You can find more information about HPPD as well as references on the TDC website: thedrugclassroom.com/video/hallucinogen-persisting-perception-disorder-hppd/ If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
The Drug Classroom you should do a video on scopolamine. I'd love to hear what you have to say about it, the wacky stories about it, and especially the science. I have no personal experience with the drug, but it comes from a plant and it sounds crazy unbelievable what people say it does to you.
The Drug Classroom i have hppd ongoing and its veeery psychedelic as if i had just taken lsd i have some very detailed an complicated visuals but its less vivid/ bright once i concentrate on these effects its hard to focus and concentrate but sometimes it just doesnt occur to me and i can go on in my daily live with no problems and these visual effects have no negative impact on me and i took 2cb a while ago and since then my visual effects when im not on anything are more intense then ever BUT i have to add that for me to be fuckin honest its more of a skill than a disorder i can think of something like spongebob or a pink elefant and i see it and if i concentrate i can see old visual effects i once had tripping but less vivid/bright t he brainstructure changes ... you rewire your brain when you change habits for example and for me its like the substances i take make my brain more open to rewirering or it just becomes easier to do so and lsd and 2cb gave me some hyperreal ultravivid ultra complex and detailed visual effects and i concentrated on these for a long time and what i THINK (i dunno shit) is that visual effects you have on psychedelics are different than in normal state and they are more intense and stimulating and because of that they just rewire the visual parts of the brain on lsd the brain is under way more "electricity" i guess ... and maybe it CAN force some brains into a different way of working with visuals but i really dont have any clue i can without a problem distinguish reality from these effects the visual effects from "my ongoing hppd " are more like i just bring them up from a different part of the brain (there were imagination resides) and i now can (and sometimes it just happens) overlay these visuals over my normal sight (i see the exact same visual effect when i close my eyes (only gets a lil more vivid)) hmmmmm
HeroiX it’s basically a type of hypnotherapy in which you revert your thinking and perception to the way it was, say a year ago in order to help treat mental disorders and trauma
Psychedelics did wonders in my life. Over the course of my life, I've suffered from uncontrollable, depression, anxiety, alcohol, smoking, and illicit pills addiction. Imagine carving heavy chains for a long time and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. This is something that really needs to be used globally to help people with similar health challenges. I've been sober for 6 years and have my life back.
To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.
Can you help me with a reliable source? I have suffered from years of addiction, anxiety, and severe ptsd, thinking I got my panic attacks under control, they've come back with a vengeance, and I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't. It's absolutely crippling me, I'm in Switzerland and it is hard to get a reliable source here. Really need!
Yes, Sporeville. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and addiction... Mushrooms definitely made a huge difference to why I'm clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He's 59 & has many mental health issues plus probably CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD knows if it is common for an obsession with violence.
I used to have severe symptoms. My secret to making them go away almost entirely... Sleep, the most useful thing to do. Start sleeping until you wake up naturally and try to do this as much as possible. Gotta let the brain repair. In a few months you'll start to feel a lot better. Meditation helps dramatically. Reading. Exercise and eating healthy are a plus but for me going to gym made it worse for some reason, all the endorphins made the symptoms more severe. Once again because I cant stress it enough... SLEEP!!!
Yep, my HPPD only starts to bother me if I'm in a bad frame of mind naturally. Most of the time it's just static and halos and I think it's quite cool enjoy it. If im currently stressed or tired though I start to get the "what if I've messed myself up forever", worrying kind of thoughts and the HPPD makes me feel disconnected.
Yea, I had mild HPPD too and the best treatment for me was patience, no psychedelic & mdma usage and sleep. Right now I use psychedelics once every two months and ecstasy 3 times a year. I got mild HPPD again, so floaters and a kind of static overlay of my vision, but I've pretty much accepted it and just live with it. I am kinda considering completely stopping my psychedelic usage again, but I also feel like they have a positive influence on my life and my outlook..
I've had it in the past and it went away after being sober for a while. The best way to describe it is seeing psychedelic patterns when staring at something for more than a few seconds, people would become cartoon like, walls would have maya calendar patterns and objects would grow and move. At the start it was distressing and some tasks like reading were impossible but after time my brain learned to ignore the hallucinations. Its hard to imagine but I learnt to read sentences while they moved in 3d dimensions (closer and further), the thing that annoyed me the most wasn't actually the hallucinations but the lack of understanding people had. I would tell people that I hallucinate regularly and that it was because of psychedelic use but they would automatically assume I was psychotic. I also remember that cannabis became very psychedelic once hppd had set in, and really turned into a psychedelic of its own. The hppd gradually stopped over time but my perception never changed back to what it used to be. Although I don't hallucinate all the time now, colours are more vibrant and reality looks more like a dream. I can also hallucinate if I concentrate hard enough. To be quite honest I prefer reality this way, it doesn't effect my life in anyway and I would compair my present reality to a minecraft texture pack. I haven't met anyone who has had a similar change of perception but friends from my psychedelic past seem to agree with me on some aspects. The lack of understanding and the stigma of it being psychosis prevents people from talking openly about it
@@ryan4668 it didn't go away completely but it took 1 year of not smoking weed for it not to be noticeable. I still smoke weed now although if I hadn't done a tolerance break I dont think i would off been able too continue
This is great. I find things to be very similar for me, also. I hallucinate in the sense that the environment "breathes" from time to time, red and orange colours appear to be significantly brighter and dominant, greens appear to be the most vivid in how many gradients of green I can see, but I relate to you saying about the relative impact on your life. Takes adjusting, but I'm not sure psychosis would be how I'd describe it. As you stated, that stigma does prevent exploring other discussions.
HPPD was not fun after a bad trip. It really felt like my brain was fried and I was terrified. I remember an instance where I was was sitting at the table and I was listening to fridge buzz. After a few seconds, I was hearing conversations, laughter - all of which I couldn't interpret the context of, and right before I was able to snap out of it, it was angry yelling voices. There were so many instances like that. I'll never forget that fear.
I’ll never forget my bad trip either have not taken acid or any psychedelic sense oct 31 2020 I had things come threw my walls seen triple 6 upside down crosses had demons in my room and the voices and like 7 people screaming in my head and I could hear things talking to me when I listened to videos I could hear really creepy things in the background and the pich I’m peoples voices went up and down like terrified me so bad I was up for days and for over a month I was a shell of a person I still don’t know what to believe I don’t know what was real I remember so little and so much from it it feels like a fever dream..
@@nikicarrie4071 no idea but it’s not like I was new to the substance or those very same tabs from the same batch I took 4 of them one time on a school night and tripped in school they were “double dosed” But on that night with my bad trip only took 2 I went to the ER flushed ever drug and pill bottle and whatever else I had that night in a panic I thought I was going to die on the car ride there I seen my death 100 times from car crash to overdoseing on something on my bed whatever happened that night fucked me up for life I still to this day have HPPD and see static/ visual snow 24/7 and halos every now and then.
@@Azzy5k oh wow ❤️ that’s why I’m scared to try thank you. Mabe they should have an expiration date idk of that has anything to do with it thank you 🙏🏽
Nate Kratz ...really?....I have known thousands of people who, often, took heroic doses of LSD, mushrooms, peyote buttons and so on ....AND none ever had any such thing as hppd or flashbacks.....this is over 40 years........WEIRD that you know multiple,people who have had this problem?
I’ve had it for a while, probably 10 years. I never had a negative thought about it, it is what it is. My girlfriend developed it and she is not having a good time. I catch her testing to see just how bad it is at the moment. And she’s like “don’t you see like that?” And I’m like yeah, but I don’t care. I took drugs, this is what happens.
If you would like to skip to a specific section, here are the timestamps: Definition & Diagnosis - 00:58 Onset - 02:21 What It's Not - 03:03 Categories of HPPD/flashbacks - 03:59 Most Common Drugs - 05:58 History - 06:48 How Common Is It - 08:41 Risk Factors - 10:23 Triggers - 10:59 Mechanisms - 11:51 Treatment - 14:02 What To Do If You Have Symptoms - 15:50
@@eratzzombie8450 the thing is i might be susceptible to HPPD. my eyes are already in pretty bad shape and when i go from a light to a dark room i see very slight visual snow effects despite never having done any psychedelics besides edible weed. looking to try ayahuasca and shrooms someday but thats about it.
Well my psychiatrist and neurologist have never heard of this disorder. I have NEVER done any drugs. I’ve had visual snow since I as far back as I can remember. I have had the weird cartoon images and animations closed-eye hallucinations at bedtime occasionally since being a little kid. Then in June 2020 I had what might of been an encephalitis episode and have had almost all of the symptoms listed in this video since. It was first brushed off as schizophrenia, the suspected to be encephalitis, then all my results came back normal, and they’re back to schizophrenia. But I have no clear diagnosis. But this video perfect describes 80% of my symptoms.
I have an anxiety disorder and the symptoms they've described are a lot like what I've experienced. And I've also had visual snow, seen floaters and etc, but my anxiety makes me notice them more and I didn't even know I had it until I read into it which happened only because I was anxious... I think a lot of these patients just have some form of anxiety disorder brought on by psychedelic usage and realised the visual effects as anxiety makes you feel "hyper aware" and constantly checking and questioning yourself.
Scientific and metric Solid-found evidence says, ‘suggestibility’ number 1 effect of Cannabis and LSD (source Pollin) Plus GAD (Generalized Anxiety Disorder) Bingo
I disagree from personal experience but I'm also not everyone so maybe that's the case for others. I used to get weird tracers behind cars, especially in the dark with running lights on, after being dehydrated from working in the heat all day but I wasn't anxious at all. The only other time I really had annoying levels of hppd symptoms was if I was really hungry or had low blood sugar. I got trailing n that weird thing where shadows in textures look like they're rolling away and not moving at the same time
I’ve got HPPD from consuming shrooms too frequently, You’re kind of right in a way. When it was really bad constantly thinking about it Definitely made 3x worse, focusing on the static and the weird looking shit and thinking it would never be the same again. It’s hard but the best thing to do to help HPPD is lay off any Psycheelics (weed too) and try not to think about it. Funnily enough after going on a mini drinking binge for 3 days I felt like it got better. But my brain chemistry is all fucked
Except for the fact those most who have the visual fractals after taking psychedelics dont have distress from it. The distress just comes from fundamental anxiety.
carlos is right, but it can be an annoyance if its strong... I had to quit driving for about 4 months for my own and everyone elses safety I could not see clearly for an entire year maybe longer after continuous use of psychedelic & stims
My hppd is pretty strong, it does annoy me once in awhile, mostly when I read or I'm sitting still for long periods of time, it all depends on the person and thier view on the disturbances it causes them
I dropped acid my first year of college and had a very difficult trip. I had to drop out for a year because I couldn't read more than a few words at a time (the words seemed to slip off the page before I could focus on them). Took about 10 months for things to be still again, like everything was either shaking, sliding, or melting, but only a little bit, and only sometimes, so I guess I got lucky with a minor case. No one knew what the hell I was talking about at the time (back in 2015), so it's very relieving to see this video, bringing some awareness to the matter. It can be very scary to go through, at least it was for me. I'm sober and happy now.
To anyone who might be going through this right now, I promise you’ll be good. May 7th 2020 was my last time taking psychedelics for fun, and I had a horrible trip that lasted for pretty much months and broke my brain and gave me an existential crisis. Waking up every day was hard. I thought I was the most enlightened person and I had all these crazy schizophrenic thoughts and was always so paranoid. After a year I got better on my own, but I never worked out, ate healthy or focused too hard on getting good sleep so I’m sure you can get there quicker if you do those things. The one good thing about HPPD is if you can beat it it will make you a lot stronger and more comfortable and real life will seem a lot better and easier if you’re strong enough to push through. I do not regret my experience at all. And you shouldn’t either. Just push through, it will make a good story to tell one day.
@@danelindsey3508 i had done salvia and acid numerous times, but did acid again, too soon after having a very intense trip. Shit fucked me up. I couldn’t even look at artificial light without being traumatized and scarred.
@@wavxy7454 it was just really bad. But the thing is it actually goes away and you’ll go back to normal. You’re just gonna be forced to change for the better for a little bit. You’re going to have to get outside, work out, be grateful for life and family, and just get back into the normal swing of things. You’ll be Gucci brotha. You are here, and you are fine. Get a nice drink and a snack if you feel anxious and watch something funny like stand up comedy
@@FlezBagJayGags heard that bro 🙏, I’m trying man I’m 16 and just worried don’t wanna be stuck like this yk. I feel as most of the stuff is gone but my vision is just Static and I heard visual snow last forever, so jus confused between hppd and the visual snow thing if it’s temporary hppd symptoms still or VS. haven’t even played varsity baseball this year missed every game bc of it. It’s like just really static wit these floaters in my eyes. Imma keep moving tho it’s the only way out and I’m a very active kid who had goals that got temporary sent back bc of this. Just lost on what to do, haven’t slept in days bc it’s jus this wire that don’t go off. No relief whatsoever trying my hardest to distract my self but this static vision always present. No matter what I do, thanks for getting back to me g. Gives me some motivation to keep going have thoughts about just ending it myself but ik that not right but jus miss the old me and hopefully it revert back. God bless u bro stay safe ❤️🙏
What about sugar? Never mind. Your friends are as safe as crossing a road. Even if they wait for the green light at the crossing, a van might swerve and flatten them, those things do happen every now and then. So yeah, you can minimize the risk but there's a little uncertainty left, always.
Had this like 3 years ago, and it was crazy. I'd come into work and occasionally the a wooden grain on the door would start to flow life a melting painting. I also had visual snow, especially on cloudy days. It was like tiny particles in my vision that moved in a murmuration like birds do. It was like a blizzard when it was just slightly overcast. It's gone away slowly over a couple years, but sometimes things grow or shrink ever so slightly in my vision.
I started taking lots of psychedelics a few years ago, the lsd, shrooms, and dmt caused no problems, made life better if anything. But I got addicted to mdma/mda and quickly developed lots of mental problems. I’ve accepted it but whenever I smoke weed I get psychotic symptoms unless I’m on benzos. It’s not hppd but I definitely want to know more about it.
MDA goes hard af. Super hallucinogenic roll. I've only got to really do it once and it was pretty nuts.beyond eye jitters.i took a hit nitrous and started seeing different hallucinations out of each eye. Like my visual cortex separated or something. I could see how it could be a problem having it around in abundance. Intensely blissful. I think it's also rather toxic.
I feel unbalanced I can't think right ever since I did acid for the third time and was a different type of chemical. I feel like I can't think and barely remember. I'm 20 and made some bad decisions w drugs
One of the best things to treat this is to calm and rest your mind/brain. Doing any drugs puts your brain through a lot so it’s no surprise that they have bad side effects. I recommend avoiding all stimulants for a while and do meditation and yoga. I was able to treat mine by avoiding any stimulants. Even coffee brought on my hppd symptoms.
I’ve had these symptoms for five years now so for anyone who’s just now experiencing HPPD and is reading this I want you to know it gets easier so don’t panic. When I first started going through all of this I was so scared I actually thought suicide was the only way to fix my issue which I am very glad I did not do. The best thing you can do for yourself is relax and realize you’re not going as crazy as you think. Unfortunately, there is no cure so try your best to adjust to the new way you see the world. Stay away from drugs (as best as you can), eat healthy food, exercise everyday and most importantly GET GOOD SLEEP. After awhile you won’t even notice the static and the floaters it all becomes normal and you go back to living like you were before.
@@007_debrudrabhadra6 I still have visual symptoms but it doesn’t affect my daily life. I don’t take any medications for it and I haven’t tried anything therapy wise, I just try to ignore it and go about business as usual. I recommend wearing sunglasses if bright lighting becomes that bothersome but other than that, everything in my first comment is the only piece of advice I can give. The real key is getting proper REM sleep. When I go to bed and wake up at reasonable hours my visuals aren’t as near as intense.
I would have these dizziness feelings and my head would go into a rush, after I’d have aura migraines, after my first episodes of panic attacks I went sober my symptoms of static and after images have improved drastically, Gym, eat right and sleep when you feel tired helps a lot, especially having faith in God he’s helped me a lot through this tough situation I thank him everyday for helping me through this shit
I have HPPD for 10 years now after heavy overdose of benzydamine hcl. Moving objects that are close to my view are leaving "shadow trails" in the air. Never seek treatment, got use to it. It can be helpfull in tracing small objects like droped screws, coins etc. I used LSD and Psilocibine since - it had no effect on HPPD. It doesn't affect my day to day life.
Difkament I'm curios if someone could throw a coin into your field of vision and have it land where you wouldn't see it. It would be super interesting to see if that trail would show you where it landed, because if it did that seems pretty significant to me. Adding a trail to something you can see would be easy enough to imagine, but actually having something pass you and leave a real trail behind that you could follow seems like something else completely.
@Switch Kick i don't think that's hppd, i've been wondering if flashbacks are real lately and i think its your body being put in the same environment as the trip and your brain makes you trip. Because really its not the chemical making you trip, its the chemical assisting your brain in making you trip.
@@thefllxo8491 that's the best description. flashbacks have been proven not to be real most cases of flashbacks occurred right after ww2 and people had PTSD then they would do pyscedelics and have a PTSD episode and say it was a flashback. I've done lsd dmt shrooms and a lot of the triptemines and never had an flashback or hppd
I did acid a couple times earlier in my life, and noticed after i had there were multiple occurrences where I had seen hallucinations that weren’t so much impairing as they were jarring. I had a moment where while i was at work I saw a truck stop stand up with little legs and walk a few steps, but after i took a second look I quickly realized it was obviously a hallucination. I would occasionally see movements out of the corner of my eyes, and it lasted for several months, which lead to me abstaining from hallucinogens.
Dealt with hppd for about a year after an intense and bad trip. I found what really helped was to just try not to think about the thoughts and feelings you had during the trip, and stay focused on the present moment and the tasks you have to do throughout the day. And eventually the hppd withered away
I don't understand why everyone is saying it's all negative. I was born with hppd I used to tell my grandparents I can see atoms and stuff move etc. at 18 I noticed my hppd was gone. The world seemed depressing and boring. Everything seemed dim while before everything was bright and vibrant and happy. After realizing it was gone I wanted it back. A year later they are back and it's great.
TheNeurolicious no, HPPD can only be the result of hallucinogebic substance use. There obv can be symptoms without having ever used drugs, but they are from anothet cause and way less intense than actual hppd. I had some symtoms too before I tried drugs, but the difference is gigantic
TheNeurolicious thats really interesting, and the implication is, that People are born with a preform of these intense optics and visuals rapidly moving and color changing and complex structured and with ancient symbols, at least thats how I and other people who have severe hppd most likely see it, doesnt matter what drugs were used in the past. So we had this exact same thing only less severe and from birth. Where does it come from then? Why are these so similar to most people? I do agree with your theory, but havent ever heard of it. Have you any links or papers where this is explained and proven?
@@Ravi-pd2tj Right, they can't be considered HPPD, but I am curious as to why they thought they had it. If I had to guess, it would probably be a self-diagnosis.
Faszinating. Never researched it. After i took alot of lsd for a longer period i noticed the sky beeing static (another comment mentioned static, perfect example for me) i was kind of sad to potentialy never see the sky again normally. That was 10 years ago, and it mostly went away. Hang in there folks :)
This video is incredibly informative and thanks to it, I’ve been able to recognize the symptoms and how to manage them, and it’s just made things so much better for me. Thank you🙏🏼
For anyone struggling with HPPD, there is a way to help yourself, but it's not nearly as simple as medicating or wishing the symptoms away. This way is through the use of mindfulness meditation and yogic practices. I've suffered from HPPD for a little over 2 years now originating from two separate 25-I-Nbome and 25-X uses/experiences. My symptoms visually, have slightly worsened since I had found out what happened to me, exacerbated by slight MDMA and cannabis abuse. The Depersonalization and Disassociation(the worse part) I've only just learnt to deal wit this past year and function around. Not saying that for 2 years I couldn't function, for only those I chose to tell about my condition knew what I was going through. But to say, I can now realise how much for a fucking bubble I was leaving in. A bubble coated in purplely rainbow static and breathing patterns, filled with existential anxiety and the consistent question of my very existence. *such fun* This bubble(a metaphor) only just properly popped towards the beginning of 2018 for the first time. How? Through the use of mindfulness meditation and yoga. I started practicing in 2017 and for a year now I've done 30minutes of yoga and 45minuets of mindfulness meditation each morning. This has essentially removed all feelings of Depersonalization, Derealisation and Disassociation, while feeling happier, wiser and healthier than I ever had before. While my unique HPPD vision remains, the purplely rainbow static and breathing patterns in my visual field are still with me, but don't faze me in the slightest anymore and mainly go unnoticed unless I choose to directed my awareness towards it. I feel like I've now, for the first time since the Nbome trips have grounded myself by into my own head and body, and no longer live outside my myself like I use to feel. I can even smoke weed again without feeling like I'm balls deep in a bad acid trip. I now get next to no anxiety from it like I use to. With all this said. The best way to improve your HPPD symptoms would to abstain from any psychoactive substance use and to mix that with the meditation and yoga. But for a lot of us, through all the torment of this condition can not put down those drugs we do or used to love so much. So I would highly recommend these meditative practices, especially if you are one who is struggle with putting down the substances. I can now smoke weed, drink and even trip on psychedelics(only traditional, fuck Nbome and other RC's off) again without any usually effect or worsing of my condition visually or mentally, although I would ultimately recommend sobriety for I could be playing fire. *I am sorry for this long read. I hope it can help anyone struggling with this condition to better there life. Regardless it will always get better so try not to stress yourself out too much. Thank you :)
OK this sounds like what my gf is going through. She has been going through this for like 3 years now and I don't know what to do. When we were living in NH she was doing better wasn't drinking and it seemed to kind of fade. but now we live back in Chicago in the city and she's drinking and its like she's not there. Like she doesn't feel sane she keeps calling herself crazy. She says she cant stop thinking. She is always saying sorry and questioning herself. And spacing out and answering questing slightly late and I'm not sure what to do but its really starting to scare me. She doesn't want to do drugs but she does have a drinking problem I would say. And we do smoke weed. What can I do to help I'm running out of option and I'm not going to just leave her because I can see the pain on her face and that she's scared and its really fucking with me.. And nobody else will take her serious and all her old friends thinks she's off now. I just want her to have a fulfilling life and not like she's not here. Any tips would be amazing. Was it just yoga or are you taking vitamins change your diet? I'm willing to do anything
@@linofragoso6968 Ok ya she has already come to the point where she is living with it. But I appreciate the info. Thats pretty much what I have been thinking instead of the over the counter pill route.
@@roundtrip385 its a matter of hanging in there ,the brain heals if it is given the space to do so , i understand why she drinks , it does block it somewhat , weed is very veryh bad for it , she has to keep reminding herself , its just the drugs. Having support also helps alot
I get flashbacks a lot, but only on demand. I can also get a beyond-view glimpse of someone else's personal view. Could be imaginary, but very convincing.
This comment section has taught me a lot about myself. I need to make a video to explain my experience. Im self diagnosing here, but am positive I have Borderline Schizophrenic Disorder (family history). A basic overview is as follows. Summer 2002 I consumed Magic Mushrooms 10ish times with friends. 2.5 Gram dose would typically give me a level 3 trip, I am a lightweight, where as many of my peers would just get a solid buzz and see tracers, I would be full blown tripping balls. The last time I did mush, I voluntarily hospitalized myself at the start of my peak(2 hours in). Life background. Depressed low self esteem, suicidal ideation started at 13, thoughts of it even as a child. 2001 hit me hard,9/11. Actually tried to end it in my “sleep” (“broke” my own neck in the headboard cubby of my bed, the vertebrate 20 years later is still visibly shifted), was paralyzed for about 2 minutes, took me about 8 to roll Halfway onto the floor and stand up. I was so f***ing mad, went to school fighting back tears all day and didn’t say a word,it was very painful, I just glared and moaned/grunted at people. Heavy weed use and drinking throughout the year, I sort of became decent to be around again by the end of the school year, the summer I did the mush. (People, if you have mental health issues, drugs will typically make those issues more pronounced) The bad trip. Typical bad trip in a hospital setting, injected with muscle relaxant and strapped to a table, with my torso at a slight incline. I just stared at the ceiling gasping and crying for 6 hours watching “black rain” rain down, that was it - at the time horrifying. I have since more life experience at 36 and have experienced scarier shit, but something about that trip man, literally just black miniature comets with tails raining down fucking endlessly. That bad trip put me into psychosis for 2 years.( I think, this was a very messed up time in my life with OOB experiences and visits from entities)( I became functional after 3 months though, like 2 word responses instead of 1, and actually spent more than 5 minutes outside of my bed). The paranoia (thankfully) went away after 13 years. I still have the residue and recognize the triggers though. It was at this point that my HPPD became “normal”. I just learned 2 months ago that tinnitus isn’t normal, I thought everybody has that. Thankfully my tinnitus is just there, I don’t get attacks too often. ( you know when the pitch starts screaming so loud and ramping in tone it almost stun locks you, that only happens rarely). I’m not practicing meditation/exercise/healthy eating/ and still not the healthiest relationships in life. I’m not giving up, I just took myself off risperidone again, but this last time was messed. A lot of hallucinations ( thankfully only when trying to fall asleep). The worst of which is: you know the feeling where you wake up from a nightmare screaming, but are barely yelping or even can’t scream? It’s that feeling in REVERSE. I’m almost asleep, then bam I feel like my body is getting sucked into a nightmare, and then I get jolted awake before I enter. It’s fucking hell, because sleep deprivation is a GAURAnteed psychotic episode for me nowadays. (40 hours typically is when I break). But I survived. Right HPPD. I’ve found over the years that multivitamins and healthy eating all at once makes Color’s really vivid, and the tracers and sprites are a lot more Zoomy. Intense exercise typically exasperates the HPPD for a few hours. After 20 years of tracers and lights/sprites (flashes of Color or black) I’m used to it. The visual snow sucks and contributes to depression, but I saw snow as a child, so maybe I was already Schizophrenic to an extent. (Borderline - mind you - I can tell if I’m hallucinating). I would say stimulants can make tinnitus symptoms worse as well. Caffeine/Nicotine in my case. I had tachycardia quite a bit and still get it occasionally. Dehydration and sensitive skin is probably a factor. Mine felt like ticks not worms or maggots. The scariest tactile sensation I get from time to time is when your lying in bed and it feels like all the skin touching the bed side starts twisting and crawling. Does anyone else get this? Scares the actual shit out of me! Does anyone else get this? Seriously, it’s so flipping terrifying that I jump from bed turn on the lights and walk it off. Sometimes it’s only a small portion of skin that does it though and I don get jump scared, but sit there feeling it growing, until the heebie jeebies kick in and I ditch the bed and frantically check for pilling/crumbs/bugs, but yet again, nothing is there. I’ve learned to cope with these symptoms by ever evolving my own mental prison, it seems to be working to just accept it. I need to put some effort into trying to be healthier, consistently, and see if my HPPD and tinnitus improve at all. Oh another symptom I get is when I’m driving at night I see shadows ALL the time. Usually it’ll be a sign or utility box, but so many times in my peripheral or just outside of centre vision , it looks like people. I learned about HPPD via the internet sometime in 2003 ish and informed my brain doctor I had the condition, I also found erowid . org , where I studied about drugs. I was on risperidone( a small dose though) and still ended up starting to develop mammary glands, yeah, had these disc like hard clumps under my nipples for a few months they were slightly inflamed, the inflammation and minor swelling went away but the left side lump stayed for about a year and a half or 2 and just kept shrinking. I thought that might be relevant, as many of you have taken that medication. There was a class action lawsuit around 8 years after it’s release, to compensate males who had developed breasts, yeah. This is not a well thought out post, but that is some of the stuff I went through. I’m not sure if HPPD will get better for you or I, but it DOES get easier to live with. Good luck! Make healthy decisions? Oh get help if you need it, just the act of it does wonders even if the help you get isn’t helpful much.
@@raytrujillo7326 Wow I forgot I wrote this. Kind of scary. What a strange time to be notified. Thank you, I'm focusing on a healthy attitude now and just began a deliberate self improvement journey yesterday. Wish you the best!
@@Mcrobrob1 yea man i feel for you this last saturday me and my friend tripped on about 1.5 grams of shrooms and i never knew he was in such a terrible place so much past trauma he never had mentioned he almost killer himself with pills when i wasn’t with him for a couple minutes it was a night of hell for him and me and we talked just today about him having HPPD symptoms but he is fully functional. nobody deserves to go through that it’s such a broken world we live in my friend is such a good guy never had bad intentions since the 2 years ive known him. we just have to make the best out of our lifetime on earth ✌️❤️
Romeo Lombardo I have had hppd as long as I remember, I've had it before I used psychedelics too. It was clinically tested too, so I know I have had it my whole life.
Pigsrock93 I got the same but drugs did make the symptoms worse. Did you notice that your symptoms became (permanently) worse after using psychedelics.
yasin3210 Psychedelics made the symptoms more noticeable, but it's like a dream when I start noticing them without trying to. Throughout my day, it's easier to try to ignore the visuals, than finding ways to stop it.
I have depersonalization disorder from weed. It almost always happens when im tired, bored, or feel unconfortable. I've realized that its just my brain over-reacting and learned to control it. Meditation seems to help a lot.
HPPD has ruined my life. It’s that bad. I can’t see how someone who genuinely has HPPD can claim it hasn’t. It’s been 2 and half years since it started and it has persisted since it first began and has no signs of stopping. I can’t work. I can’t drive. I can barely function around my house. I have crippling anxiety and depression because of it. I see things that aren’t there, which I know aren’t there, but it doesn’t change the fact that I still see them.
i heard psychedelics have the power to reconnect/rewire your brain... and while using it, some parts of the brain communicate with other parts, that usually don't talk with each other... if this is true, maybe psychedelics can wire these party constantly together so that they do strange things
little dose of mushroom cure my hhpd and my flashback while smokign and yes flashback si9 fucking real i got that fire 220ug white fluff roland 303 blotter the best of the best
That isnt just a theory but a fact to an extent. Isnt known if that causes HPPD but it is known that psychedelics do indeed permanently rewire your brain.
Here's my theory on why this happens to people. There are mutations in the SERT transporter known to be involved with depressive and anxiety disorders. These are gain of functions phenotypes, meaning the transport moves serotonin from the synapse back to the presynaptic vesicle at a greater rate than the typical allele. This means less serotonin jumps the gap to activate serotonin receptors. When a nueral pathway is activated, a compound called neurotrophin is released. This causes the strengthing of the pathway that is activated. The lack of serotonin leads to a lack of neuroplasticity, which is the cause of many of the symptoms we associate with depression and anxiety. Specifically, anxiety seems to be related to the 5-ht1 receptors and depression to the 5-ht2 but this is an extreme over simplification. Anyway, when you expose someone to a serotonin agonist it will have a biased interaction to different serotonin receptors, these will also have differing downstream effects from the different cascades that follow. The pathways activated by each of these cascades will then be strengthened by the resulting release of neurotrophin. When someone with one of the aforementioned mutated SERT's has this happen, they will have a more significantly biased change in neural formation because the lower rate, overall, of serotonin activating receptors and causes the downstream pathways to be activated. This bias could even further extend if one of the specfic serotonin receptors has a mutation that allows for prolonged ligand interaction times. Something like an amino acid being swapped out in the 5-ht2a receptros allowing the 'lid' that covers the diethylamine of LSD, and n-benzyl-2-methoxy moeities of the NBOMe compounds, being able to conform further over the ligand. Thus, this leads to prolong activation of the pathways for these specific two classes of compounds, which both seem more signicantly linked to this disorder than most psychedelics. The need for these two mutated genes for this effect to happen would also explain is relative rarity when compared to the rather large number of people who possess gain-of-function SERT genetypes.
I have a couple of questions. Can you get this mutation from mdma and mushroom use? And is thus mutation going to be fixed by your brain after time or is there a treatment?
this. i needed this. it came from extended and dramatic amounts of cannabis use all day long every day. it hit me all at once one night and i’ve never been the same. i’ve changed entirely as a person. i don’t even really know who i am. i can’t feel a lot. my anxiety is literally crippling. derealization and panic fill my everyday life and yet i can’t stop using cannabis. or anything else. this gives me a starting place and hopefully an end. i want to be myself again and be happy to do things. thank you for posting about something that not many others have. i needed this.
Same for me. I retired and my cannabis consumption went through the roof. Ive switched to more cbd flower during the day to see if it helps. Still tryin to figure it all out.
I think, I might have had an hppd after doing 250ug lsd. The colors were really bright and vivid all the time and it slowly started to fade away after about a month of time håd passed. It was actually a very cool experience for me.
Sorry that's not hppd, depending on body size those could've been really intense tracers, lsd and other hallucigens stay in your system for a really long time so it's most likely just an "afterburn" of whatever it is you took, hppd will also keep the effects of the drugs more intense through a much longer time essentialy, so you'll still see breathing and fractals, the bright spots were prolly tracers hope it helps even after 4 yrs
As somebody with pretty intense HPPD the combination that has helped me the most is Lamotrigine and gabapentin. I find that it doesn’t make the visual distortion go away but it almost dulls my brains fear of them. So while they are still present I’m able to live my life without anxiety or distress. I’d say the gabapentin had the largest impact on the reduction of anxiety.
I've had HPPD like symptoms for years, due to my obsessive LSD use, however never looked at it as all that bad of a thing. Flashbacks can be alarming at first, sure, but ultimately they don't get in the way all that much, and just make reality a bit more interesting... HOWEVER, on February 10th of 2017, I accidentally dosed an obscene and still undetermined amount of LSD, and found my self in what could be called a full LSD psychosis--in constant flashback of the experience--for about 3 weeks afterwards. After that, the symptoms began slowly SLOWLY fading... but still to this day, have not gone away completely. At this point, over a year and a half later, there are many physical and emotional triggers for my HPPD symptoms, but the actual condition lay only in my background. No longer is my constant visual experience altered (to the extent it at one point was, I can deal with where I am now), however certain things--such as exerting a lot of physical energy (exercise), overeating/underrating, oversleeping/undersleeping, most any type of drug use especially psychedelics and cannabis, or even just extreme emotions, such as depression and anxiety--are one to trigger symptoms to re-arise. Excited to see how our collective understanding of this condition grows, as it has literally ran my entire life for so so so long, and yet details about it remain a mystery...
I was horribly depressed and kind of losing my mind and hearing voices that wasn't mine and seeing white shadows all around me in the corner of eye but then my friend started hanging out with every weekend feeding me acid for a month and it all just went away and I've been happy and sane ever sense .
I haven’t used LSD in years and it’s been about a year since I’ve used mushrooms and I’ve had symptoms ever since. I feel like I’ve permanently changed my perception on life with drug use. I feel more self aware to everything. Sometimes it’s nice and sometimes it can be frightening
Great Channel.... I developed HPPD after one VERY, VERY intense lsd experience. (I've done lsd before this). I believe the dosage was rather dangerous and ridiculous because I felt the onset of effects within 15 minutes of ingestion. I could "see" the LSD in my body... I had profound physical hallucinations, i.e, my arms were across the room or were bent into impossible angles. My body was either not present or shaped like a crystal lattice. The worst part was the feeling that I had on my tongue where I put the blotter.. I could visualize the square. I was experiencing/hallucinating severe pain in my mouth and neck and the pain tasted and looked completely metallic. It was pain like I've never felt before. The pain was golden and bright like the sun. Within that first hour, I had complete ego death. My reality and my sense of self was gone. Eradicated. My sense of understanding that I could possibly be alive, was COMPLETELY gone. Fuck... I didn't even mention the visuals because my entire visual field was replaced with fractal imagery, visions from the past or possibly from the future. I was technically blinded by the visuals.. The effects persisted for almost 18 hours... The next week I felt normal. Then I started to notice that everything, even while 100% sober, looked extremely psychedelic... The trees looked psychedelic and mystical and seemed to be animate. My head felt empty and I could picture my thinking patterns in the form of shapes.... Every noise had so much reverb, any moving objects would leave tracers, objects would grow and shrink, walls would continue to flow and any pattern would manifest faces and images... Anytime and every time I smoked the sacred herb, it simply nudged me into a very psychedelic headspace.... With the same body load I felt whilst tripping. I felt as if I was out of body.... It's been at least 15 years since I had that experience and I still have the same feelings... I intuit that the visual symptoms I'm still experiencing were caused by the intense visuals.. I believe the visual changes are now permanent due to the extreme visual derangement caused by the Lsd... My vision has never recovered. Everything is VERY psychedelic and mystical feeling. The echoes I hear have Improved somewhat. But I no longer have panic attacks and I can learn again.. Lol so that's good, right?
Neurolicious yeah I agree. I along with a homie dropped 1300ug cuz we thought we'd just trip immense sacc but fuck man he broke himself for a bit lol it was too much for him. For me oh man like when I peaked my vision was blinded by fuckin patterns n shit my body straight dissolved shit was sooo intense. I had done 800ug before and thought 1000 wouldn't be that different but boiiii was I wrong lmao. Tripped for over 20 hours total and afterwards I still felt like I was trippin. Scared tf outta me n showed me that psychedelics aren't fuckin toys. At low doses its dope to drop and have fun but when you drop more shit starts to fuck with you and its time to be serious.
Jesse Montano The metallic taste, that could have been an indicator that it wasnt LSD. From what it sounds like in your experience, you were given some Bromo, passed off as LSD. Or it could have been one of countless other chems, theres no telling. Get a test kit. Theyre affordable, and straightforward to use.
I just read these comments. It was definitely L. It was actually much longer than 15 year's. It was during the era when the grateful dead were still around.... I suppose my description was vague. The tab had no taste. It was just a sensation on my tongue. The tabs were soaked and still moist. There were ten sheets individually wrapped in foil. And that was wrapped in foil. Inside a jar filled with dry ice. The large jar was also wrapped in foil with a nice layer of dry ice sandwiched between the outer most layer of foil and the glass of the jar!!!! I don't know how many mics I ingested. Only god and the chemist know!!! I hallucinated all kinds of flavors.. it was not fun. The square I thought was there was either metallic and it caused searing death pain. But no, the tab was flavorless. Just a sensation that there was definitely something there. But it had no flavor. Just a tingle. Then.... I lost my mind.. When I was coming down and I was piecing my self back together, I inadvertently reintegrated in Pele, the famous soccer player. I was 15 year's old. Had older, way older dead head friends. I've never, since then, felt L like that. It was otherworldly. It definitely changed me for the better. I have since then been unable to absent mindedly follow the mainstream flow. I was unable to just be a sheeple.. blah. It doesn't matter, really... Have a nice year. Happy holidays to u guys, albeit kinda early....
I used to have it in a way that I felt like was extremely bad. Once I got clean from the drugs, it almost completely went away over several months. Mine was so bad I would see full blown psychedelic imagery like one would on an acid trip, but less intense than a usual dose. I lost a ton of weight and became super sensitive to everything. I had to quit weed due to CHS and a major hospital visit and finally a doctor had told me the duo of disorders I was being beaten by. Someone mentioned wishing they could experience the sky or the ocean the same way they used to. I totally feel that
I think a year without touching any substance will revert the hppd effects by 99.8%.Some people get it worst than others and it takes years for them to recover.maybe younger people below 25 will get it much harder than older.
@@beavisbutthead6063 You still feeling it? and do you have symptom of psychosis because my GF is like lost all the time. She can't focus anymore she feels serperated and is fixated on the universe like she feels like she's hurting it. And I don't want to leave her in her time of need . but I don't understand whats going on myself
This is the reason people shouldn't trip more than once every month and watch their dosage. Also people with depression and anxiety are apparently more likely to experience symptoms so you gotta be careful even when the substance isn't physically harmful
I have suffered from HPPD for 25 years. The onset was straight after my first LSD trip taken when i was 13/14 years old. I took the acid around 6.p.m. and finally came down around 6.a.m. The next day my normal vision was strongly distorted. My friend who was tripping with me and took an equal dose was fine the next day. In 1993 and at such a young age i had discuss my issue with and it was only through a BBC documentary about military veterans that i realised that many of these unfortunate soldiers suffered with the same affliction as i have. I realise that after 25 years HPPD is with me for the duration of this life although its not the end of the world. On another note, im a strong advocate for many psychedelics but LSD is not for me. Iboga, Ayahuasca, Rape, Kambo., Bufo alvarious, DMT, and psycillocibin have all had profoundly beneficial impacts on my life and if anybody wanted further information inn relation to any of these medicines free to contact me
Alot of you shouldn't be taking anything after reading these comments some of you wrote. HPPD is not fun and seeing the world in a new light. The visuals from Hppd are not enjoyable ones and don't end for up to a year in some cases. Thanks drugclassroom for the all the honest info you are doing a good thing.
Suicide Tuesday you realize that if you use psychedelics right you most of the time never catch it right? You sound just as ignorant as the stupid fucks who banned it because its users didn't align with the warmonger attitude to fund America wealth even further
No shit thwag drake. You a thug that likes drake? Scary. If you read the fucking comments people are saying how it would be cool to get HPPD or how they have because they took L once and now see the world different. Most are probably lying. I have a friend who has had it for a year. I aint saying people shouldn't be allowed to take what they want. I love psychedelics. So go back to playing your video games in your parents house and bitch about American wealth just like all yuppie teens do. When you don't even realize you are the problem. Thawg Drake you big thug gangsta your a fake ass bitch.
As a very experienced psychonaut, I have experienced both flashbacks and HPPD. For me, what differentiates the two is a feeling of a "body high" that you get when the trip is really starting to take off and flashbacks are most often a sort of mental experience that sometimes include hallucinations. In one case, I was experiencing what I thought was an HPPD episode when it devolved into a flu-like illness that lasted for a few days. Almost as if my body was responding to the viral invasion with an HPPD experience complete with tracers,dilated pupils, and an inability to focus on any objects arranged in serried rows, like steps or buildings fenceposts. Just though I'd share.....
@@WeCannotEattheCow Im working on my masters in psychology at City University of New York,I have a life. It just may be a bit more multi dimensional than yours but fulfilling. Being judgemental is the hallmark of a small mind.
I got an intense flashback from rhabdomyolysis while in jail. This was 10 years ago when I was bad off on all drugs and I basically destroyed my body with meth. While I was detoxing in jail I started working out and did way too many body squats while my leg muscles were completely not ready for it. I felt like I started tripping and I was pissing coffee, which when I looked it up after I got out, is protein from muscles being broken down and becoming toxic to your kidneys. But after it happened I was sick laying in my bunk and had intense visuals that mimicked the various psychedelics I had taken in the years prior. I'm surprised I survived because the guards didn't believe I was sick at all until they finally dragged my as to medical and examined my dark urine. Scary for sure I'm glad I made it out of there and glad to be sober 10 years later.
@rayramos8435 For someone who's an experienced psychonaut, you sure sound pretentious and egotistical. The guy didn't even say anything bad and you got all defensive and shot him down. Big "my parents pay for my university and I think psychedelics make me smarter" vibes. I'd bet the tabs were bought with daddy's money as well, right?
@@Trahzy ha ha. I will tell you one thing I learned at university was a concept called attribution bias. That is where one attributes malice or negative intent where there is none or based on one's (often projected) perceptions of the other person. Your comment made me do an actual spit take it fell so far from the mark. I'm a Puerto Rican from NYC'S Lower East Side where I lived until I was sent to an orphanage until I was 18. There was no daddy less a tuition paying one. I grew up on the street and at one point ended up in Attica. I got cleaned up went back to school( that I'm still paying for) and now work as a care manager helping people live healthy lives. In normal conversations people may sometimes offer differing experiences not as a way to denigrate their experience but to float the idea that perhaps not everything is black or white,that there may be many shades of grey.
just had a flashback/episode yesterday that led to me hearing voices and some other crazy shit, this video was beyond helpful in helping me understand this thank you so much
I am glad the video was helpful, sorry to hear about your experience. Hearing voices is much less common with HPPD and it is not considered a typical symptom. That's not to say it is impossible for HPPD to cause it, but because it is rare (at most) I would recommend keeping an eye on symptoms like that and if you continue experiencing auditory hallucinations it would be worthwhile to mention it to a doctor. Normal HPPD symptoms like temporary visual distortions are largely benign if they do not cause you distress, but hearing voices is often associated with other conditions that are worth being treated if it keeps happening.
The Drug Classroom yeah usually my flashbacks are just a few seconds or something of me zoning out cuz the floor is wiggling or stuff like that but this time it was like i was in a full trip, def will be watching and managing my symptoms and stuff but it’s the first time i’ve ever had auditory hallucinations so if it keeps up i’ll mention it to a doctor for sure
Very interesting video as always. This is the first professional video I have seen on this topic. I haven't seen it discussed anywhere else. Iv'e never experienced HPPD but it's interesting to learn about it.
I saw three of my friends and I was in a different room and I heard them talking 2 weeks after taking mdma it was the scariest thing I've ever experienced
I believe I had this between the ages of 16-21. I didnt want to go to a Doctor out of the fear of being diagnosed crazy. It led me to self-medicate by drinking, but it eventually got better over time. I still cant and dont touch drugs, though. Good luck if you think you have this! It can get better
I had lingering depersonalization, and panic attacks and would feel like I was seeing myself in third person, like my voice was an echo and I was far away and everything sort of “lagged” I felt like I was far away and not my body, it was so weird, it slowly went away. Never doing shrooms again lol
WOW THANK U this would come and go but mostlyI had it for years,and it made it hard to see at night due to depth perception-i would see walls breathing but rarely-green lights would glow brighter -bit the worst part was how ditached my emotions would get it was like i was in some strange place mentality that I couldn’t quite explain to others I would just say im having a flash back to ppl close to me but it was so subtle at times and so overpowering at others.I never reported it I didn’t even know it was a thing.I realized if i was tired or or at night it seemed to be much more stonger.i can go on and on
i think the age of starting to trip and use psychedelics is the most important factor for HPPD. Having an experience like that at a younger age can really derail a brains growth into adopting "hallucinogenic code" aka hppd
I had this after I tried LSA, took around 5 seeds of bhw and often had an aura without migraine, it was hard to read off of white paper and white backgrounds in general and I also had a lot of floaters, I often had panic attacks and I believe this was due to my anxious personality (literally thought I was going blind). This was my first psych experience other than salvia and it has sort of put me off. My HPPD has finally ended after around a year.
Thank God this video exists. After an awful lsd trip (super fake shit an one of the guys I was trippin with, who is not a nice person to be around in the first place, had an allergic reaction to something we were eating and we thought we would have to take him to the hospital and he almost died right in front of me in the bathtub while we're tripping!) I was seeing static patterns in everything for about 4 months and sometimes I still do and the association of the patterns to my bad trip felt like ptsd. Anytime I would be in certain lighting or around a similar environment to my bad trip it would restart all over again and I would see the patterns in everything and it made life so so so difficult. I stopped talking to anyone that did psychs after that so I never really got to relate to anyone on the matter so this video is very helpful. Bless you brutha❤
Paragraphs and words still kind of in a weird way "light up" when I look at them and carpets and rough ceilings still move a teeny weeny bit. If I think too much about my visual perception my brain will go in to manual vision mode and it will feel like I'm looking at life through a vr headset
I believe the quickest and best way to rid yourself of hppd is to not do any drugs that effect your mental or visual state and tricking your brain in to not paying attention to it. Hppd has made social interaction kind of awkward at times but it goes away after a while if you're smart about it
I get this from sleep deprivation and my history with hallucinogenic drug use is pretty minimal, weak acid once and 1gr of shrooms 2x, all well over 20yrs ago. I was a daily weed smoker for 3 yrs back then, but never experienced much hallucinations from it. I'm relatively confident it's mostly connected to general anxiety.
My theory is that it’s a form of autoimmune encephalitis. Your brain doesn’t know what to do with the substance and creates an immune response that causes inflammation and wreaks havoc on your brain for a short period of time. The immune response might target healthy cells not knowing what to attack. This would explain several things, such as the state of mind people are in when taking the substance. If you were already sick, stressed, sleep deprived, eating poorly, or anything that causes inflammation, that might affect how your body reacted to taking the substance. It would explain the odd headaches in the back of the head and other strange migraines a lot people report During sleep your brain clears out toxins and heals your body in all kinds of ways which could be why sleep seems to be so beneficial and even curative. It would explain why so many people who suffer from HPPD also suffer from autoimmune encephalitis symptoms, MS like symptoms, and other symptoms. Lot of people affected by HPPD claim healthy lifestyle including diet, exercise, meditation, ect.. helped alleviate or even essentially cure their condition depending on the severity. That approach would reduce inflammation and allow the brain to start healing itself. The biggest step towards healing is probably gonna be slowing getting to the right dose of lamotrigine for you, while taking every measure you can to reduce inflammation and get good sleep.
I had a vision waving last for weeks after using acid, just to understand that this "waviness" is just normal for me. I have astigmatism and my brain just learned to ignore it, but after taking LSD it just "forgot" about that.
I've had an urge to wanna try shrooms but this keeps me pausing, esp. given it seems you _don't_ necessarily have to abuse them like an addict to get it. A trip sounds fun, but I want it to be _over,_ 'ya know!
I took 60 dry grams of shrooms and it's been a year, I still see static, I feel out of place. I'm often aware that I'm looking through 2 eyes so staring at things becomes awkward to me, things often move in the corners of my eyes and wave while I stare at them, I hear a constant ringing. Shits wack
I definitely understand what you been by you’re aware that you’re looking through two eyes, it’s really hard for me to explain that to my doctors and therapists but it’s extremely weird, like looking at my hands & my body is super weird
I had Visual Snow and Tracers for 2 weeks after a 14x normal dose of 3C-P. During the trip I was blinded by merging colours of surfaces. No shapes, edges or definitions, just splodges of colour. 3C-P is a phenethylamine if i am not mistaken.
I want HPPD. If you have something that you really want in your life, spend lots of time thinking about it. The more you think the more ideas will pop up the more creative your gonna start to get. Your subconscious mind doesn't care if your vision is crazy. It doesnt care if you dont know how to do it. When you see a thing clearly in your mind, your creative "success mechanism" within you takes over and does the job much better than you could do it by conscious effort or willpower. A different psychedelic from a different planet every nanosecond. All sorts of dreams are possible. The human nervous system cannot tell the difference between an "actual" experience and an experience imagined vividly and in detail. Synthesize "experience," to literally create experience, and control it, in the laboratory of our minds. A vision is a very emotional image, the most powerful image that you can come up with for yourself at this time. This vision will become like a hallucination in other peoples mind and this could be the cause of them creating extraordinary things.
I also had mild HPPD in my early childhood (13-14) which was induced by weed. Oddly enough, I can smoke now and be just fine and have no visual distortions.
N.W.F wtf cus I have it rn and it’s starting to go away for me did u do lsd all the time ? I only did it once mayb that’s why it lasted so long for you
HPPD is the quintessence of supposedly irreparable damage to brain fibers following a terrible trip. Thankfully, good nutrition, lamictal and benzodiazepines are the way out. Power to all warriors of the light! 💖
I had snow vision or enhanced squiggly lines for years after. They didn’t bother me much so I just did my best to ignore everything. I’ll admit it was scary when it first happened
5 year kratom user. When I withdraw I get this. Been trying to quit and no joke i feel like im tripping all day. Im talkimg heavy hppd. Feels like a tab is kicking in. Loved kratom until now. Shit sucked the fun out of life. Be safe everyone
I Developed hppd like 4 days ago. I was anxious as fuck, had panic attacks, but I managed to deal with it and now it seems that I am enjoying this unstoppable trip. You just have to get over with it, there are a lot of people who have more serious problems:)
i did hawaiian baby woodrose, I couldnt throw up and i was so neasious, i just layed in the safe position incase i pass out and throw up and i was just watching my wall go absolutely bonkers, my door warping n shit, my curtains changing into light energy beams or sum shit
I used to take LSD with my mates every week, then we'd hit the bong and trip balls the whole night long, sometimes we'd inhale butane to give the hallucinations a boost up to the next level. Now, many years since, I have persistent hallucinations if I smoke weed, just simple stuff like red and green geometric patterns growing everywhere, but they don't distress me or impair me. Other friends (non LSD users) who smoke the same weed do not hallucinate from it. So I am convinced I have altered my brain permanently with LSD.
Man I've heard of people huffing butane. Shit sounds MAD intense. I imagine its probably alot like doing a whippet. I loved to mix whippets with lsd. Nitrous is probably a "healthier" alternative to butane. I understand being young and dumb I still am haha.
I also definitely feel like my brain has been permanently altered by lsd. I have visual snow and if I let my weed tolerance go down or smoke alot I start to have strong psychedelic like effects. I once thought I was gonna flush my dick down the toilet on weed alone!
The red and green visuals are exactly the same for me however it slows my perception of time way way down and im stuck in this intense time dilation where my mind is faster than my surroundings and body
Myself and two of my friends had this after taking LSD. My friend and I got figures in our periphery and my other friend saw people in his direct FOV. My symptoms went away after I stopped all drug use.
Once you understand that you're looking at the inside of your own etch A sketch, you can still play with the toy, but you'll always know what the inside of it looks like
I Have hppd. It is more noticeable when im about to go to bed and the room is pitch black. Or when im driving amd i look at the sky, there is a waving gray beyond the clouds. It always makes me remember what was told to me when i first tried lsd. "It changes the way you see the world" truthfully i wish it goes away eventually however of it does not then i have already learned to live with it.
mrisdabest2 my symptoms are always much more prevalent when I’m really tired, the room is pitch black, or I smoke weed. I feel like these are pretty common triggers and I’ve been wondering why exhaustion would trigger symptoms.
I think I have some HPPD from my extensive Dextromethrophan abuse. Whenever i look around I still get splices from corners, just like when I would be tripping on DXM.
I had a very bad trip,a bad smell and was puking,every once in a while I trip that smell again and remember the strange feeling and the green night at the time of tripping all those years ago.
I had it in the 3rd degree to point I couldn’t drive and I could never understand what was wrong with me till I figured this out I’m glad people have found this early on
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I was born with HPPD, basically. When I was a child, I would spend nights in bed watching a 8-10 second repeating pattern. These are sometimes called hypnagogic visions, but I could see them anytime. After teenage years spent eating a ton of acid, I ‘lost’ my default pattern for some years. Later, it came back and it was like seeing an old friend. I love my pattern. Blessings to all. I have HPPD and it doesn’t bother me.
@Todd Hendrix my ceiling has that popcorn texture to it and when I took 4 tabs, it started melting and revealing a slime green roof behind it. It literally looked like melting static lol, it was so trippy but awesome.
You can find more information about HPPD as well as references on the TDC website: thedrugclassroom.com/video/hallucinogen-persisting-perception-disorder-hppd/
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
The Drug Classroom you should do a video on scopolamine. I'd love to hear what you have to say about it, the wacky stories about it, and especially the science. I have no personal experience with the drug, but it comes from a plant and it sounds crazy unbelievable what people say it does to you.
The Drug Classroom
i have hppd ongoing and its veeery psychedelic as if i had just taken lsd i have some very detailed an complicated visuals but its less vivid/ bright
once i concentrate on these effects its hard to focus and concentrate but sometimes it just doesnt occur to me and i can go on in my daily live with no problems
and these visual effects have no negative impact on me
and i took 2cb a while ago and since then my visual effects when im not on anything are more intense then ever
BUT i have to add that for me to be fuckin honest its more of a skill than a disorder i can think of something like spongebob or a pink elefant and i see it and if i concentrate i can see old visual effects i once had tripping but less vivid/bright t
he brainstructure changes ... you rewire your brain when you change habits for example and for me its like the substances i take make my brain more open to rewirering or it just becomes easier to do so and lsd and 2cb gave me some hyperreal ultravivid ultra complex and detailed visual effects and i concentrated on these for a long time and what i THINK (i dunno shit) is that visual effects you have on psychedelics are different than in normal state and they are more intense and stimulating and because of that they just rewire the visual parts of the brain
on lsd the brain is under way more "electricity" i guess ... and maybe it CAN force some brains into a different way of working with visuals
but i really dont have any clue
i can without a problem distinguish reality from these effects
the visual effects from "my ongoing hppd " are more like i just bring them up from a different part of the brain (there were imagination resides) and i now can (and sometimes it just happens) overlay these visuals over my normal sight (i see the exact same visual effect when i close my eyes (only gets a lil more vivid))
hmmmmm
The Drug Classroom could you do a video on nitrazepam? with safe usage for patients and recreational users?
is there any link between age and the frequency of hppd?
Piotr Zmarzlik I would assume so many teens I know have it
HPPD is something that needs to be examined and studied closer I feel like.
SoylentGamer so does Depersonalization and derealization. However it’s difficult to study them since they both have to do with thought patterns.
Benjavaz I've had that shit for 7 years
FINAL FOREST you may want to look into age regression then. It’ll reverse any effects of psychedelics.
@@Benjavaz can you describe what that is?
HeroiX it’s basically a type of hypnotherapy in which you revert your thinking and perception to the way it was, say a year ago in order to help treat mental disorders and trauma
Psychedelics did wonders in my life. Over the course of my life, I've suffered from uncontrollable, depression, anxiety, alcohol, smoking, and illicit pills addiction. Imagine carving heavy chains for a long time and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. This is something that really needs to be used globally to help people with similar health challenges. I've been sober for 6 years and have my life back.
Congrats on your recovery. Most people don't realize that psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives.
To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.
Can you help me with a reliable source? I have suffered from years of addiction, anxiety, and severe ptsd, thinking I got my panic attacks under control, they've come back with a vengeance, and I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't. It's absolutely crippling me, I'm in Switzerland and it is hard to get a reliable source here. Really need!
Yes, Sporeville. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and addiction... Mushrooms definitely made a huge difference to why I'm clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place.
Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He's 59 & has many mental health issues plus probably CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone.
He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD knows if it is common for an obsession with violence.
I used to have severe symptoms. My secret to making them go away almost entirely... Sleep, the most useful thing to do. Start sleeping until you wake up naturally and try to do this as much as possible. Gotta let the brain repair. In a few months you'll start to feel a lot better. Meditation helps dramatically. Reading. Exercise and eating healthy are a plus but for me going to gym made it worse for some reason, all the endorphins made the symptoms more severe. Once again because I cant stress it enough... SLEEP!!!
Yep, my HPPD only starts to bother me if I'm in a bad frame of mind naturally. Most of the time it's just static and halos and I think it's quite cool enjoy it. If im currently stressed or tired though I start to get the "what if I've messed myself up forever", worrying kind of thoughts and the HPPD makes me feel disconnected.
Tl;dr: try heroin
@@villaisrael4660 lmao no
@@villaisrael4660 yar right, ima hit up ma dealer rn. Try that H u know what I mean
Yea, I had mild HPPD too and the best treatment for me was patience, no psychedelic & mdma usage and sleep. Right now I use psychedelics once every two months and ecstasy 3 times a year. I got mild HPPD again, so floaters and a kind of static overlay of my vision, but I've pretty much accepted it and just live with it. I am kinda considering completely stopping my psychedelic usage again, but I also feel like they have a positive influence on my life and my outlook..
I've had it in the past and it went away after being sober for a while. The best way to describe it is seeing psychedelic patterns when staring at something for more than a few seconds, people would become cartoon like, walls would have maya calendar patterns and objects would grow and move. At the start it was distressing and some tasks like reading were impossible but after time my brain learned to ignore the hallucinations. Its hard to imagine but I learnt to read sentences while they moved in 3d dimensions (closer and further), the thing that annoyed me the most wasn't actually the hallucinations but the lack of understanding people had. I would tell people that I hallucinate regularly and that it was because of psychedelic use but they would automatically assume I was psychotic.
I also remember that cannabis became very psychedelic once hppd had set in, and really turned into a psychedelic of its own.
The hppd gradually stopped over time but my perception never changed back to what it used to be. Although I don't hallucinate all the time now, colours are more vibrant and reality looks more like a dream. I can also hallucinate if I concentrate hard enough. To be quite honest I prefer reality this way, it doesn't effect my life in anyway and I would compair my present reality to a minecraft texture pack. I haven't met anyone who has had a similar change of perception but friends from my psychedelic past seem to agree with me on some aspects. The lack of understanding and the stigma of it being psychosis prevents people from talking openly about it
how long did it take for the dppd to go away and also do you still use cannabis ?
@@ryan4668 it didn't go away completely but it took 1 year of not smoking weed for it not to be noticeable. I still smoke weed now although if I hadn't done a tolerance break I dont think i would off been able too continue
@@oliverfinnegan3395 damn at least you’ve found peace . if you don’t mind me asking how often do you smoke now?
This is great. I find things to be very similar for me, also. I hallucinate in the sense that the environment "breathes" from time to time, red and orange colours appear to be significantly brighter and dominant, greens appear to be the most vivid in how many gradients of green I can see, but I relate to you saying about the relative impact on your life. Takes adjusting, but I'm not sure psychosis would be how I'd describe it. As you stated, that stigma does prevent exploring other discussions.
@@ryan4668 2-3 joints on the weekends
HPPD was not fun after a bad trip. It really felt like my brain was fried and I was terrified. I remember an instance where I was was sitting at the table and I was listening to fridge buzz. After a few seconds, I was hearing conversations, laughter - all of which I couldn't interpret the context of, and right before I was able to snap out of it, it was angry yelling voices. There were so many instances like that. I'll never forget that fear.
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I’ll never forget my bad trip either have not taken acid or any psychedelic sense oct 31 2020 I had things come threw my walls seen triple 6 upside down crosses had demons in my room and the voices and like 7 people screaming in my head and I could hear things talking to me when I listened to videos I could hear really creepy things in the background and the pich I’m peoples voices went up and down like terrified me so bad I was up for days and for over a month I was a shell of a person I still don’t know what to believe I don’t know what was real I remember so little and so much from it it feels like a fever dream..
@@Azzy5k you probably had datura
@@nikicarrie4071 no idea but it’s not like I was new to the substance or those very same tabs from the same batch I took 4 of them one time on a school night and tripped in school they were “double dosed”
But on that night with my bad trip only took 2 I went to the ER flushed ever drug and pill bottle and whatever else I had that night in a panic I thought I was going to die on the car ride there I seen my death 100 times from car crash to overdoseing on something on my bed whatever happened that night fucked me up for life I still to this day have HPPD and see static/ visual snow 24/7 and halos every now and then.
@@Azzy5k oh wow ❤️ that’s why I’m scared to try thank you. Mabe they should have an expiration date idk of that has anything to do with it thank you 🙏🏽
At my school anyone whose used psychedelics, most have reported some form of HPPD and all said it changed the way Cannabis affected them
Nate Kratz it's changed cannabis for me too
Nate Kratz ...really?....I have known thousands of people who, often, took heroic doses of LSD, mushrooms, peyote buttons and so on ....AND none ever had any such thing as hppd or flashbacks.....this is over 40 years........WEIRD that you know multiple,people who have had this problem?
Remlat Zargonix I also had this, after doing acid a few times weed is way more intense now.
My friends reported the same thing idk
"Weird how your personal experience is different from mine, huh?" Um no, it's actually quite the opposite.
Nate Kratz same
In my experience, the only thing that actually reduces HPPD is coming to terms with the disorder.
I’ve had it for a while, probably 10 years. I never had a negative thought about it, it is what it is. My girlfriend developed it and she is not having a good time. I catch her testing to see just how bad it is at the moment. And she’s like “don’t you see like that?” And I’m like yeah, but I don’t care. I took drugs, this is what happens.
@@eyejohnson dude you don’t still trip right
@@eyejohnson that is exactly how I feel wow like literally 💯
@@eyejohnson probably like 5 years for me lol
@@coloradocuz7432 a couple times a year. I’ve opted for less frequent but higher dosage. It’s only really bad for a couple days after.
Thank you for shedding light on this matter! So hard to find good information about HPPD.
If you would like to skip to a specific section, here are the timestamps:
Definition & Diagnosis - 00:58
Onset - 02:21
What It's Not - 03:03
Categories of HPPD/flashbacks - 03:59
Most Common Drugs - 05:58
History - 06:48
How Common Is It - 08:41
Risk Factors - 10:23
Triggers - 10:59
Mechanisms - 11:51
Treatment - 14:02
What To Do If You Have Symptoms - 15:50
thank you so much for doing these videos. i will never try LSD because how often i hear it causing HPPD.
@@tomfoolery8100 you should still try it. It's worth it
@@eratzzombie8450 the thing is i might be susceptible to HPPD. my eyes are already in pretty bad shape and when i go from a light to a dark room i see very slight visual snow effects despite never having done any psychedelics besides edible weed.
looking to try ayahuasca and shrooms someday but thats about it.
Well my psychiatrist and neurologist have never heard of this disorder. I have NEVER done any drugs.
I’ve had visual snow since I as far back as I can remember. I have had the weird cartoon images and animations closed-eye hallucinations at bedtime occasionally since being a little kid. Then in June 2020 I had what might of been an encephalitis episode and have had almost all of the symptoms listed in this video since. It was first brushed off as schizophrenia, the suspected to be encephalitis, then all my results came back normal, and they’re back to schizophrenia. But I have no clear diagnosis.
But this video perfect describes 80% of my symptoms.
I have an anxiety disorder and the symptoms they've described are a lot like what I've experienced. And I've also had visual snow, seen floaters and etc, but my anxiety makes me notice them more and I didn't even know I had it until I read into it which happened only because I was anxious... I think a lot of these patients just have some form of anxiety disorder brought on by psychedelic usage and realised the visual effects as anxiety makes you feel "hyper aware" and constantly checking and questioning yourself.
Scientific and metric Solid-found evidence says, ‘suggestibility’ number 1 effect of Cannabis and LSD (source Pollin)
Plus
GAD (Generalized Anxiety Disorder)
Bingo
I disagree from personal experience but I'm also not everyone so maybe that's the case for others. I used to get weird tracers behind cars, especially in the dark with running lights on, after being dehydrated from working in the heat all day but I wasn't anxious at all. The only other time I really had annoying levels of hppd symptoms was if I was really hungry or had low blood sugar. I got trailing n that weird thing where shadows in textures look like they're rolling away and not moving at the same time
I think your on to something rocky
I’ve got HPPD from consuming shrooms too frequently, You’re kind of right in a way. When it was really bad constantly thinking about it Definitely made 3x worse, focusing on the static and the weird looking shit and thinking it would never be the same again. It’s hard but the best thing to do to help HPPD is lay off any Psycheelics (weed too) and try not to think about it. Funnily enough after going on a mini drinking binge for 3 days I felt like it got better. But my brain chemistry is all fucked
Except for the fact those most who have the visual fractals after taking psychedelics dont have distress from it.
The distress just comes from fundamental anxiety.
HPPD isnt that bad, it makes things a little more interesting, but i still wish i didnt have it, as long as your busy and moving it isnt noticable
It varies by person. It can be highly problematic in some people, though that doesn't appear to be typical.
It was worse in the begining when I didnt know what was going on. I miss my old self, when I was thinking clear, and no visual distortions.
carlos is right, but it can be an annoyance if its strong...
I had to quit driving for about 4 months for my own and everyone elses safety I could not see clearly for an entire year maybe longer after continuous use of psychedelic & stims
My hppd is pretty strong, it does annoy me once in awhile, mostly when I read or I'm sitting still for long periods of time, it all depends on the person and thier view on the disturbances it causes them
Carlos Franco Can u drive a car with it? What substance gave it to you?
*Drives my Car on the Highway at 80 mph* *gets intense visual flashback* " Oh hell yeah free Trip"
fax lmaooo
Later that day
"Horrible car accident kills 2 people"
Don't forget to thank your plug
@@desi2119 "Drunk driver lost control"
@@St.Calamity who the fuck are you?
I dropped acid my first year of college and had a very difficult trip. I had to drop out for a year because I couldn't read more than a few words at a time (the words seemed to slip off the page before I could focus on them). Took about 10 months for things to be still again, like everything was either shaking, sliding, or melting, but only a little bit, and only sometimes, so I guess I got lucky with a minor case. No one knew what the hell I was talking about at the time (back in 2015), so it's very relieving to see this video, bringing some awareness to the matter. It can be very scary to go through, at least it was for me. I'm sober and happy now.
To anyone who might be going through this right now, I promise you’ll be good. May 7th 2020 was my last time taking psychedelics for fun, and I had a horrible trip that lasted for pretty much months and broke my brain and gave me an existential crisis. Waking up every day was hard. I thought I was the most enlightened person and I had all these crazy schizophrenic thoughts and was always so paranoid. After a year I got better on my own, but I never worked out, ate healthy or focused too hard on getting good sleep so I’m sure you can get there quicker if you do those things. The one good thing about HPPD is if you can beat it it will make you a lot stronger and more comfortable and real life will seem a lot better and easier if you’re strong enough to push through. I do not regret my experience at all. And you shouldn’t either. Just push through, it will make a good story to tell one day.
what did you take
@@danelindsey3508 i had done salvia and acid numerous times, but did acid again, too soon after having a very intense trip. Shit fucked me up. I couldn’t even look at artificial light without being traumatized and scarred.
@@FlezBagJayGags did u have visual snow too?
@@wavxy7454 it was just really bad. But the thing is it actually goes away and you’ll go back to normal. You’re just gonna be forced to change for the better for a little bit. You’re going to have to get outside, work out, be grateful for life and family, and just get back into the normal swing of things. You’ll be Gucci brotha. You are here, and you are fine. Get a nice drink and a snack if you feel anxious and watch something funny like stand up comedy
@@FlezBagJayGags heard that bro 🙏, I’m trying man I’m 16 and just worried don’t wanna be stuck like this yk. I feel as most of the stuff is gone but my vision is just Static and I heard visual snow last forever, so jus confused between hppd and the visual snow thing if it’s temporary hppd symptoms still or VS. haven’t even played varsity baseball this year missed every game bc of it. It’s like just really static wit these floaters in my eyes. Imma keep moving tho it’s the only way out and I’m a very active kid who had goals that got temporary sent back bc of this. Just lost on what to do, haven’t slept in days bc it’s jus this wire that don’t go off. No relief whatsoever trying my hardest to distract my self but this static vision always present. No matter what I do, thanks for getting back to me g. Gives me some motivation to keep going have thoughts about just ending it myself but ik that not right but jus miss the old me and hopefully it revert back. God bless u bro stay safe ❤️🙏
I don't even do drugs, I just have friends who do, and I want to make sure their safe
Do you drink or smoke cigarettes? No? Caffeine?
What about sugar? Never mind. Your friends are as safe as crossing a road. Even if they wait for the green light at the crossing, a van might swerve and flatten them, those things do happen every now and then. So yeah, you can minimize the risk but there's a little uncertainty left, always.
Michael Espeland no, i dont put anything unnecessary into my body, but i dont have a problem if people choose to, because who am i to judge?
Thats impressive
I only do meth it's not a drug it's a vitamin ok
Had this like 3 years ago, and it was crazy. I'd come into work and occasionally the a wooden grain on the door would start to flow life a melting painting. I also had visual snow, especially on cloudy days. It was like tiny particles in my vision that moved in a murmuration like birds do. It was like a blizzard when it was just slightly overcast. It's gone away slowly over a couple years, but sometimes things grow or shrink ever so slightly in my vision.
Any other symptoms, like brain fog, dp/dr or anxiety?
Last Night I saw and felt my bed being lifted up when I was sitting on it. Made me Jump.
What were you taking though and how often after it happened ?
love this channel man! At first i thought it was too meaty and serious. But now i love it. So much useful information and i really learn stuff!
That's great to hear, I'm glad you like the content.
I started taking lots of psychedelics a few years ago, the lsd, shrooms, and dmt caused no problems, made life better if anything. But I got addicted to mdma/mda and quickly developed lots of mental problems. I’ve accepted it but whenever I smoke weed I get psychotic symptoms unless I’m on benzos.
It’s not hppd but I definitely want to know more about it.
I did molly for 9 days straight that fucked up my mood and brain for a long fucking time
Damn brotha hope you can return to a natural state, remain strong and try to let ur mind heal from those B's substances as much as possible
MDA goes hard af. Super hallucinogenic roll. I've only got to really do it once and it was pretty nuts.beyond eye jitters.i took a hit nitrous and started seeing different hallucinations out of each eye. Like my visual cortex separated or something. I could see how it could be a problem having it around in abundance. Intensely blissful. I think it's also rather toxic.
you will get those symptoms if you dont smoke alot ur probably smoking high grade
You can't get physically addicted to mdma or mda.
hasn’t gone away since my first acid breakthrough it’s kinda cool but it’s just a constant reminder of my poor decisions with drugs
I feel unbalanced I can't think right ever since I did acid for the third time and was a different type of chemical. I feel like I can't think and barely remember. I'm 20 and made some bad decisions w drugs
Like I feel there but not there and see layer of static
I feel skitzo and hallucination and have an episode
Op Po I feel this
@@shannonmichelle7183 I used to have this, what helped was staying grounded and being busy with work and studies
One of the best things to treat this is to calm and rest your mind/brain. Doing any drugs puts your brain through a lot so it’s no surprise that they have bad side effects. I recommend avoiding all stimulants for a while and do meditation and yoga. I was able to treat mine by avoiding any stimulants. Even coffee brought on my hppd symptoms.
How did you get it?
I’ve had these symptoms for five years now so for anyone who’s just now experiencing HPPD and is reading this I want you to know it gets easier so don’t panic. When I first started going through all of this I was so scared I actually thought suicide was the only way to fix my issue which I am very glad I did not do. The best thing you can do for yourself is relax and realize you’re not going as crazy as you think. Unfortunately, there is no cure so try your best to adjust to the new way you see the world. Stay away from drugs (as best as you can), eat healthy food, exercise everyday and most importantly GET GOOD SLEEP. After awhile you won’t even notice the static and the floaters it all becomes normal and you go back to living like you were before.
are you living a normal life as before now
and what are some of the medications or therapy which was beneficial for you?
@@007_debrudrabhadra6 I still have visual symptoms but it doesn’t affect my daily life. I don’t take any medications for it and I haven’t tried anything therapy wise, I just try to ignore it and go about business as usual. I recommend wearing sunglasses if bright lighting becomes that bothersome but other than that, everything in my first comment is the only piece of advice I can give. The real key is getting proper REM sleep. When I go to bed and wake up at reasonable hours my visuals aren’t as near as intense.
Man i love it when im tryna read something about a condition i have and the letters keep moving, thanks hppd
a year later, has it gotten better for you??
I would have these dizziness feelings and my head would go into a rush, after I’d have aura migraines, after my first episodes of panic attacks I went sober my symptoms of static and after images have improved drastically,
Gym, eat right and sleep when you feel tired helps a lot, especially having faith in God he’s helped me a lot through this tough situation I thank him everyday for helping me through this shit
Good for you man stay on the path no matter how much you falter
I have HPPD for 10 years now after heavy overdose of benzydamine hcl. Moving objects that are close to my view are leaving "shadow trails" in the air. Never seek treatment, got use to it. It can be helpfull in tracing small objects like droped screws, coins etc. I used LSD and Psilocibine since - it had no effect on HPPD. It doesn't affect my day to day life.
Difkament I'm curios if someone could throw a coin into your field of vision and have it land where you wouldn't see it. It would be super interesting to see if that trail would show you where it landed, because if it did that seems pretty significant to me.
Adding a trail to something you can see would be easy enough to imagine, but actually having something pass you and leave a real trail behind that you could follow seems like something else completely.
The shadow trail sounds like a superior. I’m a fabricator and I’m constantly dropping screws and losing them
Why do people who use benzos have such bad spelling..
@@thinginground5179 benzos?
@@cmcog Yeah, benzos.
i want my money back I was ripped off not one single flashback 100s of trips
it only happens after you go really deep..
Take one big dose guarantee youll have them days later
@Switch Kick i don't think that's hppd, i've been wondering if flashbacks are real lately and i think its your body being put in the same environment as the trip and your brain makes you trip. Because really its not the chemical making you trip, its the chemical assisting your brain in making you trip.
@Switch Kick same its crazy
@@thefllxo8491 that's the best description. flashbacks have been proven not to be real most cases of flashbacks occurred right after ww2 and people had PTSD then they would do pyscedelics and have a PTSD episode and say it was a flashback. I've done lsd dmt shrooms and a lot of the triptemines and never had an flashback or hppd
I did acid a couple times earlier in my life, and noticed after i had there were multiple occurrences where I had seen hallucinations that weren’t so much impairing as they were jarring. I had a moment where while i was at work I saw a truck stop stand up with little legs and walk a few steps, but after i took a second look I quickly realized it was obviously a hallucination. I would occasionally see movements out of the corner of my eyes, and it lasted for several months, which lead to me abstaining from hallucinogens.
Dealt with hppd for about a year after an intense and bad trip. I found what really helped was to just try not to think about the thoughts and feelings you had during the trip, and stay focused on the present moment and the tasks you have to do throughout the day. And eventually the hppd withered away
I don't understand why everyone is saying it's all negative. I was born with hppd I used to tell my grandparents I can see atoms and stuff move etc. at 18 I noticed my hppd was gone. The world seemed depressing and boring. Everything seemed dim while before everything was bright and vibrant and happy. After realizing it was gone I wanted it back. A year later they are back and it's great.
Liam Thomas born with hppd? What psychedelics you were using?
TheNeurolicious no, HPPD can only be the result of hallucinogebic substance use. There obv can be symptoms without having ever used drugs, but they are from anothet cause and way less intense than actual hppd. I had some symtoms too before I tried drugs, but the difference is gigantic
TheNeurolicious thats really interesting, and the implication is, that People are born with a preform of these intense optics and visuals rapidly moving and color changing and complex structured and with ancient symbols, at least thats how I and other people who have severe hppd most likely see it, doesnt matter what drugs were used in the past. So we had this exact same thing only less severe and from birth. Where does it come from then? Why are these so similar to most people?
I do agree with your theory, but havent ever heard of it. Have you any links or papers where this is explained and proven?
Some people r born with the symptoms of hppd but it technically isn’t hppd itself, just visual snow eyc
@@Ravi-pd2tj
Right, they can't be considered HPPD, but I am curious as to why they thought they had it. If I had to guess, it would probably be a self-diagnosis.
Faszinating. Never researched it. After i took alot of lsd for a longer period i noticed the sky beeing static (another comment mentioned static, perfect example for me) i was kind of sad to potentialy never see the sky again normally. That was 10 years ago, and it mostly went away. Hang in there folks :)
This video is incredibly informative and thanks to it, I’ve been able to recognize the symptoms and how to manage them, and it’s just made things so much better for me. Thank you🙏🏼
For anyone struggling with HPPD, there is a way to help yourself, but it's not nearly as simple as medicating or wishing the symptoms away. This way is through the use of mindfulness meditation and yogic practices.
I've suffered from HPPD for a little over 2 years now originating from two separate 25-I-Nbome and 25-X uses/experiences. My symptoms visually, have slightly worsened since I had found out what happened to me, exacerbated by slight MDMA and cannabis abuse. The Depersonalization and Disassociation(the worse part) I've only just learnt to deal wit this past year and function around. Not saying that for 2 years I couldn't function, for only those I chose to tell about my condition knew what I was going through. But to say, I can now realise how much for a fucking bubble I was leaving in. A bubble coated in purplely rainbow static and breathing patterns, filled with existential anxiety and the consistent question of my very existence. *such fun*
This bubble(a metaphor) only just properly popped towards the beginning of 2018 for the first time. How? Through the use of mindfulness meditation and yoga. I started practicing in 2017 and for a year now I've done 30minutes of yoga and 45minuets of mindfulness meditation each morning. This has essentially removed all feelings of Depersonalization, Derealisation and Disassociation, while feeling happier, wiser and healthier than I ever had before. While my unique HPPD vision remains, the purplely rainbow static and breathing patterns in my visual field are still with me, but don't faze me in the slightest anymore and mainly go unnoticed unless I choose to directed my awareness towards it. I feel like I've now, for the first time since the Nbome trips have grounded myself by into my own head and body, and no longer live outside my myself like I use to feel. I can even smoke weed again without feeling like I'm balls deep in a bad acid trip. I now get next to no anxiety from it like I use to.
With all this said. The best way to improve your HPPD symptoms would to abstain from any psychoactive substance use and to mix that with the meditation and yoga. But for a lot of us, through all the torment of this condition can not put down those drugs we do or used to love so much. So I would highly recommend these meditative practices, especially if you are one who is struggle with putting down the substances. I can now smoke weed, drink and even trip on psychedelics(only traditional, fuck Nbome and other RC's off) again without any usually effect or worsing of my condition visually or mentally, although I would ultimately recommend sobriety for I could be playing fire.
*I am sorry for this long read. I hope it can help anyone struggling with this condition to better there life. Regardless it will always get better so try not to stress yourself out too much. Thank you :)
OK this sounds like what my gf is going through. She has been going through this for like 3 years now and I don't know what to do. When we were living in NH she was doing better wasn't drinking and it seemed to kind of fade. but now we live back in Chicago in the city and she's drinking and its like she's not there. Like she doesn't feel sane she keeps calling herself crazy. She says she cant stop thinking. She is always saying sorry and questioning herself. And spacing out and answering questing slightly late and I'm not sure what to do but its really starting to scare me. She doesn't want to do drugs but she does have a drinking problem I would say. And we do smoke weed. What can I do to help I'm running out of option and I'm not going to just leave her because I can see the pain on her face and that she's scared and its really fucking with me.. And nobody else will take her serious and all her old friends thinks she's off now. I just want her to have a fulfilling life and not like she's not here. Any tips would be amazing. Was it just yoga or are you taking vitamins change your diet? I'm willing to do anything
@@linofragoso6968 really she will always fell like she is schizophrenic?
Bro you should like you might still have some symptoms lol
@@linofragoso6968 Ok ya she has already come to the point where she is living with it. But I appreciate the info. Thats pretty much what I have been thinking instead of the over the counter pill route.
@@roundtrip385 its a matter of hanging in there ,the brain heals if it is given the space to do so , i understand why she drinks , it does block it somewhat , weed is very veryh bad for it , she has to keep reminding herself , its just the drugs. Having support also helps alot
I get flashbacks a lot, but only on demand. I can also get a beyond-view glimpse of someone else's personal view. Could be imaginary, but very convincing.
I can do that too
This comment section has taught me a lot about myself. I need to make a video to explain my experience. Im self diagnosing here, but am positive I have Borderline Schizophrenic Disorder (family history). A basic overview is as follows. Summer 2002 I consumed Magic Mushrooms 10ish times with friends. 2.5 Gram dose would typically give me a level 3 trip, I am a lightweight, where as many of my peers would just get a solid buzz and see tracers, I would be full blown tripping balls. The last time I did mush, I voluntarily hospitalized myself at the start of my peak(2 hours in).
Life background. Depressed low self esteem, suicidal ideation started at 13, thoughts of it even as a child. 2001 hit me hard,9/11. Actually tried to end it in my “sleep” (“broke” my own neck in the headboard cubby of my bed, the vertebrate 20 years later is still visibly shifted), was paralyzed for about 2 minutes, took me about 8 to roll Halfway onto the floor and stand up. I was so f***ing mad, went to school fighting back tears all day and didn’t say a word,it was very painful, I just glared and moaned/grunted at people. Heavy weed use and drinking throughout the year, I sort of became decent to be around again by the end of the school year, the summer I did the mush.
(People, if you have mental health issues, drugs will typically make those issues more pronounced)
The bad trip. Typical bad trip in a hospital setting, injected with muscle relaxant and strapped to a table, with my torso at a slight incline. I just stared at the ceiling gasping and crying for 6 hours watching “black rain” rain down, that was it - at the time horrifying. I have since more life experience at 36 and have experienced scarier shit, but something about that trip man, literally just black miniature comets with tails raining down fucking endlessly.
That bad trip put me into psychosis for 2 years.( I think, this was a very messed up time in my life with OOB experiences and visits from entities)( I became functional after 3 months though, like 2 word responses instead of 1, and actually spent more than 5 minutes outside of my bed). The paranoia (thankfully) went away after 13 years. I still have the residue and recognize the triggers though. It was at this point that my HPPD became “normal”.
I just learned 2 months ago that tinnitus isn’t normal, I thought everybody has that. Thankfully my tinnitus is just there, I don’t get attacks too often. ( you know when the pitch starts screaming so loud and ramping in tone it almost stun locks you, that only happens rarely).
I’m not practicing meditation/exercise/healthy eating/ and still not the healthiest relationships in life. I’m not giving up, I just took myself off risperidone again, but this last time was messed. A lot of hallucinations ( thankfully only when trying to fall asleep). The worst of which is: you know the feeling where you wake up from a nightmare screaming, but are barely yelping or even can’t scream? It’s that feeling in REVERSE. I’m almost asleep, then bam I feel like my body is getting sucked into a nightmare, and then I get jolted awake before I enter. It’s fucking hell, because sleep deprivation is a GAURAnteed psychotic episode for me nowadays. (40 hours typically is when I break). But I survived.
Right HPPD. I’ve found over the years that multivitamins and healthy eating all at once makes Color’s really vivid, and the tracers and sprites are a lot more
Zoomy. Intense exercise typically exasperates the HPPD for a few hours.
After 20 years of tracers and lights/sprites (flashes of Color or black) I’m used to it. The visual snow sucks and contributes to depression, but I saw snow as a child, so maybe I was already Schizophrenic to an extent. (Borderline - mind you - I can tell if I’m hallucinating).
I would say stimulants can make tinnitus symptoms worse as well. Caffeine/Nicotine in my case.
I had tachycardia quite a bit and still get it occasionally. Dehydration and sensitive skin is probably a factor. Mine felt like ticks not worms or maggots.
The scariest tactile sensation I get from time to time is when your lying in bed and it feels like all the skin touching the bed side starts twisting and crawling. Does anyone else get this?
Scares the actual shit out of me!
Does anyone else get this? Seriously, it’s so flipping terrifying that I jump from bed turn on the lights and walk it off. Sometimes it’s only a small portion of skin that does it though and I don get jump scared, but sit there feeling it growing, until the heebie jeebies kick in and I ditch the bed and frantically check for pilling/crumbs/bugs, but yet again, nothing is there.
I’ve learned to cope with these symptoms by ever evolving my own mental prison, it seems to be working to just accept it. I need to put some effort into trying to be healthier, consistently, and see if my HPPD and tinnitus improve at all.
Oh another symptom I get is when I’m driving at night I see shadows ALL the time. Usually it’ll be a sign or utility box, but so many times in my peripheral or just outside of centre vision , it looks like people.
I learned about HPPD via the internet sometime in 2003 ish and informed my brain doctor I had the condition, I also found erowid . org , where I studied about drugs. I was on risperidone( a small dose though) and still ended up starting to develop mammary glands, yeah, had these disc like hard clumps under my nipples for a few months they were slightly inflamed, the inflammation and minor swelling went away but the left side lump stayed for about a year and a half or 2 and just kept shrinking. I thought that might be relevant, as many of you have taken that medication. There was a class action lawsuit around 8 years after it’s release, to compensate males who had developed breasts, yeah.
This is not a well thought out post, but that is some of the stuff I went through. I’m not sure if HPPD will get better for you or I, but it DOES get easier to live with.
Good luck! Make healthy decisions? Oh get help if you need it, just the act of it does wonders even if the help you get isn’t helpful much.
im so sorry you have to go through this stay strong
@@raytrujillo7326 Wow I forgot I wrote this. Kind of scary. What a strange time to be notified. Thank you, I'm focusing on a healthy attitude now and just began a deliberate self improvement journey yesterday. Wish you the best!
@@Mcrobrob1 yea man i feel for you this last saturday me and my friend tripped on about 1.5 grams of shrooms and i never knew he was in such a terrible place so much past trauma he never had mentioned he almost killer himself with pills when i wasn’t with him for a couple minutes it was a night of hell for him and me and we talked just today about him having HPPD symptoms but he is fully functional. nobody deserves to go through that it’s such a broken world we live in my friend is such a good guy never had bad intentions since the 2 years ive known him. we just have to make the best out of our lifetime on earth ✌️❤️
I have it the static never stops
Romeo Lombardo I have had hppd as long as I remember, I've had it before I used psychedelics too. It was clinically tested too, so I know I have had it my whole life.
me 2 im snowblind
Pigsrock93 I got the same but drugs did make the symptoms worse. Did you notice that your symptoms became (permanently) worse after using psychedelics.
yasin3210 Psychedelics made the symptoms more noticeable, but it's like a dream when I start noticing them without trying to. Throughout my day, it's easier to try to ignore the visuals, than finding ways to stop it.
Romeo Lombardo try red vein kratom helped me
I have depersonalization disorder from weed. It almost always happens when im tired, bored, or feel unconfortable. I've realized that its just my brain over-reacting and learned to control it. Meditation seems to help a lot.
seeing 'static' in certain patterns on carpets / rugs isn't that bothersome. I like it.
Not just that i have trails and adter images
HPPD has ruined my life. It’s that bad. I can’t see how someone who genuinely has HPPD can claim it hasn’t. It’s been 2 and half years since it started and it has persisted since it first began and has no signs of stopping.
I can’t work. I can’t drive. I can barely function around my house. I have crippling anxiety and depression because of it.
I see things that aren’t there, which I know aren’t there, but it doesn’t change the fact that I still see them.
Do u see static?
Some people have minor cases that are annoying but not life altering
Praying for it to get better! 🙏
I hope you get better brother I’m same here I don’t know what to do
i heard psychedelics have the power to reconnect/rewire your brain... and while using it, some parts of the brain communicate with other parts, that usually don't talk with each other... if this is true, maybe psychedelics can wire these party constantly together so that they do strange things
Chris aka Schulbus i like your theory
little dose of mushroom cure my hhpd and my flashback while smokign and yes flashback si9 fucking real i got that fire 220ug white fluff roland 303 blotter the best of the best
That isnt just a theory but a fact to an extent.
Isnt known if that causes HPPD but it is known that psychedelics do indeed permanently rewire your brain.
I remember have see that DMT was released in the brain when the brain have no more oxygen (near death expérience) , to protect it. So it makes sens !
Not abuse no
Here's my theory on why this happens to people. There are mutations in the SERT transporter known to be involved with depressive and anxiety disorders. These are gain of functions phenotypes, meaning the transport moves serotonin from the synapse back to the presynaptic vesicle at a greater rate than the typical allele. This means less serotonin jumps the gap to activate serotonin receptors. When a nueral pathway is activated, a compound called neurotrophin is released. This causes the strengthing of the pathway that is activated. The lack of serotonin leads to a lack of neuroplasticity, which is the cause of many of the symptoms we associate with depression and anxiety. Specifically, anxiety seems to be related to the 5-ht1 receptors and depression to the 5-ht2 but this is an extreme over simplification. Anyway, when you expose someone to a serotonin agonist it will have a biased interaction to different serotonin receptors, these will also have differing downstream effects from the different cascades that follow. The pathways activated by each of these cascades will then be strengthened by the resulting release of neurotrophin. When someone with one of the aforementioned mutated SERT's has this happen, they will have a more significantly biased change in neural formation because the lower rate, overall, of serotonin activating receptors and causes the downstream pathways to be activated. This bias could even further extend if one of the specfic serotonin receptors has a mutation that allows for prolonged ligand interaction times. Something like an amino acid being swapped out in the 5-ht2a receptros allowing the 'lid' that covers the diethylamine of LSD, and n-benzyl-2-methoxy moeities of the NBOMe compounds, being able to conform further over the ligand. Thus, this leads to prolong activation of the pathways for these specific two classes of compounds, which both seem more signicantly linked to this disorder than most psychedelics. The need for these two mutated genes for this effect to happen would also explain is relative rarity when compared to the rather large number of people who possess gain-of-function SERT genetypes.
Are u a scientist of some sort. Seems plausible.
I have a couple of questions. Can you get this mutation from mdma and mushroom use?
And is thus mutation going to be fixed by your brain after time or is there a treatment?
Don't do psychedelics unless you want to fuck yourself up.
Amen. I hate "spiritual" people. So damaging.
this. i needed this. it came from extended and dramatic amounts of cannabis use all day long every day. it hit me all at once one night and i’ve never been the same. i’ve changed entirely as a person. i don’t even really know who i am. i can’t feel a lot. my anxiety is literally crippling. derealization and panic fill my everyday life and yet i can’t stop using cannabis. or anything else. this gives me a starting place and hopefully an end. i want to be myself again and be happy to do things. thank you for posting about something that not many others have. i needed this.
Same for me. I retired and my cannabis consumption went through the roof. Ive switched to more cbd flower during the day to see if it helps. Still tryin to figure it all out.
I think, I might have had an hppd after doing 250ug lsd. The colors were really bright and vivid all the time and it slowly started to fade away after about a month of time håd passed. It was actually a very cool experience for me.
Sorry that's not hppd, depending on body size those could've been really intense tracers, lsd and other hallucigens stay in your system for a really long time so it's most likely just an "afterburn" of whatever it is you took, hppd will also keep the effects of the drugs more intense through a much longer time essentialy, so you'll still see breathing and fractals, the bright spots were prolly tracers hope it helps even after 4 yrs
Try taking 750 ug next time
Impeccable timing sir, gel tabs today and it's my bday 🥳
As somebody with pretty intense HPPD the combination that has helped me the most is Lamotrigine and gabapentin. I find that it doesn’t make the visual distortion go away but it almost dulls my brains fear of them. So while they are still present I’m able to live my life without anxiety or distress. I’d say the gabapentin had the largest impact on the reduction of anxiety.
I've had HPPD like symptoms for years, due to my obsessive LSD use, however never looked at it as all that bad of a thing. Flashbacks can be alarming at first, sure, but ultimately they don't get in the way all that much, and just make reality a bit more interesting...
HOWEVER, on February 10th of 2017, I accidentally dosed an obscene and still undetermined amount of LSD, and found my self in what could be called a full LSD psychosis--in constant flashback of the experience--for about 3 weeks afterwards. After that, the symptoms began slowly SLOWLY fading... but still to this day, have not gone away completely.
At this point, over a year and a half later, there are many physical and emotional triggers for my HPPD symptoms, but the actual condition lay only in my background. No longer is my constant visual experience altered (to the extent it at one point was, I can deal with where I am now), however certain things--such as exerting a lot of physical energy (exercise), overeating/underrating, oversleeping/undersleeping, most any type of drug use especially psychedelics and cannabis, or even just extreme emotions, such as depression and anxiety--are one to trigger symptoms to re-arise.
Excited to see how our collective understanding of this condition grows, as it has literally ran my entire life for so so so long, and yet details about it remain a mystery...
I was horribly depressed and kind of losing my mind and hearing voices that wasn't mine and seeing white shadows all around me in the corner of eye but then my friend started hanging out with every weekend feeding me acid for a month and it all just went away and I've been happy and sane ever sense .
My hppd looks like there is static in my vision all the time and I sometimes see the air moving almost like a mirage
“Seeing air moving” I think that’s a good way to describe what I see sometimes
I haven’t used LSD in years and it’s been about a year since I’ve used mushrooms and I’ve had symptoms ever since. I feel like I’ve permanently changed my perception on life with drug use. I feel more self aware to everything. Sometimes it’s nice and sometimes it can be frightening
Great Channel.... I developed HPPD after one VERY, VERY intense lsd experience. (I've done lsd before this). I believe the dosage was rather dangerous and ridiculous because I felt the onset of effects within 15 minutes of ingestion. I could "see" the LSD in my body... I had profound physical hallucinations, i.e, my arms were across the room or were bent into impossible angles. My body was either not present or shaped like a crystal lattice. The worst part was the feeling that I had on my tongue where I put the blotter.. I could visualize the square. I was experiencing/hallucinating severe pain in my mouth and neck and the pain tasted and looked completely metallic. It was pain like I've never felt before. The pain was golden and bright like the sun. Within that first hour, I had complete ego death. My reality and my sense of self was gone. Eradicated. My sense of understanding that I could possibly be alive, was COMPLETELY gone. Fuck... I didn't even mention the visuals because my entire visual field was replaced with fractal imagery, visions from the past or possibly from the future. I was technically blinded by the visuals.. The effects persisted for almost 18 hours... The next week I felt normal. Then I started to notice that everything, even while 100% sober, looked extremely psychedelic... The trees looked psychedelic and mystical and seemed to be animate. My head felt empty and I could picture my thinking patterns in the form of shapes.... Every noise had so much reverb, any moving objects would leave tracers, objects would grow and shrink, walls would continue to flow and any pattern would manifest faces and images... Anytime and every time I smoked the sacred herb, it simply nudged me into a very psychedelic headspace.... With the same body load I felt whilst tripping. I felt as if I was out of body.... It's been at least 15 years since I had that experience and I still have the same feelings... I intuit that the visual symptoms I'm still experiencing were caused by the intense visuals.. I believe the visual changes are now permanent due to the extreme visual derangement caused by the Lsd... My vision has never recovered. Everything is VERY psychedelic and mystical feeling. The echoes I hear have Improved somewhat. But I no longer have panic attacks and I can learn again.. Lol so that's good, right?
Jesse Montano you sure it was LSD? you mentioned a metallic taste
Neurolicious yeah I agree. I along with a homie dropped 1300ug cuz we thought we'd just trip immense sacc but fuck man he broke himself for a bit lol it was too much for him. For me oh man like when I peaked my vision was blinded by fuckin patterns n shit my body straight dissolved shit was sooo intense. I had done 800ug before and thought 1000 wouldn't be that different but boiiii was I wrong lmao. Tripped for over 20 hours total and afterwards I still felt like I was trippin. Scared tf outta me n showed me that psychedelics aren't fuckin toys. At low doses its dope to drop and have fun but when you drop more shit starts to fuck with you and its time to be serious.
Jesse Montano The metallic taste, that could have been an indicator that it wasnt LSD. From what it sounds like in your experience, you were given some Bromo, passed off as LSD. Or it could have been one of countless other chems, theres no telling. Get a test kit. Theyre affordable, and straightforward to use.
James Bradley Mercer old comment but your onto something metallic can mean fake acid / nbome
I just read these comments. It was definitely L. It was actually much longer than 15 year's. It was during the era when the grateful dead were still around.... I suppose my description was vague. The tab had no taste. It was just a sensation on my tongue. The tabs were soaked and still moist. There were ten sheets individually wrapped in foil. And that was wrapped in foil. Inside a jar filled with dry ice. The large jar was also wrapped in foil with a nice layer of dry ice sandwiched between the outer most layer of foil and the glass of the jar!!!! I don't know how many mics I ingested. Only god and the chemist know!!! I hallucinated all kinds of flavors.. it was not fun. The square I thought was there was either metallic and it caused searing death pain. But no, the tab was flavorless. Just a sensation that there was definitely something there. But it had no flavor. Just a tingle. Then.... I lost my mind.. When I was coming down and I was piecing my self back together, I inadvertently reintegrated in Pele, the famous soccer player. I was 15 year's old. Had older, way older dead head friends. I've never, since then, felt L like that. It was otherworldly. It definitely changed me for the better. I have since then been unable to absent mindedly follow the mainstream flow. I was unable to just be a sheeple.. blah. It doesn't matter, really... Have a nice year. Happy holidays to u guys, albeit kinda early....
I used to have it in a way that I felt like was extremely bad. Once I got clean from the drugs, it almost completely went away over several months. Mine was so bad I would see full blown psychedelic imagery like one would on an acid trip, but less intense than a usual dose. I lost a ton of weight and became super sensitive to everything. I had to quit weed due to CHS and a major hospital visit and finally a doctor had told me the duo of disorders I was being beaten by. Someone mentioned wishing they could experience the sky or the ocean the same way they used to. I totally feel that
I think a year without touching any substance will revert the hppd effects by 99.8%.Some people get it worst than others and it takes years for them to recover.maybe younger people below 25 will get it much harder than older.
Yeah, the body needs time to regulate and heal. Especially the mind, could take a long time to get back to normal
NoCoke i hope to god your right. I think i might quit drugs for a while and hope it slows down.
It will.Just be carefull with the psychedelics.Even a microdose will trigger an existing hppd.
NoCoke oh yea for sure. ive even weened back on THC
@@beavisbutthead6063 You still feeling it? and do you have symptom of psychosis because my GF is like lost all the time. She can't focus anymore she feels serperated and is fixated on the universe like she feels like she's hurting it. And I don't want to leave her in her time of need . but I don't understand whats going on myself
This is the reason people shouldn't trip more than once every month and watch their dosage. Also people with depression and anxiety are apparently more likely to experience symptoms so you gotta be careful even when the substance isn't physically harmful
I have suffered from HPPD for 25 years. The onset was straight after my first LSD trip taken when i was 13/14 years old. I took the acid around 6.p.m. and finally came down around 6.a.m. The next day my normal vision was strongly distorted. My friend who was tripping with me and took an equal dose was fine the next day. In 1993 and at such a young age i had discuss my issue with and it was only through a BBC documentary about military veterans that i realised that many of these unfortunate soldiers suffered with the same affliction as i have. I realise that after 25 years HPPD is with me for the duration of this life although its not the end of the world. On another note, im a strong advocate for many psychedelics but LSD is not for me. Iboga, Ayahuasca, Rape, Kambo., Bufo alvarious, DMT, and psycillocibin have all had profoundly beneficial impacts on my life and if anybody wanted further information inn relation to any of these medicines free to contact me
I have hppd can I drink achhol or no?
I am interested to ask...
Alot of you shouldn't be taking anything after reading these comments some of you wrote. HPPD is not fun and seeing the world in a new light. The visuals from Hppd are not enjoyable ones and don't end for up to a year in some cases. Thanks drugclassroom for the all the honest info you are doing a good thing.
Suicide Tuesday you realize that if you use psychedelics right you most of the time never catch it right? You sound just as ignorant as the stupid fucks who banned it because its users didn't align with the warmonger attitude to fund America wealth even further
No shit thwag drake. You a thug that likes drake? Scary. If you read the fucking comments people are saying how it would be cool to get HPPD or how they have because they took L once and now see the world different. Most are probably lying. I have a friend who has had it for a year. I aint saying people shouldn't be allowed to take what they want. I love psychedelics. So go back to playing your video games in your parents house and bitch about American wealth just like all yuppie teens do. When you don't even realize you are the problem. Thawg Drake you big thug gangsta your a fake ass bitch.
XxXThwag DrakeXxX I hope you never get it. But I do hope you get aids and then the flu.
As a very experienced psychonaut, I have experienced both flashbacks and HPPD. For me, what differentiates the two is a feeling of a "body high" that you get when the trip is really starting to take off and flashbacks are most often a sort of mental experience that sometimes include hallucinations. In one case, I was experiencing what I thought was an HPPD episode when it devolved into a flu-like illness that lasted for a few days. Almost as if my body was responding to the viral invasion with an HPPD experience complete with tracers,dilated pupils, and an inability to focus on any objects arranged in serried rows, like steps or buildings fenceposts. Just though I'd share.....
Bro you gotta get off this stuff it's only gonna get worse there's a life out there for you to live
@@WeCannotEattheCow Im working on my masters in psychology at City University of New York,I have a life. It just may be a bit more multi dimensional than yours but fulfilling. Being judgemental is the hallmark of a small mind.
I got an intense flashback from rhabdomyolysis while in jail. This was 10 years ago when I was bad off on all drugs and I basically destroyed my body with meth. While I was detoxing in jail I started working out and did way too many body squats while my leg muscles were completely not ready for it. I felt like I started tripping and I was pissing coffee, which when I looked it up after I got out, is protein from muscles being broken down and becoming toxic to your kidneys. But after it happened I was sick laying in my bunk and had intense visuals that mimicked the various psychedelics I had taken in the years prior. I'm surprised I survived because the guards didn't believe I was sick at all until they finally dragged my as to medical and examined my dark urine. Scary for sure I'm glad I made it out of there and glad to be sober 10 years later.
@rayramos8435 For someone who's an experienced psychonaut, you sure sound pretentious and egotistical. The guy didn't even say anything bad and you got all defensive and shot him down. Big "my parents pay for my university and I think psychedelics make me smarter" vibes. I'd bet the tabs were bought with daddy's money as well, right?
@@Trahzy ha ha. I will tell you one thing I learned at university was a concept called attribution bias. That is where one attributes malice or negative intent where there is none or based on one's (often projected) perceptions of the other person. Your comment made me do an actual spit take it fell so far from the mark. I'm a Puerto Rican from NYC'S Lower East Side where I lived until I was sent to an orphanage until I was 18. There was no daddy less a tuition paying one. I grew up on the street and at one point ended up in Attica. I got cleaned up went back to school( that I'm still paying for) and now work as a care manager helping people live healthy lives. In normal conversations people may sometimes offer differing experiences not as a way to denigrate their experience but to float the idea that perhaps not everything is black or white,that there may be many shades of grey.
just had a flashback/episode yesterday that led to me hearing voices and some other crazy shit, this video was beyond helpful in helping me understand this thank you so much
I am glad the video was helpful, sorry to hear about your experience. Hearing voices is much less common with HPPD and it is not considered a typical symptom. That's not to say it is impossible for HPPD to cause it, but because it is rare (at most) I would recommend keeping an eye on symptoms like that and if you continue experiencing auditory hallucinations it would be worthwhile to mention it to a doctor.
Normal HPPD symptoms like temporary visual distortions are largely benign if they do not cause you distress, but hearing voices is often associated with other conditions that are worth being treated if it keeps happening.
The Drug Classroom yeah usually my flashbacks are just a few seconds or something of me zoning out cuz the floor is wiggling or stuff like that but this time it was like i was in a full trip, def will be watching and managing my symptoms and stuff but it’s the first time i’ve ever had auditory hallucinations so if it keeps up i’ll mention it to a doctor for sure
Very interesting video as always. This is the first professional video I have seen on this topic. I haven't seen it discussed anywhere else. Iv'e never experienced HPPD but it's interesting to learn about it.
I saw three of my friends and I was in a different room and I heard them talking 2 weeks after taking mdma it was the scariest thing I've ever experienced
I don't think that's HPPD, sounds like psychosis. :l
Are you alright/have been ok since then?
@@skcrw252 I've sometimes seen things while walking home
WTFN shiiiit are you alright? how are you doing now?
I believe I had this between the ages of 16-21. I didnt want to go to a Doctor out of the fear of being diagnosed crazy. It led me to self-medicate by drinking, but it eventually got better over time. I still cant and dont touch drugs, though. Good luck if you think you have this! It can get better
I had lingering depersonalization, and panic attacks and would feel like I was seeing myself in third person, like my voice was an echo and I was far away and everything sort of “lagged” I felt like I was far away and not my body, it was so weird, it slowly went away. Never doing shrooms again lol
WOW THANK U this would come and go but mostlyI had it for years,and it made it hard to see at night due to depth perception-i would see walls breathing but rarely-green lights would glow brighter -bit the worst part was how ditached my emotions would get it was like i was in some strange place mentality that I couldn’t quite explain to others I would just say im having a flash back to ppl close to me but it was so subtle at times and so overpowering at others.I never reported it I didn’t even know it was a thing.I realized if i was tired or or at night it seemed to be much more stonger.i can go on and on
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i think the age of starting to trip and use psychedelics is the most important factor for HPPD. Having an experience like that at a younger age can really derail a brains growth into adopting "hallucinogenic code" aka hppd
I had this after I tried LSA, took around 5 seeds of bhw and often had an aura without migraine, it was hard to read off of white paper and white backgrounds in general and I also had a lot of floaters, I often had panic attacks and I believe this was due to my anxious personality (literally thought I was going blind). This was my first psych experience other than salvia and it has sort of put me off. My HPPD has finally ended after around a year.
Perhaps you have low body weight and 5 seeds might have been a little too much
try 4-ho-met, its fun, easy to handle, not that intense, its a very lucid experience, LSA was actual torture for me
Thank God this video exists. After an awful lsd trip (super fake shit an one of the guys I was trippin with, who is not a nice person to be around in the first place, had an allergic reaction to something we were eating and we thought we would have to take him to the hospital and he almost died right in front of me in the bathtub while we're tripping!) I was seeing static patterns in everything for about 4 months and sometimes I still do and the association of the patterns to my bad trip felt like ptsd. Anytime I would be in certain lighting or around a similar environment to my bad trip it would restart all over again and I would see the patterns in everything and it made life so so so difficult. I stopped talking to anyone that did psychs after that so I never really got to relate to anyone on the matter so this video is very helpful. Bless you brutha❤
Paragraphs and words still kind of in a weird way "light up" when I look at them and carpets and rough ceilings still move a teeny weeny bit. If I think too much about my visual perception my brain will go in to manual vision mode and it will feel like I'm looking at life through a vr headset
I believe the quickest and best way to rid yourself of hppd is to not do any drugs that effect your mental or visual state and tricking your brain in to not paying attention to it. Hppd has made social interaction kind of awkward at times but it goes away after a while if you're smart about it
I get this from sleep deprivation and my history with hallucinogenic drug use is pretty minimal, weak acid once and 1gr of shrooms 2x, all well over 20yrs ago. I was a daily weed smoker for 3 yrs back then, but never experienced much hallucinations from it. I'm relatively confident it's mostly connected to general anxiety.
My theory is that it’s a form of autoimmune encephalitis. Your brain doesn’t know what to do with the substance and creates an immune response that causes inflammation and wreaks havoc on your brain for a short period of time. The immune response might target healthy cells not knowing what to attack.
This would explain several things, such as the state of mind people are in when taking the substance. If you were already sick, stressed, sleep deprived, eating poorly, or anything that causes inflammation, that might affect how your body reacted to taking the substance.
It would explain the odd headaches in the back of the head and other strange migraines a lot people report
During sleep your brain clears out toxins and heals your body in all kinds of ways which could be why sleep seems to be so beneficial and even curative.
It would explain why so many people who suffer from HPPD also suffer from autoimmune encephalitis symptoms, MS like symptoms, and other symptoms.
Lot of people affected by HPPD claim healthy lifestyle including diet, exercise, meditation, ect.. helped alleviate or even essentially cure their condition depending on the severity. That approach would reduce inflammation and allow the brain to start healing itself.
The biggest step towards healing is probably gonna be slowing getting to the right dose of lamotrigine for you, while taking every measure you can to reduce inflammation and get good sleep.
I had a vision waving last for weeks after using acid, just to understand that this "waviness" is just normal for me. I have astigmatism and my brain just learned to ignore it, but after taking LSD it just "forgot" about that.
I've had an urge to wanna try shrooms but this keeps me pausing, esp. given it seems you _don't_ necessarily have to abuse them like an addict to get it. A trip sounds fun, but I want it to be _over,_ 'ya know!
I took 60 dry grams of shrooms and it's been a year, I still see static, I feel out of place. I'm often aware that I'm looking through 2 eyes so staring at things becomes awkward to me, things often move in the corners of my eyes and wave while I stare at them, I hear a constant ringing. Shits wack
I've never heard of anyone taking that much shrooms. Have you written about your experience?
Get some Klonopin.
I definitely understand what you been by you’re aware that you’re looking through two eyes, it’s really hard for me to explain that to my doctors and therapists but it’s extremely weird, like looking at my hands & my body is super weird
@@jojob123 no I've since done a bigger amount anyway
I had Visual Snow and Tracers for 2 weeks after a 14x normal dose of 3C-P. During the trip I was blinded by merging colours of surfaces. No shapes, edges or definitions, just splodges of colour.
3C-P is a phenethylamine if i am not mistaken.
I want HPPD. If you have something that you really want in your life, spend lots of time thinking about it. The more you think the more ideas will pop up the more creative your gonna start to get. Your subconscious mind doesn't care if your vision is crazy. It doesnt care if you dont know how to do it.
When you see a thing clearly in your mind, your creative "success mechanism" within you takes over and does the job much better than you could do it by conscious effort or willpower.
A different psychedelic from a different planet every nanosecond.
All sorts of dreams are possible.
The human nervous system cannot tell the difference between an "actual" experience and an experience imagined vividly and in detail.
Synthesize "experience," to literally create experience, and control it, in the laboratory of our minds.
A vision is a very emotional image, the most powerful image that you can come up with for yourself at this time. This vision will become like a hallucination in other peoples mind and this could be the cause of them creating extraordinary things.
You should read some of the other new comments about other people's accounts, careful what you wish for
I also had mild HPPD in my early childhood (13-14) which was induced by weed. Oddly enough, I can smoke now and be just fine and have no visual distortions.
how old are u now?
Blubkeks100 21, but I was 20 at the time of that comment
How long did it take for it to go away?
evusria about two to three years.
N.W.F wtf cus I have it rn and it’s starting to go away for me did u do lsd all the time ? I only did it once mayb that’s why it lasted so long for you
HPPD is the quintessence of supposedly irreparable damage to brain fibers following a terrible trip. Thankfully, good nutrition, lamictal and benzodiazepines are the way out. Power to all warriors of the light! 💖
I’ve been stuck with derealization since March 6th 2021, I actually can’t remember how I used to perceive the world before that. It sucks.
Finally. Found a comment i relate to.
I had snow vision or enhanced squiggly lines for years after. They didn’t bother me much so I just did my best to ignore everything. I’ll admit it was scary when it first happened
Everytime i freak myself out about my hppd i remember some people are blind so, lucky me :) but idk im done eatin cud for a while hahaha
Lmaooooo same😂💯
5 year kratom user. When I withdraw I get this. Been trying to quit and no joke i feel like im tripping all day. Im talkimg heavy hppd. Feels like a tab is kicking in. Loved kratom until now. Shit sucked the fun out of life. Be safe everyone
Mild hppd after dabbling in psychedellics was awesome and welcomed but after doing acid for months it's freaking miserable
I Developed hppd like 4 days ago. I was anxious as fuck, had panic attacks, but I managed to deal with it and now it seems that I am enjoying this unstoppable trip. You just have to get over with it, there are a lot of people who have more serious problems:)
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I've had this for about a month after LSA. Morning glory seeds crazy man
it went away?
i did hawaiian baby woodrose, I couldnt throw up and i was so neasious, i just layed in the safe position incase i pass out and throw up and i was just watching my wall go absolutely bonkers, my door warping n shit, my curtains changing into light energy beams or sum shit
Think we shouldn’t be calling it a hallucination if multiple people can experience the same things
I used to take LSD with my mates every week, then we'd hit the bong and trip balls the whole night long, sometimes we'd inhale butane to give the hallucinations a boost up to the next level.
Now, many years since, I have persistent hallucinations if I smoke weed, just simple stuff like red and green geometric patterns growing everywhere, but they don't distress me or impair me. Other friends (non LSD users) who smoke the same weed do not hallucinate from it. So I am convinced I have altered my brain permanently with LSD.
Man I've heard of people huffing butane. Shit sounds MAD intense. I imagine its probably alot like doing a whippet. I loved to mix whippets with lsd. Nitrous is probably a "healthier" alternative to butane. I understand being young and dumb I still am haha.
I also definitely feel like my brain has been permanently altered by lsd. I have visual snow and if I let my weed tolerance go down or smoke alot I start to have strong psychedelic like effects. I once thought I was gonna flush my dick down the toilet on weed alone!
AssNasty this sounds like my case as well concerning the snow and weed tolerance. Guess it’s just part of it? I also love whippets w L
The red and green visuals are exactly the same for me however it slows my perception of time way way down and im stuck in this intense time dilation where my mind is faster than my surroundings and body
Fuck that
I’ve had many LSD flashbacks but they’ve always been very positive experiences
Myself and two of my friends had this after taking LSD. My friend and I got figures in our periphery and my other friend saw people in his direct FOV.
My symptoms went away after I stopped all drug use.
No other symptoms, like static and blurry vision and a brain fog? How long did it take for it to go away?
I don't mind the floaters and static and stuff but tinnitus absolutely torments me
Also known as "the thing your mom doesn't believe you actually have"
Once you understand that you're looking at the inside of your own etch A sketch, you can still play with the toy, but you'll always know what the inside of it looks like
I Have hppd. It is more noticeable when im about to go to bed and the room is pitch black. Or when im driving amd i look at the sky, there is a waving gray beyond the clouds. It always makes me remember what was told to me when i first tried lsd. "It changes the way you see the world" truthfully i wish it goes away eventually however of it does not then i have already learned to live with it.
mrisdabest2 my symptoms are always much more prevalent when I’m really tired, the room is pitch black, or I smoke weed. I feel like these are pretty common triggers and I’ve been wondering why exhaustion would trigger symptoms.
It's ok to be "crazy" just try not to let it get the best of you. Remember who you are through stressful situations.
I think I have some HPPD from my extensive Dextromethrophan abuse. Whenever i look around I still get splices from corners, just like when I would be tripping on DXM.
Dxm I took that shit way too far..
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I had a very bad trip,a bad smell and was puking,every once in a while I trip that smell again and remember the strange feeling and the green night at the time of tripping all those years ago.
I can get certain psychedelic effects via meditation and sometimes when walking or looking at huge objects.
I was just talking to a room full of seasoned old timers who were all pretty bummed out about the lack of flashbacks any of em had ever experienced
I had trails for about a week after my first really hard roll. Also felt like the world was full of love. Talk about a hallucination! 😛
Rick C I'm glad it was a positive trip at least. Nothing worse than getting too high and fighting it in your head for hours.
I had it in the 3rd degree to point I couldn’t drive and I could never understand what was wrong with me till I figured this out I’m glad people have found this early on
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I got it for a couple months after a pretty intense mushroom trip. In my experience it only lasted for about 2-3 months and then drifted away slowly
Hope you are right
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What was your symptoms? Anxiety, visual snow, dp/dr?
I get trails and I haven't dropped since dec. 92 and been completely sober for almost 7yrs
I was born with HPPD, basically. When I was a child, I would spend nights in bed watching a 8-10 second repeating pattern. These are sometimes called hypnagogic visions, but I could see them anytime. After teenage years spent eating a ton of acid, I ‘lost’ my default pattern for some years. Later, it came back and it was like seeing an old friend. I love my pattern. Blessings to all. I have HPPD and it doesn’t bother me.
I really liked this:) have a nice time
I had this. I took a heroic dose and had CEVs for a year. It was so bad that it would jolt me awake and the room would be spinning.
Had HPPD for years after using 2C chemicals in college. It's gone now, but it was very hard to look at pavement without seeing breathing and waves.
Shi my words waving like a flag just reading shit lmao
I see that as a positive. I had the same from 2c psychedelics.
@Todd Hendrix my ceiling has that popcorn texture to it and when I took 4 tabs, it started melting and revealing a slime green roof behind it. It literally looked like melting static lol, it was so trippy but awesome.