Walking foot leather sewing machine w/ servomotor for $225 complete!
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- I was about to purchase a SailRite sewing machine, but just for fun I decided to try out a manual leather shoe patcher machine. I wish they were made in USA, but they aren't. They range in price from $95 to $180 on Ebay and Amazon. I have been told that I am lucky that mine functioned out of the box. Many people struggle with their initial attempts. I knew almost immediately that this would do everything that I wanted in a straight stitch sewing machine, so I hit the ground running and added my servomotor to it. A servomotor has incredible torque, even at its lowest speed, so there is no hesitation punching through several layers of thick material. They use common household needles but there is an easy modification that lets them take larger industrial needles. I have not yet made this modification since household needles handle my thread requirements. There is a China Leather Shoe Patcher Facebook page with a wealth of knowledge available for these machines. So yes, my total investment in the manual patcher, shipping, and the servo upgrade was $225. I designed my own gears in Solidworks and 3D printed them. I am happy to sell the 3D printed parts as a kit. www.ebay.com/itm/284626990270 If you don't see the listing, I am presently sold out and working on new kits. I do not share STL files.
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I can't like this more than once, so I'm commenting to have the algorithm put this on someone else's suggestions page, too. I really appreciate all the info!
I watched four or five videos of different people, a couple motorized, all of the folks did some minor clean up, smooth things, put things in place, and have all worked well. I've seen the bobbin carrier stoned to move smoothly, some minor adjustments for tension and such, but all worked well, and I bought one, arrived couple days later, and worked fine, out of the box, I've put a full day's work "cleaning it up, better" smoothing, making things fit better, and I am very pleased, I've stitched by hand fifty years, wish I'd found one of these, (original, U.S. made) in the junk yard, but this will be fine. I have a machine shop, threw the crank/flywheel/cam wheel on a lathe, faced off the chrome, and got it flat, flipped it, centered on the axis, faced about five thousandths off that side, for a very fine, no blowhole finish on the "cam side". made a stub arbor, mounted the wheel on the stub, and got the periphery concentric with the axis, so it turns very smoothly, evenly, no binding, and I've never liked the look of chrome on bare iron. The springs on the upper thread tensioner are kind of strong, I cut a loop off, but will replace them with springs about two thirds the wire thickness, so they are more adjustable on the light end. The bolt that stops the arm, determining the length of stitch by movement of the "walking foot", should be removed, the threaded end, rounded on a belt sander or filed, so it rests evenly on the arm, giving an even stitch, the thread just rolls off the end, so it's not flat at all. I didn't have to turn the crank/flywheel, but I wanted the smoother "roll" now, not when it's wore in, and needing new rollers replaced. It probably could've been done almost as well with a couple of medium to fine grit stones, taking off all the burrs in the cam milling, and smoothing a rather coarse cut across the backside, it was just faster on the lathe, less elbow grease.
Thanks for a great video, reassuring me of my own purchase and work, hope you enjoy yours as much as I've already, a week in, have.
now that is a sweet total setup. i've got some cleaning and polishing ahead of me, then some practicing, and hopefully on the other side I will be ordering your kit! really great contribution to this community, thanks for sharing the expertise!
John, motorized my machine today, as per your example!!! Thanks for the great kit and the videos!!
Your description was helpful in setting up mine. Thanks. She runs like a greyhound. Awesome.
I've seen a few of these motorised upgrades, but this one is the one that I will do! Great mod and good video, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the very informative video John. I have purchased one of your kits and once it arrives will install it. This video cleared up a few queries. Thanks for sharing.
I’m just a dad of 6. I want to get into leatherwork. You’ve inspired me. No fear! Thank you
Great upgrades. I will be purchasing a belt kit as soon as they are available. Thank you. Tom
I’m pretty impressed with your entire west up ! I sew on a Walking Foot Industrial Chinese sewing machine looks like the Sailrite and your saw horse idea has got me thinking about changing mine over to something similar I mostly do boat and Automobile interior work for my personal vessels and Vintage cars
Thanks John received my pulley from you and can't wait to get it all setup. Thanks
This is one of the best upgrades I’ve seen yet .. very impressed... thanks
Just listed them again. www.ebay.com/itm/284134387759
Fantastic ideas with magnets, smooth machine. many thanks.
Can't wait for you to have more ready. I would like to buy the kit as soon as possible.
Thank you so much. Mine is in the box . Very helpful and informative. IMPRESSIVE TOO .
I would be interested in one of your kits for my stitcher best kit i have seen
Wow! Great info! Thanks for posting!
This is funny, I almost bought a sailrite LS1 earlier today and realized I saw these machines a couples years ago and I really think this is all I need.
When we started our leather business we bought two Techsews at $6,000 each and a TIPPMANN Boss at $1800 with all the goodies. They’re nice but you can perform similar work on much simpler machines (except the fur sewing). You put a great little machine there that with maintenance will last decades! You can mount the motor up to the bottom of your table and use your bar as a knee control like a professional machine!
Great solution. I am looking at picking one of these up. My current Industrial machine is struggling with some of the leather I’m stitching. I love the stand and motor setup.
Glad I could help
Now that was a useful video. Thanks!
3D print a little thin bottom tube that your bobbin magnet slips into. It makes it easy to hold and pop out bobbins.
I will purchasing the attachments soon… thank you!
Nice! Got plans to do the same with mine for leather work! 👍
I'm getting one of these soon so I've been watching as many videos as I can find about them so I have an idea what to expect when I receive it. Definitely going to motorize mine, just in a different way and see if I like it. I might end up changing how I motorize it, but it will be whatever works nicely. Thank you for ideas.
Best design out there so far as I'm concerned.
I'm thinking of using a car wiper motor, 2 Bicycle gears, and possibly a third traditional pully depending on the speed I get. Using a wiper motor you can make the machine stop on command like using a servo motor. Best to have the control and power at a slow speed I think. You use two solenoids and run the thing on a Power brick for a PC. If you are interested in wiper drives look at Halloween automation builds these guys are wizards with these motors I think they are easily overlooked for their uses. Thanks a lot, I learned some.
John, You have the best solution to motorize the famous sewing machine. I got your kit and I am in the process of installing it to start a home leather venture. Thanks again Manny
you can add an oil bath for the tread, because of the speed of stitching , i mean slower by hand will not break the needle, but more than 1000 rpm this will make lot of friction, and you did a good job, thank you for the videos, take care .
Surely the best motorization scheme- better to have more power than not.
JUST ordered your kit!
Awesome video
Great project thank you
Le quedo muy bien, gracias por su vídeo, intentaré hacer algo parecido
Yes you were lucky. I had issues with my show patcher.. in short, i had to rip it all apart and polish all parts that were casuing excess binding and thread breaking. Good thing is now i know how it all works to the point that i now know how to set the timing. 😂
Thanks for posting. Let me when you get more kits in.
just relisted 2 kits
Excellent, thanks.
my works very well. now i have two walk foot on dc
Like butta! Brilliant! Cheers mates!!
You da man John
Very Good!!!
Just messaged you about getting on the waitlist for a kit as there are none available in your Ebay store.
What was the exact Servo motor you used?
When you get more kits up I’m going to have to get me one.
Just listed three. www.ebay.com/itm/284225182833
Great setup! I'll keep an eye out for your kits, looks like none available at the moment.
Thanks. Out of belts right now. Should be here Thursday and I'll put them back on ebay.
Man you are a Genius!! I just ordered one of these machines to start putting patches on hats! I wanted to put a motor on it and watched a bunch of videos! Your setup is by far the best and good motor choice. I’m ordering your kit today. Thanks for the videos and making the parts.
Do you have any kits available? I searched eBay and cannot find??
Me too.
I am interested in one of your kits too
Bravo!!!!!!
If the motor control box is mounted within easy reach, there is usually a one button setting referred to as needle position. Usually adjusted commercially to stop with the needle fully up, but for this setup Needle down and Foot lifted could be useful if navigating complex stitching runs.
Yes, if the servo type with an externally mounted position sensor is used, the position sensor could be placed on the main wheel. I find that I sometimes want to end it with the needle down, and other times needle up, so I didn't think it would be worthwhile to figure out how to mount the sensor.
Thanks my brother for sharing your time so I have a question about the sizes of tread and needle? Thanks
The one that came with the servomotor
Great job. One thing to watch out for when sewing the really thick material is that the presser foot is lifted so high that the needle bar clamp hits it and the you can see the bottom arm bend down slightly under the pressure. Look at 8:20 . I think if you were doing that thickness a lot, you might try to see if you could raise the needle bar a tiny bit. If it skips stitches then you might have to go with a longer needle like an industrial needle. In that case you would have to raise the needle bar anyway to accommodate a longer needle.
I love how you created a 3D printed solution. Practical problem solving with a 3D printer seems so much more interesting to me than printing pretty toys.
B.T.W I have that same Consew motor on my Singer 112W139. I built my own needle position sensor by using two small magnets hot melt glued to the bottom hook shaft
to pick up the up and down positions. I used two $5 hall sensors boards to as up and needle position pick ups fixed to the underside of the bed. The 4 wires: 5v, ground, sensor 1 and sensor 2 hook directly to the back of the Consew control unit using a standard molex style 4 pin connector that you can cut off an old ATX power supply or buy separately. I think it would be possible do something similar on your machine. You could mount the magnets on back side of your crank wheel so that the belt could be removed without a sensor in the way.
This could be an option for your 3D printed kit.
Actually, I don't think that needle positioning is necessary, as you machine seems to be very controllable, but.... it is not very costly to try out.
Nice
Thank you so much for walking us through this set-up, very ingenious! Wondering if the gear kit will be available again? Thanks!
Will put two up on eBay momentarily
@@JohnHansknecht I'm interested in a kit when they are available as well.
im from china，dalian。我收集了好几台这个补鞋机。这个机器有个bug，就是针板因为没有牙齿，所以缝2层皮料的时候，下层皮料跟上层皮料很容易就错开，不齐。所以本人的想法是。。。可否把薄的下板 改成带小小小small small small滚轮的，这样，上下层的皮料就不容易错开了。
I love this setup and was wondering What did you use for the controller?
I've seen a few of your videos about these, not seen a price yet though.
Whst do you charge for them, when they may possibly be available again?
Do you know when you will have more kits available? I just got a new machine and want to upgrade it like you did asap.
Thank you!!!
You got any more photos on how you mounted the machine to that saw horse?
Hello John, thank you for the video, very informative and what we were hoping to accomplish. Will you be making any more kits, currently sold out, as I am interested in purchasing one.
Just relisted three. Thanks! www.ebay.com/itm/284626990270
John, what size needle are you using with that T70 thread?
Hey John! Do you still love this setup? Is there anything we need to know now that you've had if for a few years? I'm thinking about buying the kit you offer. Thanks in advance.
Still working. I don't sew for a hobby, but when I need it, it has worked well.
Thanks for the video. Help! I still can't get the bobbin thread to pull up. I sanded the whole bobbin shuttle down. I've watched several videos on how to thread the machine and bobbin. I finally figured that the bobbin thread goes behind the thread spring. Tried several tension options. The bobbin thread still won't pick up. If I hold the bobbin thread slightly then run a cycle through the machine, it brings thread on the other side of the needle. However, it still doesn't pick up the bobbin thread. Any ideas?
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The method to correct any issue is covered in this video series. It sounds t me like your timing is not set correctly. Good luck. I'm sure it will work. czcams.com/play/PLIECxGWdazf0DAFcs-mUiJwUvlNo8kX0K.html
nice! I just wish the bobbins were bigger.
I completely agree!
Hi, John, Question about the idler. In your instructions you note that there is lateral movement. But I noticed there is vertical movement. I see it is a quarter inch bolt. I tried a 5/16 bolt and it is still loose but does not allow for as much vertical movement. Should this have come with a 5/16 bolt? Is there a reason why you chose the smaller 1/4 inch bolt? Should I switch it for a 5/16 bolt? Thanks. Noel Chartier
I used a 1/4" bolt because it didn't matter in the orientation where there is a constant tension on the pully. If you have your belt with just a slight tension, the inner hole of the bearing will always press on one side of the bolt. You shouldn't need a 5/16" bolt, but if you want to switch, it is no problem either.
Question, what number of needles do you use? I used 110/18 but they break
Hey Christian, what you’ve done here is amazing. Obviously this kit is a hot commodity and is currently out of stock. Is there any way I could get notification when you have more kits for sale on eBay? Thanks
Just relisted! www.ebay.com/itm/284394817980
Awesome! Do you know the thread pitch of the hand crank shaft and nut by chance?
No, I don't. Something metric.
I keep rewatching the part where you hand crank and idk how it was so smooth and effortless. The one I have and many videos I watched it’s difficult. Is this because you used it so much that it’s smoothed out?
There was no thread in the needle, no fabric under the foot. I only had it a week and I had polished the shuttle holder area and greased the moving parts.
Hey John I really like your video. Was wondering if you are going to continue selling these kits? I saw it on eBay but it was out of stock. I’m interested in purchasing one. Thanks John great video.
I just added 3 to the listing.
Do you have a recomendation on which vendor to buy one of these from? I see some now made with Aluminum and 4 axis, 8 axis and 10 axis. Just wondering what you have heard that most people have better luck getting a good one from one place or another.
I don't. And I don't know what you are talking about when you say 4 , 8, 10 axis.
Hi John,
Great video. Don't have the sewing machine but was interested in your 3D printer setup. How about a video or details on that? Like E.G. commented before it's cool to see something useful being made and not chess pieces and toys.
Thanks Marilu, there are a billion people making 3D printer videos. If you buy a quality printer like the Prusa I3 Mk3, then printing is just like printing to a laser printer. The "skill" is in the design of the object in CAD software and understanding where supports might be required for the print.
Your video shows the motor running clockwise , ebay shows it counter clockwise. Is it reversible. Add shows arrows going counter close
I want to purchase the kit but can’t find it on eBay.
Great video! was looking at this machine online. have you tried wax 1mm thread on this guy? I'm assuming I just have to get a bigger needle. Planning to use it on leather products
I have not. You can check the Facebook group China Leather Shoe Patcher (CLSP). Not much room on the bobbin for huge thread.
@@JohnHansknecht waiting to be accepted. thank you
Could you be so kind as to disclose the make and model of the servo motor you use here? lol, ok caught it at the end, never mind and thank you.
John, I noticed your rack gear coming out of the end of the arm. I believe someone put your rack in on the wrong tooth if you install it right it will not come out when you sew. Mine doesn’t. Hope this info helps and I’m getting your mod great motor.
Yes, someone else told me and I fixed it a while ago. Thanks!
@@JohnHansknecht I would be very grateful to buy your gear kit. I keep looking on ebay but its still not there. don't know how to email you.
@@grantreese2507 More listed today www.ebay.com/itm/284134387759
Does the tiny bobbin frustrate you like it does me with mine, especially with large thread sizes!
I'm only using T70, so it isn't too bad. But yes, I understand these are small bobbins.
at 10:03, ... that green sewing machine in the background on the left. Can you tell me more about it? There is a Modern sewing machine for sale in my area very similar in appearnace) and I have an eye on it but cannot really find much about the machine or company. The brand name "modern" messes up every online search I do. I think it is Japanese. What do you use it for? I am wondering if it would be a worthwhile purchase in addition to the manual leather sewing machine (which is why I am watching your video) and a regular domestic sewing machine?
It is a 1950's Morse Deluxe made in Japan. All metal. Smoothest bearings I have ever felt in a sewing machine. Unthreaded, I could give it a spin and it would continue spinning 4 or 5 times before slowing to a stop. I sold it last year. It was a domestic machine, yes, but could also punch through leather, jeans, and when I was selling it I even demonstrated sewing a flattened Coke can to a pair of jeans.
@@JohnHansknecht - Ah, it is a Morse. I misread that. I thought it said "Modern" and had hoped to finally have found someone who can tell me more about this machine. The one I am considering is a 1954 but I am not sure if I really need it if I get the manual leather sewing machine. Maybe for sewing more thicker material that is too thick for the regular sewing machine but too much to do manually. Thank you for your answer!
Just found you John. Currently I have a Rex ZIG Zag machine. I spend more time adjusting and fixing it than I do sewing with it, The machining and parts on it are pure junk. I know the Sailrite is much better but I didn't know about it when I got the Rex. Anyway, I'm thinking of getting a CLSM and if I do I'll get your parts kit and explore motorizing it for doing larger projects like tarps and tops and seats etc. It can't possibly be worse than the Rex. Have you tried sewing anything large, like an awning or boat tarp? If so, did you use any sort feed and delivery tables for the material?
I honestly don't believe you would be happy with the CLSP on large projects. The bobbin only holds enough thread for doing a typical shoe. You would be doing much more adjusting and fixing on the CLSP than your REX.
Howdy John, Just dropping by to let you know I have a video coming out tomorrow sharing your product link. I hope it brings some people your way. Best of Luck, Harrison with Mainely Acres
Oh Geez... I guess I need to get busy printing! I've been slacking off lately. Thanks. And thanks for all of your video efforts to help people tune up their machines!
@@JohnHansknecht No worries, I like your set up and it's a heck of a deal. Keep up the good work!!
@@JohnHansknecht Yes you have. Looking for your kit 👍 Get er done!!!Yy
@@BigBlueMotors I've been waiting over a month for my shipment of belts and they tell me it is still going to be two more weeks.
@@BigBlueMotors Just relisted! www.ebay.com/itm/284394817980
Did you modify the bottom shaft? I see it protrudes when stitching.
No, but adjusted it properly later
I’ve just purchased the leather sewing machine and while browsing videos on how to motorize it , I came across your video and I am very impressed. I would like to purchase your products but can’t find it on EBay. How would I find it?
www.ebay.com/itm/284626990270
Dear John,
Thank you very much for this wonderful tutorial and idea. I have been following the steps as you describe them to motorize my own (same machine, same servo-motor, etc) but when comes to the part of getting the 3D kit, I find imposible to find them, even searching as you suggest in your video description (maybe due to the fact that I live and Spain, and showed lists can differ). In any case I would be interested in creating / getting the kit to complete te motorizing project.
Thank you very much in advance for your time and comments. Kind regards!
I ran out of belts so was waiting for the shipment to put the kit online again. I am reposting it this morning with 6 kits, but I will not be able to ship until 10-14-20 because I am away.
www.ebay.com/itm/284039715534
@@JohnHansknecht Thank you very much for the information and link. However, when trying to purchase the kit it says that unfortunately the seller Will not ship to my location. I live out of the US (Spain), is there a viable solution for me? If shipping is not possible, with some details / measurements I could try to build my own. Thank you agian for the understanding and cooperation. Best regards!
@@falcontoledo I have it listed to sell internationally.. strange. Write me at squamby01@gmail.com and I can try to work this out. I am about to go on a road trip though, so might take a while to get back to you.
@@falcontoledo try it on ebay one more time... I just changed the settings..
Hey John, I just got your 3D parts in the mail, is it possible you can send either pictures or another video of how you mounted the idler pulley,? My hand wheel slightly bigger, I just pulled out the grinder and did a little grinding and now it fits perfectly, I just need to glue it on.
Thanks /Joe
Email me and I'll send some pictures. squamby01@gmail.com
Hi, what foot pedal are you using? Thank you!!
Not using a pedal. Just a rod on the speed controller that is mounted on a lead brick
John, When will more be available??? Thank you!
Available now on eBay. Perform new search.
@@JohnHansknecht Thank you very much. Very quick service and response time. I finally got what I hope I will need to to get this machine productive. I'll let you know how it goes or you will hear from me with questions. Again thanks.
When will you have more kits available?
just relisted. www.ebay.com/itm/284218546884
Anyone who owns this machine, have yall ever done anything with it for car upholstery?
When do you think you would have some more kits up for sale? I am really interested in making my cheap machine more enjoyable to use.
hopefully in the next week or so. I've been waiting two months for my shipment of belts.
@@JohnHansknecht great! I ordered my motor so whenever you get kits put together I will buy one! I’ll keep my eye out on eBay for them. Thanks John!
Are you still using this setup how’s it doing I’m wanting something like this for going through a few pieces of webbing for making hunting tree saddles
I'm not getting much use from it anymore since I stopped sewing harnesses. Thinking of selling it.
@@JohnHansknecht I would be interested in buying it if your willing too ship
How can I purchase? I have the motor, but I saw that you were selling what you devised and I would like to use the application on mine. Thank you for your response.
Just relisted them: www.ebay.com/itm/284162214622
Hi. I just found this after picking one of these machines up. I saw down in the comments that you normally sell through eBay but couldn't find a listing. Any chance you've got one I could buy? Really smart setup
It's there. www.ebay.com/itm/284626990270
@@JohnHansknecht dude! Thanks so much. I can't wait to use it.
Can you link the motor and needed things. Cause I am German so I can look after something similar.
Search ebay for CS 1000 servomotor
I need help I’m planning to buy a sewing machine for my sandal diy. What China made sewing machine model is best thanks good video
@@CZcamsrkit7 check out this guy's videos. czcams.com/video/CnEiEGbwh3Y/video.htmlsi=SELDjDHWPfqJoQvd
Thanks bro love the stitches
My Walking Foot uses a DC motor 12v to 36v With a speed controul I only put 12v DC in to it . Run 5 hours of a battary. Drill battary car battary Computer 12 v DC plug eg
That's nice. In general, dc motors are quite weak in comparison to servo motors. They have low torque at low speed and torque increases with voltage and speed. Servos, on the other hand, produce their highest torque at low speed.
I would like to buy your kit. Any chance they'll be available soon?
Thanks
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Yes, I put up several every week.
Just listed them again. www.ebay.com/itm/284162214622
I bought a kit it is amazing. Mine doesn't run very smooth at 100 rpm any idea why?
Mine either. Something about the servo. 200 rpm runs good and is still slower than 1 stitch per second, so I use 200 as minimum
@@JohnHansknecht Oh good I was thinking I didn't have set up right. Good to know its jut the way it is. These kits are amazing thanks so much.
Do you still sell the kit?
Nice setup and a video. I wonder if 550W motor is not the overkill and perhaps 100W would be enough.
The way they rate these servos, they go by input power, not the actual motor output. I don't think they make a 100W servo system.
@@JohnHansknecht Thank you for answer. I actually found one on ebay that is dedicated for sewing machines: "1.0 Amps Home Sewing Machine Motor Foot Pedal Controller 110V 100W HA1 15 66 99K". Not sure if that I would call it "servo". It is a motor with speed controller and a pedal. Since the motor has 3 wires I infer this must be a brushless motor. I presume that with more power you may get better torque with lower speeds.
@@stanpak007 it might work with the right gear ratio, but DC motors produce their rated power at full speed and have low torque at low speed. A servomotor produces it's highest torque at low speed, which is where it is needed for industrial sewing.
@@JohnHansknecht Thank you. That makes perfect sense. Thanks again for the answers and the very informative video!
Do you know when you might be listing more kits on ebay? Thanks!
Just relisted them. www.ebay.com/itm/284162214622
@@JohnHansknecht I missed them :( Do you normally post more each week? Thanks
@@Country4life870 contact me directly on eBay and I will send offer for one.
Looks like your bobbin carrier rack is extending too far. I had that problem once and moved the gear rack back one tooth and been running like a well oiled machine ever since,
good luck.
Yes, I fixed that a while ago after the video was made. Thanks!
will it sew 1/4 leather for pistol holster
Absolutely!