How Mesa Broke Warframe
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The fast and furious gunslinger shot her way into warframe and boy did she leave a bang. Today we explore a bit of history with Mesa and see how she has left an impact on the game, while also covering current Mesa in 2022.
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Happy new years everyone! Last upload of 2022, well... in my timezone that is.
Let me know what warframe you want to see me cover next, the most request frame will get a video
Hey great video can you do one for Wisp or Hildryn since they will be the next prime frames.
Thank you in advance. Keep up your great videos.
What about Garuda or Atlas for the next choice?
Happy New Years guys.
Happy new year man, here before 1k haha, you deserve more for the amazing content
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I think the only bad thing about current Mesa is that without the aimbot a lot of her cool Peacemaker animations are just gone.
Yeah but they dhow as ghosts when you shoot things, more visible with the augment
@@NeuralSensei they meant the animations of her shooting two completely different directions
@@NeuralSensei like the other guy said, it's more like the animations of her shooting two people on her left and right or putting one arm under the other to shoot behind her, or over her head to shoot at the other side and some other interesting ones that each have more of a casual trick shot kind of feel, where not we lost that casualness in favor of a highly lethal focus, which is still cool, just a very different vibe from the mesa a lot of people lived
they should make an augment that gives you the complete aimbot with a dmg reduction so people don't cry about her being op but looking at the game now mesa could get away with having the aimbot again, there's a lot of warframes that got reworked since the nerf and they're all up to speed
@@panzer4720 full 360, but a set short duration instead of a drain
I kinda miss those cheese setups. I can remember going into community chat to assemble a banshee built around her sonic ground thing, a trinity built around her energy siphon, a fast nova with negative power strength to speed up enemies, and a frosty snow globe. Once assembled, we could run a T3 Defense mission for over an hour, just collecting tons of prime parts. You’d never even see an enemy if banshees range was just right.
It was just like those early warframe trailers, like The Fall c:
That was the time I played the most with all hilarious, broken builds. Mirage with simular when it was op was easiest afk farm. Banshee atrax with that crazy melee slide damage mod that got nerfed into oblivion, god those were the days.
The best meta was nekros for loot, mag to pull everything to the center of the death squad, frost on defense and mesa on DPS. Those were the days.
I wonder if that still works? was it replaced by power creep or a change in the used frames?
@@ember_falls replaced by Molt Augmented, Blind Rage, 🏳️⚧️isent Fortitude, Maderai sling str.
But yeah you still can have a buffing set up, what’s stopping you~?
Mesa prime was the first prime warframe i ever grinded for, and she forever holds a spot in my heart with all the time ive put into her. Still my most used frame after 4 years. No frame could replace what mesa was for me
Considering how you normally get it was worth it
you gained my respect :D
Mesa, saryn, and Ivara are all like that for me. They're easy to use, and fairly potent for the cost of grinding a bit more
Mesa was also my first prime
I lucked out when I started playing, the moment I wanted to have Mesa her prime was just released. So I farmed the prime first and last year farmed normal mesa for subsuming her.
She also gets a counter-buff to her no melee passive. Instead just run any Furax (fist weapon) with the Amalgum furax mod and her regulators benefit from the +45% firerate passive to secondary weapons. Goes great with Mesa's normal secondary weapons passives too.
Completely forgot about this ngl, thanks for the reminder!
I ran her a long time ago...I'd do this just to see how powerful I can be with her now. When I started I wanted her but with the Alad V thing...I just made her my first prime.
@@beaawsome2211 its easier o get her prime than normal version of it tbh, one of this types of frames when its easier to get the prime one (perhaps same thing will happen with wisp gauss and grendel prime cuz its kinda horrible to farm them)
Wasn't aware of this, thanks.
Ihavent got the prime as its vaulted by the time of writing this. But I get lucky with the normal version, only need to beat alad v 3 times for each parts.
Im glad someoke finally mentioned the mesa blindfolded lore. It was one of the most badass things i’ve heard about a frame
My favourite tibit about Mesa is that her Regulators have an infinite magazine meaning unlike basically every gun, fire rate boosts aren't counter balanced with more reloading
The fact that she can shoot pistols faster than machineguns is so badass too
I wish there was an augment that gave her Peacemakers 360 degree aim, but changed the ability to have a set short duration
Something I could see them giving her an argument similar to Garuda. It reduces the range of the move but it becomes a radial 360 attack.
like hysteria, 15 second duration for 360 degree coverage.
call it "warkeeper"
just an alt fire charge up bar for burst of 360 would work
10:27 a change that I would made is turning her 1 into an ability that you can togle on and off were every time that the power stored reached 100%, it would spend energy and automatically shoot the empowered shot and start storing power for another one, making her gameplay more fluid, even synergising with Peacemaker
very cool idea, I like t hat
Mesa's Prime skin is easily one of the best in the game. The hat and her assets are perfect!
the cheeks 💛💛💛💛
Fr the assets are what make the frame so nice to look at.
@josephstalin5751 especially the b- ahem
as and U8 player, I love this "series" showing up the history of warframes , Mesa will always have a place in me no because she was OP, but having good times with the boys that no longer play warframe.
Would be cool if you do this video format with Trinity, Chroma, Ember (DE'd frames that got nerfed to almost death)
If we ever get a Warframe TV show, you know Mesa taking off her blindfold is going to be the "Oh shit." moment right.
A warframe TV show could be epic! However, I dunno how they would avoid Old/New War spoilers.
@@GeneralAblon Why avoid it? Just do the damn show, regardless of spoilers!
I joined Warframe because of Mesa until I found out just how tedious it was to get her by farming.
Mutalist alad v farm is definitely easier now a days but on release it was one of the most tedious farms
Same but i got lucky joined last year at prime resurgance farmed her prime fast
@@NovaUmbral Oh definitely. I loved her before Ivara arrives so I just said screw it and bought her with platinum.
I ended up getting her in just 3 runs after i lied to the 3 other people in the squad that i had a key, luckily i was the last person to use the key so i was like "well we got all her parts haha, we dont need to use mine, bye"
After that i used her to wipe the floor with the star chart and she remained my most used frame for 3 years, only to now be blown out of the water with my new main, Mirage Prime, being used more than 3x as much as her, who will likely never be dethrowned as my most used frame.
mesa prime ftw. the prime version looks hotter too
Just forged Mesa, and I have Mesa Prime on foundry till tomorrow, and stumbled upon this sweet piece of art people call video.
Now I'm motivated as hell to build her ❤
New sub, btw
Another amazing discussion! I love your approach in creating content for Warframe. Happy New Year Tenno!
We all lift together in 2023
She isn't overpowered anymore though. She certainly isn't the highest damage or best area clear late game. I have a build that is really strong dont get me wrong, but it took me A LOT of effort to get it equivalent to lets say khora's whipclaw, excals exalted blade, or valkyrs talons.
I'd say mesa is a great frame for those going through star chart and shifting into sp.
Great video!
Ah, Mesa. The first frame I ever obtained after my starting one (friend of mine at the time just told me to look at the warframes in the shop, tell me what I liked the look of, and I chose her on a whim, and he gave me the extra plat I needed to buy her), she's always had a special place in my heart - and you know I grinded for the prime version day 1 and got most of the cosmetics for her specifically.
I haven't played Warframe at all for... god knows how many years, when was that update that added a new Excal skin that had a unique animation involving him smoking a pipe? But it makes me happy (in a kind of twisted way) to see that my gunslinging gal is still hella powerful.
Been my most used ever since a friend gifted me her years before her prime was a thing. Used her so much it took like a year or two of me using her prime for that version to be my most used. Always had a love for Gunslingers as a whole, I'm a simple man so she was destined to be my favorite.
Would love to see an episode on Octavia if one hasn't been done so already.
I got Mesa prime. One of my fav frames. Been tuning up my revenant and Xaku builds recently. You are talking me into going back to Mesa for some additional tuning.
Your channel have become the source of what warframe i wanna get next xD
A video about tanking in warframe might be interesting! Or Lavos/Hildryn since they don't use energy and how this affects their gameplay.
would be interesting to see a doco style video about nova, considering she was put into the game with design input from players iirc? and also her very abnormal prime release timing
Mesa, the frame that with the rework to armor stripping is probably the best solo dps… ever. Hyldrin’s Pillage or Nekros’ Terrify means with only one or two casts the enemies defense is completely neutered for her regulators to slaughter.
To this day Mesa is the only prime access I ever purchased, Before the prime, base Mesa was my fav frame so i was unbelievably hyped seeing her prime access pop up years ago.
No regrets, was 100% the $150 i spent just so i can declare my love for this frame with the glyph. Still rocking the Mesa Prime profile icon in game to this day too.
I started playing warframe again around the time her Prime dropped, so I was able to get her as my first prime lol, I didn't even like her and just stuck with my Mag
got me with that pfp lol
I came back after being gone for more then 2 years... Loving it 😍 I mean damn!! The railjack??? F**k yeah. I already made a clan and research was all but finished up until 2 years ago! So I have so much to do, to catch up and get myself out of MR25 and into MR30 and the Legendaries after that!
Liked the video but its also worth mentioning there are other builds mesa can utilize that far outscale regulators. As you mentioned regulators don't have the best end game scaling. What does have good scaling however is staggering shield + xata subsume making mesa able to do millions of damage with slash procs that scales to lvl 9999 mobs in endurance. This takes the cake imo. Yeah regulators are cool but nowadays many frames can nuke tiles. Most frames dont have good endless scaling options like mesa does.
Mesa was the frame I saw before I started playing and she became my end goal. I’m super into the western/mercenary aesthetic and she fit that perfectly. 5 years later and she’s still my favorite and the only prime access I’ve ever fully bought. She got my first umbral forma, she was my lich hunter (pre damage attenuation) she has the most playtime. Idk if anything will surpass the feeling when I fully farmed her base frame.
Banshee went through a similar super nerf back in the day. Great breakdown
Well, her first ability with the augment and the Cedo, you can nuke and entire room with two shots... While being able to move and kill ennemies faster than with her regulators ;)
You can do the same with the trumna, charging the secondary "shot".
And Stahlta.
When aya first dropped, mesa got me so rich off of farming them in deimos. Shes such a good frame for speed running big open maps.
Happy new years NovaUmbra!
Happy new years mate!
One thing I think you forget to mention is, the "3 damage bonuses" she gets from her 4, and the one she gets from her 2, are all additive base damage mods, which means they're pretty garbage in total, because neither of those buffs are multiplicative, and you're basically just getting like 4 hornet strikes, meaning diminishing returns
The main bonus from her 4 is multiplicative with strength so you drop hornet strike as you probably know , the other two are in fact multiplicative with the main bonus and any other mod her 2 though yeah is piss poor dmg wise but the cc is worth it , her 1 though is spicy on right DoT / niche setups old one was busted with old gas
What should I use if I were to helminth over her 1? I was thinking resonator, roar or eclipse. Thanks for the great content!
nice i see that old SSI clan tag right there :) its always nice to see some old clips. PS: Press H please its not easy to see the vidoes when you are drunk hahaha cheers from SSI_NightMare if your still remember me by any chance ^^
Mesa is BY FAR one of my most desired Frames, she's so cool and I love the Gunslinger type characters. Unfortunately, I have horrible luck with drops, and only getting to hunt down Mutie Alad once every Blue Moon when an Coordinate is available sucks. Either way though, she's a really cool Frame and I cannot wait to get her Prime.
just buy her with plat lol
I'd be interested in seeing something on Zephyr. I was told that she used to be bad when I initially played years ago, but when I came back, I was told that she was extremely strong. What changed exactly?
Old Zephyr was clunky to control, had 2 abilities that basically did nothing, a CC ability that cost too much and actively made enemies harder to hit (especially with melee if we're talking about the era where only melee scaled hard enough for high-end killing), and a survival ability so she could at least stay alive while bumping into walls and doing nothing of value.
She got some buffs, but it's mostly the state of the game that changed.
Gun power creep got to the point that they can be your main source of damage without any frame buffs for 90% of what you'll spend your time doing. Mostly relevant for AoE guns, which largely used to suck but are now the default way to play the game. This makes DPS frames less relevant unless they bring something really special to the table and completely kicked CC out of the meta.
Hard CC spam became a much less reliable means of survival for various reasons I won't get into here.
The health and energy economy sort of stopped existing, so traditional support frames are a lot less relevant.
New tilesets are bigger and the open areas exist, which makes her a lot less clunky.
Her buffs were pretty good. She got a passive damage buff, an enemy-grouping CC ability that's dirt cheap and her chaotic CC now helps transfer damage to affected enemies, but this is a lot less important than her ability to carry your silly boom gun of choice and not die. Being immune to ranged attacks and in the air is some of the most reliable survival, doesn't matter what level the mission is. She's also pretty fast, which is nice.
Do sevagoth next please
Agreeed, I’ve been running Sevagoth with Silence and the Crowd control is insane!
I love for you to do a video on Nidus since after all he is my main
Honestly my only real problem with Mesa is the fact that if your host is lagging AT ALL then Peacemaker is nearly impossible to use.
And that's mostly a Warframe problem instead of a Mesa problem.
I remember grinding out the OG mesa parts. Such a flex to have her. Was sad when the prime came out.
same but for prime, at the time i did not even know how good she was, i was just a "new" player that just happen to have a lot of mesa prime relics and now i main her no matter the content
When I first downloaded Warframe on Xbox Mesa was the newest frame. She was plastered right there on the loading screen as I booted up the game and I fell in love. (Not in that way) She had a western aesthetic and was super powerful. Didn't need to ask for much more.
I still remember, long before Mesa's Waltz augment was added to the game, I'd sometimes just be able to walk around in her 4. Her prime is currently my most used frame, far exceeding all my other frames.
This is the first time i have ever seen anyone online actually mention this.
Had a buddy that played alot of mesa that figured out so long as you held the button the ability was bound to was a consistant way to walk.(slowly)
Bullet jump > ulti > profit
These videos are really interesting!
Might I add to the blindfold thing, Regulator Prime has no built in hammer like a normal revolver, instead Mesa prime strikes the gun with her thumb, meaningb her fingers can go THAT FAST
definitely one of the most underrated warframe youtubers out there, extremely interesting videos with an amazing editting style. love it, mind if i ask what colourblind settings you use? is it in game or after recording
Thank you for the kind words!
@NovaUmbral thanks a lot! keep up the good videos, a video on embers downfall would be awesome if you haven't done one already, or on the problems with railjack/how it sort of got forgotten. thanks again
Damn,I remember grinding for her hard back when she came out and after getting her I remember being baffled at how broken she was for defense. After returning recently and finding out she has a prime version,she is crafting in my foundry as we speak.
Nice job. I dont like her too much since she doesnt scale that well but she is fast killer if you dont go that far. Keep doing more videos. Video on grendel rework would be interesting. In my opinion he is one of top frames right now. Defence, damage, buffs, armorstrip... I was blown away by that rework. He literaly went from Hydroid friend to Octavia friend.
roar and galavanized mods exist
Mesa's muzzle flash augment currently activates on 6 kills or assists making it even better.
Ballistic battery w opticor was crazy vs eidolons idk abt now aint been on in a min
Mesa got me through the game. Back then on ps4 it was hard to find someone for general star chart missions and she could solo the content.
The instant position change in the intro just makes me think of club penguin
I don't have mesa but I've witnessed what a high spec endgame Mesa can do never felt so useless in my life 😂
Been going through your library recently, I take it you’re a Sonic Frontiers fan 🙂
It really bothers me that Shooting Gallery and Shatter Shield don't have the same duration
Same
You mentioned her regulators only had one downside, there's actually two more. They don't headshot and they can't hit weakpoints, so enemies that have weakspot requirements cause her some issues.
She can also roll during her Peacemaker, if my memory serves correctly. It's been a bit since last time I've played.
They CAN headshot, and are insane when they do, but you have to be in a position where the ray cast from your position to the center of the enemy passes through their head, which means at a significantly higher vantage point.
@@excaliburner9413 Does that also mean they can hit weakpoints as well? Sounds pretty impractical to rely on for any consistency, but I bet it's extremely satisfying when it does happen.
15:53 no wonder the giant flying orokin snake in the cinematic just fucking exploded after like 3 shots from her regulators
Let's not forget Mess Prime's most important passive: She got a GREAAAAT AAAASS
They need to bring back Mesa's 4th ability's 360° shooting for the sheer flavor.
The fact that Brennan said that Mesa's helmet is actually blindfolded because Mesa enjoys a challenge is just *_too cool to pass up._*
Ash and Mesa were the definitive 4 to win. Funny you didnt mention Ash, thankfully that Tactical Potato clip solved that. Ash was notorious for his 4 killing things in other rooms lol.
will there be wideo about octavia incident where one warframe is so versitale and strong but basicly is mostly forgoten becaus its for some players consider her "broken/boring" ?
*listening to this at work*
"And now for her ultimate... *slaughter noises for three seconds "
mesa only weakness is 'can't aimbot on special target'
Great video, but you neglected to mention the fact that her guns aren't her only great a_s sets ;).
I'm curious, what build do you use for the Chakkhurr?
My problem is that DE nerfs some abilities for being OP yet Mesa has always been easy mode.
She is so much easier to use than a lot of Warframes.
Loved the intro
Mesa ever since her release has been my main girl. Still remember when she first came out and you could look at the floor obliterating everything around you 😂😂. However the aiming mechanic for Mesa was actually a buff since before you’d hit someone half way across the room and not the level 100 butcher about to one shot you cause it’s melee damage which her 3 doesn’t protect against so aiming in PM fixed that 😁❤️
Such a nice video man, but please press "H", maybe dont know but that changes the view, just joking xd, keep up with good videos mate!!
An improvement for Ballistic Battery could be to give it the purpose of breaking through those big annoying ball-shields, the ones that would otherwise stop Warframe powers from working. Been noticing that a lot of missions would be going pretty smoothly, and then the game decides that you really shouldn't pass this next mission and replaces all upcoming enemies with ball-shields, and now, if you were trying to train up a set of new weapons or had a good run with Saryn or a sneak-attack bonus with Equinox, or something, your progress hits a dead stop. An improved ballistic battery shot could break a single shield at 1%, and ricochet to break other ball-shields going up to 100%. Other than that, it could just also just channel all its damage into Impact, to keep up with the shield-bane idea.
Please tell me you remember when mirage first dropped and her clones counted for gun stats to be multiplied X5... EACH (it was a bug). Resulting in every gun being able to red crit and mess up fps. It was about 2 weeks of chaos. pretty much reaching damage cap at all times.
Use nourish, prime glaive with mark of the beast, combat dicipline (with arcane avenger) an adarza kavat with reinforced bond, build your regulators with corrosive and bam, nothing survives.
She is THIS good~
Sonic unleashed Werehog level music...i see man i see u
LOVE all the sonic music in these videos
Things only appear as a rule until the devs smash everything with a new update. There once was a time I thought they has a plan how to balance weapons when they aligned the mastery rank requirements and weapon dps many years ago. But then voidrig and incarnon T5 happened. Also all the aoe released since tonkor and only now they fixed the infinite ammo forever situation.
btw with invigoration override is the warframe equipment stat limit break system one can stack more ability strength, more fire rate for secondary and few more one any warframe for ruffly 7 days that stack ontop of your current loadout! and so work as a limit break!😅 depending what of the 3 aviable stat boost you choose to activate on your warframe of choice with override! also overide can be reused every 10 invigorations! and yes override invigoration works as its own addetiv stats.
My first Circuit run in duviri had my mesa prime for selection, I main mesa. It was GG ez and we reaced lv 250, could have gone longer but i needed sleep. Enemies were gone the moment i got her regulators up. God i love this frame.
Think I'm one of the few oddballs who had Mesa Prime before Mesa.
nope i have like 3/4 of all warframe primes but only have gotten 6-7 normal warframes.
Fam most people get a lot of frame primes before getting the normal ones. In fact if they don't care that much about mastery rank or don't care about their helminith ability most people don't even bother going for the normal frames at all as long as their primes are out. Numerous frames their primes are waaaay easier to get than the normal ones...and Mesa is espcially one of them. Normal Mesa is notoriously hard to farm.
Somewhere in my top 3 favorite warframes along Wisp and Nova. She's insane.
The reason Mesa is busted is cause the community manager mains her. Its a trend you see through out the game. When the devs main a frame that frame gets special treatment. This was seen back in the day with things. Like their augments fitting in the exilus slot or an entire rebuilt relay. Being ember themed cause a dev mains her.
6:36 I miss this tile
13:43 Octavia: are you sure about that?!
Now I only got my mesa sometime after she hade her retical added to her 4th power so I cant say much for the earily days of her realese but I still did not see many Mesas in the wild so that speak I think it came down to the key to fight infested aled v that dropet her part was not farmed or was unseen for most of the community.
When mesa prime dropet that changet,you saw alot more people use her in just about any mission for the first month or so.
Power wise her 4th is one of the top one, only getting competition in niche senarios by things lick Ash's old 4th power and old spoore spaming saryin.
I just got Mesa Prime, I have a friend thats used to playing with my Garuda Prime and keeping up with her, he said today that he misses my Garuda cause he at least had a few enemies to beat up.
Mesa was one of my first mains in Warframe her on Draco w greedy pull mag, nekros and a speed nova made affinity farming literally an AFK stray as w/ Mesa you could shift+tab while in peacemaker and you'd literally have her 4th auto run itself. I've done that and would literally go and do something else while peacemaker would still be running when I got back to my PC. Good times ❤
Why do you prefer that side of the third person view? out of curiosity
my 1st warframe besides starter volt was mesa prime I simply loved the way she looked I didn't even look at her abilities but I quickly fell in love with her kit and she is my most used warframe and I hate the people who put any skins on mesa prime because she has THE BEST LOOKING frame
I believe Mesa came out around the time I left. She made a proto zoom and boom meta.
Mesa breaking the game is the reason my buddy stopped playing Warframe apperently. Said she made the game too easy to be fun anymore.
Defense missions when she dropped. Paired with Mag’s pull augment. 🎉🎉
Mag next mag next! 😊
I remember a long time ago, I managed (somehow) to bug Regulators ... so that they lasted indefinitely
Only managed to do it once by accident, but my GOD that was a fun infested survival
Warframe is the only game I've seen where the power creep is so crazy that "now you need to aim" is considered a heavy nerf
How did i miss Mesa Walts is a exilus slot mod 😂 Guess i'm going to play her more now.
It's quite bad u can literally just deactivate 4 then just move
@@noahedenborg4221 and stop shooting, and spend energy again, not everyone has arcane energize.
@@vitorarbex yeah but most players have yellow shards
@@noahedenborg4221 i dont. i Just finished New war but i think ill look into The shard system. It does not look top big a grind.
Archon Continuity, which makes Toxin procs also trigger a Corrosive proc, works very well on Mesa. Indeed, if the Regulators are built for Toxin, Mesa will be able to trigger both types of status effects. While the Regulators have at base poor status chance, they fire so fast that it doesn't hinder too much. And the Condition Overload mod for secondaries work very well here too
Trust me it's not worth it
@Noah Edenborg I disagree, it works very well on her. I have around 25% status effect chance on her, and with such a high fire rate, it's easy to get CO
@@Khtras yeah but raw corrosive is better then going toxin and using that awful mod
@Noah Edenborg Duration works well on Mesa, so it's far from awful, and I have seen a drastic boost in performance with it and Toxin compared to pure corrosive and damage
@@Khtras the duration part is fine it's that when I tested pure corrosive vs that mod and pure toxin it seemed pure corrosive kills more then pure toxin and that mod
Thank you Duviri Warframe Path 🤠
I distinctly remember when she came out, me and my buddy farmed her, I speed crafted her parts, we went into a mission, leveled her, went back into another one, I used 4. Realized it was 360 aimbot. Friend cackled hysterically for the rest of the 35 wave defense mission.
I put a full three Umbra Forma into my Mesa Prime, and a few other Strength mods. Not even the Sentients' adaptation in Railjack can survive for more than a second.
Shooting gallery does like a lil circle animation when it gets activated to maybe thats why it cycles? I dunno im just speculating