Pianos are Never Animated Correctly... (SING)
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2022
- Here I played what was actually played in the piano animation from SING where Johnny plays and sing "I'm still standing".
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Scott Joplin piano duel secene? (Even though its live action, it looks like not accurate)
The animation is wrong but the music right 😏
Ikr
thanks!!
Umm okay open a 3d animation software and try to animate stuff you will find out that you can so you will have to work your butt off to learn it for several years and only then you will discover that the small things that you are talking about are not so important as long as it looks nice they dont have to perfect it its a damn animated movie man😑😑
This is literally a musical based movie how could they not animate it right
It's an illumination movie, were you really expecting quality?
because it dosent matter and it would just be a waste of time for the animators
@@Matzu-Music this makes me worry for the next super mario bros movie.
@@gab_v250 good one
making it accurate takes extra work so it’s faster just to animate it like that. nobody really understands how long it takes to make animation but also this is illumination, they’re known for their quality sometimes.
As a 3D animator who animated characters playing piano, I can say that it's absolutely common that the character doesn't play the song correctly. Animation is thought to be appealing at camera, and depending on the camera angle, if he played the song as it is, maybe the arms and hands wouldn't be composition wise correct. It's animated following the song beats so it seems like he's playing it, it's not like the animator doesn't give a s**t haha
to be honest, thanks for giving the actual explanation, but i would also 100% accept "the animator doesnt give a shit". Its a song played by a gorilla for gods sake
Any proof for that?
@@davidardelean2832 proof for what?
@@davidardelean2832 wdym by proof lmao
Exactly! How the composition looks is more important than if the keys are right. It's an animated movie not a tutorial.
I understand that it’s usually the right decision to animate pianos incorrectly but it’s fun to hear what the animation actually sounds like
Finally someone who gets it. Too many whiny animators in this comment section.
yeah reading this comments from mad animators just gives me "uHm AkTuaLLy" vibes
Exactly, love the fact so many animators come in self righteous lol.
It’s not like the toddlers watching it can tell the difference anyway
@@ezentsy3329 the nerd emoji
Animation isn’t often about realism (though there is an appeal to realism too!), it’s about what looks artistically best to the camera. The animators are given a thumbnail/storyboard to catch the feel of, and if they moved the camera to show the right hand playing the Correct notes in one of the early shots, the feeling of the shot and camera angle would have changed. It’s about art, not correct hand placement - though I do love these videos a lot!
Tom from Tom and
Jerry the cat concerto is accurate and that was made in 1947
@@Marklennon with a static camera angle, which allowed for full accuracy without compromising the artistic vision for it. If you can animate someone playing an instrument you Can animate them playing it correctly with very little issue, but if it gets in the way of the presentation, then it’s not worth it just for the perfectionists instead of the general audience who wouldn’t appreciate it. Simple as that
@@Marklennon but it wasn't, just because he was hitting every 5th note correctly or something doesn't make it accurate, it makes it precise. If anything this is more accurate than Tom and Jerry piano episode ever was
I am *a pianist, the notes Tom plays are the correct. There’s a reason this animation didn’t win both an Oscar and an Academy Award.
@@Marklennon oh I’m not disagreeing with the fact that it’s accurate! I’m just pointing out that accuracy wouldn’t work for this scene, nor is it important
Compared to other songs that weren’t animated “correctly”. This one actually sounds somewhat close to the actual version
Fr I was expecting something completely different
It sounded a bit like I was listening to the exact same thing but in 380p
Lowkey slaps ngl
@@mayarules same
i think this video was for how he played it not how it sounded
To be fair the fingers are really big. I'd imagine they were avoiding clipping with the keys.
tbh I think the same yeah.
@@DaMzHn do you not know what it’s like to be an animator
@@DaMzHn unless you're in the business you can't tell them "what" to do
they could've made the piano bigger no problem.
in a world where gorillas play piano they could’ve made a bigger piano 🤦♂️
Actually the way they animated it is a great compromise between making it believable (in the sound, when the chrods go higher or lower, it's similar in the image), but also they animated it so it would look cool from their camera angles so I think they did a pretty good job 😊
Underrated comment
Not animating in 60fps is what hurts the realism the most...
@@ncard00That's most 3D films though. 24 fps is the usual count.
Its like the Neil deGrasse Tyson pointing out the inaccurate placement of stars in the night sky of the Titanic tragedy in the movie
While nearly every piano is animated incorrectly, we can't forget that one Tom and Jerry episode in which the piano is actually animated fully correctly. The time and effort put into that bit is certainly appreciated!!
Indeed
it even got an Oscar
@@alexk-jr6ps that's true! A much deserved one!
It's easier to animated 2d then 3d when it comes to things like music. Take example guitar playing. This would probably have the same result.
@@yourmicrowave7112 you're correct about that, yes. 3d animation takes a lot more time and effort, but a lot of effort was still put into the episode regardless! All animators are appreciated for their hard work! (I'm also a small animator haha)
usually music-focused movies don't disappoint, but man, come on!
Well don’t expect accuracy and precision in Illumination Movies.
For a movie made for kids...
@@darkphoenix2745 that’s like saying loony toons is for furries
@@darkphoenix2745 you didn't even spell it right lmfao
@Tumcan Zimri hey if smaller shows can do it why can’t million dollar budget movies do it
0:13 man played the most anti-climatic thing ever heard on youtube other than an ostrich screaming
As someone with nearly 12 years of musical experience under my belt, it just has to look right, it doesnt have to _be_ right. Just like how when you are playing specific piece, it doesn't have to _be_ right it just has to _sound_ right. And this accomplishes that pretty well I'd say. Without stopping and going frame by frame, there pretty much is no way you'd know it was wrong unless you are both an expert pianist and you have perfect pitch, and even then it's probably not on screen long enough or shown at the right angle to catch any of that, especially not on your first viewing.
This one is so disappointing especially considering it’s such a musically based movie 😕
@@colincst they are animators not musicians
@@RichardSoup but why
it's an illumination movie, of course they aren't gonna care
@@RichardSoup it still doesn't shanked if your atleast gonna make it music based, make it correct
@@RichardSoup That doesn't justify. Since music is such a big part of the movie, and the studio is fucking rich they could've just looked at the sheet music or have someone musically experienced to make it right. Just look at Soul's animation, it's spot on, because the movie is heavily focused on music.
As someone who works in animation, it’s about composition, staging, and what works best for the camera angle. A rule in the art world is that you don’t need to draw what’s there, you need to draw what’s believable 🤷🏿♀️
Ok now lets talk to ur boss, jk
Oh ok
I thought animation is creating what you don’t have
What about that old Tom & Jerry piano episode? Tom was literally playing correctly and it was a fully animated piano, it had the best angles it could have, and it was fantastic, it even got an Oscar. Whether is it appealing or not to the camera angles, Illumination should've putted some more effort on making that scene a bit more believable, nonetheless of that sole fact that 3D animation is tougher than 2D animation, you can still put some effort on making it realistic enough knowing very well this is a goddamn musical animated movie.
@@RzK_venger795 I mean unless your paying attention to the keys or you play piano the average person isn’t gonna notice.
As a pianist who did take some animation classes in college-if it looks right, it is right. Same for music... If it sounds right, it is right
Animation is all about the illusion
Nah animators are not music majors so why would they care right?
Soul would like to have a word with you.
@@olivercharles2930extra effort
That's very true! Animation is at it's core, a story being told. If some little details are off that no one will notice but would take a long time- leave the details out!
You are so good at this!
The actual song that was played doesn’t sound that bad honestly, the animators could’ve stuck to that one without any issues.
YO! FINALLY FOUND YOUUUU
Seriously? Again?
Hi
Man, u just have a very poor sense in music, that sounds awful, but yeah try playing some music on your own then you will get it
@@sebastianmaya5029 i think it’s actually pretty catchy,so is that song the elephant sang
It is my opinion tho
What he actually played would make a killer final boss theme (in a horror game at least)
I don't think it would even have to be a horror game picture hearing that in like Terraria or another game I can't think of one rn
Bruh
i think it could be good for a boss fight in an rpg game
*Why do I hear boss music?*
I think it would be good for a cup head boss
Appreciate your videos and your piano skills
Cutting corners is common practice, few will ever appreciate the amount of details and effort some put into their works.
However, those who do go the extra mile deserve some respect for trying with all their heart, because often those who go the mile will be the ones to find the most success. Passion is required in order to put every mile into a work, and those with passion will give out the best works more often than not.
I don’t think these people understand how hard it is to animate a piano correctly
I think people do and just like to joke “this is what he actually played lol *ding ding doink derp doop* “
this, and to top it off this is ~90% accurate lol
people should really stop complaining that piano isn't animated correctly. animation is about making something that looks good for the audience not always creating realistic content. (coming from a musician)
No harder than to animate it wrong.
what? the hand is moving on one axis how hard is it to have the fingers/hand on a different spot?
oh yea you said piano. How hard is it to have different keys pressed down?
all things aside, its harder to animate a character PLUS its their fking job lmao why are you thinking up excuses for them
I’m impressed with the fact that he was able to tell which keys were being played
He wasn't, he's just bullshitting for views
Even when it wasn't shown
Right? Very impressive.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too.
right like I’ve been playing instruments including piano since I was like 5 and i know damn well I wouldn’t be able to do that😭
Wow you have lots of talent
Psych : today I m gunna learn how to play piano through an animation
Ikr, like it's a film, not a piano lesson
But, what If this is actually right in a world where the society is based on animals?
Piano would sound different because it was contructed to other type of hands.
Bri'ish @@kurtsudheim825
love how animators are standing their ground and showing interesting insight on this
Because some numb skull complained about the smallest issue. In in no way creative, never going to work in animation or any of the arts (I did get & learn piano, was very good at playing, good muscle memory, finger movement, but was never going to create my own stuff or anything close). It's a kids film, the exact finger placement doesn't matter that much. Look how bad the sort looks in most sports films
I think that it's obnoxious.
@@kurtsudheim825 To be fair, I’m not sure the person who made this video actually cares if its correct or not. It’s interesting enough to point out and this channel has other videos showing that movies everybody loves (like Coraline) are also inaccurate. Its mostly the people in the comments that are saying that its a mark of poor quality, even though they probably wouldn’t apply that same logic to other animations they like that do the same thing. People just hate Illumination, and I’m not the biggest fan either, but I think we should be fair in our criticisms.
@@kurtsudheim825 no one complained, people just got overly defensive over the littlest thing
I wouldn't call what they're sharing insight, but they certainly are standing their ground in the comments here
Honestly surprised how close it was to the OG, usually when their animated wrong, its extremely off, but here, it sounds like they at least tried to get it accurate
They got the basic rhythm right, but just had the hands off, probably to get the more dramatic angle visually.
Well, at least someone finally mentioned it!
@@jennyblake5868 fr, its not bad its just off physically by a few keys, still not a fan of the movie but eh
It's not off by that much and I think it may have been an executive/visual decision as his hands are quite dark and would have contrasted poorly against the black key, also it'd be less of a dramatic angle.
@@Benjamin1986980 its to prevent clipping in the animation
Thank u makes very much sense!
love these content
Im now curious if the piano in mr peabody and sherman is animated correctly, including the other instruments he played
ooo... probably not, let's find out!
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Smartest dog in the world CAN HE PLAY THE PIANO
@@FoxDog1080 Not just the piano... MANY more instruments that i didn't even know the name of...
If it’s illumination, it definitely isn’t. They’re the most lazy of the major animation studios as they literally only care about profit, not writing decent stories or making works of art.
Guys just keep in mind that they are trying to capture the expressions of the character, the actions of his hands, and leave enough room for the stage lights in the background all while staying true to perspective. If his hand were to move any further, they would have to back the "camera" up to include everything, thus messing up the whole composition and making it look awkward and unnatural. This shot alone has so many elements that animators need to account for and there's just no way they could make everything true to life. In the end, they made the right decision to cut least important one as not to disrupt the essence of the scene. Hardly anyone will notice that the keys don't perfectly match the notes, but EVERYONE will notice if the perspective is warped. So just lend them a little leeway, animation is hard.
I weirdly appreciate the people being passionate about the piano keys thing, particularily if they are acquainted with playing music themselves (I feel like as artisans of thr craft it makes sense for them to feel that way too, y'know?) but I also love that the animators did their best to keep as close to the original as they could while primarily focusing on conveying this scene in the most dramatic and emotional way possible. It's just one of those fascinating insights and thought-descisions that really bring out the magic of the illusion they work hard to bring together. I find it really interesting
Thank youuuuu. I agree with you, plus we can’t say if the character is playing literally at the end of the piano, I think isn’t incorrect, is just the perspective.
The real song the hands are slightly closer together.
the movie sing ain't gonna fuck you bro
False ,the grumpy it not right people notice...hence this whole yt video
This is so cool! How have I never seem you before
This is why I absolutely love the Disney movie Soul. The Pixar animators took the time to make sure everything was right, including the piano, no matter how difficult it was (saw a whole documentary behind the film and the piano was by far the hardest part to get right, there was hundreds of rigging points just to move a single hand)
Exactly, I was about to use this as an example. But really, how many people noticed that during the movie, it’s a lot of attentive work for very little rewards
Take it from somebody who went to school for animation and does modeling. This isn’t about playing the right notes, it’s about giving interesting angles. A lot of decisions are made to either look more appealing to the camera angle or maybe the correct way would’ve hidden something entirely from the cameras view. Animation isn’t about being realistic a lot of the time, it’s about exaggeration
Take it from someone with the same background: I recognize that the council has made a decision, but given that it's a stupid ass decision, I've elected to ignore it.
@@agchains78543 That movie will always be goated
It's just a joke kiddo calm dowm
@@Terratetradon where is the funny?
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since a lot of comments dont understand why this happens:
Animators have to follow the storyboard, so that it doesnt ruin the composition that the director has already planned for during that stage. Especially in a shot like this, where perspective plays a very big role, if the hand is dragged too far away from the camera, it will ruin the initial composition, and will make the shot looks too complex and awkward. So it's the director's decision to either be realistic, or focus on visual composition. There's no right or wrong answer.
But this not always the case. Like the Gru's shot. I doubt following the actual notes will destroy composition. Other than saving animating time, they might be facing technical issues like the pose might be impossible for Gru's proportion to do, or the cloth simulation could go wonky if Gru's doing certain stuff. We never know.
ty, the majority of comments on both this video (and others similar to it) just needlessly-shit on the animators for in-the-name of realism, wo ever taking time to consider just how complex and tricky animation is. at the end-of-the day, animation is an artform used as a vehicle for storytelling and artistic-expression, and animators shouldnt have to compromise their work for the sake of realism. there are many pieces-of-media that *do* go out of their way to animate instruments correctly (likely at-the-expense of lots of time, money and energy) and we should be spending-time celebrating those works, as-opposed to tearing-down others over smn as nit-picky as this (not to say this is what the creators of these videos are inherently doing, but rather the people in the comments)
Honestly, as an animator in training, thank you for standing up for the little guy 👍 because looking at the work environment, animators do not get the credit they deserve.
Someone else brought up that the fingers of the gorilla’s model may be too big to accurately animate them without clipping or phasing through the piano keys, which would make it double difficult
@@_kaleido could be. But through my experience, from this angle we could easily cheat it a little bit so the clipping wont show on camera. But I wont deny that this could be valid. We can only see the problem when we work on that shot.
@@_kaleido Honestly, I think the problem might've actually been the shoulders/armpits. Considering Johnny has exceptionally broad shoulders for a standard size piano moving them too far in or out can easily cause issues or simply his shoulders would make the playing in the proper spot look really cramped, like elbows tucked into the ribs to get both hands in the right spot on the piano.
On the other hand, I don't think his fingers clipping into the keys would be too much of an issue, but his hands and fingers being proportionally longer, and his thumb seeming to be proportionally shorter may cause some issues with how they are supposed to be used on a human hand.
So more they opted to make the character appearing to play properly, rather than the instrument being played in the right spot. Could very well be a combination of both as well. Still considering he's roughly playing the same piece from his end is better than the random slamming and finger wiggling that somehow comes out a concerto.
Edit: Just looked up some images of Johnny, if you see the still during Sing 2's dance practice, at one point he has his palm up and fingers relatively straight, his thumb doesn't even make it to the base knuckle, where a human's thumb makes to almost the first knuckle out. This alone makes it impossible to for him to use his thumbs properly to play while angling his forearms towards his sternum, which would be required to keep his elbows off his ribs and get his hands into the proper keys. To get his thumbs where they need to be, he would basically have to chicken wing his wrists, which I highly doubt you could find a pianist that could actually play like that.
I think ppl are expecting animators to be musical geniuses too
Honestly, this is a lot closer than a lot of these I've seen.
I’m pretty sure the reason for the improper animation is to make the close up camera shot look more dynamic, it looks cooler when the hands are further apart and you can see the closer end of the piano.
They could easily fix this to look cool, or modify the musical arrangement to let the hand on the same octava
@@bensilicate They could but get this... its a child's movie made for little kids, why would the animation studio go that far in to detail for no reason, I honestly doubt the studio was worrying about a bunch of middle aged dudes coming together in a youtube comment section to complain about the actuality of how a piano is actually played.
@@bensilicate it really doesn't matter
it's Illumination
it won't be notice for those who don't play the instrument
this isn't Pixar movies man
@@monkeyeknom527 Its not a childs movie. Being animated doesn't make it for children. It would bomb as a childrens movie, its no where near appealing enough for children.
@@Wylie288 Bro just stfu, it is literally a child's movie and that is just a fact.
Cool. The actual audio sounded pretty interesting, though. I mean it still sounded weird, but I can see it being the start of a longer song that got a lot more normal after that part while still calling back to it every now-and-then.
The song played is supposed to be "i'm still standing" sung by Elton John
This is SO much better than some of the ones I've seen, even live action ones...
Nice job
I remember changing the lyrics of this song when i was young to
"Immmmm Stillll Drivvinnngg , after all this wine, picking up the pices of the glass with out you on my mind"
I was like 10 at the time lmao
but sing 2 didnt come out long ago :*D
@@ItsStarberryy
the original song came out way before sing did
@@ostrich696 it did?? I definitely knew that 😅
@@darkphoenix2745 i knew dat but didnt know song came out before sing 1
I'm Still Standing, by Elton John. Came out in the 80's.
I remember when people were saying that there was no way that piano would still work properly after having been submerged in water, I guess this is the answer to that, johnny just had to transpose a bit
Wait actually that makes sense
@@Leviathan-mj8gi In the movie the whole theatre floods completely so yeah I'd say it was pretty submerged
@@Leviathan-mj8gi yeah I assume the flooding would be worse than the heavy rain
Hahaha ! Clever
@@Leviathan-mj8gi
The way it goes in the movie is that due to the stage made with window glass to make a massive tank for glowing squids to preform with the acts on stage. The glass ends up taking a very hard blunt hit and cracks then brakes and the theater begins filling up completely with water, one of the characters gets stuck in one of the only ground floor level means for the water to easily rush out until the framing of that opening brakes along with all of the locked doors in front sending out the water and everyone present at that time. This also causes the theater to colapse on itself, it was falling apart and need of repair before this but this destroyed beyond general repair.
The movie, and the second one, are both good movies imo, they're by no means perfect but they are wholesome while also exciting at the same time.
How I think I sound playing piano vs how I actually sound playing piano:
Same.
I love how it still forms a fairly coherent song lmao
I would honestly pay to watch a gorilla gently play off-key.
Frr
u just did
yuh
It’s surprising how accurate it is when you look closer. They definitely did the extra mile there😁
That's probably what's most respectable about this, half the comments are like "it's a music movie how could they do this 😢" but if you pay attention for a second you'll see that not only did they get the rhythm spot on but they also got positioning far closer to what it's supposed to be than every other show that didn't get the notes right. All of this points to it being very likely that they 100% did this intentionally, they fully well knew how the song was meant to be played and maybe they even animated it accordingly originally but later in the making progress they just decided to change the position of the hands in order to better fit the camera angles that the director wanted. People be acting like this is just another case of animators "not bothering with the details" and while I think that in itself isn't as big a problem as people are making it out to be I also think that it's not even the case here
The Observation is pretty insane🔥
It's close enough that non musicians may not be able to spot it
But it is also the reason why tom and jerry is superior
@@shinobix4925 It's also impressive given Johnny's anatomy-they gave the animals more animal like proportions, meaning Johnny's thumb is shorter than that of a human and he couldn't play the song "correctly" without chicken winging his arms (which would look awkward). Keeping all of that in mind, it's impressive how close they were able to get it even with those limitations.
D o n t r e a d m y c h a n n e l
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Your awesome at playing piano
I luv this song!
Impressive that you can see what notes he is playing with that camera angle and that distance.
Honestly this one was actually closer than most. I’ll give them that.
such talent
close enough. Thanks and good night !
I loved this video! 😁 Nice way of fixing the positions! The only series I watched that was animated correctly in hands when playing musical instruments was Your Lie in April, and it's one of my favorites, highly recommended ❤
Kids on the slope also does a really good job of animating instruments correctly
@@genoblue7996 i think kids on the slope was rotoscoped
I believe your lie in April had actual musicians playing and they recorded that performance to use as reference for the animation, which is why it’s so accurate :)
one of the most beautiful series I've ever seen, so touching
But be careful, I was depressed for three days cuz of that anime LMAO
Truly depends on the animator’s software and it’s capacity. Unless they have high level software, the process usually involves the programing of each movement the fingers make. An incredibly tedious process combined with pressure from the studio about deadlines. Its probably easier for them to just make it match the pace of the music.
yep ^
I heard the Animation of Thomas playing Piano in Tom and Jerry is Animated accurately!! Is that true?
@@priyanshagrl1721 that episode even got an Oscar for its accuracy
And it's heck alot of hard to accurately animate
Finally somebody who has a 100% operating brain.
As someone uneployed who criticizes animators, i can say this is truly an animation moment of all time
Ah yes, "uneployed". I hear the government is trying to minimize uneployement this year.
You're a fckn legend mate 😂👏🏽
Jokes aside, Taron did a heck of a job singing Elton's song in Sing. Possibly better than the original, but that's my opinion. There's just something about combining trumpets and piano for me..
I agree tarons version is much superior it just sounds so powerful.
I get that this is the trend now, but people really don't seem to understand how hard animating music, even incorrectly, is. Heck, live-action, OFFICIAL music videos don't always get it right.
It's not as big a deal in non-musicals, but SING is a movie about music, and they were already animating the piano. With a budget as big as SING, they could and should have done better.
@@BTBHSOHBOY While I do get your point about big budget musicals, I'm also going to point out that "they were already animating the piano" is kind of placing the blame on the animators. The animators' job was to make the scene look cinematic, not accurate.
@@cameronsitton501 yeah making it cinematic is much more important than making it accurate to the notation. I guess ideally you'd do both, but you're adding extra effort just to appease musicians and people who watch these types of videos lol
@@sdw-hv5ko I don’t think it’s worth it just to please people for such a small thing, you can still love a project without making it overly accurate. I want to animate a violin but I don’t think I’d go out of my way to learn to play the instrument just to do it. Animation is fun up until people ruin it because if doesn’t please them.
@@BTBHSOHBOY for who might i ask oscar?
Impressive how this video got 11 million views! Great job! :D
You should watch "Soul". They nailed the piano animation.
Your lie in April too
What I'm taking from this is that the animation was super close to reality. As it least one person has commented below, the animation is also dictated by what looks right. I think it's impressive they managed to make a gorilla look good playing the piano and have it be almost right.
Indeed. Unlike many other examples on this channel, this one actually sounds very similar to the real thing. Just that the hands aren't in the right placements.
Its a film, what’s important is the story. and if the hand movement is close enough then its fine.
Can you do sent from above next
The people who made Sing did a fairly accurate playing of that song.
i'm suprised that the original actually sounded a little bit like the actual song
@DON'T SILENCE!
@DON'T im ur dad
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Hold up... At 0:19 you can see that there is a black key that isn't being pressed in the middle, but you played it with it pressed.
Yeah also I’m pretty sure he doesn’t press a C at the start it’s clearly a G, but idk if it really change the outcome
@@kisho51 No, he plays a C at the start, it just looks like that because of the shadow from the black key. You can also see G not too far right from his left hand
@@SeizeUrSalad right that's why, it was still super wrong with the G anyway so yep
Looks like he is playing a# and f, which are the same notes that should be played...
Edit: Sorry there should be no f in that chord. But if he were to play A# and F# it would be the correct notes (which could be possible, it's really hard to see)
Maybe his piano is tuned differently to a human piano.
I got a simply piano ad while watching this… WHAT
I’ll never look at that scene the same way again 😂😂
This one totally makes sense to do wrong, now that I see it. His hand moving barely halfway up the keys would be much less dramatic
Can we just appreciate how good this guy is at playing the wrong and good versions
I didn't expect a musical ending to be animated wrong like this 😭
😂 I love these videos
I still find it amazing that 'the cat concerto' episode from Tom&Jerry is one of the few animated things in existence to properly animate the piano movements he makes.
I don’t think people are understanding how long a scene like this takes to make. Sure, they could’ve animated it right, but I’m not going to be expecting a professional animator to also be skilled at reading sheet music. At least it’s on the right area of the piano! No one is paying attention to notes unless it’s for a video like this- in which it’s for fun. It takes wayyyy too long to make it accurate- and although it would be super cool if it were- it’s incredibly impractical.
I play piano and animate (neither professionally though) and I can say that I wouldn’t have made it match properly either because no child cares enough to pause it and study and compare each note with it’s real note, and that’s the target audience. It just isn’t made for composers.
as long as it’s convincing then no need to worry about revising animations for another three months for this one scene.
*I like this video though* (just not the comments that are whining about something that they don’t know about)… just a lil pretentious lesson for you.
People are whining just because is Illumination, if it was with other studios like Dreamworks or Disney, they would 1: Accept it but not care about it, or 2: Try an excuse it.
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@@oliverafton1444 for real, there's many other videos of pianos being absolutely botched in other shows that aren't receiving this much hate, at least this one kept a similar general rhythm and progression
@@MightyMewtron That's true
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Actually, if it were Disney or Dreamworks, there'd be even more scrutiny, since at least here, it's an Illumination film, so cheap quality is expected, but with those two, quality is and has been expected for decades.
People would notice if Disney or Dreamworks screwed up.
Animators holding their ground for real!
Do another one from Sing where Johnny plays All Of Me.
What I'm gathering from most of these videos is that most of the time the animation is still fairly close in terms of movement ! What this tells me is that it being off is very much probably a matter of animation flowing better visually, especially considering 99% of people won't notice the difference without pausing or rewatching !
What he actually played would make a good horror soundtrack
wow, out of allthe movies i really expected this one to be animated correctly
I got a simply piano ad before this
And yet his father was still so proud of him, true father right there
Just ignore the whole "forcing my son to commit crimes" part
they should just hire him for anytime there's a piano seems like he's super good at it
Nobody:
Me: gets an ad before the video starts on simply piano
i wish some day you also make.. those Acting DJ actually sound like video too. will be cool.
Man, I didn't notice until now. I liked this movie but why did they animate the piano incorrectly
probably because the animators were lazy and didn't want to go through the extra effort to do it right???
@@balcuv or maybe be ause animation is hard
@@balcuv eeehhh I wouldn’t blame the animators. Illumination’s known for being a very cheap animation studio, they probably didn’t have the time to animate they keys correctly
Like you said, you didnt notice and 95% of the rest of people didnt either, so it doesnt matter, are we gonna bash every action movie ever for faking a fight even though it looks believable in the end product? Thats the point of movies
@@sgt.cupcakes8423 fr, i understand some got upset because it's a musician-related movie but come on :/, it's just only 10 seconds of animation out of more than 1 hour of work; It's not like a lot of people were gonna call the animators lazy because they were playing the wrong keys of an instrument until now.
Have you done anything based on the anime “Your Lie In April?” Based on just a cursory glance, it seems to be a rather accurate animation when it comes to the piano playing. I’m curious if it’s actually accurate.
I was about to comment this. The anime is so good and I truly think that the animation is accurate 👍
they have.... and it is indeed accurate czcams.com/video/XH4vvy2xdsM/video.html
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bandori too! never looked too closely, but i’m pretty sure most of the instruments are animated accurately
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They were soooooooo close!!! That was just an honest mistake-type animation error. They actually did attempt to animate it right!
i love johnny
This probably sounds rude but
Who cares if it’s not animated correctly. It’s hard to animate. They animated it to the best of their ability
That’s what I’m saying it doesn’t matter it’s sounds great to me and it’s perfectly fine
It doesn’t matter. Personally I know as a musician I tend to try and look for flaws in violin/viola playing because it’s ridiculous how wrong it can be sometimes. (Watch any Chinese film that’s about a music school, it’s hilarious…. Or watch two set violin react to it)
It’s not rude, you’re speaking the truth. Why should animators be expected to perfectly animate an instrument they don’t even know how to play?
They clearly didnt. If you think they couldnt do a better Job then you are wrong
You guys, sometimes it looks a lot better when it’s animated a bit off. So it would look more fresh and smooth.
Also it’s not like any of you noticed 😂 or felt disturbed while watching the scene.
Oh I noticed…but was I disturbed? Not really, just laughed when I caught it
The animation was a lot closer to what it actually was than a lot of other movies.
That dam close
The "What he actually played" was pretty good
this is such a cool concept! plz do more of these
he did like 100 of these already lmao
forgive me if this is a joke but maybe check out the 500 videos he already did in this format
he made 65 videos of "pianos are never animated correctly" in one month 💀
I still think just animating his finger touching the keys the way they do is enough to convince people that they at least cared enough to try.
Strong playing of the Law.
I love these breakdowns of animators not being perfect at reflecting real-life work.
alternatively, being an animator myself, I know why they picked those notes, and it's all for the petty reason of composition of the shot. I bet whoever did knew they were the wrong notes but had to push it anyways.
The amount of crap we are faced with 'This is literally or physically wrong, but we're doing it anyways because we are just a cheap copy of real life' is so alarming that catching piano errors is just the tip of the iceberg.
right. these ppl are so annoying lol, we get ur professional pianists or whatever but like fr nobody gaf, you have no idea what animating takes. coming from an actress lol
i mean the person in the video also played the wrong notes for "what was actually playing"
like the fingers clearly don't even match the gorilla at 0:19
this video shouldn't be a platform where ppl talk about this stuff because it was wrong to begin with.
Big sadge. I wish big animation studios allowed animators to express themselves fully and unleash their potential.
These movies look great. But I am sure many animators would have made it more interesting/detailed if they were allowed more freedom and time.
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"fr these animators are so dumb. They can't even try to animate things correctly. God, they are so ignorant and lazy about music yet they wanna sell us the fact that they are hard workers. Lol no one cares. Coming from a singer"
That is what you sound like.
Yes, the people saying animators suck/lazy are super misinformed. But your comment is just as ill-intentioned.
The person you were replying to did not even share your superficial sentiments, he has a nuanced perspective about why little details like realistic piano keys are almost never implemented. Many animators couldn't change the scene even if they knew they could animate right/better and wanted to do a better composition. What the story boarder plans is what goes, and if the animation director doesn't care about such a detail then that's that.
Not to mention that realism a stylistic choice anyway, animation need not adhere to such a thing.
But like, who is actually going "yeah no we need the hand to be 3 inches to the right or the shot is ruined"?
Are you _sure_ this was a conscious decision and not just someone mistaking A# for D#?
It really isn’t about complete accuracy when it comes to movies.
Even one clean outline (without any colors or clean line art) for 1 minute takes 4 hours to skribble. It‘s extremely difficult and most animators sit days on one little scene and it still looks alright in my opinion.
And the hands could look so much less appealing. You have to think about what LOOKS the best on screen, because everything has to be adjusted for the medium it is shown in.
Like you have to write a book differently than a screenplay, because the one is visually and the other one has to awake the emotions through imagination.
There are also so many movies where the characters are played by actors, where many moves are just wrong. Cars wouldn’t explode like it‘s shown and you can‘t brake someone else’s neck, like they show it on screen, but it looks better and so on is the better choice for the medium it‘s set in.
perfectly put!
Why did I read everything 😕
This is computer animation, not the same as hand drawn. It’s all made in the software..characters, objects, whole towns..set the physics and let it rip..truly amazing fun, really hard to master, but the piano keys should honestly be the easier part of the whole production..they were slack
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Still filmstudios make a hand drawn scratch most of the time with a few hundred pictures to decide what to put in a scene etc.
And to program a character, you need a few character designs, probably hand drawn, to know where it has to go, when you animate them (like typical face-expressions etc.).
Still I get the point, that it probably is another process to animate it then when drawn by hand, so this scene itself could have been doable in the right way. (I hope my english is understandable, I sometimes mash up the grammar with that of other languages)
Bro didn’t let it slide 💀