No. You misunderstand the law. (As do the police all to often). There is no offence of simply 'causing someone alarm, distress or harassment'. There are other elements required. Depending on the offence, threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disordely behaviour are required. Disagreeing with someones point of view, or not liking what they are doing do not automatically create an offence because you are 'alarmed or distressed'.
I’m pretty sure that if they were to explain that they felt uncomfortable with someone filming for a reason unknown to them that they wouldn’t be seen as the ones in the wrong 🤷🏼♀️ how were they to know he wasn’t just some weird creep filming for his own jollies? 😂
@@sarahrichards5737 Legally speaking 'a wierd creep filming for his own jollies' is still not an offence. If the images he films are not indecent he can do with them whatver he wants. I know what you are trying to get at, and I am speaking on a legal level only. Being 'uncomfortable' with someones actions does not make the actions an offence. Turn it round the other way. For instance if you accused me of being a wierd creep, it might make me feel uncomfortable. It doesn't mean you have commited an offence by making me feel uncomfortable.
@@Stuart_George i completely understand that but I’m just explain why they didn’t want to talk nicely when he had already got their backs up about what was happening because initially they didn’t have a clue what his intentions were. If he went and spoke into them first then I really doubt they would have reacted like that! Just saying her reaction wasn’t unjust like everyone seems to think.
If I was estate agent I'd have just laughed and said thanks for the heads up, then wished the camera man a good day. Britain is now full of insecure petty authoritarians.
Terrorism suspicion or stalking. I wonder what hed do if someone sat on the road outside his house and filmed inside. His family etc. Surely he wouldn't mind. 🤷♂️
@@garethboxall no they don't. That's the whole point. Half the time it's several police come out the station. What were they all doing if they were buisy. Its bad management. On there phones on Facebook n CZcams lol that's what our police force are doing
The fact of the matter the estate agent just didn't give a crap about customers data. Not only that, he even confessed that someone has told him this before and still didn't do anything (like switch the screen around). It's people like AB that hihlighted this issue to them and they all didn't care. Their customers need to be notified so they lose buisness and once that happens they'll be very reluctant to do that again. Great Job AB, your service you provide is very much appreciated.
People in a city centre are being recorded by CCTV constantly & their movements tracked by their smartphones, yet they get instantly offended by a person with a camera phone pointing in their direction. The public need to realise the hypocritical double standards that we happily accept in today’s society. Good work AB.
@JB-np4lp - Yes!! 🤔Interesting! I would have thought that the British would be used to cameras all around and pointed at them, by now, and that they would have more confidence in themselves! I’ve watched how the people in the USA often go hysterical and crazy, but you don’t have DisneyLand in the UK!
I emailed their head office a complaint and linked the video stating they breached data protection, had terrible attitude towards the public and filed a false police report. They said its currently under investigation. You should do a re visit.
The term “press charges” does not exist in the UK . No member of the public, or company, victim or otherwise, has any say in if someone is charged with an offence in the UK. I appreciate it’s different in other parts of the world
@@andrewstones2921 It can be done. If you go through private court win a case depending on the outcome the resulting judgement could be turned into a reason for arrest and charged..
@@andrewstones2921 RSPCA regularly prosecute privately. I believe they may be one of the most prolific private prosecutors in the country. Close to 1500 cases last year, with a >90% conviction rate, if their website is accurate.
@@andrewstones2921 is correct though, these other comments have it the wrong way around. In the UK it’s possible to bring a private prosecution, but that’s not the same thing as pressing charges. The point is that you cannot tell the police to NOT charge someone with a crime. As the complainant, it’s not up to you. If the CPS have enough evidence to achieve a conviction, they can press ahead regardless of what the victim wants to do. Unlike in other countries where i can decide not to press charges against a guy who punches me in the face. In the UK, that’s not your decision. Private prosecution is not comparable to the idea of pressing charges. That would occur in cases where the CPS did not believe there was likelihood of conviction but someone decides to do it privately - like crimebodge as stated here. He did that because CPS wouldn’t prosecute.
Nonsense.. He was deliberately filming so he would hope to get the police involved.. And then hope he would get a reaction from the police.. But they were quite decent to him ( bet he was gutted with that) look people some police are well out of order.. But he's deliberately trying to get a reaction.. Nuff said
@@matthall9841 the fact of the matter is the police do not have a reason in hell to even speak to him, either recording in public is a crime or it isn't, the boy in uniform claiming it can be a nuisance? you can't make your own laws up as you go along .
This has to be the world's longest call to the police ever known to mankind. The security officer looked like he was just talking to a buddy for a half an hour.
Not logic, facts. I doubt the police officers in his video are able to comprehend the basics of logic, as in "round peg in round hole". I bet they'd put the square peg in the triangle hole..
@@AuditingBritain still I think you can do even better by giving more pointed replies to those tyrant cops just like Amagansett press, Long island audit or Bay area transperancy. I don't know how cops behave if anyone stands up for there constitutional right over in UK but in usa if an auditor knows his rights and knowledge about what he is doing than no cop can do anything to him. I like your way of auditing but in most of the videos of yours, i see whenever some cops show up, You start being a little defensive and let them talk over you too much even if they are wrong. I like your audits, just hope you stand up for yourself a bit more in the future in front of cops 😄
@@khurrambaig1867 amagansett guy is awful. Most irritating guy on the internet. Him and his inbred family. That time he cried and handed his id 🪪 over straight away after he got arrested like a bitch. Massive fail from an auditor. Biggest fail I’ve see. And serves him right the way he speaks to people. He only carries his gun to prevent getting punched in his face
Hahahaha, that woman "who are you?" She literally will talk down to anyone instead of taking the criticism, turn the screens, accept the free help and avoid a massive fine for breaching someone data.
@lawrence windrush same where I live with openly carrying a side arm. Tourists from other states freak out when they see it..call the cops...cops laugh at them.
@@joem1102 Should have the right to bear arms in the UK, even our Olympic teams for shooting have to train in another country. And yet even more of our Police are armed with side arms and machine guns, they look as if they are about to invade Poland.
Everyone needs to take lessons from this gentleman right here. He knows how to talk and carry himself around police. He's cool, calm, collected, well spoken, educated on the law and most importantly polite and civil.
I don't think he knows how to talk at all. He got involved in long, convoluted discussion with the police officers instead of simply informing the officers he was going about his lawful business when two irate people accosted him. He pointed out to the irate persons that they were in breach of the Data Protection Act whereupon they left and the police were called. That's all he needed to say and all that he should have said, repeatedly if necessary. He should have stayed on the ball instead of attempting long, meandering explanations to the officers and before the officers left he should have asked them if they would speak to the irate persons for breaching the Data Protection Act.
@@frankclough380 Maybe he could've been a little more direct but he wasn't doing anything illegal and shouldn't have to explain himself. He was unlawfully detained so he exercised his right to remain silent which He can exercise any time. He told the officers the place of buisiness was in breach of the data protection act and they didn't seem to care. Like most cops they were prideful and egotistical. You cant tell them anything. They do what they want. Thank God he was recording or false accusations would be taken seriously and lead to arrest. People said he was rude, confrontational and aggressive. Which wasn't true at all. It's perfectly legal to film in public and that's that, end of story.
@carolyn boyce There's only a few simple principles to actually remember. Remain within the boundaries of the law and make sure you film absolutely everything so that false accusations can't be made. Youre legally within in your rights to film in public. That's all you really need to know. Just say I'm an auditor , you don't answer questions, and I now invoke my right to remain silent. If they illegally detain and try to question you ask for a supervisor. If that fails ask to contact your attorney. Just make sure to Get their names and badge numbers so you can hold them accountable later. Simple.
That woman came out of the shop demanding answers and then when you started answering she didn't want to hear it?! You said can I finish and she said no. So why did she bother asking? 😂🤔 There's no cure for stupid and it's scaryyyyy
@@truthbaxter9689 If you were a customer of that estate agent, would you be happy with your personal information potentially showing through shop front windows on a high street? In these days of technological marvel with even phones now getting optical zooms, all can be recorded clearly. An estate agent's computer systems hold bank statements for proof of deposits for house purchases, people's employment details, and finance for tenancy applications, addresses for all customers, their mobiles, credit card details for fees... I operate a mortgage broker firm, they are in serious breach of data protection laws and they must be as thick as shit to not even realise. Opaque film on the windows, or a move around in the office to ensure screens not seen from the shop front.
The funny thing is, if he was a private business that made a profit from exposing businesses for breaching data protection, the police would have sided with him, they are only there to protect for profit businesses activities and not for the publics interests.
I suspect one day, these shits will be like fully fledged Stasi. Once the Government decide to consider drawing up a new version of Human Rights Legislation that favors the State, rather than the individual.
These so called officers need lined up alongside the politicians! It's high time we sorted this out once and for all! Much love from here in bonnie Scotland 💙
The sole purpose of the videos is to get into a confrontation with anyone preferably a police officer. He knows what he's doing will attract attention. Then when he get searched he wonders why
And it proved his point perfectly, if he hadn't filmed it there's no evidence, they get away with it, and I guarantee they act the exact same way anyway calling the police on him. And then the police would have been asking him 'yeah but why you looking in their windows, can you understand why they feel harassed?' Assholes, every one of them.
They know all of our data are breached. Government owns you . That's why they don't care. . Since data protection, everybody just signs their data actively away to others.
"GO BACK TO YOUR SHOP!" had me in tears, AGAIN. Your interactions are pure brilliance, and show the absurdity within modern Britain up with a LASER beams focus
Rude people never like to be challenged about their own rudeness but are usually very quick to point out someone else’s perceived rudeness. It’s a trait of the narcissistic authoritarian
Plus he's right about the screens. I'm a sysadmin. They're not meant to have the screens like that. My local estate agent has it in a way that you can't see the screens. I recall working nr Fleet Street, looking at other offices from height...being able to read people's screens (with my binoculars!!)
He's prob an entitled illegal telling Brits about obeying the law. While they've probably broken so many laws coming over. He needs to be investigated for fraud too.
under what grounds? are you serious? a member of the public (sia badge security guard) contacted the police and said he was suspicious and aggressive and was filming and who knows what else he said off camera. this is enough grounds for suspicion. seriously this audit needs an audit
@@ibrahim-sj2cr yeah, because taking one side of the story without even approaching the other individual and taking their word for it is really good impartial policing 👍🏻 plus, he wasn't even being aggressive. His film showed that, so he was full of it. Nice try on justifying the response though.
AB you are the best at what you do. If it was me I would have told that rude cop, that I would report him to the Information Commissioner (IC) for collusion with the Estate Agent in breaching data protection laws and potentially displaying private information that you had evidence of and could lawfully share with the IC. You are a hero AB!
I know Oxfordshire very well and I can tell you that Abingdon is a stinking shithole. Like every single place in Oxfordshire. The highest levels of inbreeding in Europe and and overaboundance of mutants. Must be the water. Or all the goats they fuck....
That was classic AB. Its amazing that people don't know about data protection and filming lawfully in a public area.It really gave me a good chortle. Nice one.
Literally thousands and thousands of videos online. Countless cases in the news. And yet people are still ignorant to their rights regarding public filming.
@ Luke Vaughan People are more interested in sharing bulls**t on Facebook and the like instead of issues that really matter. I'm not on it but my other half is and the amount of absolute shyte that people want her to SHARE & LIKE no wonder this type of ignorance still exsists.
PC Shortie turns his camera OFF when AB dresses them down,so his bosses dont see his response to it As for the other PC, he needs to go back for more training ASAP He seems to have forgotten the laws already !
I would agree about the retraining John, however, after seeing what the police seem to be getting away with during ‘this current climate’ (😂) I can’t help feel they are being trained to be exactly like in this video! Pick on the citizens, stamp on rights and stick up for other peoples ‘feelings’.
Problem is coppers ego's gets in the way of the 1 brain cells worth of the law they know. No one has to talk to them if they so wish. For a citizen to question their poor actions, knowledge, etc (bare in mind a copper can lie legally) they either get defensive or want to go hands on and trump up charges to make a person's life harder just because they can, which is just another way of trying to show they have power over people, pathetic egotistical thugs in most case's.
He's being rude and aggressive. The immediate question should have been "how is he being aggressive and what is he doing?". What type of offense is rudeness? This is what happens when you have hate speach laws.
The cop was drinking instant coffee. He had no grounds. He said he had grounds to make an arrest, but he cannot tell AB what the grounds are because then AB would know they don’t exist.
I think it is embarrassing and even worrying that there are so many people who make assumptions about what constitutes a breach of their right to privacy simply because they don't like the idea of somebody filming them without their permission. With so much surveillance in place and not to mention the proliferation of camera phones, there is no excuse for not having the facts regarding all the ins and outs of filming. This includes those that the dillusional ones run to with their complaints.
A legit favorite would be going in the shop and explaining nicely that the screens are on show! What he did was not a favor at all! He stood filming them and making them feel uncomfortable for a couple minutes before they had to come out and ask what he was doing so of course they are going to have there back up from the get go! Don’t intimidate people and expect a nice response 👍🏼
"I'm detaining you, I actually don't have reasonable grounds to do so and can't answer a straight question when asked, but if you want to incriminate yourself that would make my job a lot easier"
I dont have a huge issue with how the police acted. They can only go on the information given to them (wether its true or not) and that information was that he was being aggressive and intimidating and that is enough grounds to suspect a public order offence may have been committed.
Was waiting outside an estate agents the other day and I thought the same thing about data protection, whilst looking straight into the office at a computer screen with emails, names, numbers and addresses on it. I knew I wasn't the only one.
The fear-driven, mindless aggression of the estate agent sums up my reasons for not wanting to be in the UK. Can't wait to escape back into the complexities of the world and out of the infantile insignificance of those people and their sorrowful grasp on what's important.
AB is right.. this is not the US where police can do investigative detainment... There are specific powers to detain, Sec.1 PACE, Sec.60, MDA 23.. However, If the officer suspect AB of Sec.5 public order offence his only option is to arrest AB if he insist on leaving.. and de-arrest him if it turned out the information is not true. However, before the officer can arrest AB the officer must have made up his own mind based on objective facts the offence has been committed.. the officer cannot make that determination because his colleague was still speaking to the complainant. In short, that was an illegal detainment.
Dead right. There are very few powers to detain as such. Stop and search powers are the most obvious. Breach of Peace arrest powers and I believe there is a power under the Mental Health Act to detain. Outside of those there is no power to detain in order to find reasonable suspicion of an offence. Essentially, outsideof the powers mentioned above, an arrest is the constables power of detention. (If memory serves me right, I think there are powers to detain people in premises when executing a search warrant).
There have been actual cases in the UK where fraudsters pose as estate agents and email house buyers with bank details to send deposit to, so estate agents leaking email addresses etc is actually a serious risk.
Section 5 states “using threatening words or behaviour” likely to cause alarm harassment or distress. The police always omit the first bit to use it to their benefit
Finally, someone treats estate agents the way they should be treated. Useless intermediaries that are always out for their own selfish interest, screwing buyers and sellers alike!
in this case it constitutes harassment and serves no other purpose than to irritate and annoy people. in this case it'll an illegal use of a camera in public
@@jeffbanks9955 Incorrect. Also, she was only angry because she knew he was right, they ARE breaching data security. They need either glass covering or privacy screens on ALL monitors. Learn the facts before you comment.
@@vaiman7777 1) if you intend to use the photograph for publication, commercial use or stock photography then you need a signed model release. youtube counts as publication. 2) you cannot photograph someone (using a long lens for example) from a public space of them in a private place, such as their home, without their consent. This is an invasion of privacy even though the photo is taken from a public place. This was a privately owned commercial property and is therfore in breach of privacy laws and illegal. do your own homework buddy boy. Why do you think paparazzi arent allowed to stand outside peoples homes and photograph them inside their own private residence? think next time before you comment
@@jeffbanks9955 Seems Chief Inspector Edward Hancox also disagrees with you chump. You obviously need more training officer, ask for it so we don't have to put up with nonsense like you post. Educate yourself correctly next time before you contact me ok chump.
There was a time when security guards just protected private sites, shops, offices and buildings from within. To now see them stationed in the streets and even patrolling our towns is deeply disturbing.
Yeah and it is also bad practice (I assume there is nothing preventing actually requiring this) to:- (a) only notify someone that they are being detained upon them asking if they are; until this point AB wasn't being detained, he could have left on his own accord, and had he not asked, the officer wouldn't have specifically told him he was detained for x offence. I am sure AB isn't a mind reader! (b) detain (or arrest) someone for an offence based upon a phone call allegation without witnessing it or having any evidence to determine one had taken place. I think it is just poor logic to deem someone guilty of the allegation because the detailed description given matches! This is a common issue. (c) on explaining that he was acting lawfully (filming in a public place which he was seen doing - hence this video including the police interaction) to then accuse him of harassing them. I don't think AB was rude and that isn't an offence anyway. We will see much more of officers using POA to incriminate lawful photographers for when the terrorism act isn't sufficient.
I think it's good practice for them to know and state the actual offence, however I don't think he HAS to state the actual offence Marti. There is case law on a virtually identical event. The officer had just stated 'Public Order' when making an arrest. The Judge ruled that it was acceptable. However the Judge did concede that his 'mind waivered' on this point, so maybe in slightly different circumstances, on a different day, it might be determined that the actual offence from the Act does need to be quoted. But at the moment, I feel the case law would point to the fact that it would not change the legality of the arrest. Case was Walker v Metropolitan Police if you're interested. Funnily enough, if he had bothered to know and learn the public order offences he might have realised he missed some rather important elements of the offence.
@@Stuart_George A ‘stop’ occurs when a police officer or a Police Community Support Officer (PCSO) stops you and asks questions. This is known as a ‘stop and account’, and is not a stop and search. You are free to leave at any time. To work out if you are being stopped and searched or if it is a stop and account, you can ask the officer: ‘Am I being detained?’ A police officer can only detain you when carrying out a stop and search, so if the answer is ‘no, you are not being detained,’ it is a stop and account and you are free to leave. You do not have to give your name and address. They must have reasonable grounds and those grounds must be based on clearly articulable facts. They can't just make it up and stop someone. They then have to explain the stop and give certain information about why they are conducting the stop as well as the relevant section of law that they are relying on to make the stop. This very rarely happens and is as a result of sloppy police training and supervision but it's useful to be an informed member of the public in this regard as if the stop is not conducted correctly you can simply walk away.
@@grouchomarx5649 Yep, well aware of the difference between stop and account vs stop and search vs arrest. My point was about the fact that officers don't need to state the section and title of the offence when making an arrest. Marti suggested it is required. I disagree, and suggest the case law tends to say otherwise. My comment is not really aimed at what occured here, as he was never arrested, just a more general point. BTW, I also disagree slightly that you can 'just walk away' if it isn't conducted correctly. I can't really see that working in practice. The police aren't just going to let you wander off if they failed to stick to a provision in the Code of Practice (such as the GOWISELY requirements). It may help you in any subsequent civil or criminal proceedings, that they did fail to adhere to the provisions, but I very much doubt that they will just let you leave.
The only offense committed was the one of not protecting client data by the Estate Agents. However AB is the one being spoken to by the police. They didn't seem to understand that! Beach of data protection is a serious offense and all commercial businesses have a duty of care regarding the custody of client information held on business computers. There is specific legislation and legally required training regarding this matter. Please boycott these people. I couldn't see where the mention of a public order offense was relevant. Another good one AB. YO!
Why are they talking to him, they should go back in and tell the people to turn the screens round. If your info was in that office then you should complain. Christ on a bike there is too much scamming going on without offices letting everyone see peoples information.
They are enforcing their personal feelings rather than the law, if they was enforcing the law they would have left the law abiding citizen alone and dealt with the shop that was breaking the law.
@Matthew721 79 my old landlord took over the rental after 6 months. My teenage daughter battling cancer had carbon monoxide poisoning down 2 3 dodgy gas safety certificates carried out by a Unqualified Engineer. We called environmental health out and they put a order on so to stop us paying rent - the old landlord went to the old Estate Agents and got our information without us knowing - she started contacting my work, my husbands work, then she started splashing around our in-depth credit report - Estate Agents have to destroy your credit file within 30 days. It was shocking the amount of information including my twitter, Facebook and Instagram account with pictures of my family shocking stuff really with this Estate Agents
The true master at work ... smooth as always .... often wonder why you guys don't carry copies of the acts and the much talked about email , to get them to read them back to you
The woman at the estate agents was quite aggressive to be honest. She was the one that made a mountain out of a molehill. As for the policing, there appears to be no consistency. One tells you one thing, another tells you something else. It really is like the blind leading the blind with them. They seem make things up as they go along. To be honest, the entire system is in desperate need of radical change.
@@Alex-bq3tj Even officers themselves moan about some of the training. Seriously, do a little digging around on NCALT training, and you'll find it is acknowledged by many (not all) as being a bit of a waste of time. It seems to involve sitting in front of a screen watching a video and clicking on the correct answers during the 'training'. Those that do moan about it, mainly just say they learn little from it, and they would much prefer a more traditional learning method. (i.e. a real person teaching, with the ability to ask questions, discuss things amongst the class, throw ideas about etc etc). I guess NCALT training may work for some, I'm just not sure it is best suited to teach the skills required by modern policing.
@@GodAtum how can they expect privacy in a town centre with massive windows on an open plan office. The data on those screens is private yet facing the public. I'd hate to think that some of the sensitive information I've previously given estate agents is on display through a shop window. If you don't understand that this is the problem here, then you are part of the problem.
Everyone email the agents. Ask them to delete the email as you don't want your details displayed in the shop window. This the message i sent. Abingdon@allenandharris.co.uk Hi. I saw a property for sale in your shop window on a youtube video for £625k, can you send me details. Also please can you delete this email as I dont want my private details displayed to the public in the shop window. Thanks.
Just think how many people have been wrongly charged, accused of something, moved on, arrested, bullied etc before we had recording devices and the ability to post the results online. Millions!
Good audit that one, really enjoyed it. Totally agree with the GDPR angle, I work in I.T and we constantly have to obsess over not storing customer details insecurely.. It annoys me to see people with whole monitors in plain view of public (very blatantly) They should be fined IMO, as it's the only way companies will learn to follow and respect the rules..
"There's a better way of doing it" Yes there is, report them to the local council for GDPR breaches and let a council officer go round and catch it themselves and hand them a big fat fine, I guarentee they won't call the police on them.
Whether there's a better way is of no concern to the police. They are not here to act as lifestyle advisors or gurus. They are here to uphold the law. That's it!
I'm not a legal expert, but if they come up to you and start being argumentative, aren't they the ones causing alarm and distress ?
I didn't say it was against the law, but the police did say AB was causing them alarm and distress when they approached him !!!
No. You misunderstand the law. (As do the police all to often).
There is no offence of simply 'causing someone alarm, distress or harassment'.
There are other elements required.
Depending on the offence, threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disordely behaviour are required.
Disagreeing with someones point of view, or not liking what they are doing do not automatically create an offence because you are 'alarmed or distressed'.
I’m pretty sure that if they were to explain that they felt uncomfortable with someone filming for a reason unknown to them that they wouldn’t be seen as the ones in the wrong 🤷🏼♀️ how were they to know he wasn’t just some weird creep filming for his own jollies? 😂
@@sarahrichards5737 Legally speaking 'a wierd creep filming for his own jollies' is still not an offence. If the images he films are not indecent he can do with them whatver he wants.
I know what you are trying to get at, and I am speaking on a legal level only.
Being 'uncomfortable' with someones actions does not make the actions an offence.
Turn it round the other way. For instance if you accused me of being a wierd creep, it might make me feel uncomfortable. It doesn't mean you have commited an offence by making me feel uncomfortable.
@@Stuart_George i completely understand that but I’m just explain why they didn’t want to talk nicely when he had already got their backs up about what was happening because initially they didn’t have a clue what his intentions were. If he went and spoke into them first then I really doubt they would have reacted like that! Just saying her reaction wasn’t unjust like everyone seems to think.
If I was estate agent I'd have just laughed and said thanks for the heads up, then wished the camera man a good day. Britain is now full of insecure petty authoritarians.
Exactly.
Just a thank you, we'll rectify that right away would do but you get aggression and abuse then lies and manipulation. Disgusting.
@@lindamartinez9438 They certainly are. I wouldn't want that sour-faced bag doing my mortgage application, or her lapdog with the naff hand tats.
And people.
@@famed6100 "people"
I think he was in the right, this guy is just a knob who causes drama for no reason.
If you get burgled, it take days for the police to come out, yet a man with a camera, oh my god, police are instantly on the scene.
They won't even come out if it has rained.
Terrorism suspicion or stalking. I wonder what hed do if someone sat on the road outside his house and filmed inside. His family etc. Surely he wouldn't mind. 🤷♂️
always the same,some petty buissness phones and they are straight there.got to protect the money
@@lindamartinez9438 and when they do show up they arrest your wife for breech of the peace and tell you theres nothing they can do.
@@garethboxall no they don't. That's the whole point. Half the time it's several police come out the station. What were they all doing if they were buisy. Its bad management. On there phones on Facebook n CZcams lol that's what our police force are doing
The fact of the matter the estate agent just didn't give a crap about customers data. Not only that, he even confessed that someone has told him this before and still didn't do anything (like switch the screen around). It's people like AB that hihlighted this issue to them and they all didn't care. Their customers need to be notified so they lose buisness and once that happens they'll be very reluctant to do that again.
Great Job AB, your service you provide is very much appreciated.
Would you want someone tapping on your window at home and pointing out some irregularity with the law randomly...not me mate, mind his business
People in a city centre are being recorded by CCTV constantly & their movements tracked by their smartphones, yet they get instantly offended by a person with a camera phone pointing in their direction. The public need to realise the hypocritical double standards that we happily accept in today’s society. Good work AB.
yep, there are 12 cameras on a bus.
@JB-np4lp - Yes!! 🤔Interesting! I would have thought that the British would be used to cameras all around and pointed at them, by now, and that they would have more confidence in themselves! I’ve watched how the people in the USA often go hysterical and crazy, but you don’t have DisneyLand in the UK!
I emailed their head office a complaint and linked the video stating they breached data protection, had terrible attitude towards the public and filed a false police report. They said its currently under investigation. You should do a re visit.
Pathetic Ian.
@@edoggsbiggestfan5878 ok "e dogg" 😂
@@edoggsbiggestfan5878 why though officer,why is it pathetic mr police officer?
@@traceygauntlett2679 I'm not a fed trace?
@Pull out The Lapel why? It's called playing them at their own game.
No company would press charges, they wouldn't want the publicity of breaking the law themselves!
The term “press charges” does not exist in the UK . No member of the public, or company, victim or otherwise, has any say in if someone is charged with an offence in the UK. I appreciate it’s different in other parts of the world
@@andrewstones2921 It can be done. If you go through private court win a case depending on the outcome the resulting judgement could be turned into a reason for arrest and charged..
@@andrewstones2921 I thought a person could file/bring private a private prosecution like "Crimebodge" does against the police.
@@andrewstones2921 RSPCA regularly prosecute privately.
I believe they may be one of the most prolific private prosecutors in the country.
Close to 1500 cases last year, with a >90% conviction rate, if their website is accurate.
@@andrewstones2921 is correct though, these other comments have it the wrong way around. In the UK it’s possible to bring a private prosecution, but that’s not the same thing as pressing charges. The point is that you cannot tell the police to NOT charge someone with a crime. As the complainant, it’s not up to you. If the CPS have enough evidence to achieve a conviction, they can press ahead regardless of what the victim wants to do. Unlike in other countries where i can decide not to press charges against a guy who punches me in the face. In the UK, that’s not your decision. Private prosecution is not comparable to the idea of pressing charges. That would occur in cases where the CPS did not believe there was likelihood of conviction but someone decides to do it privately - like crimebodge as stated here. He did that because CPS wouldn’t prosecute.
Left a 1 star review on Allen and Harriss website.
Especially the way they treated you.
Well done AB.
I love how they made you out to be in the wrong. They completely ignored the offender, which was the shop breaking GDPR. Which carries a large fine.
I live in the town abingdon. SO HOW DO WE REPORT THEM FOR THIS OFFENCE.
@@otissjake I would imagine via their regulator. Which will probably be the Financial Conduct Authority.
Not to worry though, there'll be no GDPR soon.
Nonsense.. He was deliberately filming so he would hope to get the police involved.. And then hope he would get a reaction from the police.. But they were quite decent to him ( bet he was gutted with that) look people some police are well out of order.. But he's deliberately trying to get a reaction.. Nuff said
@@matthall9841 the fact of the matter is the police do not have a reason in hell to even speak to him, either recording in public is a crime or it isn't, the boy in uniform claiming it can be a nuisance? you can't make your own laws up as you go along .
This has to be the world's longest call to the police ever known to mankind. The security officer looked like he was just talking to a buddy for a half an hour.
He must have a direct line to God, well his God.
Yeah he was on that phone to 999 for sometime while people are being robed,raped and murdered.
😹
The reactions from the ignats are priceless. Far better than any comedy on the TV. You keep your cool while they loose their heads.
Lose :)
Lose not 'loose' - loose is an adjective, Louis LOL
The clown in a yellow vest and wearing a baby diaper mask
Lose. thicky.
AB, I've said before...I love your work. I love the way you don't raise your voice and eventually beat them down with logic.
Thank You🤛
Not logic, facts.
I doubt the police officers in his video are able to comprehend the basics of logic, as in "round peg in round hole".
I bet they'd put the square peg in the triangle hole..
@@AuditingBritain still I think you can do even better by giving more pointed replies to those tyrant cops just like Amagansett press, Long island audit or Bay area transperancy. I don't know how cops behave if anyone stands up for there constitutional right over in UK but in usa if an auditor knows his rights and knowledge about what he is doing than no cop can do anything to him. I like your way of auditing but in most of the videos of yours, i see whenever some cops show up, You start being a little defensive and let them talk over you too much even if they are wrong. I like your audits, just hope you stand up for yourself a bit more in the future in front of cops 😄
Sycophant...
@@khurrambaig1867 amagansett guy is awful. Most irritating guy on the internet. Him and his inbred family. That time he cried and handed his id 🪪 over straight away after he got arrested like a bitch. Massive fail from an auditor. Biggest fail I’ve see. And serves him right the way he speaks to people. He only carries his gun to prevent getting punched in his face
Hahahaha, that woman "who are you?" She literally will talk down to anyone instead of taking the criticism, turn the screens, accept the free help and avoid a massive fine for breaching someone data.
@Bres of the Tuatha De Danann Based.
@Bres of the Tuatha De Danann Well this is 2021, how dare you presume their gender. /S
i feel sorry for her husband
Her over inflated ego wouldn’t let that.
People dont hear people out because they want authority. She had a bad morning and wants to bark at someone.
It makes me laugh the way people think just because they don't like something that someone else is doing, it makes it illegal. 🤔🤣
Another Training Video for the POLICE COLLEGE.... Wot NOT to do... Basic Police Training..
@lawrence windrush same where I live with openly carrying a side arm. Tourists from other states freak out when they see it..call the cops...cops laugh at them.
@@joem1102
Should have the right to bear arms in the UK, even our Olympic teams for shooting have to train in another country.
And yet even more of our Police are armed with side arms and machine guns, they look as if they are about to invade Poland.
@@joem1102 lucky guns are totally illegal in the UK 🇬🇧
@@theaylesburycyclist8756 cause you let them...we ain't playing that game here
Everyone needs to take lessons from this gentleman right here. He knows how to talk and carry himself around police.
He's cool, calm, collected, well spoken, educated on the law and most importantly polite and civil.
agreed
I don't think he knows how to talk at all. He got involved in long, convoluted discussion with the police officers instead of simply informing the officers he was going about his lawful business when two irate people accosted him. He pointed out to the irate persons that they were in breach of the Data Protection Act whereupon they left and the police were called. That's all he needed to say and all that he should have said, repeatedly if necessary. He should have stayed on the ball instead of attempting long, meandering explanations to the officers and before the officers left he should have asked them if they would speak to the irate persons for breaching the Data Protection Act.
@@frankclough380 Maybe he could've been a little more direct but he wasn't doing anything illegal and shouldn't have to explain himself. He was unlawfully detained so he exercised his right to remain silent which He can exercise any time.
He told the officers the place of buisiness was in breach of the data protection act and they didn't seem to care.
Like most cops they were prideful and egotistical. You cant tell them anything. They do what they want.
Thank God he was recording or false accusations would be taken seriously and lead to arrest.
People said he was rude, confrontational and aggressive. Which wasn't true at all.
It's perfectly legal to film in public and that's that, end of story.
@carolyn boyce There's only a few simple principles to actually remember. Remain within the boundaries of the law and make sure you film absolutely everything so that false accusations can't be made. Youre legally within in your rights to film in public. That's all you really need to know. Just say I'm an auditor , you don't answer questions, and I now invoke my right to remain silent. If they illegally detain and try to question you ask for a supervisor. If that fails ask to contact your attorney. Just make sure to Get their names and badge numbers so you can hold them accountable later. Simple.
That woman came out of the shop demanding answers and then when you started answering she didn't want to hear it?! You said can I finish and she said no. So why did she bother asking? 😂🤔 There's no cure for stupid and it's scaryyyyy
She was busy trying to rib of a buyer that’s why she’s pissed ,a real bitch ???
The security guard with his bottom lip hanging out the mask is ending me 😂
Too much lollipop 😂😂😂😂
Lol 👌🏽😂 🤣 😂 🤣
Looks like a puppet lol
I was howling at that, looks ridiculous
he is drinking his 'KOFI' annan!
Bet they didn't go speak to estate agents about the offences they're committing.
What offence were they committing?
@@truthbaxter9689 If you were a customer of that estate agent, would you be happy with your personal information potentially showing through shop front windows on a high street? In these days of technological marvel with even phones now getting optical zooms, all can be recorded clearly. An estate agent's computer systems hold bank statements for proof of deposits for house purchases, people's employment details, and finance for tenancy applications, addresses for all customers, their mobiles, credit card details for fees... I operate a mortgage broker firm, they are in serious breach of data protection laws and they must be as thick as shit to not even realise. Opaque film on the windows, or a move around in the office to ensure screens not seen from the shop front.
You can bet they didn't.
These scum serve corporations not the people these days
Whenever he makes a valid point, every cop replies with ‘ok’ or ‘that’s fine’ to quickly dismiss it. Can’t stand being wrong can they
The funny thing is, if he was a private business that made a profit from exposing businesses for breaching data protection, the police would have sided with him, they are only there to protect for profit businesses activities and not for the publics interests.
US cops do the same damn thing. It's disgusting to hear. You can hear the contempt drip from their voice.
Exactly.. these cops really are stupid.. just can’t comprehend anything beyond their own take on things regardless of no laws being broken.
It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they've been fooled!
This includes the public & the Police!
The security man needs to understand he's got no power of law...
I suspect one day, these shits will be like fully fledged Stasi. Once the Government decide to consider drawing up a new version of Human Rights Legislation that favors the State, rather than the individual.
@SISU OUT ! yep so you can easily see the Moron (who hasn't got a clue what his job involves) at a distance.
He has a hi-viz jacket. That's immediately bestows him with more power than MI5, MI6, Interpol, Special Branch and God.
@@johnsmith-zu5db Spot on imported tyrant's
That may take some time.
These so called officers need lined up alongside the politicians! It's high time we sorted this out once and for all!
Much love from here in bonnie Scotland 💙
What do you call 50 politicians and 50 dumb cops at the bottom of the sea.
A good place to start.
@@concernedindividual7056 haha love it💙
@@concernedindividual7056 crab bait!
Arrive in a strange town and immediately start winding everyone up😂
Love it👋👋👋👋👋👌
Yeh what an idiot
but hes right about a data protection breach. There the ones breaking the law not AB
@@montygti he’s bang on right about many things and that’s why he’s making the vids instead of being banged up🙈
The sole purpose of the videos is to get into a confrontation with anyone preferably a police officer. He knows what he's doing will attract attention. Then when he get searched he wonders why
@@matthewdumbrell7578 ok so what's your name and badge number 🤔
Isn't it amazing that they were more concerned about you filming than a whole company breaching data Protection. What a joke. Great share, love it.
they should have a visit from GPDR, slapped with a fine then we will see who is laughing
And it proved his point perfectly, if he hadn't filmed it there's no evidence, they get away with it, and I guarantee they act the exact same way anyway calling the police on him. And then the police would have been asking him 'yeah but why you looking in their windows, can you understand why they feel harassed?' Assholes, every one of them.
They know all of our data are breached. Government owns you . That's why they don't care. . Since data protection, everybody just signs their data actively away to others.
The security guard dreams of reaching the dizzy heights of G4S lololololol
he thought that it could be the last chance in his life
🤣🤣🤣 killed it
@@ether187zzz cbs
.........when we all know that working for G4Stupid is plumbing the depths!
He doesn't contradict enough laws to be up there yet 😂
no one ever brings up how the government films us as much as they can in every way.
This man’s job: where I can find the police so I’ll teach them the law 😂😂
@@rockingglock7954 No they would just shoot him.
That interaction with the first estate agent is like a Monty python sketch 🤣🤣
"GO BACK TO YOUR SHOP!" had me in tears, AGAIN. Your interactions are pure brilliance, and show the absurdity within modern Britain up with a LASER beams focus
The staff claimed you were rude to them, but you have proof you weren’t, because luckily you were recording.
Rude people never like to be challenged about their own rudeness but are usually very quick to point out someone else’s perceived rudeness. It’s a trait of the narcissistic authoritarian
Plus he's right about the screens. I'm a sysadmin. They're not meant to have the screens like that. My local estate agent has it in a way that you can't see the screens. I recall working nr Fleet Street, looking at other offices from height...being able to read people's screens (with my binoculars!!)
Typical estate and letting agents type!
Would you want to buy from these people let alone trust them with your details.
That little weasel sausage he definitely got bullied at school thinks now because he's a pig he has power over everyone else
Next time just report them for Data Protection Breach and then see how they like the fine they get.
Arrest the security guard for wasting police time and lying.
He's prob an entitled illegal telling Brits about obeying the law.
While they've probably broken so many laws coming over.
He needs to be investigated for fraud too.
Wasting police time and our money on that security guy.
@@warorislam I agree he called the police unnecessarily but you have no idea of his background; makes you sound like a bigot
@@simonb5986 why
@@warorislam wow you got all that from this video?? You really are a sad person who needs to empty his heart and soul from racial hatred
Hello AB from Lovington New Mexico USA 🇺🇸! I just discovered your channel! Love it already!
👍
'I'm detaining you'
'under what grounds?'
'I don't have to tell you, as you're not under arrest'.
🙈 Get a clue, buddy.
Yep. Basic policing 101.
It doesn't instill much confidence if they don't even understand the basic arrest powers.
@Pinga Lu112 what an insult to pig shit it's very useful as compost I'd class them as useless as the toxic scented trees hanging in a car 😁💓
under what grounds? are you serious? a member of the public (sia badge security guard) contacted the police and said he was suspicious and aggressive and was filming and who knows what else he said off camera. this is enough grounds for suspicion. seriously this audit needs an audit
its not about photography anymore
@@ibrahim-sj2cr yeah, because taking one side of the story without even approaching the other individual and taking their word for it is really good impartial policing 👍🏻 plus, he wasn't even being aggressive. His film showed that, so he was full of it. Nice try on justifying the response though.
Haahahah that guy just learned that the world wasn't built around him. His mind must be blown.
What guy?
mr ego man
The only harassment l saw in all of this was, the harassment from the cops berating you for doing a perfectly legal activity...
... and the lying security guard.
AB you are the best at what you do. If it was me I would have told that rude cop, that I would report him to the Information Commissioner (IC) for collusion with the Estate Agent in breaching data protection laws and potentially displaying private information that you had evidence of and could lawfully share with the IC. You are a hero AB!
Tyrants, Snowflakes and a Karen.... Abingdon has it all!
And not forgetting carrot-crunching, country bumpkin local-yocals!
I know Oxfordshire very well and I can tell you that Abingdon is a stinking shithole. Like every single place in Oxfordshire. The highest levels of inbreeding in Europe and and overaboundance of mutants. Must be the water. Or all the goats they fuck....
this place is more like sandford(hot fuzz) ....in breading at its worst.
@@MrGiorgioud does that explain why they vote just tory
I suspect Morris dancing might be a local delight in Abingdon.
Teach them a lesson and report them for a breach of GDPR. See how they feel harassed then with the fine they receive.
Indeed. I would send them the information from the camera. They believe they are above the law and used the law to harass.
Don't worry I will report them tomorrow, it is my civic duty.
Go to ICO
@Pinga Lu112 what a nasty little entitled wasp she was...
@@vincitveritas3872 Unfortunately the ICO are about as useful as the police in responding to complaints.
That was classic AB. Its amazing that people don't know about data protection and filming lawfully in a public area.It really gave me a good chortle. Nice one.
If AB has personal info on his phone that he caught from those screens then the OFFICE is in trouble, not AB
Literally thousands and thousands of videos online. Countless cases in the news. And yet people are still ignorant to their rights regarding public filming.
@ Luke Vaughan People are more interested in sharing bulls**t on Facebook and the like instead of issues that really matter. I'm not on it but my other half is and the amount of absolute shyte that people want her to SHARE & LIKE no wonder this type of ignorance still exsists.
Awesome Karen, Did the folded hands the works, Impressive Karren. PMSL
Lmao at ass comment. Karen needs reporting over data breaches see if she acts the same way when fines come through lol
PC Shortie turns his camera OFF when AB dresses them down,so his bosses dont see his response to it As for the other PC, he needs to go back for more training ASAP He seems to have forgotten the laws already !
I would agree about the retraining John, however, after seeing what the police seem to be getting away with during ‘this current climate’ (😂) I can’t help feel they are being trained to be exactly like in this video! Pick on the citizens, stamp on rights and stick up for other peoples ‘feelings’.
@@Lordjohn007 When the people bite back ,they don't like it for some reason !
@@johnnosiennek7066
The police don't have a brain to think with and therefore don’t like to be questioned; it gets in the way of their programming!
Problem is coppers ego's gets in the way of the 1 brain cells worth of the law they know. No one has to talk to them if they so wish. For a citizen to question their poor actions, knowledge, etc (bare in mind a copper can lie legally) they either get defensive or want to go hands on and trump up charges to make a person's life harder just because they can, which is just another way of trying to show they have power over people, pathetic egotistical thugs in most case's.
But he has long trousers on ????
Breech of data protection laws in England is rife - I even caught out the Chancellor of the Exchequer's Office legal department doing it!
A Karen and a Nigerian car park plod at the same time. You hit the jackpot. 🤣
@@mookieibra6376 Oh STFU. You utter tosser.
@@mookieibra6376 how da fuk you know that. you pritti pattel or something
Lovely stuff 👌😉
@@mookieibra6376 he's as British as Priti Patel
and don't forget David Brent wannabe,
He's being rude and aggressive. The immediate question should have been "how is he being aggressive and what is he doing?". What type of offense is rudeness? This is what happens when you have hate speach laws.
Before you criticise a law, learn to spell the word properly.
@@kevh6948 ok English teacher 😂
Guilty until proven innocent! This was never the way it is supposed to be.
The cop was drinking instant coffee. He had no grounds. He said he had grounds to make an arrest, but he cannot tell AB what the grounds are because then AB would know they don’t exist.
I think it is embarrassing and even worrying that there are so many people who make assumptions about what constitutes a breach of their right to privacy simply because they don't like the idea of somebody filming them without their permission. With so much surveillance in place and not to mention the proliferation of camera phones, there is no excuse for not having the facts regarding all the ins and outs of filming. This includes those that the dillusional ones run to with their complaints.
Whoever calls the police is right even if they are wrong.
Call the police for cameras. That person should b fined
I dont like your comment, I'll call the police.
@@giggsn11 😂😂
Especially if they're white
Yep, sometimes if someone threatens to call the police it works to your advantage if you call them first esp in cases where it's he said she said
None of them understand you're doing them a legit favour. Crazy people
They might start to understand if AB reports them to the ICO.
ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/what-we-do/how-we-handle-concerns/
correct. all thick, not one understood AB's point
Doing a ‘legit favour’ would not be recording them and posting it on CZcams. C’mon now you’re not as thick as this twat are you?
A legit favorite would be going in the shop and explaining nicely that the screens are on show! What he did was not a favor at all! He stood filming them and making them feel uncomfortable for a couple minutes before they had to come out and ask what he was doing so of course they are going to have there back up from the get go! Don’t intimidate people and expect a nice response 👍🏼
@@annabelbennett6044 are you the rude, snappy lady from the video?
19:50 “can you release me, free me” - “fine, whatever”. How to get out of police detention, just ask! Brilliant thanks AB
Great stuff about time these Black knights in Abingdon met there match, keep up the good work, watch you all the time👍🤣😂
You can't cause a public order when your are in a legal activity.
You can't criminalise a legal activity
They can . They are the filth
"I'm detaining you, I actually don't have reasonable grounds to do so and can't answer a straight question when asked, but if you want to incriminate yourself that would make my job a lot easier"
I dont have a huge issue with how the police acted. They can only go on the information given to them (wether its true or not) and that information was that he was being aggressive and intimidating and that is enough grounds to suspect a public order offence may have been committed.
Was waiting outside an estate agents the other day and I thought the same thing about data protection, whilst looking straight into the office at a computer screen with emails, names, numbers and addresses on it. I knew I wasn't the only one.
As a cop, bloody know what you can and can’t do and own up when you are in the wrong. Bunch of ignoramuses brrrr😢
Why don’t the police educate the people that need educating like the estate agents. They going after the wrong person.
@Leti Atrii I assume you are talking about speakers corner? Are the police trying to stop freedom of speech? Or stop crowds of people?
@@ChrisPrice1977 where have you been?
Chris Price
Do you really expect the police to educate other idiots like themselves; that's like expecting mongols to educate other mongols!
@@ChrisPrice1977 both
@Steve Hickman you only have the right to keep your own nose out.
I will apologise once again for all the calls , I will definitely be taking care of that on my next audit.
Thank you for watching
What is wrong with the police? Breach of data protection is a criminal offence, filming is not. Or am I missing something?
Is it the mental asylum you're registered with checking up on you because your ankle tag tells them you're out of range?
These 2 were a bit rude and power trippy AB, young and inexperienced.
@@sharifela7993 by capturing the data you're complicit in the crime
No worries. Keep the police waiting and give priority to the phone. It was quite amusing.
The "security guard" phoned the police to deflect the fact that he arrived in the uk in a dingy last week.
😂😂😂
Must of been a bloody big dingy. Andy England 🇬🇧👍
@Tiger Dont cry
To be fair he did have a yellow vest !!
@Tiger you clearly work in McDonalds living in your moms 1 bedroom flat
We need more of these videos 😂. so funny how u creep up behind them at window
The fear-driven, mindless aggression of the estate agent sums up my reasons for not wanting to be in the UK. Can't wait to escape back into the complexities of the world and out of the infantile insignificance of those people and their sorrowful grasp on what's important.
AB is right.. this is not the US where police can do investigative detainment... There are specific powers to detain, Sec.1 PACE, Sec.60, MDA 23..
However, If the officer suspect AB of Sec.5 public order offence his only option is to arrest AB if he insist on leaving.. and de-arrest him if it turned out the information is not true.
However, before the officer can arrest AB the officer must have made up his own mind based on objective facts the offence has been committed.. the officer cannot make that determination because his colleague was still speaking to the complainant.
In short, that was an illegal detainment.
Dead right.
There are very few powers to detain as such.
Stop and search powers are the most obvious. Breach of Peace arrest powers and I believe there is a power under the Mental Health Act to detain.
Outside of those there is no power to detain in order to find reasonable suspicion of an offence.
Essentially, outsideof the powers mentioned above, an arrest is the constables power of detention.
(If memory serves me right, I think there are powers to detain people in premises when executing a search warrant).
@@Stuart_George
Absolutely, right sir.
During a search warrant they can detain to stop people moving around to tamper with evidence
Exactly!!
@yoochoooob
Thank God the police don’t carry guns it would be shoot first ask questions later..
@yoochoooob Hi-viz in itself doesn't seem to make much difference. I think Marti has worn it and has still been questioned and harassed.
This guy is brilliant, stands up for his rights, and the security guard should be a Politician... A good liar
He lies much he works at the hospital I got taken to he’s violent as well
@@boejiden.1445 Really, ALL politicians are lying, bent and corrupt nonceses
Most of the security officers in uk are like that unprofessional and liars
There have been actual cases in the UK where fraudsters pose as estate agents and email house buyers with bank details to send deposit to, so estate agents leaking email addresses etc is actually a serious risk.
AB you've got so much bottle, you say and do what everyone wants to do, well done the nation's hero.
No hero of mine. He's a fool!
Section 5 states “using threatening words or behaviour” likely to cause alarm harassment or distress. The police always omit the first bit to use it to their benefit
Binge watching your vids today bro! I love your audits. You have style. And the architecture there is amazing!
"Off you go"...
He is the king or something?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That woman was pissed lol and that secruity is lying his **** off
These videos are kinda like a first person video game where the main goal is to troll the police 😂
It’s up to them to use there brain cells
*their* looks like you’re missing a few brain cells too 🤡🤡
Allen & Harris, proud suppliers of peoples private data. At a shop window near you!
Be a regular!
And Chancellors - guess who my family will never be using...
AB you should try and have a walk filming around Dover, there is a nice port.
That would be great to see.
Thanks 🇬🇧
This cop is a total embarrassment, and he looks nine years old😂😂😂unlawful detainment .
@Record Your Government , yep your right👍
Whys he an embarrassment asking normal questions ?
"I dont want to be filmed"
**spends five minutes talking to the man with the camera instead of walking away**
Typical security guards, employed to simply be a visible (off-putting) presence.
Their job is to call the police. What a waste of money,.
Finally, someone treats estate agents the way they should be treated. Useless intermediaries that are always out for their own selfish interest, screwing buyers and sellers alike!
That woman was super angry, people react so weirdly to cameras. The first officer was also very passive aggressive, he wanted to arrest you
in this case it constitutes harassment and serves no other purpose than to irritate and annoy people. in this case it'll an illegal use of a camera in public
Its a camera not a a gun
@@jeffbanks9955 Incorrect. Also, she was only angry because she knew he was right, they ARE breaching data security. They need either glass covering or privacy screens on ALL monitors. Learn the facts before you comment.
@@vaiman7777 1) if you intend to use the photograph for publication, commercial use or stock photography then you need a signed model release. youtube counts as publication.
2) you cannot photograph someone (using a long lens for example) from a public space of them in a private place, such as their home, without their consent. This is an invasion of privacy even though the photo is taken from a public place. This was a privately owned commercial property and is therfore in breach of privacy laws and illegal. do your own homework buddy boy.
Why do you think paparazzi arent allowed to stand outside peoples homes and photograph them inside their own private residence? think next time before you comment
@@jeffbanks9955 Seems Chief Inspector Edward Hancox also disagrees with you chump. You obviously need more training officer, ask for it so we don't have to put up with nonsense like you post. Educate yourself correctly next time before you contact me ok chump.
That "security" bloke would make a good politician, lying through his teeth the whole time.
Like the labour party lol
@@mattuk56 fuck Labour, but do you really think the other parties are choir boys? Lol!!!
There was a time when security guards just protected private sites, shops, offices and buildings from within.
To now see them stationed in the streets and even patrolling our towns is deeply disturbing.
Cultural enrichment
Wait unti it's a multinational force.
Another great video- eye opening! Personal data is being breached every day without us realising or appreciating it. Fairplay for the audit.👊👍
Modern all-glass banks do it all the time, everything you need is all there from the front window
That thicko security, hadn't a clue were he was, when on the phone to the police, I am suprised he never said, The 22 bus, has just passed me.
Silly Officer should know he has to define the offence. Just saying a public order offence does not cut it. There are many public order offences
Yeah and it is also bad practice (I assume there is nothing preventing actually requiring this) to:-
(a) only notify someone that they are being detained upon them asking if they are; until this point AB wasn't being detained, he could have left on his own accord, and had he not asked, the officer wouldn't have specifically told him he was detained for x offence. I am sure AB isn't a mind reader!
(b) detain (or arrest) someone for an offence based upon a phone call allegation without witnessing it or having any evidence to determine one had taken place. I think it is just poor logic to deem someone guilty of the allegation because the detailed description given matches! This is a common issue.
(c) on explaining that he was acting lawfully (filming in a public place which he was seen doing - hence this video including the police interaction) to then accuse him of harassing them. I don't think AB was rude and that isn't an offence anyway. We will see much more of officers using POA to incriminate lawful photographers for when the terrorism act isn't sufficient.
I think it's good practice for them to know and state the actual offence, however I don't think he HAS to state the actual offence Marti.
There is case law on a virtually identical event. The officer had just stated 'Public Order' when making an arrest.
The Judge ruled that it was acceptable.
However the Judge did concede that his 'mind waivered' on this point, so maybe in slightly different circumstances, on a different day, it might be determined that the actual offence from the Act does need to be quoted.
But at the moment, I feel the case law would point to the fact that it would not change the legality of the arrest.
Case was Walker v Metropolitan Police if you're interested.
Funnily enough, if he had bothered to know and learn the public order offences he might have realised he missed some rather important elements of the offence.
@@Stuart_George A ‘stop’ occurs when a police officer or a Police Community Support Officer (PCSO) stops you and asks questions. This is known as a ‘stop and account’, and is not a stop and search. You are free to leave at any time.
To work out if you are being stopped and searched or if it is a stop and account, you can ask the officer: ‘Am I being detained?’ A police officer can only detain you when carrying out a stop and search, so if the answer is ‘no, you are not being detained,’ it is a stop and account and you are free to leave. You do not have to give your name and address.
They must have reasonable grounds and those grounds must be based on clearly articulable facts. They can't just make it up and stop someone.
They then have to explain the stop and give certain information about why they are conducting the stop as well as the relevant section of law that they are relying on to make the stop. This very rarely happens and is as a result of sloppy police training and supervision but it's useful to be an informed member of the public in this regard as if the stop is not conducted correctly you can simply walk away.
@@grouchomarx5649 Yep, well aware of the difference between stop and account vs stop and search vs arrest.
My point was about the fact that officers don't need to state the section and title of the offence when making an arrest.
Marti suggested it is required. I disagree, and suggest the case law tends to say otherwise.
My comment is not really aimed at what occured here, as he was never arrested, just a more general point.
BTW, I also disagree slightly that you can 'just walk away' if it isn't conducted correctly. I can't really see that working in practice. The police aren't just going to let you wander off if they failed to stick to a provision in the Code of Practice (such as the GOWISELY requirements).
It may help you in any subsequent civil or criminal proceedings, that they did fail to adhere to the provisions, but I very much doubt that they will just let you leave.
@@Stuart_George you should watch focus pocus, best auditor around he sets the standard on how it should be done.
IQ NOT required for a cop, they couldn't catch a cold let alone a robber.
This guy never seems to lose an argument, always seems to havr answer to shut people down 😂
The only offense committed was the one of not protecting client data by the Estate Agents. However AB is the one being spoken to by the police. They didn't seem to understand that!
Beach of data protection is a serious offense and all commercial businesses have a duty of care regarding the custody of client information held on business computers. There is specific legislation and legally required training regarding this matter.
Please boycott these people.
I couldn't see where the mention of a public order offense was relevant.
Another good one AB.
YO!
Why are they talking to him, they should go back in and tell the people to turn the screens round. If your info was in that office then you should complain. Christ on a bike there is too much scamming going on without offices letting everyone see peoples information.
They are enforcing their personal feelings rather than the law, if they was enforcing the law they would have left the law abiding citizen alone and dealt with the shop that was breaking the law.
@Matthew721 79 my old landlord took over the rental after 6 months. My teenage daughter battling cancer had carbon monoxide poisoning down 2 3 dodgy gas safety certificates carried out by a Unqualified Engineer. We called environmental health out and they put a order on so to stop us paying rent - the old landlord went to the old Estate Agents and got our information without us knowing - she started contacting my work, my husbands work, then she started splashing around our in-depth credit report - Estate Agents have to destroy your credit file within 30 days. It was shocking the amount of information including my twitter, Facebook and Instagram account with pictures of my family shocking stuff really with this Estate Agents
I took the afternoon off work to clean out my guttering, and ended up watching another three hours of AB !!! 😖😖
I just spent 3x days watching!
@Sim C Nee, niet ik
I did the same!
Your not the only one
@@MrBubbies543 Were you planning to clean out my guttering too??
The true master at work ... smooth as always .... often wonder why you guys don't carry copies of the acts and the much talked about email , to get them to read them back to you
The woman at the estate agents was quite aggressive to be honest. She was the one that made a mountain out of a molehill. As for the policing, there appears to be no consistency. One tells you one thing, another tells you something else. It really is like the blind leading the blind with them. They seem make things up as they go along. To be honest, the entire system is in desperate need of radical change.
This is the standard of training these days. Don't worry, we have another 30,000 ill trained cops soon to come on the beat.
Aggressive because she thinks she has backup.
These numpties like Lorraine Thornton, Sandra Ward etc need to grow up
@@Alex-bq3tj Even officers themselves moan about some of the training.
Seriously, do a little digging around on NCALT training, and you'll find it is acknowledged by many (not all) as being a bit of a waste of time.
It seems to involve sitting in front of a screen watching a video and clicking on the correct answers during the 'training'.
Those that do moan about it, mainly just say they learn little from it, and they would much prefer a more traditional learning method. (i.e. a real person teaching, with the ability to ask questions, discuss things amongst the class, throw ideas about etc etc).
I guess NCALT training may work for some, I'm just not sure it is best suited to teach the skills required by modern policing.
@@GodAtum how can they expect privacy in a town centre with massive windows on an open plan office. The data on those screens is private yet facing the public. I'd hate to think that some of the sensitive information I've previously given estate agents is on display through a shop window. If you don't understand that this is the problem here, then you are part of the problem.
Everyone email the agents. Ask them to delete the email as you don't want your details displayed in the shop window. This the message i sent. Abingdon@allenandharris.co.uk
Hi. I saw a property for sale in your shop window on a youtube video for £625k, can you send me details. Also please can you delete this email as I dont want my private details displayed to the public in the shop window. Thanks.
Just think how many people have been wrongly charged, accused of something, moved on, arrested, bullied etc before we had recording devices and the ability to post the results online. Millions!
While the security guard is on the phone you are being watched by their CCTV with his running commentary.
Good audit that one, really enjoyed it. Totally agree with the GDPR angle, I work in I.T and we constantly have to obsess over not storing customer details insecurely.. It annoys me to see people with whole monitors in plain view of public (very blatantly) They should be fined IMO, as it's the only way companies will learn to follow and respect the rules..
You can tell this is recent times with the amount of muppets with masks on out in fresh air
I know mate absolute twats
I know, what a bunch of tossers. I still haven't worn one. I refuse to wear a muzzle.
And 70k of the muppets who didn’t wear them now wear a pine box!
CONVID-1984 Biggest Illusion of the world to bring on the "Great Reset"
@@colonialclive Stop watching the mainstream media. You're being lied to.
The use of the facemask by the security guard, shows you everything you need to know about his way of thinking!
Captain dandruff looks like his mum dressed him this morning
😂😂😂😂😂
"if i start picking out the odd things around here, i would have a huge list." haha... no doubt man.
In hundreds of years time I guarantee you historians will cherish this tumultuous period
"There's a better way of doing it"
Yes there is, report them to the local council for GDPR breaches and let a council officer go round and catch it themselves and hand them a big fat fine, I guarentee they won't call the police on them.
Excellent Dan Who would trust their information with this firm of estate agents ? Any the knaive or foolish
@@johnmeehan9189 Might be good idea. Let's find out the name of this one and report them lol
Whether there's a better way is of no concern to the police. They are not here to act as lifestyle advisors or gurus. They are here to uphold the law. That's it!
Im glad someone is showing the public our taxes are being wasted on these dossers
Two sides to every story … can’t detain innocent people …. End off sue him …