Edey and Clingan are exceptionally rare examples of highly productive bigs who are that tall, certainly as far as North American prospects go, and they move pretty well for their size. Sturdy bigs who are true 7-footers rarely go round 1 in the modern NBA, but those who do tend to be solid contributors like Rudy Gobert, Jakob Poeltl, and Walker Kessler. Edey and Clingan on paper have more upside than those guys, but we don't really know what that looks like in the modern NBA, though I think that guys who are as good as they are within said archetype do have a clear place in the league, and I think they're considerably less likely to bust than the likes of Dillingham and Holland. Drop coverage bigs have a much more secure place in the league as it is than non-shooting wings and severely undersized guards. (Shorter guards who do stick around like Brunson and VanVleet tend to be heavier/more muscular to better hold their ground)
I agree with most of this, but I think you might be overrating Edey's movement. He covers a lot of ground because he's so large, but I'm not sure about his speed or upside. You're right on with the Brunson VanVleet stuff though, and I'm worried Dillingham will never put on the weight he needs.
While Kentucky guards have historically found success in the league, I think we have to separate the player from the team. Dillingham's weaknesses on the film are too much to ignore just because he played for a Blue Blood. TyTy Washington and Tyler Ulis had similar concerns from Kentucky and obviously didn't fare well in the league.
@@SidelineClubHoopstyty was nowhere the scorer or shooter as Rob. Two totally different types of players. And ulis wasn’t good in college until after a couple years. Rob is 19 years old and him not starting was due to cal just not being smart lmao big Kentucky fan I watched every game he was the 2nd best player on the team every night
@@007kazi I made the comparison just to debunk the Kentucky guard claim the guy above me was making, but yeah obviously everyone comes into the league from different situations, nothing is ever a 1-to-1. At the end of the day, the defense is what scares me.
@@SidelineClubHoops Ian tryna keep it going lmao but this kinda show me u didn’t really watch Kentucky. Yes reed is a good shot blocker for a guard and very handsy with steals and stuff be is a terrible defender as well easily gets blown by and terrible off ball
@@007kazi You're all over this video man, we can end it here but there's a reason why Dillingham is falling and Shep is rising in mocks and stuff. Everyone can have their own opinion, which is why the draft is fun in the first place. If Rob's your guy, that's great and I hope he succeeds.
Lmfao u crazy rob a top 3 player in the draft. ALWAYS trust Kentucky guards. Especially one that can shoot as well as he does. Nobody playing defense in this generation
@@SidelineClubHoops ofc some players play defense. U named two of the best defenders in the whole league and Boston got a great defensive team and scheme it ain’t just them. Two of the best players in the world Luka and jokic some of the worst defenders in history
@@007kazi First of all, Dillingham projects to be far worse on the defensive end than Luka or Jokic just because of his size. Secondly, Luka and Jokic stay on the floor because they are both the best scorers and passers in the entire league, and their teams' offenses are nothing without them. Dillingham is just a bucket. He is literally Bones Hyland, which is fine, just not really a winning player. The defense is something I can overlook here, especially since in the playoffs you kinda have to defend, and winning a title is what it's all about.
@@SidelineClubHoops and what’s making u say he not a winning player? I watched him win Kentucky multiple games last year. Did u think Kyrie Irving wasn’t a winning player in the 11 games u seen of him at Duke? EFFICIENT scoring is winning basketball.
@@007kazi Kyrie and Dillingham were completely different players coming out of college which is why he was a clear 1st overall selection. Kyrie projected to lead an offense much better and offered a higher ceiling of defensive chops. Obviously Dillingham can score, but you almost need a perfect situation for him to be a high impact player. This is why there's such an emphasis on two-way players in this age of basketball.
Edey and Clingan are exceptionally rare examples of highly productive bigs who are that tall, certainly as far as North American prospects go, and they move pretty well for their size. Sturdy bigs who are true 7-footers rarely go round 1 in the modern NBA, but those who do tend to be solid contributors like Rudy Gobert, Jakob Poeltl, and Walker Kessler. Edey and Clingan on paper have more upside than those guys, but we don't really know what that looks like in the modern NBA, though I think that guys who are as good as they are within said archetype do have a clear place in the league, and I think they're considerably less likely to bust than the likes of Dillingham and Holland. Drop coverage bigs have a much more secure place in the league as it is than non-shooting wings and severely undersized guards. (Shorter guards who do stick around like Brunson and VanVleet tend to be heavier/more muscular to better hold their ground)
I agree with most of this, but I think you might be overrating Edey's movement. He covers a lot of ground because he's so large, but I'm not sure about his speed or upside. You're right on with the Brunson VanVleet stuff though, and I'm worried Dillingham will never put on the weight he needs.
If Dillingham wasn’t a Kentucky guard I would agree but he is and outside of Wemby they have been the best bet it the last 10 years
While Kentucky guards have historically found success in the league, I think we have to separate the player from the team. Dillingham's weaknesses on the film are too much to ignore just because he played for a Blue Blood. TyTy Washington and Tyler Ulis had similar concerns from Kentucky and obviously didn't fare well in the league.
@@SidelineClubHoopstyty was nowhere the scorer or shooter as Rob. Two totally different types of players. And ulis wasn’t good in college until after a couple years. Rob is 19 years old and him not starting was due to cal just not being smart lmao big Kentucky fan I watched every game he was the 2nd best player on the team every night
@@007kazi I made the comparison just to debunk the Kentucky guard claim the guy above me was making, but yeah obviously everyone comes into the league from different situations, nothing is ever a 1-to-1. At the end of the day, the defense is what scares me.
Edey will surprise you Memphis TN 9th
Dill is small ball 🏀🏀🏀 offense machine
Ngl tho immobile bigs could be the move heard they're super chill and dope usually
Nah you know what I heard that too low key
good content. I like the dillingham take, i don't see the hype here but red flags i much rather have his teammate reed
Yeah Reed Sheppard at least projects to be a high level role player in my opinion with the 3&D stuff, despite the size.
@@SidelineClubHoops Ian tryna keep it going lmao but this kinda show me u didn’t really watch Kentucky. Yes reed is a good shot blocker for a guard and very handsy with steals and stuff be is a terrible defender as well easily gets blown by and terrible off ball
@@007kazi You're all over this video man, we can end it here but there's a reason why Dillingham is falling and Shep is rising in mocks and stuff. Everyone can have their own opinion, which is why the draft is fun in the first place. If Rob's your guy, that's great and I hope he succeeds.
I agree
Randle and Jaylen Brown 🏀🏀🏀 became val players !! Not Knox
Lmfao u crazy rob a top 3 player in the draft. ALWAYS trust Kentucky guards. Especially one that can shoot as well as he does. Nobody playing defense in this generation
Defensive guards are back in style, Jrue and Dwhite proved that. Rob's defense is so bad it's hard to play him in my opinion.
@@SidelineClubHoops ofc some players play defense. U named two of the best defenders in the whole league and Boston got a great defensive team and scheme it ain’t just them. Two of the best players in the world Luka and jokic some of the worst defenders in history
@@007kazi First of all, Dillingham projects to be far worse on the defensive end than Luka or Jokic just because of his size. Secondly, Luka and Jokic stay on the floor because they are both the best scorers and passers in the entire league, and their teams' offenses are nothing without them. Dillingham is just a bucket. He is literally Bones Hyland, which is fine, just not really a winning player. The defense is something I can overlook here, especially since in the playoffs you kinda have to defend, and winning a title is what it's all about.
@@SidelineClubHoops and what’s making u say he not a winning player? I watched him win Kentucky multiple games last year. Did u think Kyrie Irving wasn’t a winning player in the 11 games u seen of him at Duke? EFFICIENT scoring is winning basketball.
@@007kazi Kyrie and Dillingham were completely different players coming out of college which is why he was a clear 1st overall selection. Kyrie projected to lead an offense much better and offered a higher ceiling of defensive chops. Obviously Dillingham can score, but you almost need a perfect situation for him to be a high impact player. This is why there's such an emphasis on two-way players in this age of basketball.