The IDW Ninja Turtles - Dark & Tragic Origins EXPLAINED
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- In this video we take a look at and discuss the origins of the IDW comics' Ninja Turtles. It's a fascinating TMNT origin that I feel a lot of Ninja Turtles fans don't know about. If you've never heard this origin before then you're in for a ride. Let me know what you think in the comments section.
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i love how IDW blended the origins, with them being ordinary animals that were mutated with Hamato Yoshi being mutated as splinter. it was a cool way to honor both origins.
I haven't seen the Michael Bay Turtles but I heard he tried to blend this version into the Monster Turtles Origin and Messed it up
@@sonnywoods6846 they tried really hard to "copy" this. And I say "copy" quoted because I am sure they did not know about any of this beyond the 03 cartoon where April was an intern at Baxter's.
But Splinter was a rat in this too...
@@XeroLimitGaming No he wasn't he was human before he turned into a rat.
@@Salik96 nah, he was a rat in Michael’s movies
I absolutely love how Leonardo is doing his oldest brother duties all the way through, carrying his youngest brother while they run from home, despite how young he still is.
Dude, that's a brutal origin story. Hamato Yoshi's sons being beheaded by the Shredder, is by far the craziest part
I like how they changed the species outright. While they have varied species from time to time between land and land/water turtles, this is the first incarnation I can think of where they are specifically water bourne. As in they have flippers and not feet.
I feel like that was either ignorance of turtle species or "lazy" drawing.
I've always loved how, despite being perceived as kiddish and ridiculous, TMNT has some very dark origins and storylines. Maybe the biggest disparity amongst all the franchises I've seen. It's badass af.
Well the mirage turtles are the darkest.
@@Salik96 also the one where all of them except Mikey died
@@TexasRed281 Yup
I love the old comic books as well. I remember how bloody it went in their battles
Of course they are, they started as a daredevil parody.
the IDW ongoing comic is up there with the 1990 movie and the original Eastman & Laird comics. One of the best versions of the TMNT hands down. Kills me that more fans aren't into it, and seem to want to stay trapped in the '87 cartoon. Nothing wrong with enjoying the classics, but just be open to new stuff once in awhile.
Could say the same for fans who cant move beyond the 90's movies, and cant enjoy the Bay produced movies as just fun action movies. They arent going to win Oscars, but they are far from terrible.
@@Sparkykelly1 disagree. What this man has said has truth to it, but it is also true that those movies are god damn awful.
At least Batman managed to get out of that campy trend from the 60's.
@@UnrealNeoBat we were lucky Burton got a hold of the franchise when he did. Otherwise we probably would have gotten more 60's style movies. Or Joel Schumacher could have got their first and 'Batman and Robin' could have been the first entry and also the last for the caped crusader. Ouch. Batman Forever was a great movie, but Joel wanted to go the way of the 60's more and more. Can only imagine what would have come next after B&R.
No, it’s the art. It’s crap. Then they introduce garbage like SJW Jennika. Sorry, this modern version sucks. It’s not the toon we miss. It’s the art and stories of Mirage.
This was brought me to tears. This made alot of sense I terms of the blood feud that leads them to fight the shredder all these years.
They need to take these comics as inspiration for either a new tv series or a new movie series. I freaking love them so much.
I'm recently started reading the IDW comic and I FREAKING LOVE IT SO FAR. I've seen every other animated series and decided to give the comics a try and this does not disappoint it's AMAZING. I hope this comic gets a animated series someday.
You’re in for a goooood time! The side stories and one shots go in a certain order and do not disappoint! Such a great stories. Secret history of the foot is fascinating! Santolocou is amazing as an artist. Good times.
Make sure to read the side stories :) they are really important for the main story.
@@adrianacarrera3255 Oh I am 😄
Same I buy the volumes
Make sure u read the secret origins of the Foot Clan
I love IDW comics honestly. They make 4 teenage goofballs who are trained to be ninjas and eat pizza, into kickass bosses
I immediately fell in love with the IDW Turtles because I'm an old fan of TMNT since 1987. I read the old comic books as well. I've watched the cartoon series and the 1990's live action movies too. IDW is a very good blend of all those memories.
The IDW version of the turtles are my favorite alongside the '03 series and the original 1990 movie.
It encapsulates so much of the original Mirage comics with its dark tragic Origins which I really love by the way while they did something new.
I think one of my favorite things they really did well as how they wrote Casey and his tragic backstory with his dad not to mention the Bromance between him and Raphael.
I'm willing to go as far as to say that the IDW run is the absolute Definitive TMNT. The reincarnation twist on the origin is incredibly clever and doesn't feel out of place for the series. Throw in an amalgamation of nearly every incarnation of the Turtles (Mirage, 87 series, 90s movies, 2003 series, etc) and you get an incredible story with lots of laughs, plenty of action, and most importantly, Heart. The first 100 issues is absolute recommended reading for any Turtles fan, and tho the last 21 issues have been a little slow going, the direction the story is heading in has me beyond excited to see where things move on to next!
Well said!
So the Sophie Cambel Story is getting better. I was excited to read it but when I started I was confused and like where is she going with this
Ooh I haven't gotten there yet but Campbell is one of my favorite illustrators of the many that have done issues.
@@twothirdsanexplosive Campbells work is some of the best in the series alongside Mateus Santolouco's run. Every artist they've brought on have done their own unique spin on the character designs and it's been a blast seeing their interpretations leap off the page. Havent come across an artist I dont like yet
I agree
Idk how I feel about this. I mean I kinda like the idea that the turtles were originally humans. And I always liked the idea of Splinter originally being a human and turning into a rat. But the characters being reincarnated as the anthropomorphic rat and reptiles we know and love? No real explanation as to how that happened, their spirits have somehow just transferred to that of animals. That’s weird.
I mean but it fits in place with the TMNT stuff which has a variety of elements of both science fiction, mysticism and Japanese history imbued in its stories
actually soul and spirit are not totally the same thing Because there is a difference that difference is that our soul is our mind not ourselves but our spirit is ourselves and our conscience is our senses not ourselves
The IDW fase by Mateus Santolouco is my favorite tmnt thing ever. I really love his art and story. Is the perfect mix of the dark and the fun sides of the turtles.
It all fits together so well especially the part where after finding Raphael they all wear the mask colors they are known for. That 1st part def makes Shredder a real villain.
This story is also retold in the new TMNT Best Of Splinter comic that IDW just printed a few months back. Great video as always.
What a badass origin!!! Must buy. This is EXACTLY why I'm subbed. Had no friggin clue about this series before now, thanks man 🙏🙏🙏
definitely check it out, IDW has a digital comic app, really easy to get caught up
@@sukhoi25 nice
It’s my favorite incarnation of the turtles.
I been trying to get people to buy this version of the turtles for years. I don't know why no one talks about this version as much as other ones! The Ghost Buster Crossover and I think the Batman Crossover were also these versions of the turtles. (Not sure about the Batman Crossover though because the Shredder was different
I have been a life long TMNT fan, and have been with IDW since day one, and some time has passed, thanks for the refresher. I plan to re read the originals and then all IDW at somepoint
Wasn’t it revealed in a later issue that Krang was the one that transferred their memories to the turtles, so there would be someone to defeat him?
It's very original and perfect for them. I love it! It would be cool if Tang Shen was somehow reincarnated too.
I’ve heard of this storyline before, just didn’t know it was IDW, when I first heard of it, I thought this was the original. But now understood.
Love this backstory!
As a life-long fan I made my peace by accepting this version as the "one and only". Also, good as this video was (as usual), reading it in the comic hits you in a different way since it is not spoiled right at the beginning. It's a story that's building in the background as the whole story moves forward and it's surprising to say the least. I will never get tired of telling people this will forever be the best version out there, ever.
I love the IDW series. I've been reading the collections since last year. I'm currently reading Volume 9. The origin story is unique and every character is amazing.
The '87 animated series and the IDW series are definitely my favorite versions of the TMNT.
Thanks for finally talking about this. Ive been geeked about it since it started. I hope Seth Rogen uses this origin.
What an awesome idea!
I would love the IDW TMNTs to become a show or movie.
As someone who grew up with the original turtles in the early 90's, I really enjoy the IDW comics. It's a very fascinating and fresh take on their origins and gives the characters depth.
I was quite fascinated with IDW's take on turtle's origins and every volume gets me excited to see what happens next. Also if you were to do another video based on the Idw comics could you maybe talk about the beginning metal head and donnie because their story in the comics is quite interesting. 🐢🐢🐢🐢
Damn, cool origin
Hey The Old Turtle Den can you do a ranking of all 5 TMNT TV Shows ranked from worst to best please.
This one is really cool. With so many 'backgrounds' and 'resets' being done... you just get sick of it after a while. But I'll admit, this is the best background for paying homage to the original Black/White TMNT while still making it their own thing. The spiritual part actually makes perfect sense, Reincarnation is a common belief in Japan and other Eastern Countries. if u can accept Mutated Ninja Turtles then this isn't much of a stretch. Yoshi, Shen, the Mutation, even the original Red headbands... it stays VERY CLOSE to its roots while making their own TMNT Universe and its certainly badass! This one I keep with my original TMNT comics because for the beginning, its just so damn good and for all the right reasons!! The perfect blend of building off the old and making it better in many ways.
So yeah - IDW has done similar great works with other 80's franchises such as Transformers as well, most G1 already know but if you didn't, then just like this... their early runs were amazing and order the back-issues. It's worth it and then some... If you could combine this initial background with both the Grit, Drama, AND Fun of the 1990 Movie, BW series/Mirage line, with IDW making their own unique "take" on some of the more popular stories from that timeline, and then toss in the actual 2003 Animation... let's just say "Perfect Storm" and now let's fit it all together. What a great way to perfect an already awesome formula! Your not just being told Shredder is the bad guy here, after seeing such a horrific act, you automatically hate this guy and want to see him pay in blood. Further, Splinter's dynamic as their Father is much more real and tangible. He loves them no matter what they look like. Simple things that don't need to even be said but are there and tangible... now that is damn good writing!
Likewise, I hope somehow they draw off this 'spiritual' dynamic for THE LAST RONIN. I don't want Raph/Leo/Don to be imaginary. It would be great to see them grown up. This could be a believable and great way to bring them back somehow in that future timeline. I still believe there is something to Mikey's brothers being visible and heard only by him to pay off in the final issue when it comes out - I've laid it out in my comments with the biggest 5 questions that need to be solved in the last issue. This would be a great way to do it! Just something to consider. It happened before - it can happen again! Long essay here I know... its something I'm passionate about. The IDW got the personality of everyone right and explained where it came from in a believable way. (In the TMNT universe at least) This could also explain why the turtles have lost their memory and reached out to Mikey, the fluid Karai is sleeping in looks like something similar to the immortality potion Shredder used, the blood samples... three vials, maybe t's adding up to the right catalyst to reincarnation?
Could you imagine Mikey teaching his new little brothers all he's learned and being reunited? Insane Dynamite! This is leading up to what could be the best Turtles issue ever! Or... a bit of a let down. Still means I'll be there. Have been since 1984.
I think the IDW ongoing is my favorite iteration. Maybe the medium just lets me spend more time with the characters tho the action is always better animated. I'm behind on hardbound collected editions and need to get back on that.
The hardbound collections are so worth it. I had to overpay for one of the volumes since it was so hard to find, but I'm glad to be caught up currently. Eagerly awaiting volume 14!
Yeah they are really worth it. They also look great on a shelf next to each other with the different color covers.
@@twothirdsanexplosive agreed. I really like the different colored banding on each volume
We need this as an animated series
this is hands down the best story and origin of them i love this seris very much
I love how this just reinforces the 2003 to be the most canon
My favorite incarnation of the TMNT
Being a parent my eyes welled up at the part where the boys are placed in front of their father😢
I love this origin story! It brought so many tears when I read it. It's the absolute best and I've told friends and bought comics for them so that they can enjoy it as much as I have! But, there is one thing that you're missing. I don't remember in which issue or in which spinoff, but Krang came to earth after the beheading of the Hamatos and took some DNA from them. I was hoping that that was in this video. Can you confirm that and maybe add it to the video? I would love to hear what you think about it and what you understood from it. Thanks!
IDW has been a great fit for TMNT. I loved what they've done for Transformers & G.I. Joe but the work that has been done on TMNT has been for me, the best out of all of them! This by far is a great origin story, plus adding new villains like Old Hob, their versions of Hun & Bishop. It's just been a thrill to read the comics!
honestly IDW doesn't miss, the current IDW Sonic the Hedgehog comic is amazing
As someone who believes in reincarnation. I like this origin.
This is like Ultimate Spiderman but for TMMT
As in it's a celebration of all previous versions
Was Raph being attacked by the cat that carried him off, then mutating from the ooze dripping off Raph?
Yep😁
Yes
This was very informative! Please continue with the idw saga introduction for newbies!
Good video! I didnt even know about this origin story! Thank you very much!
I want a movie based off this I want dark and gory!!! Like that one fan comic of Splinter and Shredders past!!!
I'm excited for this video^^
What a great spin on a already classic origin story 10/10
I swear its a mix of 80s, 2003 and 2012 Ninja Turtles I love this
I never knew this existed! I love it! It was awesome!
I really enjoyed this comic series very good new take on the origins of the Turtles.
Great origin story. Love this channel
I always looked at it as Hameto died without honor, so he was reincarnated as a lesser being. The rat.
I like the tragic, reincarnation as its answers a question of Donatello's from Secret of the ooze; they are not a mistake. Its fate, karma, to make Saki pay for his crimes!
I do not like April owning them and naming them. April's reaction to meeting them in the 1990 movie is just too perfect. April as a news reporter makes the most sense. So does the TMNT growing up in the sewer. I think the daredevil homage, "ooze" falling off a truck, the blind guy are to integral to the existence of TMNT to be removed.
I do like Baxter working for Krang or the Utrom.. It explains how he can create something that, from a design perspective looks similar to Utrom technology. It also makes his later mutation into a fly more plausible without too many mutants running around.
Going back to the samurai stuff, I think the teens, becoming adults, after traveling to ancient feudal Japan would learn, and unlock past life memories. In that process they would gain spiritual, elemental powers to face again the dark Foot Mystics trying to once again resurrect their dark lord the demon Shredder.
As for Baxters assistant, that was originally April, I would make that Irma who reaches out to April to become a Stocktronics Whistleblower. I would have her be a young, unpaid intern closer to Donatello's age. Then they can geek out together and be "the guy in the chair" for the TMNT.
That's just my personal head canon, as I love slices of each version of TMNT pizza pie!
Wow awesome video! Is this like the 1st issue etc.
WOW! This is soooo freaking Awesome!!!! 😭👏👏👏👏👏
I miss idw comics so much .
I always wait to get the tradeback so I can read the whole story arc in one sitting.
More of this please 🐢 and enjoyed the video
Love this story hope they make a movie one day that uses some of that and just make a good grown up version of the turtles again
So freaking cool!! I love it.
Ok. This is my favorite origin for the TMNT. I have to get into the comics
First time hearing this IDW version of the TMNT
I love the tmnt idw comics and at the end of the day I like the origin they came up with and I respect it for being new and different and how it established a beef between the hamato clan and the shredder
I WAITED A YEAR OR SO FOR THIS COMIC AND I LIVED BEHIND A COMIC SHOP AND I WENT THE FIRST DAY AND THE COMIC WAS SOLD OUT I WAS SO SAD BUT A WEEK OR SO LATER I GOT THE FIRST ISSUE AND FELL IN LOVE GREAT COMIC!
Wow! I think I'll give it a try! I'm currently reading the Last Ronin
It's been a while, but I got this vibe that for many of the IDW mutants, they seemed to have a surprisingly human personality, like they were reincarnated humans.
My favorite version of the TMNT. It's the potential of the Mirage comics fully realized.
To be honest it was because of the origin of the Idw TMNT series is what drove me away from it for a time. I mean it was just too much to deal.
Tell me why I was moved to tears for the origin story. Man! That is definitely the most tragic origin story I’ve heard for my dudes.
I'm a huge turtle fan & I've never heard of this version of them before this is dark twist & here they're really the sons of Homato Yoshi who later becomes Splinter. I hope they do adapt this to a animated show & maybe a live action version this is a dark, tragic & twisted version of the turtles I see they went back & made April a lab assistant to Baxter Stickman.
Man the group in their human lives are so well designed. Even if they all wore the same color you could probably guess who is who.
I wonder if Tigerfog got his idea from the IDW for Renoir for his MNT Gaiden web comic. Renoir was a human kid but was eaten by one of Donnies experiments, by accident, and it took on the memories and personalities of the now late Renoir and is now Renoir the mutant turtle.
i can't get jiggy with the whole reincarnation thing fully, but i did like how they all wore the classic red and then eventually got their unique colors afterwards.
Completely unrelated but I personally think the best design for the turtles is the TMNT movie. On top of that I think that is the best turtles movie, it’s well paced unlike the original movie. The original is just too slow. And before anyone attacks me on the spot, I’m just saying it’s slow not saying there needs to be more action. I’m a perfectly balanced type of guy when it comes to plot and action, a good movie needs good action and plot.
I like this origin alot more then the other one out there. Feels like a movie
This version should get its own animation
I literally just got Volume 1 in the mail today I read the whole first arc and the Raphael one shot
This origin story is pretty wild and interesting, but there's one huge issue with it that irked me the whole time I was reading these issues recently: I get it how they might already be "teenaged" after mutating, and I get it how they can access their past life memories, but how can they instantly speak English and how do they instantly act like modern teens? In that sense their modern teenager personalities don't feel naturally developed and earned.
I would like it much more if they had to go through a several years acclimation period. I like it in other versions how Splinter had to raise them. I guess he did do it in the past, but back then he raised Feudal time Japanese boys instead of modern New Yorker kids.
Wow brutal, I dig it
It put me in 😢 tears 😥
In 1957 the fight on Japan is still going on with the battle between Hamato Clan and the Foot Clan has been though out centuries. And then Hamato Clan has finally defeated the Foot Clan, Hamato Yuukai found Orokus Saki as a baby boy, and then he raised him as his son, and Oroku Saki became the member of the Hamato family, especially the brother of Hamato Yoshi. In 60's to 70's these two young japanese warriors train so hard to become ninjas, but somehow they were trained as rivals and all things as brothers are, and that rival turned bitter when these two met Tang Shen lover of Hamato Yoshi, and ex-lover of Oroku Saki, and then in 1981 Yoshi and Shen are finally married, And then when Oroku Saki showed up at front of these two he got angry so he has grown jealous and his rivaly festered became hatred were he's acting so cruel at front Hamato Yoshi and say mean things about him. Hamato Yoshi realize that he could've choose to ignore him, and let his words wash over him like a river over stone, but he let him angered him. And then Oroku Saki let his own brother beat him up, then when he backs down he left Hamato Clan and never come back. In 1988 their only child was born, known as Miwa Hamato because she's a baby daughter of Hamato Yoshi and Tang Shen. So then after 5 years where Oroku Saki disappeared forever, he turned out evil as he became the Shredder and rebuild the Foot Clan, In 1989 Shredder and his gang of Foot Ninjas has engage to attack Hamato Clan, and he showed up again at front of Hamato Yoshi and tried to kill him when they're still fighting, but he did strike on his wife Tang Shen instead. So the blazing house of the Hamato family was crumble down were Shredder destroyed Hamato Yoshi's home, murdered his wife Tang Shen, and took away his only child Miwa. But Yoshi needs to hear what Shen say her last words, and her last breath at him before she died "Yoshi... Please promise me... please don't get your revenge on Saki... I love you." and Yoshi replied to her "Yes... I promised, and I love you too Tang Shen." and then after she died Yoshi cried out were he did loss his home, family, and name. But then in 1989 he was moved to New York from Tokyo, and by 1999 Hamato Yoshi was now a mid-age man who's lives in the shack near by the beach, and then he collected 4 male infant green sea turtles and keep them as pets and adoptive sons so he name them Donatello, Michelangelo, Raphael, and Leonardo. And then in 20 since after two years were he did named his pet baby turtles and adoptive sons after his favorite italian artists from the book of the Art of the Italian Renaissance, Yoshi manage to fight one of the Foot Ninjas a truck drive drove straigh and turned so the canister of mutagen fro the TCRI just slipped out and crash and shattered, until when Yoshi was still fighting Foot Ninjas he accidently dropped the class bowl of 4 baby turtles until then it too was shattered so these are crawling slowy towards to the puddle of glowing green ooze from from the broken canister near by, and then after when Yoshi was helped by Hideaki Sato Daniel Gordon in the fight, the Foot Ninjas retreat so he met Hideaki and his family his daughter Elizabeth, and his wife Roxanne. So after when Hideaki and his family thank him the just left him, and then Yoshi turned around fast saw what happened to his pet baby turtles are already walked into the puddle of mutagen and covered by green ooze, so he pick them up take 'em to the shack at the beach, and then wiping 'em down with a towel, but then suddenly he's got mutagen ooze on his hands and shirt, so when he went to the bathroom and wash his hands, and he also taking his shirt off and toss it in the basket, so then he was his face. And so now he looked himself at the mirror though what happen next is he saw wiskers grow from his upper lips even a rat at the above bathroom wardrobe near by was looking at Hamato Yoshi was looked himself in the mirror and when he's exposed from mutagen, his face got stretch, his ears changing into rat hears, his skin grows fur, got a rat tail growing from his body rear, and got rat teeth from his upper mouth, and got his nails grow sharppen into rat claws were he got mutated into a human-born rat. And then he looked himslf at the mirror again, and see what had become something... different. But he's not the only one, when he got out of the bathroom he saw his pet baby turtles got mutated the same way, as they are doubled in size into animal-born mutant turtles, but they're still toddlers, even they're almost like part human, but they had had three fingers on each hands, two toes on both feet, and also they're boldy, and the also they had shells like a turtle. So after they left the shack from the beach, they'd decided to moved to the New York Sewers to be kept hidden in secret. And so now the New York Sewer is new home, when these turtles are 7 years old they watched Splinter was showing his four adoptive sons his fighting skills with his sword were he learned ninjisu because he lead the training, and when it's Leo's turn he can show his brothers and his adoptive father and mentor his fighting skills with the sword also known as Katana, and when it's Mikey's turn he can show skillful he is with Nunchucks, and it's Donnie's turn he can how skilled with the staff also known as Bō, and then Raph's turn will be last as he can show how skillfull he is with the pare of Sais. and now in the year 2016 before 2017 were the turtles are now 14 or 15 are getting masks or bandanas which Leonardo gets the blue mask, Raphael get the red mask, Donatello gets the purple mask, and Michelangelo gets the orange mask, and now the weapons like Shuriken for the four of them, with Nunchucks for the pizza lover Mikey, Bō for the genius one Donnie, the twin Sai for the hothead Raph, and twin Katana for the leader Leonardo and finally they have became the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
I want this series as a live action Paramount + show!!!
I love with this origin you can understand to some extent why splinter and the turtles where all so smart from there very beginnings.
This story was hardcore!!!
The IDW comics are excellent I would recommend them to any TMNT fan
This would def make for a GREAT anime
I really love the IDW series.
Its such a great story.
This would make as a dope asf animated series
I hope the new movie incorporates some aspects of this.
I love the art style it suits this origin has that traditional painted look in some panels...
In the words of one turtle
COWABUNGAAAA!!!
That's sad. Interesting
I love this origin...now for Yoshi to keep his promise regarding Saki
I would love to see an Adaptation of the idw comic it'd be perfect for the Next Live Action TMNT reboot
If there were an anime/manga style adaption for the IDW series where it was completely faithful to the source material, I think this iteration of the turtles would definitely be hailed as the greatest era.
I agree this is a great origin story.
More IDW turtles content please!
I personally hate this origin story version but mainly because I grew up with the original story from the 80s comics I can appreciate what they did in reimagining the origin story for a new generation but growing up with the original myself just seems off for me to accept anything different maybe if we didn’t live in a society that feels they have to reimagine or reboot nearly everything that’s been done before maybe if it wasn’t constantly happening it’s possible it’d be easier for me to accept because it isn’t a bad story it’s actually really good I just can’t accept it as a true tmnt origin story personally
I wish they would adapt this version into an Animation too. Origin of the foot clan, the battle in Dimension X with Krang The have stories for years
Please tell us more about these comics
2:51 That not to seek vengeance..... IT WAS A BAD IDEA