Experimental Character Showcase - Al-Hadikhia
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2021
- Over the coming months, we'll be showcasing some of the experimental characters, live on stream, with an eye to helping prospective Storytellers see them in action and learn how best to run them.
This week it's the Al-Hadikhia, a demon who forces the good team to decide if they want to live or die!
Trouble Brewing character sheet here: rebrand.ly/TBscript
Storyteller for this game: Ben Burns (community manager for the Pandemonium Institute).
Join us for the streams over at:
/ thepandemoniuminstitute
Find out more at bloodontheclocktower.com/
Intro visuals created by Jon from Luke & Dad Productions / @vfx_jon
Intro music - Private Reflection Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
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Other music by Karl Casey @WhiteBatAudio - Hry
I keep forgetting the Spy can register as a good character. I was wondering which one was the Drunk for 15 minutes.
I finally watched this and it was really interesting to see that what is probably my favorite Demon so far actually runs differently than I thought. I originally expected it would be silently waking up the three chosen people, which would open up a lot of bluffs and confusion for who was picked. The other way I expected it might've worked is waking up all three together, put them all back to sleep, then silently get their choices. Also interesting, but honestly I love the public announcement. It sounds so fun. I can't wait to run it in person.
I noticed (though nobody commented on it in the game from what we saw from Ben's perspective) that the amount of time a player takes to make a choice could also be an interesting data point. I know that ST can easily counter this by taking longer to announce all or some of the choices, but it was interesting to see. I was thinking "Eevee's sacrifice might mean nothing because players might see her hesitation to die instead of being a martyr and just falling on the sword to make amends." and that could've been an interesting thing for evil to run with.
At 37:56 should there actually be an Al-Hadikhia token on the soldier since he chose to die? This would technically give info to the spy that the soldier was choosing death (even if they won't die). I'm thinking for possible poison coordination between minions afterwards
They don't have a poisoner so it doesn't matter
Narratively, how does the Al-Hadikhia work on the first night? With (most) of the other demons, you can assume they used their power to attack the story teller, which sets off the events in the town square, but here, the Al-Hadikhia would need to choose a group of 3. Doesn't that mean that, in-game, there could be a situation where the Story Teller is an alive character, and two of the townsfolk start off dead?
EDIT: Actually, never mind, I think I figured it out. Al-Hadikhia chooses the storyteller 3 times. This guarantees a death and has no spillage.
Another narrative I like is that the ST has been dabbling in the arcane and accidentally summoned the demon into being, dying to it in the process!
@@kjinskipify Or this time it was the clock repairman Ben and his two apprentices that were killed.
Related to the naughty Butler, is the Klutz similar in that regard?? From what I've seen, a Klutz (or someone bluffing as one) has to claim to be it and choose. So would a dead Klutz that stays quiet be considered cheating??
They'd usually be assigned a choice by the ST, I think. As a consequence of rule breaking, that choice would almost certainly be evil if the klutz refuses to choose for themself...
The Surgeon: (Outsider)
Once per game, choose one alive character and one dead character. They dead character is revived, the alive character is killed. If the Demon is killed, the revived character becomes the Demon.
^ Organ Donations are rough.
Gave me Tokyo Ghoul ep.1 vibes
@@Lonemastermind It would be a fun Outsider, but also terrifying to play against because the Demon could be switched out making them a big time problem for Evil. But also for Good because the Surgeon could swap out a good role for someone who might not be good.
Wonder why Pat didn’t Slayer shoot Ekkin during the last day.
I like the observation duty background tunes 😅
Question: @29:40, how can Jamie (as Butler) vote for Nicky, when Edd hadn't voted too?
Haha. Fantastically answered by Ben @32:30. Cheers x
What's this? An Alan game longer than Day 2?
I am very confused by the evil's team play and strategy here.
yeah, awful picks for a spy game
Can anyone explain me the Scarlet Woman Jinx?
if the demon is killed and its passed on to the scarlet woman, the scarlet woman becames the demon.
Then she decides to kill the previous demon (that is already dead). they choose to live: What happens?
He is revived and became the scarlet woman?
They can ping back each other forever, no?
If the original Al-Hadikhia (let's call him Jeff) dies, they pass on to the scarlet woman (Steve). If Steve revives Jeff via the Al-Hadikhias ability, Steve turns back into the scarlet woman.
Also, keep in mind that the scarlet woman loses their ability once there are less than 5 players alive.
Pretty sure ekin misplayed because they didn't understand the soldier interaction and forgot they could include dead players. 2 years on and still not seeing fun advanced plays with this demon though
If Al-Hadikhia ends up in the final night with 3 people including themselves, and choose themselves and the other 2 living players and all players end up dying, does that rule as a tie?
I would think Good wins, because the Good win condition is just that the demon is dead while the Evil win condition is that the demon lives with 1 or less other town members
@@VGV1deo I know Good wins in ties but I was concerned if a wipeout is a tie or something it's own. You're right though, thanks.
The Al-hadikia will choose one or two dead players (his minions ?) to avoid that
can someone explain the soldier interaction
Soldier reads: "You are safe from the Demon", meaning that you will not die from the Al-Hadikhia ever, unless drunk or poisoned. They explain it at 2:22.
The don't die, so they will always live. Its about result not choice.
And: if the other two choose to live, the triple kill is triggered… but the Soldier still doesn’t die, because Soldier. Only the other two die.
Can the Story Teller lie to the librarian even if they're not drunk?
If the spy registers as an outsider due to the spy ability, that's not a lie to the librarian
@@kjinskipify makes sense. Thanks!
@@Lonemastermind Same with Spy and Recluse
If all choose to die, do all three die?
Yes, they all die if they all choose live or if they all choose to die. It’s a very interesting way to do the prisoner’s dilemma
They do so long as they *can*. A Monk/DA/Innkeeper-protected character, Sailor, Fool, Tea Lady's good neighbors, etc. would not die unless their protection is droisoned.
I think it's interesting that the ST publically announces the choices. This means the third one (or maybe even the second) might have a chance to save the other two by choosing death. Of course, ST will announce in a way to avoid that as much as possible, but maybe the players whispered and came up with a plan on who can martyr. So it could be a mix of Prisoner's Dilemma and a mind game that could break trust if someone panics. It'd be like if Prisoner's Dilemma was instead that half of the entire gang were suspects for a crime and they were randomly interrogated three at a time. The cops just took Jimmy and then Billy in and you're called in next. Do you rat them out? Billy is known to generally take one for the team but you're expendable.
@@kyleb8117
I'm pretty sure Alan chooses the order they are announced in, not the ST. So evil also has a chance to play those mind games.
@@Ellie-rx3jt Sorry, I wasn't clear in how I phrased this.
ST will not play ANY mind games. They are to announce Al-Had as generically as possible. "Al-Had[ikhia] has chosen Bob." That's it. No tone that implies Bob might pick one way or another, no ad-lib extra commentary, etc. Just a simple un-biased announcement. They're trying to avoid players meta-gaming what ST thinks of the choices.
Al-Had is the only one playing mind games. They pick the order, so they pick how it becomes presented to town and how they make the choice.
Why did the librarian get bad info?
it's not bad info, Spy can register as Tonwsfolk or Outsider
the spy can register as townsfolk or outsider.
Oh, no. I'm too early for there to be comments
Too bad, so sad
im not
Loved this, but the music was unbearably loud/distracting. Needed to come down in the mix way lower. Great game.