Is the BEST BRICKLAYING TROWEL W.Rose or Marshalltown?
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- Is the BEST BRICKLAYING TROWEL W Rose or Marshalltown?
We discuss the good and bad points of Marshalltown and W. Rose bricklaying trowels to decide which is the best trowel to use for your bricklaying needs.
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At this trade for over 35 years. Was taught by the old timers. Try the 11 or 12" W Rose narrow London, will save a lot of wear and tear on your elbow. Always liked to shop for my trowels. Always used a W Rose, but not all are created equal. You want a blade that will sing to you. Just slightly thinner than the rest.
I worked at the Marshalltown Trowel plant and that was the hottest job I'd ever had. I had a partner and our furnace burnt 2300 degrees.the handle was already formed out.it was our job to roll out and then punch out the trowel we were making ingredients at that point.
If it hit 90 degrees by 1 we took a heat break.if it hit 100 by 1 we took 2 heat breaks.that winter,at below zero Temps, we were taking 2 heat breaks.pay was good.we also got paid by how many pieces we put out also.the company has been around since 1902.and there was an older gentleman I worked with that seen these trowels in Vietnam during the war.
It's amazing to see how these things end up when they just start from a solid bar of steel
Just goes to show how well made and known this company really is
i suffered with tennis elbow for 6/7 years now. used marshall for 18 years, ox last 2 years and just trying the w.rose (flat cork handle) last few months and since using the rose i don't get anywhere near the aches and pains as i did before. so for me the rose is a winner but its each to their own. love the channel by the way :)
You do some stellar work RB! I was initiated as a journeyman in 1976. Unfortunately the real brick and stone trade is dead in California. Thanks, RB!
I worked for the Marshalltown plant in the late 90's.and ya talk about a trade in itself to make these things from just a solid bar of steel
Do ya now work for estwing?
(Whether you are a Bricklayer or a Joiner the same ancient rule applies)
As a boy I was told when buying a trowel, a claw hammer or a hand saw test the weight - feel - control and spirit of every one of them in the shop - take your time as no two are alike.
The tool for you will speak out to you - remember you will spend more time with that Hammer etc than your mother or your wife. However mistreatment may be forgiven by your wife - your hammer will always bite back if no looked after.
Today I have been married to my wife 45 years - but I've had my hammer a lot longer - I may have others in my box but that old Eswing still sits proud
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I have a leather handle Rose 9" narrow. Took me awhile to get used to it. My 1rst trowel was a Marshall 11" narrow didn't like the length but the feel was good. I also thought bigger was better but honestly get whatever feels comfy.
I think you would have had a better review if you had a Rose narrow trowel with same angle handle. I believe they also make one with a padded handle like Marshalltown.
W. Rose is the favorite of my bricklayers union I work for.
Fun fact, W. Rose started out making sabers for US military used in War of 1812, plus ceremonial swords.
My advice to brickies all over the world, is to get a trowel "Made in the USA". my trowel is a "Rose" with a type of see-through epoxy handle, and I bought it in 1976 and is still as solid as a rock, just a bit smaller through wearing over the years. If you buy anything in my country, the plastic handle either snaps in half, or the wooden handle usually becomes loose.
Hi Rodian I do feel that they are both excellent trowels its really what people prefer, it like us carpenters with hammers but if I had a choose it would be Marshalltown all the best Tony 👍
I haven’t used a marshaltown in 9-10 years, when they put the raised lettering on the handle actually! I’ve used the 12 “ Tyzak philly since. Half the price of marshaltown and feels good, it’s light as well 👌🏻
I didn't like it when they started putting the raised lettering on the handle but i did get used to it. They now do a DuraCork handle that doesn't have the raised lettering if you're interested🤙🧱
Tyzak looks like made in china?
I've been using a Tyzack for two years... great bit of kit.
Tyzack feel good.. nice and light plus I love the thin blade. However they don’t last long at all. Shrink in size twice as fast as a marshalltown
Nice video i have been using a Marshalltown since 1983 before that it was whs always the 19-11Marshalltown for me wouldn't consider anything else.👍👍
Good review there mate, I really enjoy your videos.
I had always used masrshalltown philly as it's what I was taught to use, so didn't second guess it for a good while. I've had a few W. Rose trowels now though, after switching to london narrow, and they are just not as robust as the marshalltown trowels in my experince. Both my brother and me ended up with W. Rose trowels snapped off where the blade joins the neck. They also wore down much quicker.
The handle on the trowel they've sent you though is a much higher angle than the W. Rose trowls I've seen, maybe it's the 'wide heel' design?
And just a personal preference, I prefer the wood handle or the old style leather handle for smoother movement - I don't get any drag on my skin from rubber and plastic. And I'm not a fan of the finger guard thingy. Quite different to yourself. We've got our own little ways I suppose
Both trowels are excellent trowels.
I personally prefer Marshalltown 19/11 -11”
But do believe W Rose is a tougher trowel if you cut durowall or brick with your trowel, I don’t typically do that.
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Another great video mate. Maybe you should do WHS review, I’ve used them since I was a child. I did stray onto a marshal town several years back but found it wore down to quick so went back to whs. Can’t beat British made plus it’s good to support these companies.
Yeh get decent WHS any more
Try the leather handle that w. Rose makes you can get one on line I have used them for 30 years they will also fit a Marshall town your natural oils from your hand will make the handle just soft enough to mold to the shape of your hand once you break on in you won't use any thing else. Also use the same rubber bumper you have on your wooden handle
He is the 12-in narrow London Rose leather handle for years I am from the US Indiana I swear by
Got given a leather handle marshalltown when I started me apprenticeship and have preferred them since
The karma sutra teaches a variation in angle makes a difference , however when it comes to the lift on the Rose it doesn't appear to be a pleasurable one in your case . As you pointed out it's changed the balance , therefore the weight distribution and the way you hold the trowel . Any new trowel needs to be broken in . Used no more than a couple of hours a day till you get the feel for it , especially a new style . Think not only the lack of a guard but the different lift makes this trowel a non starter for you . You'll never find out for sure if you continue with a slippery handle . When it slips the natural reaction is to snatch the grip back , you'll end up over tightening your grip to try and prevent it slipping . This will contribute to the elbow problem even if you get used to the lift change .
You should try the w.rose Narrow London pattern as well would be interested to see that one
Great review there thank you ,I have been getting tennis elbow lately, I could have come from using a size 12 marshalltown ,and was thinking of getting a w rose , now not I will see if I can get something else whic helps
I started using an 11in philly from marshal town and would get wrist fatigue so now I use a 11in philly w.rose with the low shank angel and i have no problems
I was a fan of Marshalltown until I got my hands on their duracork handle trowels and hated it. The handle began deforming after a month of use. Since then I have been a big fan of the Husky pro London pattern brick trowels. Forged, perfect taper grind, grip is very comfortable and they are backed by a lifetime warranty. I use the 10 and 11 1/2 inch trowels for both brick and block. I did find the 12” to be too heavy for me. Never really been a fan of laying with shovels anyways
After 30 years of WHS and Marshaltown trowels , I used a 12inch london Pattern Rose, I wont be changing back again !!
Used to use Marshalltown but earlier in the year tried a 9 1/2” W.Rose with the soft grip handle. I will never use anything else now. The only thing I didn’t like is the plastic end wears away very quickly after tapping any brick/block down.
I'd love to see you try use a german style triangular trowel. Just curious as to what you'd make of it. I'm no bricky but enjoy watching your videos.
You need to make a video on the limber metal for both. Wayyyyyyyy different trowels! Make sure they’re both cork handles for both. Best trowels made so far just don’t know which one is best
I work in landscaping/ civils, ie a bit of brickwork the odd patio etc the odd bit of blockwork but not on the trowel every day.
For me I use a old vintadge whs 11" narrow London with a wooden handle.
The old whs have a fairly narrow handle and a steel bump cap and I find the weight balance and durability perfect.
The new whs are nasty and not comparable.
I think the w rose and marshaltown wooden handles are too fat too long and the wrong shape, I hate them!
Any wooden handle tool gets the varnish sanded off and a very light coat of linseed oil, that's all. Regular use and abrasion keeps a nice non slip grip. The varnish will always be slippy get rid of it!
If I had to get another trowel I'd search ebay for another old style whs but failing that a marshaltown narrow london with a durasoft grip.
I used both but my Philadelphia trowel was a W H S I swapped to a marshaltown with a medium lift so comfortable
The leather handles are a bit pricey but well worth it after all a tool that is in your hand all day every day should be top notch and as comfortable as possible I have used both brands with the w rose leather handles I'm from south central PA and w rose and Marshall town are all brickies yse around here rubber plastic and wood are for those who haven't tried a leather handle yet
I use both brands mostly Rose both are good just a bit different. Rose makes well over 300 types of trowels.
There are empirical reasons to argue that Rose is superior, regardless of personal preference. Tapping both blades the Rose sings more, indicating a harder temper, which is also the reason why when examining used trowels, Roses will exhibit less dings and dents. After years of use the Rose blades stay straighter. I have personally seen Marshalltown blades curve up or down on the tip after years of use. Other than that, it’s the feel you prefer. I’ve had both and prefer Rose. But I do have one mystery vintage one with no makers mark that I absolutely love for the work appropriate to its design.
Been laying over 30 years I’m currently using the ox brilliant value for money ✌️
Thats a super wall mate.
What bricks are they? And mortar mix etc.
Cheers
I used both for many years and I preferred the 11.5 Marshalltown philly pattern. Now I use a 11.5 husky London pattern
I was surprised how well made the husky trowel is.
Learnt how to lay bricks with a tyzack nice and light but the blade is spot welded to the handle and it eventually fell off same thing happened years later with a rose trowel..cant beat marshalltown for durability though. i always seem to return to marshalltown.
Thanks for shout outs again and I enjoyed the video. It seems to me that the wooden handles have the high lift. I use a plastic handle W. Rose and it has the low lift. I agree that the high lift trowels hurt my elbow. You gotta stick with the trwel that is comfortable for you right?! Bricks laid wages paid! 👍🏻 🧱
Eric Very generous of you to send the w.rose to rodian . I find When purchasing w.rose trowels you have to be very selective and purchase them in store you can end up with a nightmare of a trowel if you buy them online .they are made from top class materials .The standard shank w.rose trowels are anything but standard and I find that no matter what type of handle they have on them ,they can have that very high handle angle like Rodian,s one . Some times the tang can be laying back greater than 90 degrees and if you couple that with the high handle angle they are very hard to use . Over all Marshalltown are more uniform in there construction with greater attention to detail in there manufacture .I don’t know what the quaility control is like at w.rose but there has to be a reason why there trowels vary so widely . Over all they seem to be roughly manufactured which is a shame because the materials used in there construction are top class . if you hand pick one that suits you then you have a top class trowel in your hand.
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video Eric👍 I am going to give the W. Rose some more time and see if the elbow pain goes. i may try a different style handle. Again, thank you very much for sending the trowel over. Really appreciate it 🤙🧱
@@brickbybric you are exactly right. You have to by W. Rose in the store and test each one. All of them are different. I read on their website that they are individually hand forged. The tang is not welded on it is forged as one piece. You are right they do need a bit more Q.C.
I am looking forward to Rodder's new video this afternoon, you?
Eric Knight . Eric just watched it excellent work. You might find this video interesting czcams.com/video/SX00wregQ-w/video.html it’s from the Bellota trowel manufacturing plant in northern Spain. They are making one piece forged Madrid pattern brick trowels it’ looks like a large gauging trowel .I’d say Marshalltown and w.rose etc would manufacture there one piece forged trowels on similar equipment using a process like this. Google Bellota Cuchara albanil and hit images to see pictures of there Philadelphia pattern trowels. They also manufacture trowels I believe for the u.s.a company c.s osborne who are more famous for there upholstery tools.This company make brick trowels second to none . The trowel you sent rodian is top class apart from the handle angle being to high .
I use Marshalltown all the time when you bite you notice it has the letters f s only sticker you can get one that has sfs on it and the blade is a little thicker I use my Blade the tap block down with the sfs doesn't seem to get that curve in the blade is bad but the sfs is hard to find
Have you tried the Ragni 10 inch crown lowvlift ,great bricklaying trowel,🇨🇮🇨🇮
Rodian your problem with the elbows happened to me when I was 64 ,I had to pack it in. You are a young man it doesn't sound too good to me. It's not the trowel u use ,it's premature age your problem. Good luck u are going to need it. Pommy Pete😯😯😯😯😯😯
I've used a 19/12,it's the biggest marshalltown,
I only buy the big one purely as it last the longest,I also put a rubber snooker pool cue end on the handle
I had a whs trowel as an apprentice and the lift is far too high...
I will continue buying the marshalltown trowels ,
The Australian ox Pro trowels are similar to the marshalltown, but the blade is very flimsy,
7.5" buttering trowels are my favorite.
review the ox trowel, had numerous amounts of trowels, ox are great for the money but looking at a rose for my next trowel, definitly not that one with a steep handle
Whs marshalltown w rose i have used them all, the 10 inch philadelphia marshalltown is a good face work trowel, but lately i have been using a narrow london pattern Bon trowel I bought it on amazon for £16.It is light well balanced with a great lift.I cannot fault it and i have been a bricklayer for 35 years
Is your bon trowel from the new range they have out the keystone one piece forged trowels or is it welded bon trowels are usually welded . That’s another thing you hear constantly thats not true that a trowel is no good if it’s not one piece forged .
bric Bon 72-252 11-Inch Pro Plus Carbon Steel Narrow London Masonry Trowel with Wood Handle, Length I bought it 3 years ago
cairo678 Cairo I have the 10 inch version of it wood handle lovely trowel , bon get them made in Taiwan and they are welded not one piece forged . Usually welded trowels are made from cheap materials and badly welded when you make them from quality materials and weld them correctly there as good as any .
Whs hunt and sons brades stamped is a very good trowel I’ve gone back too them .
hello , im a beginner bricky from sweden , have workt this trade for 2 years now and i would like to get my hands on a marshelltown london pattern trowel but cant buy it any wear so they can ship it to sweden,,, do you have any ideas how i can get my hands on one???
love your videos, have bin watching your vids sins the beginning !!!!!!!!!
cheers !!
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West Rose over Marsheltown. You can cut durawall the blade will never chip on a Rose. Alsol note that West Rose makes many different angles, I believe three or four. Also, I used to change the handles on the trowels as well. Not so easy to change of Marshaltown.
West rose? I think you mean William rose?
Rose trowl for me. 11" London pattern, narrow heal with proform grip handle. Nicest feeling trowel out there.
The arm pain will be off gripping the wooden handle. Would never use a wooden handle. Takes twice as much grip just to hold it.
Sorry lads have a question on a unrelated point.
How do you feel about insulating below dpc level with full fill earthwool dritherm cavity slab?
Anyone concerned about damp coming up through the insulation?
Exactly what I thought ! Great point Think it’s a r8 load of 💩,to do that
suggestion: video changing the angle of the handle to solve the feel? applying heat I think thats how they do it
Now that sounds like a good idea for a video! I like it 🧱🤙
Edit: getting off the handle also! 😂 I know they do replacement handles but how do you get the bloody things off.
I've recently gone from Marshall Philadelphia to Wrose Philadelphia the wrose handle feels more flat and I just need to angle it little bit to make the balance feel right.
Tobyn with wood handle trowels it’s fairly easy to get the handle off . That w.rose you have did you buy it on line.
W rose hard rubber handle is where it's at. Though I do like the soft bumper on the marshalltown.
I've never tried the wide ones maybe I should give it a try.
Whs all the way! left Marshall town 5 years ago never looked back, longer lasting steal, lighter, less strain. That whs too me looks odd. Try whs dura soft lower angle handle fits gr8.
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WHS broad heel London pattern the best trowel.used one for 40 odd years.l’d sling them things .tin foil with handles.
Totally agree, the old WHS are superb I would have mine over any marshaltown or rose.
@@paulf2529 amen I bought two WHS narrow London's in 1973 I'm on the second one but I'm retiring soon and there's a good twenty years left in it 😂 everything else is crap
BLWP Ox for me . That is the first W rose I have seen and I don’t like the look of it at all ! The handle looked fat. As you said to balance it you held it further back which makes well heavier which explains the sore elbow . I agree wooden handles slip and that bung stuck on the end looks ridiculous and can’t be comfortable 😳. Great review pal 🧱🧱🧱👍🏼
The handle is a tad fatter than the Marshalltown. The bumper on the end was useful but it did get in the way and I wasn't a fan of how far back I had to hold it at all. I am going to modify it and see if I can make it more my style 🧱🤙
Rodian Builds .interesting 🤔🧱🧱🧱👍🏽
Steve, that was my thoughts it a horrible chunky handle on the w rose, visually even it looks wrong.
I use a old style whs but any varnish or whatever is long gone and the wooden handle never slips.
I would have to sand off the varnish on the rose before I could use it.
Paul F 👌🏼🧱👍🏽
Rodian Builds roses come in very different angles different handle types there honestly so good
I have only ever had a London Marshall Town one. If fact I only had 2 trowels since I started lol. I fancy trying out some different joints though 👍👍👍
You must have kept your trowels in good nick?! I think I've had 5 trowels over the years....to be fair one did get pinched😭
@@RodianBuilds its bit small now though could do with a big one for block work 👍
Mark joints as is in jointers ? Sled runners are best to use. Kraft half round sled runner get pointing done in half the time give nice crisp beds as to some times it can be a bit wavey using the heal on back of key that tends to get used if cement a wee bit of. 16mm sled runner will never look back buddy. Fantastic for re pointing also get the beds filled a lot quick and better with the longer flat on it as to the standard 3-4 inch on the spoon style keys like the marshaltowns. Less pressure and fatigue on wrist a find also.
If you can get one a whs London long handle last forever
@@lmilne4859 minght have a look at them👍
I have the 10.5" wide london leather handle W. Rose, replaced my marshaltown and can honestly say i will never go back to marshaltown. My rose is diferent to yours as my handle rise is lower then the marshalltown and makes use so much nicer. Far less strain on elbow and forearm with the low rise rose trowel
Ive only usdd W Rose and every one of mine has a lesser angle than every marshalltown I've ever seen. Also, I've never seen a W Rose with a wooden handle that is that shape. ALSO the heels on all my W Rose Philly's are furthur back on the blade than the one in this video. I'm Canadian and my trowels are made in the US. Are there EU made W Rose trowels? I've NEVER seen a W Rose like the one in this vid.
@@thursty15 ive never seen a w. Rose trowel like the one in this video either. mine is wooden wrapped in leather handle made in the u.s i think all rose trowels are u.s made. All i can say is, in my opinion, that w.rose trowels are so much better.
Nice one, I was looking to buy a rose but now i think I'll stick with M Town, great vid
I would suggest trying a few Rose ones in the hand to see if you like them. Everyone's different 🧱🤙
He’s reviewing a trowel that’s a different style to 1 he’s used too from handle to pattern. Pointless really has to be a trowel from Rose that’s same as style he uses with marshaltown.
I have a 9 inch Philadelphia pattern rose with a wooden handle and love everything about it, I also have an 11 inch Philadelphia pattern tyzack and a 12 inch narrow London pattern rose with a proform handle. All of my other trowels are marshalltown (pointing, gauging and tilesetters) if I had to pick one and stay with it I would always pick the 9 inch rose.
W rose 10 inch narrow London best trowel I’ve ever had. All the boys laugh saying how small it is till I start laying quicker than them.. 12 inch just slows ya down and fucks ya body
@@gusemery5475 to be fair I don't do much bricklaying so the 12 rarely comes out, the 9 inch Philadelphia is so good you can work out of tubs and everything. As the old saying goes "it's not how big it is, it's what you do with it that counts" do you go for the pick and dip method?
robessell yeah that’s it I just do the traditional method but I can see how pick and dip would be much quicker due to going to the mud board half the time and picking the brick up the same time ya spreading might have to give it a crack
robessell it’s funny how some Brickie’s brag how they have been doing it most their life and how their method is quicker but if ya used half a brain ya can tell pick and dip would destroy it if done correctly
@@gusemery5475 people are just set in their ways, if the colleges taught the pick and dip method and people started using it more on site I'm sure it would take off. A lot of laying is habit in older brickies so anything different feels awkward or clumsy.
I have a question is it better to have a trowel that is more pointy all more around or does it not matter?
Its more of a personal preference. Most bricklayers I've spoken to about this prefer the rounded end a worn in trowel has. I've never known a brickie keep their trowel with a point even after its worn in. 🤙🧱
Rodian Builds that answers my question thanks Over the times if you had a pointy trial I guess it would wear out into a round Trowel of order use
Any chance of a video on how you keep your vertical perps plumb down the face of your wall.
Cheers mate
Yeah its called "experience" and "bond"
If the wall is level you can use a short t square and a pencil to mark perps but make sure you work from 1 end and lay from that end or you move over a joint get pencil off with sand paper do every 3rd perp
I just bought a rose. I threw it into my bag after 2mins. I hate the lift angle. I’m going to have someone cut into the neck and bend the angle and weld it to same angle as a marshalltown.
Don't get me wrong I used marshalltown 12inch on blockwork and 11inch on facework all the time I bought a rose in the 70s brought over from Canada and it was a good trowel
I bet trowel production has changed a LOT since the 70's. Maybe I'll have a hunt on ebay to see if there are any old ones about 🧱🤙
I was trained not to tap brick, the labor should keep the mortar to the correct consistency and the mason should spread the right amount. Took a lot of practice, but it really helps to keep work clean.
Mate, take hockey tape, stretch out about two feet, then twist it, a-lot, and then spirally wrap it around the wooden handle and then wrap the hockey tape, flat, around the handle, it gives a great grip.
Rose for me !
The Rose Feels Heaviest Because You’re Picking It Up With The Arm You Usually Don’t Lay Brick With 🧱
Use A trowel from the Netherlands please I would love to see it
Which 1?
The lift on thst rose is crazy
you need to scrape off the varnish on the wood. It's there to keep it looking good at the store.
Rose with leather handle. 10" Philadelphia
I’ve recently bought a W rose after years of using Marshall town but the lift on the handle of mine is a lot different to yours I was gold when bought it was a standard lift not low lift
I'm going to give the W. Rose some more time and see if I can modify it to suit my style 🧱🤙
Can you add pictures to comments I will post a pic of the lifts on the handles
Try the faithful professional philly its a nice bit of steel, dura soft handle, more or less same lift as a" m t" excellent at cutting bricks once you have the sharp edge ,good prices as well (ffx tools}
100% on the faithful I’ve had mine 8 months love it bought another one ready for in time
rudo p www.battiferro.it/en/prodotti/building/forged-trowel-en/ I’m not a hundred percent sure but I think the company that I linked to manufactures them.
My W.Rose Trowel is way straighter handle then the one you have there. Also the leather handle is way more comfortable then wood.
Marshall all the way 👍
W rose trowel proform low lift handle for me less strain on the wrist and much better made than Marshall Town in my eyes
All towels have different lifts it's up to you to pick the one that suits you not the one the shop sells you.
I've had loads of towels on the counter picking the one that suits my hand
PS the rose is the best trowel
Try weighing the Marshalltown with the wood handle
I definitely agree that trying out different ones in a shop is the best idea. One brickie may like a completely different style to another. 🧱🤙
The wooden handle mushrooms eventually.i used them for years long before the durasoft, durasoft every time now
Rose will last a good bit longer
What happened to the way rose built their trowels? they're much flatter than they're supposed to be.
Try the Bon trowel pls.
Hi mate, just wondering why you grip the handle so far down? It's called choking it! Same as when people do it with lump hammers, they aren't letting the tool do the work! Just my opinion👍
I find it much more comfortable and can maneuver the trowel more easily when I hold it further down. Each to their own though 😁👍🏼
Bought a W rose last year. Paid £60 for it and I can honestly say that it’s no better than a marshalltown that you’d pay roughly £40-45 for. My theory is that people buy the rose and convince themselves that it’s better because of the cost. I will be switching back to marshalltown after the rose is done
I think i will have to try a few different W. Rose trowels to see. The one I tried was SO different to my Marshalltown! 🧱🤙
WHS for me every time.
@John Mcgee I'm too common for use a posh trowel John,but I hate the Yank trowels.
WHS means Work Hard or Starve. Pommy Pete,😆😆😆😆😆
Bought a Marshall town 25years ago neoprene handle worn down to about 7" lost it last week gutted,bought an ox feels to light bought another Marshall town,feels like it was meant to be feels good, ox trowel redundant if anyone wants it let me know😁
Yeah mate I've been Marshalltown for nearly 20 years but like the lite wait feel of the ox
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@@stevenparker525 yes you can have it let me know where to send it🤔
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im rose leather handle 12"
W.rose standard shank trowels come with every handle angle under the sun there’s nothing at all standard about them . You elbow is giving you pain because of the high handle angle on that w.rose . W.rose trowels are made from better raw materials than Marshalltown trowels . Marshalltown trowels are made with more attention to detail that the w.rose trowels . Tyzack trowels are very uniform in the handle angle Ox also .( which is the way trowels should be manufactured) Ox softgrip handle is to fat . when you turn your trowel over on a flat surface the handle should lie flat ( taking into account that the trowel handle is curved along its length)when the tip of you trowel is in contact with the surface . Your choking your trowel rodian generally speaking your finger should not be anywhere near that finger guard .czcams.com/video/ojxJ8AXV8Vs/video.html have a look at this Dutch bricklayer see how loosely he holds the trowel his finger is barley on the metal ferrule and his finger never touches the tang of the trowel.
WHS hunt & brades ,if you can get hold of one
I've got an old WHS somewhere in my garage, just cant find it. 🧱🤙
Yes, totally agree, I use an old whs narrow london with the steel bump cap and wooden handle.
I love mine, the new style ones with the plastic bump cap are a poor product but the old ones are superb.
I like
Philli vs London, what is difference,
The 11" Marshall town is the only pro choice i find nothing else is up to the job.
Try the 11 1/2 inch Husky trowel London pattern.. great trowel for the money
Wider but Marshalltown is used GMAFB. Lighter but it's used. Cluelessness
Pain? You're old.
If your a bricky you should be competent to use any trowel, in my 60 odd years in the game. The angle as you call it between the handle and the blade is the LIFT. Regard grinding the blade straight it will go that way as you use it in any case.Could say more but fuck it . Pommy Pete 😥😥😥
ragni 11" philly £12.99 a trowels a trowel
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The elbow pain is the different angle, Hands down, the angle. Stick with the angle you currently have
WHS for me feels more solid than a Marshall town
Looks to solid. I haven't had one in decades.
My Rose trowels don't have that steep angle handle. I don't know why that one is like that.? I wouldn't like the angle of that handle either.. All my Rose trowels were bought in the 1980s and 90s. I have not bought one in at least 20 years. More recently I have used the Marshalltown bought from Home Depot and it is complete crap.
Your talking bout the ones made by Kraft and yes those Rose trowels aren’t that good. But the Husky pro brick trowels sold at Home Depot are great trowels.
@@burna803 I haven't seen those.?
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Putting electrical tape on the handle dude will make it even heavier has they say as they say differ blokes different strokes
I wouldn't have thought a bit of tape would make it much heavier? I'll give it a go and if its crap I'll just whip the tape off 🤙🧱
Rodian Builds , even a bit of tape will make the handle even fatter which won’t help the elbow 😬🧱👍🏼
Because I have a small hand I want down the diameter of the handle for better grip and feel.
Rose all the way.
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Thumb is not supposed to be past handle. That's why trowel has a handle.
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