool down the pitcher. The coach eventually went out to the mound, though he waited a long time to do that. If I was the coach, I would have been out there immediately, warning my pitcher to watch both what he says AND his body language. We simply cannot see or hear the pitcher very well; the netting makes it difficult, and the crowd noises make it extremely difficult to hear who is saying what.
I’ve read some complaints about the umpire and his mechanics, but players and coaches have to learn that the umpiring is something over which they have no control. It’s best to just play out the game, and if the umpiring is bad, then it’s the coaches responsibility to take matters up with the head of the league. That can ONLY happen AFTER, not DURING, a game. During the game, you just have to bear down, and realize that there’s nothing players and coaches can do.
The ONLY person who should be complaining is the coach. He needs to keep his team on the bench, and away from the umpires. No umpire should ever have to order a large group of players and other coaches back to the dugout. The coach needs to be more in control of his team, and be the ONLY authorized person to discuss an issue with an umpire. Everyone else, including the ejected player, should just go either to their positions, or to the dugout.
The expectation is that the strike zone is consistent, which it should be. Some umpires are going to have tighter zones than others. The job of the pitchers and batters is to adjust to the zone. And NEVER make physical contact with an umpire. That leads to multiple game suspensions, and it’s one reason why so many officials are leaving officiating.
He talked to the coach who then talked to the pitcher.
F-bombs are auto eject. Boom.
And that's why we have a lack of officials in all sports because of this. Show me your fucken face lol 🤣 😂 😆 .
At 1:40 he throws a high ball and the catcher froze it thinking it was a strike. The pither caught the throw back from him and the motion he made was disaproval. Pitcher was wrong there though, it was a ball. At 1:58 pitcher threw a borderline inside pitch that could have been called either way. He made a 'aww' noise and caught the ball with disgust after it was called a ball. The ump gave a warning for this which is INCREDIBLY soft on the umps part.
At 4:45 he throws a pitch which the ump called a strike earlier. The pitcher caught the ball and walked away in frustration. Since the ump already warned everyone that pitcher couldnt even show FRUSTRATION he threw him out. This ump should not be umpiring ball games. Pitcher was out of line with how he talked to the ump after but honestly I do not blame him one bit. He barely did anything here and he got thrown out because the ump is just soft.
Its mens league baseball bro umpires WILL make mistakes (at every level, but especially at non-pro levels), even if the ump was wrong, handled it poorly, had bad mechancis etc. and the player was frustrated him he can't threaten the guy and get all in his face like that. He's basically a volunteer. Again, this is men's league. If it were any sort of competitive ball maybe they could be excused for being passionate but this ain't that
I umpired for years so I know if can be a difficult job, but this guy clearly had some sort of vendetta against the pitcher. Frankly he should no longer be allowed to umpire.
disagree. i only saw 1 pitch that was borderline. pitcher was acting out his frustrations with not getting every call in his favor. he needs to take up theater and leave baseball to the big boys. and that fan/dad chirping all game long deserved to take a long hike.
Just another soft as f umpire who got mad after he blew a strike call. We see this all the time.
@@BigSkyCurmudgeon so wrong man. Players are allowed to have a bodily reaction to any call on the field, any good umpire knows this, it's just part of competing (and this is amateur ball not pro!). It's when a player starts contesting a call and repeatedly saying it's wrong, then the umpire has a right to begin to escalate and protect their authority. As for fans, any good umpire knows those fans weren't anywhere near crossing the lines barely any profanity or anything offensive, anyways the fans line is a lot thicker than the players lines behaviorally...
@@mattculb6990 You are correct they are but when they start showing the umpire ump it has gone too far. The pitcher pushed it as far as the umpire wanted to let it go, was warned, and then continued to do it so the umpire tossed him. I think it was a little quick but what inning is it and how many times did the pitcher show the umpire up?
@@Glock2201 At 1:40 he throws a high ball and the catcher froze it thinking it was a strike. The pither caught the throw back from him and the motion he made was disaproval. Pitcher was wrong there though, it was a ball. At 1:58 pitcher threw a borderline inside pitch that could have been called either way. He made a 'aww' noise and caught the ball with disgust after it was called a ball. The ump gave a warning for this which is INCREDIBLY soft on the umps part.
At 4:45 he throws a pitch which the ump called a strike earlier. The pitcher caught the ball and walked away in frustration. Since the ump already warned everyone that pitcher couldnt even show FRUSTRATION he threw him out. This ump should not be umpiring ball games. Pitcher was out of line with how he talked to the ump after but honestly I do not blame him one bit. He barely did anything here and he got thrown out because the ump is just soft.
So the hook was for "bullshit" and calling it was for the shove? That's my interpretation.
Adult league I'd bet. Never was never will be's
Baseball still suck ass...lmao😂😂😂
Umip just wost league
Over reaction by both players and umpire. Umpires have to have better game management. Eject and walk away. Don't raise your voice unless absolutely necessary.
I can’t believe you’re defending the umpires what wrong with you
don't eject players unless a player does something to call for an ejection.....
@Evan Kirk there really isn't such a thing as a player overreacting to an unnecessary ejection (which this very much was). the whole point of an ejection is a player has already overreacted and can't seem to simmer down over a call. if there is any ejection the player should already be at their peak reaction and frustration and the ejection is really a way to relieve the pressure and anger in the dugout by getting that guy outta there. Also Players are allowed to have a bodily reaction to any call on the field, any good umpire knows this. It's when you start contesting a call and saying it's wrong than the umpire has a right to begin to escalate and protect their authority.. Mostly the issue is that these umpires have no balls and have no understanding of the emotions that come with competitiveness, the field umpire should've prevented his partner from escalating this that far, there's really no other way to view this altercation.
this is amateur baseball remember....
@@mattculb6990 The overreaction by the player was following the ejection, not before. The game management by this umpire is very poor.
This umpire was trying to find a way to go home early. It must of been HOT out there.
Yup
The umpire did everything 100% correctly. What kind of loser "parent" would complain about this?
Ummm no. The umpire initiated contact and charged towards the pitcher, prolonging this whole incident. Toss him and walk away
@@zgaviation6481 LOL. Wrong, mouth breather.
@@kelsteand Wow. Insults instead of actually responding to my claims. Nice work
@@zgaviation6481 your claims are facetious and ludicrous also
@@BigSkyCurmudgeon Did you even watch the video? At 5:03, he turns and walks toward the pitcher and at 5:05, sticks his chest out and makes contact with the pitcher. What part of that is untrue or ludicrous? The tape doesn't lie.
Ump was looking for a reason to call the game so he could go home. He didn't want to be there.
Aboustly inexusbale by the team they were warn there no excuse for a coach to act this way by any means. they need to be let go period
The hyper sensitive umpire was just looking for an excuse to throw the pitcher out of the game. It appeared he did not like his "authority" challenged. The moment he turned and went after the pitcher says everything about the umpire. He does not deserve to be behind the plate.
Both teams know how horrible this is. Ump needs to learn how to manage a game, and stop making it about himself. Understand that the pitcher does get a little frustrated when a pitch he believes is a strike is called a ball. Understand that he frustration may not be at you, but at the fact that he cannot make the pitch. This guy acts like he is the center of attention, so why is he so upset when he does become the center of attentional. If you are going to destroy a game as an ump, be prepared for the consequences.
"The CABL decided to suspend the Pitcher 15 games or half the season and the first baseman 2 games." I would not allow my child to play if the CABL morons treated my child like they did these two. The ump was a power hungry loser and he should have been suspended for 3 seasons and ordered to take anger management classes.
Maybe teach your children then that life isn't fair sometimes and to hold their emotions in and not go ballistic.
@@DirtyDrawers-kp3jm Sure, teach your kids that umpires, police officers, politicians and judges don't have to be fair, all they have to do is misuse their power and you have to bow down to them. You sound like a typical democrat. I was taught that if I made a mistake I should admit it and correct it. I thank God my parents weren't moronic democrats.
Players are allowed to have a bodily reaction to any call on the field, any good umpire knows this. It's when you start contesting a call and saying it's wrong than the umpire has a right to begin to escalate. Also these umpire have no balls, the field umpire should've prevented his partner from escalating this that far.
one of the more over the top stupid and unnecessary calls I've ever seen in amateur baseball.
Blaming this on the field umpire is not fair.
@@evankirk5937 I dont mean to blame either solely, but they both clearly forgot that their job is not a solo job, it's a partnership (trio/quarter) where calls like this need to be made together or at least able to be supported by their partner.
I'll give you that players should be allowed to have some bodily reaction to any call on the field. However, as with anything, there's limits. Ivebtried to watch it over and over again, but I can't see what the player did or do not do as the camera os too far away.
The umpire, to his credit whether you agree or not, calmy talked both benches and told them that whatever was going on he had enough and didn't want to see anymore. I've reffed and see enough games from various other sports where you don't get that courtesy.
As for the ump to just calmly walk away, you have no idea how hard that is. Especially giving a warning, when you're being yelled at and berated for making what you believe to be the right call, you want nothing more then to meet the same level and start yelling back why you're right. I've been there countless times. I've only lost my cool once after being decked. Even that's too many. But man it's soo hard.
@@gmsubzeropsp It helps to disassociate from the moment and watch what's happening in third person in situations like this. Does that make sense? For me I realize that none of this matters and I need to show as little emotion as possible when things even have a chance to get heated. I think this umpire did a very poor job of managing the moment but that in no way excuses a player making physical contact and hurling profanities. That's why I said I think both have blame here in another comment thread.
ridiculous overreaction by the plate umpire
not really its very hard to see antything pitcher is doing in the view with the net you can only see plate umpire
you must be on the blue team lol or still living at home
Just another soft as f umpire who got mad after he blew a strike call. We see this all the time.
So the pitcher is not to blame at all?
@@Glock2201 Before he was thrown out? No. All he did was show frustration and it was TAME. Anyone who has ever played a competitive sport and not been complete trash knows the pitcher did nothing wrong there.
Now, if you want to talk about what he did AFTER as far as getting up in the umps face about it we can talk about that. Because the ump made his ruling, garbage as it was, the pitcher wasnt going to make anything better by talking to him the way he did.
@@skinnie2838 With the screen in the way and the audio being terrible it was tough for me to see what he did or hear what he said.
@@Glock2201 At 1:40 he throws a high ball and the catcher froze it thinking it was a strike. The pither caught the throw back from him and the motion he made was disaproval. Pitcher was wrong there though, it was a ball. At 1:58 pitcher threw a borderline inside pitch that could have been called either way. He made a 'aww' noise and caught the ball with disgust after it was called a ball. The ump gave a warning for this which is INCREDIBLY soft on the umps part.
At 4:45 he throws a pitch which the ump called a strike earlier. The pitcher caught the ball and walked away in frustration. Since the ump already warned everyone that pitcher couldnt even show FRUSTRATION he threw him out. This ump should not be umpiring ball games. Pitcher was out of line with how he talked to the ump after but honestly I do not blame him one bit. He barely did anything here and he got thrown out because the ump is just soft.
@@skinnie2838 What was SAID by players to cause the warnings? How can you be sure that no warnings from saying something were warranted?
Why does the ump hurry and run away....because he knows he sucks.... can't believe anyone was suspended for any amount of time. ump should be never allowed to ump....and last maybe take care of your kid my hell. 8 mins of a kid is annoying.
This umpire definitely has confidence issues, so he overcompensates by throwing his weight around. It looked like the pitcher turned around and was starting to rub the ball. Then in the confrontation, the umpire threw his shoulder into the one he was arguing with and thus initiated the contact. At the very least, the umpires should not get their game checks.
oh look someone who never been on field