1970 Plymouth HEMI Cuda vs 1969 Chevrolet Chevelle Super Sport | STOCK DRAG RACE
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1970 Plymouth Hemi Cuda vs 1969 Chevrolet Chevelle Super Sport. Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race. Factory Stock Drag Race.
First car is a 1970 Plymouth Hemi Cuda, the other a 1969 Chevrolet Chevelle. The Chevelle is a Super Sport (SS396) with a L89 V8 with factory aluminum heads rated 375 horsepower. The Hemi Cuda has a 426 Hemi V8 rated 425 horsepower. Both cars have automatic transmissions. The Hemi Cuda has 4.10 rear gears, and the Chevelle has 4.88 rear gears. The Hemi Cuda weighs 3745 pounds, including the driver. The Chevelle is 3690 pounds. There were only 652 hardtop Cuda produced in 1970 with the Hemi, and only 67 L89 Chevelles in 1969 with the automatic transmission.
Remember, both cars participate in the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race series, so please check out their website: www.psmcdr.com
Also make sure you find them out on Facebook.
The rules for PSMCDR are listed below:
For 1955 to 1979 musclecars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Any car running faster than 11.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Any convertible running faster than 13.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Blocks do not have to be "numbers matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only.
All Engines - compression ratio 1.5 extra points allowed over advertised.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed.
The valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed.
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Cast-iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are NOT allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. Pipes must be routed as they were originally for the year, make, model, and engine combination. Mufflers must be stock looking in design, that is, oval in shape. No glasspacks or straight pipes allowed unless installed as original equipment. Maximum muffler inlet and outlet size is 2.5 inches. X & H pipes allowed.
The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed. Duration at .050" lobe lift must be within 1% of factory specs. Lift at the valve must be within 2% of factory specs. Maximum stall limited to 2200 rpm.
The transmission must be correct for year, make, model and engine of the car. 3-speed manuals may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed.
Reproduction tires or radial tires only.You are allowed to run tires one size over stock.
Factory wheels only.
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Miss the old classics. It's nice that we can still watch these beauties drag it out on the drag strip. Real factory power, not computers. Thanks for another great video Cars and Zebras!!
Totally agree…Miss the old days.
@@stevepick9527 everything was better back in the day. (60's, 70's and 80's) Especially the music and cars.
Man oh man. 2 of the top of the heap muscle cars. Both so very rare. I was born in the 50's so I caught the day. Didn't get license till.74 but got to drive & owned a 68 Chevelle 396 w4 speed. Too heavy & sloppy compared to new cars but I really miss those days. So many great stories. I too am glad see people racing these cars full out!
@@josephsellers3844 back then they didn't need computers to run the hell out of em. And those old cars proved what they were: pure muscle! 💪Especially before '72.
I not sure that correct man. Did you ZL1? They only made 69 all aluminium 427's. Now I can't tell if you just mean strictly a Copo option? Cause brother I know that you are incorrect about the ZL1. I think everyone knows they only put that all aluminium 427 in 69 cars.
That 396 running 11s at 117 with stock exh manifolds and those bias ply tires is truley amazing probably lots of work on those heads .
Yeah imagine slicks and tubular headers your looking high 10's good lord that's moving
ZL1 clone in FAST series running 9's in same configuration. Engine dyno'd 900 and some odd number HP in off-season testing.
@@edwinfeldman8231 if your speaking of the Orange 69 Camaro , thats an all Alum 560 cu inch BBC
@@johnnyboyssite LEGALLY running 9's through stock exhaust manifolds/2.5" full length pipes, 3" aircleaner and original size bias ply tires as a ZL1 clone. Yep, same car.
@@edwinfeldman8231 indeed the owner did let out some of his secrets but did admit he's still giving up atleast 100 hp through those manifolds !
The Elephant has been SLAYED. SLIDE ON CHEVY
1969 - 1970. All nine Supreme Court Justices could define man, woman, boy, girl. The EPA hadn't yet wrecked a golden era. Good times.
What EPA?
Trying to equate politics into drag racing is an incredibly bad idea.
Wow, wow, wow! The numbers these guys were putting up. You can tell both were spec’d for speed - low options, automatic trans, etc. Thank you as always - that was some racing.
They’re modified for stock class…the originals were mid 13 second cars at best
I had a friend who had same L89 396/375 with aluminum intake with a Holley and solid lifter cam in a SS El Camino. I’m not shock at all it ran faster than the Hemi Cuda. Actually the Hemi Cuda in this video runs much better than the ones we raced against back in 1969.
Wow, what a great set of races. So closely matched that it was definitely a drivers race. Thanks for the excellent video cars and zebras.
Kudos to both drivers. I fully expected the 396 Chevelle to jump out on the Hemi with the Hemi catching and outrunning the 396 on the top end. Surprised to see the 396 running right with the Hemi on the top end. The owner of the 396 really knows how to tune that sucker!
I'll bet those exhaust manifolds are all punched out.
Hemi out weighed the Bow Tie by a significant margin. Weight kills ET.
That L89 396 was underrated in hp.,...more like 400+.
@@ogg-mena stock built but blueprinted iron head l78 396/375hp engine actually dyno’s at approx 425hp @ 6k+ rpm.
But the hemi also put out closed to 500hp in blueprinted stock build form so the smaller 496 Fid very well wining 3 of 3 very close races.
And in the last/3rd race you could see a lot of blue smoke billowing out of both cars after they let off the gas at then of the race.
A stock built early hi comp mopar 340/275hp engine dynos at approx 330hp+.
Thats why the lighter by 200-250 lbs mopars with true 330hp+ 340’s could keep up with & or beat slight Lu heavier chevy’s running 350hp 396’s. It comes down to simple power to weight ration along tube & driving skill of car owners too.
Those dyno #’s are on an engine dyno with no accessories on the motor running headers.
Would be cool to hear the idle sounds.
Saw title, thought slight mismatch. I have a little grin on my face after that 2nd and last round, both sent it!! Chevy boy here but love all real muscle.
Very closely matched indeed.
Two of the hottest cars in their day. Great races!
WOW! 11sec ET's in pure stock. Great racing here. By the numbers the Cuda should have run circles around the Chevy. Both drivers trying to cut a light for an advantage. Anyone else noticed the excessive smoke behind the chevelle after that last pass?
I saw smoke from the Chevelle after round two. to my eyes, both were puffin' after round three.
Yeah, I noticed the same thing, lots of bluish smoke…😬
@@bruceselenka7181
Might be the way they tuned them maybe
Can't get much more even than this! One of the best races in awhile..2 of the quickest from the musclecar era. Thanks C&Z!
Yeah, the 1969 L89 was rare because for an extra $213 over the L89 396 you could get the new for 1969 425 HP L72 427 under COPO.
Very close drag race. The drag times are incredible! Thumbs up!
The fact a proper optioned 396 chevelle can keep up with a hemi cuda is impressive to me. I wonder how a COPO L72 427 chevelle would do against that beast.
@@bloodybones63 Not a race Hemi
@@bloodybones63 doubtful.. properly tuned hemi should win most of the time
@@andrewp1998 I don't know about that, the 427 held a lot of records in its day, it was a pretty stout motor, what made the hemi so good is when you put a blower on it, it was definitely the best for packing air into
This race was a nail biter. Very close. Thumb up for bringing these to us old street racers. 😊
Another clash of powerful old cars.
Man, those cars ran fast!
Damn that 396 gave that 426 a run for its money. That was some good racing
What is even more rare about that Chevelle is it's 300 deluxe base model! 69 was the ONLY year Chevelle offered the 396 in a base model car. Which is why it's a perfect factory stock dragster.
Excellent cars, both dipping well into the 11's.💪
Normally, a 396 Chevelle would have been a relatively safe opponent for a Hemi Cuda, but the L89 396 was one of Chevrolet's best motors ever. It has been established that the real horsepower rating of the solid-lifter 396 was closer to its rating in the Corvette, (425 BHP,) than its 375 BHP rating in a Chevelle. With those aluminum heads, any opposing street car had its hands full in a race. Thankfully for the competition, L89 cars were scarce as chicken lips.
The Chevelle 300 2 door sedan is rare. I had one with a 6 cyl and 3 on the tree 30 years ago.
Really close matchup honestly, but both are cool cars
My only complaint your last vid was three weeks ago, oh how I miss these great vids, please post more.
I'll take the 'Cuda. Still the coolest car ever in my opinion.
Thanks C&Z
I would be happy with either. The 'Cuda does look tough though. Had a 73 with 340 pistol grip and 390 axle. Miss that one.
Great race !
Great racing!
Great match, I very rare cars. Great to see them doing what they were for !!!!
The Rat versus the Elephant!
@ 0:36
"That fine looking rear end"
👍🏽👌
Absolutely a huge thanks to the owners for racing those treasures! That's what they were built for and kudos to them instead of babying them like fine china!!!!
man both these cars would fly!
What a race, too bad for the red lights. But man what a good combo to race!
There were no red lights
Very cool video, and great races.
That's one healthy small rat right there. You can tell when it's a close match it makes for some red lights. LMAO. Thanks for the vid! 👍
Wow both these car's were getting down the track in a hurry quite impressive. Love it thanks for the video I do miss your funny comitory
666 Hemi Cuda's produced, and only 1,400 still remain.
Awesome , Close Race , Thanks C&Z
THAT 396 WAS HANGING TOUGH . GO UP AGAINST A HEMI . NICE RACE
Hanging tough? The 396 killed it and won
Got one of each of these cars in the driveway. 🤗
In what scale?
@@edwinfeldman8231 full scale. 383 cuda. 69 CHEVELLE
That's some close racing. Notice all the oil at cool down area, looks like both cars are missing exhaust valve oil seals. Back in the day I only put them on intake valves also 😁
They may be pulling oil past loose (on purpose) pistons and rings
PCV issue with the Chevelle. I had the same issue with my Z28. Freaked me out the first time it happened.
Excellent Match!!!
0:16 Love that lil red express in the background.
Vaya un Chevelle SS 396 del 69 vaya VS Dodge Plymouth barracuda 440 del 70 Bro buen video bro
Goodday C & Z,
Battle of the Gods,
Clash of the Titans
Mate that was super racing, mid 11's,
Big Blocks & rare by all measures.
The biggest dis service Ma Mopar ever did was never to offer as an option of aluminum heads on the Hemi.
Back in 1965 the Hemi was fitted with Aluminum Heads so the casting were available.
Imagine if the Hemi could be had with aluminum heads.
Love the sound both very angry motors.
Hope you are well.
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I still remember my Mopar, after the race, that smell of rubber and that Mopar breathing like a half fucked pit bull
great cars. great racing. I'm mopar, but when you said "4.88s", I got goosebumps.
Put 4.88 in the Cuda and add 150lbs weight to back floor of chevelle and do the race again 😮
What a great match up.
I love it, that is a good race!
Man one thing I’ve learned from watching these cars and especially the FAST series is that not only can you live without headers you can absolutely rip! These times are so darn impressive! I wonder what rpm the Chevelle is turning at top end with those 488’s!
Looking at 2:03 on the vid, it looks like the Chevelle's redline on the tach is set at about 6700 rpm.
Another great match. A real joy to watch!
L89 396 was rated at 375 hp but in all reality it was probably closer to 425......and aluminum heads lightened things up a bit.......great set of races here the Chevelle really ripped one off in that last round running down the Hemi .
I don't know if its the headphones im wearing but these two together at WOT sound nothing less than "fucking siiiick"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very awesome 😎
WoW Again! 2 Great and Rare Cars. For a change, I'd love to own the Chevelle. Thanks
You should do a video of some Canadian Muscle Cars 🇨🇦 as well brother.
Good stuff!!
HELL yea
Both cars are beautiful
Those are some beautiful cars.
Super fast! Nice!
Great to see these 2 cars going head-to-head. Do you think the weight differences made the 1/4 times close? Great races and damn fine looking cars! Thank you C&Z
I don't think 55lbs would have made the Chevelle that much faster the engine had to have made a little bit more HP than 375HP to be that close of a race. If you think about it the Cuda made 425HP and only 55lbs more than the Chevelle so the Chevelle had to make a little more HP.....I don't know maybe I'm wrong but I think the Chevelle made just a few more HP and with the weight difference made it go.
@@matthewvarnam4302 it definitely was putting out more power, it was the exact same motor (with iron heads) in the 425hp corvette. They just didn't want people to know they could buy a corvette motor in a Malibu for some reason, but the motors where identical. With aluminum heads, and the other goodies, ya probably closer to 500hp or more
It was the gearing that made the races close.
CHEVY for the WIN
"Chicks dig giant robots"
I'm a Chevy man but the cuda is my dream car. Excellent video C Z thank you for posting this..2thumbs up.
I believe only 400 L89 Chevelles produced and 12 service replacement engines. I know where 2 of these cars are today! Both hdtps.
Good race nice cars but I rooting for the Cuda being a Mopar man myself as far as Chevelles I like the 71'or 72'
Wow, both cars putting out blue smoke at the shutdown. Might be revving a little to much trying to win here.
Those 4;88 gears seems to make a big difference.
Two back in the day boulevard titans
Great race but 4:10s vs 4:88s in the Chevelle, gives the Chevy a major advantage. Put 4:10s in both and see the Hemi live up to it's legend.
Awesome, these are rockets
The only problem with the 396 is that it's not a 427.
Dang them are fast. Hope the chevelle is ok…lots of smoke after liftoff in the 3rd
Would he for trade for super bee?
Ok, now we need a 70 Hemi Cuda versus a 70 LS6 Chevelle. Both with a 4sp and 4.10 gears.
good idea. Run em
I ran 12:33 @117mph in an 81 camaro. It had a 383 stroker, and a super t10 with 3.42 posi. I could never launch that thing good, and I had really good potenza 275/40/17 in the back. How are these guys running that time with heavy cars and shit tires?!
Wow....11.7's out of a little 396.
Not many cars can catch a hemi cuda by half a car length and beat it
The races are very close... good numbers from both cars.. the Chevy was smoking after the last one, hopefully nothing serious
The way God intended it.
Looks like both motors might be hurt...
Find a '70 cuda 440supercommando 4speed with a 3:73 rear
and race !!
That Chevelle runs like a ZL1
It looks like they either both just blew their head gaskets or fried their piston rings!!....
See all the smoke down the track on the 3rd run!
Both cars are heavily massaged
America 🇺🇸
These are actually F.A.S.T. cars. Factory Appearing Stock Tires. Motors are highly modified but appear stock. Back in the day, those were 13 second cars.
No they aren’t. They race in factory stock/pure stock.
imagine a copo 427 chevelle
Imagine a 68 Hurst hemi Dart . Seee yaa. To any GM or Ford for that matter
I guess the driver weighs 45 lb
4.88..
The Hemi could run that gear, too. If it could pull the gear, and not come apart.
following comment NOT a slam - this is good racing. I didn't need to read the rules, these cars LOOK like pure stock. Mechanically, more like NHRA Super Stock.
Definitely not Super Stock, as they have to use factory intake manifolds and original camshaft specs. This class follows the stock rules the NHRA used in the 60s/early 70s.
@@CarsAndZebras Yep, you are correct.
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Not even close to NHRA Stock Eliminator. A 396/375 Chevelle in NHRA Stock Eliminator in A/SA will run 9.90 at 130+.
In Super Stock it would be SS/EA, 9.20 at 142+.
My Super Stock 396/375 makes 790HP+, 580 ft/lb of torque, and runs up to 9200 RPM.
These cars are not even close to either class.
A decent G/SA small block Chevy car will beat them handily.
Himi Cuda 426 dream ca
I don't think so, he still has one that he bought new.
@@jeffreythomas9527 Now that's thinking ahead,of a nice day