Wayne Gretzky's trade from Edmonton was actually WILD | Undeniable with Joe Buck

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  • čas přidán 16. 11. 2023
  • After winning yet another Stanley Cup titled with the Edmonton Oilers, Wayne's father warned him he would likely be traded from the team. Though he voiced his opinions on not wanting to leave the organization, he knew it was for the best since he was a salary cap. Partly in an effort to get Messier, Anderson and Fuhr bigger paychecks, Gretzky opted to leave and take his talents to Los Angeles.
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  • @nymike06
    @nymike06 Před 6 měsíci +18

    Wow! This is very interesting. A lot different reasoning to hear in 2023 compared to 1988.
    That Oilers dynasty team was perhaps the greatest assembled team in NHL history.

    • @michaelzilkowsky2936
      @michaelzilkowsky2936 Před měsícem +1

      "That Oilers dynasty team was perhaps the greatest assembled team in NHL history."
      Except for the Islanders dynasty.

    • @nymike06
      @nymike06 Před měsícem +1

      @@michaelzilkowsky2936 I would take the Oilers over the Islanders.

    • @michaelzilkowsky2936
      @michaelzilkowsky2936 Před měsícem +2

      @@nymike06 the only way the Oilers beat the Islanders out of their fifth straight Cup was Ziegler's maniacal determination to put the Cup in Gretzky's hands by changing the final format to 2-3-2. All the Oilers had to do was get a split on the Island and they were in the driver's seat.
      It helped, too, in the overall scheme of things, that the Islanders played in the tough Patrick Division while the Oilers skated around in the Smythe against such power house teams as Van and LA and Calgary (I can't rmember if Winnipeg had a team in those days). Lots of Gretzky's records were accumulated against weak teams.
      Having said that, I won't downplay Wayne's impact on garnering US fan interest in the game. Wayne's a good guy, I guess I've always been a bit biased towards the greatest pure goal scorer the league has ever seen or ever will see : Mike Bossy.
      .76 goals per game, which will never be equalled.

    • @nymike06
      @nymike06 Před měsícem +3

      @@michaelzilkowsky2936 The late Bossy was wonderful! What an underrated incredible player. I have always been a NY Rangers fan. Bossy's dominance in the 80s prevented the Rangers from advancing, possibly to the Finals on a few occasions. Nevertheless, I respect greatness. The Islanders had an incredible run with a loaded team. I would give the edge to Edmonton's run. All the lines were HOF players. I never saw a goal scoring team like them. They literally could put up 7-10 goals a night if they tried hard enough. All those Oilers players who came to the Rangers helped them win a Cup.

    • @michaelzilkowsky2936
      @michaelzilkowsky2936 Před měsícem

      @@nymike06 I am not sure of Edmonton's number, but the Islanders had 16 core players with their name engraved into the Cup during their run. That speaks well of the core of the team, but on the other hand might indicate that they didn't do as good a job as they should have bringing in new players to learn from that core.
      Bossy got the shit end of the stick even in death. Through his life everyone talked about Gretzky and Mario (who don't have a .76 goals per game average), and then a week after he died Lafleur died and hogged the headlines.
      I once gave John Davidson a ride in my cab, he was here for an exhibition game, and I asked him what it was like facing Bossy.
      "You knew what he was going to do but you couldn't stop him. By the time you'd get across to cover him, the puck was already in the net" due to his accuracy and quick release.
      His 50th in 50 goal is amazing......he settled down a bouncing puck, or at least settled it down enough to whack it out of mid air (an inch or so off the ice) and through the five hole. 🙂

  • @archangelgabriel5316
    @archangelgabriel5316 Před 6 měsíci +6

    And truly, you need to know Pocklington's businesses were failing badly he needed capital to save them, so while everything else is and was true, this fact is often overlooked.

  • @j_mad
    @j_mad Před 6 měsíci +9

    Gretz wouldnt sign an extension so they kinda had to trade him. Imagine him walking and getting nothing back.

    • @limegreenpatato
      @limegreenpatato Před 6 měsíci

      They wouldn't have got all that bad karma. They've been shit ever since

  • @jonnygrossman7853
    @jonnygrossman7853 Před měsícem +1

    I thought that the Oilers traded Gretzky only because Pocklington needed to make up for the money he lost when his other businesses struggled. I didn't think that Gretzky would be a UFA in 1989 or 1990.

  • @Mik-xq2co
    @Mik-xq2co Před 6 měsíci +3

    Was a great loss for Edmonton, but probably the best thing that ever happened to the NHL! Wayne coming to the Kings opened up much of the US to hockey. Helped to greatly expand the NHL fan base and audience in the US.

  • @luigivincenz3843
    @luigivincenz3843 Před 6 měsíci +5

    I witnessed the 1988 press con as a kid. The entire nation broke down, except for some. I was almost sure my uncles were happy too because the Canucks were getting killed by the Oilers for years. With Wayne out, all they have to deal with is Messier and Lowe. And just like every sports owner out there, to keep a juggernaut team like the Oilers, requires $$$$. Pocklington's business ventures were bleeding. Fast forward 2023, I;m sure Connor McDavid may be in the same situation come contract time.

    • @user-kk9po5so3l
      @user-kk9po5so3l Před 2 dny

      I’m hoping it does bro I’m hoping history repeats here and mcdavid comes here to my LA kings 😭🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @cammacisaac9966
    @cammacisaac9966 Před 6 měsíci +3

    And the Oilers haven't been the same ever since.

  • @MikeSmith-vo2yt
    @MikeSmith-vo2yt Před 6 měsíci

    Too bad the owner at the time couldn’t afford to keep that team together. I got to see them up close and it was pretty special.

  • @matthewgriener3091
    @matthewgriener3091 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Pocklington did himself no favors but …
    WAYNE
    APPROVED
    THE TRADE

    • @jonnygrossman7853
      @jonnygrossman7853 Před měsícem

      I thought that the Oilers traded Gretzky only because Pocklington needed to make up for the money he lost when his other businesses struggled. I didn't think that Gretzky would be a UFA in 1989 or 1990.

  • @smk3390
    @smk3390 Před 5 měsíci

    Yep, we hated his wife, i was a 10/11 when he was traded, we didn't really understand why, had Gretzky stayed, that team likely would of won at more than a few more cups.

  • @BradFalck-mn3pc
    @BradFalck-mn3pc Před 6 měsíci

    Bruce McNull and Void

  • @jsmmacdld3519
    @jsmmacdld3519 Před 6 měsíci

    It was easier for him and Janet to go to LA

  • @chefjake7531
    @chefjake7531 Před 3 měsíci

    Man ik he the goat but thank the lord Detroit didn’t trade for him

  • @cindyrussell1581
    @cindyrussell1581 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I think is was the wedding ring made him a LA king.

    • @nymike06
      @nymike06 Před 6 měsíci

      Maybe so

    • @Reidski97
      @Reidski97 Před 6 měsíci +4

      or the fact peter couldnt pay him his worth as a UFA and you cant let him walk for free

    • @cindyrussell1581
      @cindyrussell1581 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Reidski97 more than likely the ring 💍 made him a LA king.

    • @nymike06
      @nymike06 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Reidski97 Exactly!

    • @jsquared1013
      @jsquared1013 Před 27 dny

      @@cindyrussell1581 he explains exactly why that is false in this very video. Did you watch it?

  • @joeq.public281
    @joeq.public281 Před 6 měsíci

    BS.

  • @laxbrobpt2971
    @laxbrobpt2971 Před 6 měsíci +2

    What a legend