Did you say TAKEOFF power or take OFF power? Phraseology Mistakes To Avoid

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  • @Lostcomms7600
    @Lostcomms7600 Před rokem +11

    10/10 great advice! I can’t emphasize enough how much flying on the VATSIM network has helped me to get comfortable talking to ATC.

  • @jasonchipkin
    @jasonchipkin Před rokem +4

    "Go Ahead" is an authorized ATC term meaning "proceed with your message." 7110.65 Pilot/Controller Glossary, PCG-G2 👍

  • @LRobichauxIV
    @LRobichauxIV Před rokem +5

    10 for 10. Great topic! Jason, why is it improper to say "looking for traffic"? I typically say "looking for traffic" and then report back once I have traffic in sight. It will be no problem to start responding with "negative contact" ... just curious why.

  • @jonmitchell5266
    @jonmitchell5266 Před rokem

    10 for 10. As a full time police officer, and now a student pilot I’ve had a little struggle breaking some of the cop talk on the radio. But I’m getting better.

  • @johnfriend862
    @johnfriend862 Před rokem +1

    Jason, I had a CFII who always said "got them on the fish finder", it drove me absolutely crazy. ATC only wants to know that you have VISUAL contact to maintain separation. OTOH, "Tallyho" is a very old pilot's term for "in sight", some old timers (or people who were trained by old timers) will always use it. It will go away sooner or later. I believe it actually started with fighter pilots, announcing they had enemy aircraft in sight and were engaging. It was short for the saying "tally-ho, and away we go" which was a popular phrase from some radio program as I recollect. My father was a pilot in WWII, so of course I heard lots of stories about that kind of trivia.
    Talking about using proper phonetic alphabet, I'm a police officer and we use a totally different phonetic alphabet than standard military, which is what pilots use. I do get confused, and at least twice have caught myself saying "10-4" to ATC. It's embarrassing, but I just said "sorry, I'm a police officer" and they got a good chuckle. Great points on everything else.

  • @mickyxz
    @mickyxz Před rokem +1

    10/10 Nice Job, Jason! (talley ho, matey) 🙂
    But seriously, my biggest pet peeve: "ABC Traffic - Cessna 23mz - final runway 32, ABC TRAFFIC." It's a traffic sandwich, and it makes me think that they are starting a second call!

  • @hugovandenberg313
    @hugovandenberg313 Před rokem +4

    10/10. I'm starting my VFR RT practical course on Sunday. So useful this video. One two zero decimal five five officially BTW. We have a CFI with an F at the end of his registration and he keeps abbreviating 'Foxtrot' to 'Fox'. That kind of lazyness causes accidents.

  • @user-tx5sp2tg2w
    @user-tx5sp2tg2w Před rokem +3

    I am a late starter student pilot from the UK with only 15hrs and am 10 for 10! Keeping the communication concise and consistent is key and helps me remember what and when to say, by using the right terminology. Great videos

  • @kylebeatty3466
    @kylebeatty3466 Před rokem +1

    For me, possibly the best video in the series so far. Points out many of my shortcomings . I need to improve.

  • @brianschalme1457
    @brianschalme1457 Před rokem +1

    10 / 10.
    Interesting though: NAV CANADA’s VFR Phraseology Guide (Version 3, April 2022) calls for us to say “Looking for traffic” as well as “Traffic in sight”.

  • @azcharlie2009
    @azcharlie2009 Před rokem +1

    Sometimes, at very busy none towered airports, using just the three alpha numeric digits of a call sign is a good idea. But, only after the first identifying call. One airport I fly to often is used for IFR approach training. They constantly tie up the frequency, stacking inbound traffic over a VOR up to 7500 feet!. So, shorter is better than not at all, like some folks do at this airport. 10/10

  • @drcode4
    @drcode4 Před rokem

    10 for 10. I am guilty of saying "Looking" and am going to change that. Thanks Jason.

  • @matteovinci83
    @matteovinci83 Před rokem

    10 for 10, was just discussing this the other day with some German friends, they are all about being clear concise and precise. They help keep me in line,

  • @AndrewChronisterTV
    @AndrewChronisterTV Před rokem

    10/10. Good coms are important. I hate making controllers or center repeat something, but I’ve got no shame asking them to do it.

  • @erniekelly2479
    @erniekelly2479 Před rokem

    Metric dozen. Our club 172 is "One Four Kilo Mike." I'd never heard of another Kilo Mike at all and got to where that was all I listened for until the afternoon there were THREE Kilo Mikes in the pattern and one was something like "Two Seven Four Kilo Mike." We initially answered each other's calls until the controller started including aircraft descriptors, "Skyhawk one-four-kilo-mike..." "Baron seven-four-kilo-mike" and so on. I'm messing up the numbers and aircraft types, but it was a learning experience.

  • @heathjarvis2362
    @heathjarvis2362 Před rokem

    10 for 10. Great stuff, Jason!
    I learned how to fly in a non-electrical aircraft (1946 Luscombe 8A with Continental C-65 engine). I learned how to hand-start an airplane very early in my flight training. One thing that irks me is when guys use phraseology like "mags hot" or "mags on". The words "hot" and "on" both have a short "o" sound, which can make them easily confused with "off" which also has a short "o" sound.
    One day, I was hand-starting a Champ for a flying buddy of mine. As we walked to the airplane, I told him that I prefer to use "mags off" when the mags are off and "contact" when the mags are on. He agreed. When we got out to the airplane, he used the phrase "mags hot". Fortunately, my hearing was good and I didn't mistake his phraseology for "mags off".
    In a noisy place like a busy airport, or even a windy airport that's not busy, proper phraseology between the guy in the cockpit and the hand-propper when hand-starting an airplane is crucial. I would hate to be pulling the prop through to prime the cylinders while the mags were hot...er, I mean on...uh, I mean contact! 😏

  • @keithluce6825
    @keithluce6825 Před rokem

    10/10. I’m guilty of “climbing to”. Thanks for the refresher.

  • @glennwatson
    @glennwatson Před rokem +1

    10/10 I discovered ‘negative contact’ last year through this channel. Standard phraseology here in Australia as well. My instructor never had heard of it but it’s in our manuals. The other thing I use thanks to this channel is flight following a lot more. Radio calls are the same as in the tutorials.

  • @justplanefred
    @justplanefred Před rokem

    There is definitely a few that I never would have thought that would be a conflicting statement until you mentioned it.

  • @tingzhong8243
    @tingzhong8243 Před rokem

    Love you Jason, but gotta ironically laugh with “misconskewed” and “misconstrued.” 😂 You are still awesome in my book! Tim

  • @tristanbush3374
    @tristanbush3374 Před rokem

    10/10, great snap by the way! Looks like I have not heard everything on the radio after "gottem on the fish finder".

  • @lerouretan1937
    @lerouretan1937 Před rokem

    10/10 and I am right behind you on good RT.
    Interesting though how USA and Europe differ on some standard phraseology:
    You say: Line up and wait
    We say: Line up
    You say: Negative contact
    We say: Traffic not sighted
    And we don't say Tally ho any more, but we do say Wilco & Roger rather a lot ;-)

  • @jjkrmain
    @jjkrmain Před rokem +1

    Actually heard this all from the same plane. Tower-"Say direction of departure". P-"We're going to Payson". Tower-"Say direction of departure"! P-"Payson is up in the mountains". Tower-"Say direction of departure"!! P-"We'll just fly straight out". Tower-"Say direction of departure"!!! P-" FINE-departing to the east"!!. Some people just don't get it.

  • @wormyboot
    @wormyboot Před rokem

    10/10 When I was in the Army, our sister unit had an incident where a Stryker ran over a pickup truck. It was all due to the difference between no and go.

  • @michaelj.mcmurray540
    @michaelj.mcmurray540 Před rokem

    10 for 10: I have never heard a pilot say Tally ho but I have heard some reference the "Fish Finder" on the radio. I was fortunate enough to have CFIs that taught me this was not a good practice so its not something I ever picked up on myself.

  • @daveeverhart7720
    @daveeverhart7720 Před rokem

    10 for 10. Thank you, Jason ! 😊

  • @corymeares4424
    @corymeares4424 Před rokem

    Loving this series! I'd add in avoiding the usual "aaaaaaaaaaand" at the beginning of a transmission 🙄

  • @brucecuratola6389
    @brucecuratola6389 Před rokem

    10 for 10 - an instructor recently corrected me when I was doing pattern work “downwind for 14” while I was turning. It may be a small difference but in a tight pattern it could make a difference.

  • @ranjrog
    @ranjrog Před rokem

    10 for 10. Wow! I’ve made several of these mistakes so I will work on them and do better! Thankfully, never guilty of saying “fish finder”!!

  • @tjchorseshoeing
    @tjchorseshoeing Před rokem

    10 4 10 great points today!! Gives me more to work on.

  • @ztublackstaff
    @ztublackstaff Před rokem

    10/10 thanks for these. Comms are so important, and bad communication is a poor excuse.

  • @anastasiat.9275
    @anastasiat.9275 Před rokem

    10/10❤ super great video….. I always try think how phrases will get interpreted…. And this was a great reminder!!! Thanks😊

  • @wkashmir3
    @wkashmir3 Před rokem

    one zero for one zero. Great message and reminder!

  • @danielcrucci
    @danielcrucci Před rokem

    10 for 10!!! Great topic Jason, Thank You!!

  • @Richard-mo1nc
    @Richard-mo1nc Před rokem

    Great video to help reinforce the importance of understanding communication and phraseology in aviation. When I started learning about aviation phraseology, I thought I had to take English class again. I've never heard the "Tally Ho" phrase but if I heard someone say it on the radio, I would have a nice little laugh for myself first, then be confused because what the heck does it mean? It sounds like a whole diner lingo for aviation.

  • @skyepilotte11
    @skyepilotte11 Před rokem

    Thx Jason...I'm who knows "On the go!"...lol

  • @francisalgoso4241
    @francisalgoso4241 Před rokem

    10 for 10, thanks Jason.

  • @HiddenWindshield
    @HiddenWindshield Před rokem +3

    "This on the radio." You can't tell me what to do! 😇

  • @zackaplowitz
    @zackaplowitz Před rokem

    Great video on an important topic. Interestingly in the UK, where I fly, correct phraseology instead of "climb four thousand" would be "climb to altitude four thousand feet".
    Part of the reason is that in the vicinity of airfields, we sometimes use height (AAL - above aerodrome level) instead of altitude, so it might then be "height four thousand feet". Either way, the "to altitude" removes the confusion between "to" and 2, but only if people use it correctly... and many don't.

  • @frankdaniels8077
    @frankdaniels8077 Před rokem

    10 for 10, great tips Jason!

  • @BraapZ
    @BraapZ Před rokem +1

    👍10-4 ten. 😜 great video Jason. Throw in our expectation biases and these double and even triple meaning phrases can become a disaster affecting life and limb.
    Thank you, and please keep covering this topic more. 👍😎

  • @loupitou06fl
    @loupitou06fl Před rokem

    10/10. My pet peve: clear of the active, i much prefer clear of runaway XX.

  • @stevesuter440
    @stevesuter440 Před rokem

    10/10. Another great topic, thanks!

  • @thurmondcapps66
    @thurmondcapps66 Před rokem

    10 for 10, great heads up

  • @greglong1492
    @greglong1492 Před rokem

    10 for 10. Thanks for these videos.

  • @iammichaelmyers
    @iammichaelmyers Před rokem

    10 - wow! I love how these videos fill in gaps of “why is that like that”? I like to know those nuances and tips on what makes a better pilot. Thank you so much for these!

  • @briandavis9245
    @briandavis9245 Před rokem

    10 for 10. Also guilty of a few of these. Good refresher, and I'll work on them. Thanks!

  • @tonythornton1973
    @tonythornton1973 Před rokem

    10/10!!! Well done- great info!

  • @billyarpe8794
    @billyarpe8794 Před rokem

    10 for 10, enjoying this so much!

  • @sarahhaskett3648
    @sarahhaskett3648 Před rokem

    10 for 10! Wow lots of info in this one. I’m going to grab my notebook and write some of this down. 👍🏼 I never heard the fish finder one before. 😂

  • @timypaul
    @timypaul Před rokem

    One zero out of one zero / great class. I'm loving it

  • @nyboardsports
    @nyboardsports Před rokem

    10/10 - Power Set!

  • @IanRatcliffe-cb2hr
    @IanRatcliffe-cb2hr Před rokem

    10 from 10 here in Australia. Keep up the great videos.

  • @davidcole333
    @davidcole333 Před rokem

    I've never heard "Tallyho I've got 'em on the fish finder" but I have heard "Tallyho" a LOT. In fact I heard it so much when I was a brand new student pilot I used it the first time tower called out traffic to me and I saw it." Fortunately a good instructor removed that from my vocabulary for me.

  • @michaelharding7623
    @michaelharding7623 Před rokem

    9 / 9...thanks Jason.

  • @cbcyouthministry2508
    @cbcyouthministry2508 Před rokem

    10 for 10! Always working on this to get better!

  • @Aviatorpeck1957
    @Aviatorpeck1957 Před rokem

    10 for 10 Thank you

  • @jiteanomi4092
    @jiteanomi4092 Před rokem

    10/10....nice and concise..

  • @richardbonander1507
    @richardbonander1507 Před 7 měsíci

    Love it, Thank you

  • @lhallal1234
    @lhallal1234 Před rokem

    10/10 love the phraseology

  • @kimberlychapin394
    @kimberlychapin394 Před rokem +1

    How about "bring the power back"? My CFI said that just yesterday. I thought he meant add power, he meant reduce power.

  • @kevin4sambos119
    @kevin4sambos119 Před rokem +1

    10/4/10 thanks

  • @kurtreber9813
    @kurtreber9813 Před rokem

    10410R2!
    I'm a student and can't tell you how many times I continue to hear "any traffic please advise" every time I go up. Winchester VA airport.

  • @shiz778
    @shiz778 Před rokem

    10 for 10!

  • @jd88x89
    @jd88x89 Před rokem

    10 for 10!!

  • @skysailor64
    @skysailor64 Před rokem

    Good message! :)

  • @patrickmaroney8262
    @patrickmaroney8262 Před rokem

    Ten for ten! Thanks for this series.

  • @KH-wf7bq
    @KH-wf7bq Před rokem

    10410, clear communication in all areas of life is “KING”

  • @michelviso4705
    @michelviso4705 Před rokem

    10/10 back on trace!

  • @sklajban
    @sklajban Před rokem

    Greetings from Tenerife 😀

  • @pamelaschneider660
    @pamelaschneider660 Před rokem

    10/10
    This is great!!!!

  • @whishtebby
    @whishtebby Před měsícem

    Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but the word is pronounced "phra-se-ol-o-gy" -- not "phrase-ol-o-gy." (from a visiting English editor)

  • @stephenbrown7809
    @stephenbrown7809 Před rokem

    10 for 10 good buddy

  • @tankbootone
    @tankbootone Před rokem

    10 for 10 learned a few things today as Always! Good stuff keep it going 👍

  • @mikeperry2814
    @mikeperry2814 Před rokem

    Question: What do I say to tower when I am inbound for a full stop landing and then want to immediately take off? ...ie as in landing at a towered airport on my 150nm + cross country. Oh, 10/10!

    • @tingzhong8243
      @tingzhong8243 Před rokem +1

      Inbound, landing, stop ‘n go. I use this at a towered Class D in my upstate NY region. As a student, I like to request t@axi back” to practice maneuvering around without paying landing fees that seem to be increasing.

  • @rong4248
    @rong4248 Před rokem

    10 / 10 (not 10 for 10) I use Vatsim and ARSim on my phone -Talking to ATC just makes me nervous. I am sure I'll get over it.

  • @larrybeckley8978
    @larrybeckley8978 Před rokem

    10 for 10 great needed video thanks

  • @nicolasbaranek6334
    @nicolasbaranek6334 Před rokem

    10/10 great advice!

  • @dekky111
    @dekky111 Před rokem

    10-4-10 good buddy!

  • @sonoftherepublic9792
    @sonoftherepublic9792 Před rokem

    10-4-10. Thanks much!

  • @unclebilly4696
    @unclebilly4696 Před rokem

    I agree with most of what you're saying. However, there is nothing wrong with saying Tally-ho or No-joy. This phraseology is used by military pilots, and there is no confusion on the meaning. By the way, military pilots are professionals too.

  • @jbreezy101
    @jbreezy101 Před rokem

    9/10 my favorite phraseology mistake: remain clear of [the] class b [airspace] vs remain outside of [the] class b [airspace]

  • @blakesteed-heathhawksfootb5794

    10 of 10

  • @holly_in_the_blue
    @holly_in_the_blue Před rokem

    10 Fer 10!

  • @PottersClay21
    @PottersClay21 Před rokem

    i have heard "i got em on the fishfinder." not tally ho, though. i did my training at untowered airports, so i heard the occasional short conversation, too.

  • @MrBenkix
    @MrBenkix Před rokem

    10/10. Question on the fish finder- do we not refer to adsb- in? What should we say?

  • @SVSky
    @SVSky Před rokem

    "I've got em on the fish finder" is common to hear from AIRLINERS in my area.

  • @davenorth6794
    @davenorth6794 Před rokem

    10/10 thanks for what you do!

  • @jjkrmain
    @jjkrmain Před rokem

    From the movie "Hot Shots!" "Sphincter Mucous Niner Ringworm, roger".

  • @iscottbrock
    @iscottbrock Před rokem

    Great video! 10/10

  • @peterschuster1893
    @peterschuster1893 Před rokem

    10/10. Great stuff!

  • @mikeholley8307
    @mikeholley8307 Před rokem

    I’m 10/10 now. Great job

  • @tejloro
    @tejloro Před rokem

    10/10... This is good stuff!

  • @pplphil9979
    @pplphil9979 Před rokem

    I had to ask tower to repeat take off clearance recently. I heard” G-YL wind 240/10 knot cleared for take off” I heard “not cleared for take off”.

    • @coreymcdonald7745
      @coreymcdonald7745 Před rokem

      They’re just supposed to announce the winds as “240@10”…

  • @clctrucks
    @clctrucks Před rokem

    10 fer 10 baby!

  • @levijbailey
    @levijbailey Před rokem

    10 for 10.

  • @dougdraper4892
    @dougdraper4892 Před rokem

    Also consider regional dialects and accents. At my home airport you know you're in Texas.

  • @Quokka_Volant
    @Quokka_Volant Před rokem

    Hi guys , quick question here . At first contact with the departure, do we say " ....passing 4.000 feet to 10.000 feet "or " ... passing 4.000 feet climbing 10.000 feet ? Thank you all.

  • @epiren
    @epiren Před rokem

    Ten for ten. All caught up for now.

  • @Tushka154
    @Tushka154 Před rokem

    10 for 10 from Hungary🇭🇺