Elon Musk Vs. OpenAI - The Lawsuit

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    Elon Musk filed a lawsuit last week against OpenAI and its CEO Sam Altman, alleging the company’s deal with Microsoft compromised the start-up’s original mission. Musk is seeking disgorgement, additional unspecified damages and specific performance.
    Let’s go through these claims one by one, see what legal experts have been saying about the case. We will also discuss the Open AI memo saying that the claims in this lawsuit suit stem from Elon’s regrets about not being involved with the company today and the emails OpenAI released showing that Musk initially supported the plan to create a for-profit entity and wanted a merger that would make Tesla its "cash cow."
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  • @PBoyle
    @PBoyle  Před 2 měsíci +34

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    • @jessen00001
      @jessen00001 Před 2 měsíci +4

      I already am but thanks

    • @relwalretep
      @relwalretep Před 2 měsíci +5

      I don't want to speak in a new language in 3 weeks, I want to rap in 2.

    • @TheVoogler
      @TheVoogler Před 2 měsíci

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    • @stanvcmt4807
      @stanvcmt4807 Před 2 měsíci

      Do they have a new language that I can learn to understand how 0% chance of success lead to this lawsuit

    • @Mickey_Valentine
      @Mickey_Valentine Před měsícem

      Can it train elon musk to stop speaking 'neonazi' on twitter?

  • @JanBruunAndersen
    @JanBruunAndersen Před 2 měsíci +705

    I don't think that it has conclusively been proved that Elon Musk is human.

    • @lightworker2956
      @lightworker2956 Před 2 měsíci +24

      I don't think it's positive to dehumanize people.

    • @LN.2233
      @LN.2233 Před 2 měsíci +37

      He's a demon

    • @gamemusicify
      @gamemusicify Před 2 měsíci +15

      This is true I heard on 4chan he is a lizard person

    • @anglaismoyen
      @anglaismoyen Před 2 měsíci +38

      Musk isn't Zuckerberg. Musk is very human. Very childish though.

    • @notsam498
      @notsam498 Před 2 měsíci +14

      He's an awful example, but yeah he's human... Unfortunately.

  • @kimmatzen6504
    @kimmatzen6504 Před 2 měsíci +581

    Your Honor.
    On my reputation as CZcamss premier rap based financial review channel I can with 110% certainty declare that Elon Musk is a part of humanity.

    • @trunkage
      @trunkage Před 2 měsíci +49

      Unfortunately, if the judge ever meets Musk, they would have questions about this claim

    • @michaelmoorrees3585
      @michaelmoorrees3585 Před 2 měsíci +17

      Biologically only.

    • @andrewharrison8436
      @andrewharrison8436 Před 2 měsíci +33

      I feel this needs testing. Let me propose a traditional test from Shakespeare: If you cut me do I not bleed?
      Would the testers please form an orderly queue.

    • @cal9688
      @cal9688 Před 2 měsíci +8

      I have eyes. I'm not buying it.

    • @curtisalex456
      @curtisalex456 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@michaelmoorrees3585 not so sure 😁😁😁😁

  • @hillct
    @hillct Před 2 měsíci +168

    The most likely reason the suit was filed in California is that California specifically recognizes an enforces verbal contracts to an extent that other states typically do not. That said, even with diversity jurisdiction, the case would likely be decided using Delaware law, regardless of whether or not the case was actually tried within the borders of Delaware.

    • @most-average-athelete
      @most-average-athelete Před 2 měsíci +1

      There are no assertions of a "verbal contract" in the complaint filed by Musk and his lawyers... They list emails and inception documents as a "quasi-contract"... He is simply dodging Delaware court because this kind of bs don't last very long in DE courts. Although it is likely to be dismissed in California, it'll just stay longer on the docket.

    • @Confucius_Says...
      @Confucius_Says... Před 2 měsíci +3

      Yeah, maybe so... But the verbal contracts that you allude to, mostly have to do with the movie & music industries... I don't think that, that aspect of Cali law was to referee a pissing contest between two bored billionaires.

    • @deth3021
      @deth3021 Před 23 dny

      So only between bored millionaires.​@Confucius_Says...

  • @bubbasbigblast8563
    @bubbasbigblast8563 Před 2 měsíci +97

    The problem is, the whole nonprofit-to-profit thing is actually quite bad, because it might have been done to ensure investors would accept having less control over the eventually for-profit entity by using charity as a mask, which would basically be a deceptive trade practice.

    • @dvoiceotruth
      @dvoiceotruth Před 2 měsíci +23

      Also the 'Open' in Open AI is not open source as the founders are revealing right now in response to the lawsuit. They could have named it Humanity AI, Freedom AI, Social Service AI and so on.

    • @DoubLL
      @DoubLL Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@dvoiceotruth I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you implying that any business with "Open" in it's name must make all its code / work publicly available?
      Because otherwise I don't see how that name could have anything to do with a "deceptive trade practice".

    • @dvoiceotruth
      @dvoiceotruth Před 2 měsíci

      Yes. When you are a tech company that produces software IP. Open means that only. Were it open source, there would already be a checker or tool to find out whose image it has been trained on or something like that. I am also saying because for many engineers and tech VC investors 'Open' amounts to a mythical holy grail that they can happily work for without getting anything in return. This already attracted a lot of talent, positive press, and investment starting from 2015 and people missed to see where it was all leading to.@@DoubLL

    • @anushagr14
      @anushagr14 Před 2 měsíci +25

      ​@@DoubLLthey raised money with the notion that it will be open source.

    • @zGrowthLabs
      @zGrowthLabs Před 2 měsíci +14

      What’s interesting to me is just how much of the ‘i hate capitalism’ crowd is not addressing this very real concern simply due to their dislike of Musk.

  • @secsuckitdeep
    @secsuckitdeep Před 2 měsíci +120

    Something for the legend Adam Neumann here? "Launching as a non-profit before tansferring the IP into a for profit"-pure genius..

    • @airsevens
      @airsevens Před 2 měsíci +13

      Very pure and in the spirit of nonprofits

    • @SloverOfTeuth
      @SloverOfTeuth Před 2 měsíci

      I think it depends. If equity in the for-profit is issued on arms-length terms, with the non-profit retaining its pro rata share, then it's just a financing scheme. It makes a lot of sense given that non-profits may have restricted financing options and debt might be inappropriate.

    • @David-ud9ju
      @David-ud9ju Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@SloverOfTeuth Or maybe they realised they'd made a mistake and would actually quite like to be billionaires so have found a loop hole that allows them to make money from a non-profit.

  • @awijntje14
    @awijntje14 Před 2 měsíci +118

    So good to hear Patrick talk about what he loves "beef in the billionaire rap scene"....

  • @kwisatzsawyer
    @kwisatzsawyer Před 2 měsíci +184

    Excellent visual aid. 10/10.

  • @jsnlgrrtt
    @jsnlgrrtt Před 2 měsíci +33

    I often wonder how a financial youtuber could have one of the funniest channels on the platform.

    • @martymarl4602
      @martymarl4602 Před 2 měsíci +4

      both finance and comedy require high intelligence. He has it

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon Před 2 měsíci

      his laurel n hardy dress sense

    • @lordphonix0994
      @lordphonix0994 Před dnem

      its rap news

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon Před dnem

      @@martymarl4602 finance doesnt require hgh intelligence at all tho it can help in certain roles

  • @GAHAHAHH
    @GAHAHAHH Před 2 měsíci +22

    It seems criminal to me that they can call it "OpenAI" and have no part of it be open source by any stretch of the imagination.

    • @sca04245
      @sca04245 Před měsícem +4

      In anything Musk has been involved, words have no meaning.

    • @MA-go7ee
      @MA-go7ee Před měsícem

      ​@@sca04245 Elon Musk is the one who wants it to be open. You people just mouth off without even knowing what's going on.

    • @sca04245
      @sca04245 Před měsícem +2

      @@MA-go7ee 'founder' 'full self driving' 'highly confident that'

    • @sca04245
      @sca04245 Před měsícem +3

      @@MA-go7ee 2019: "It is financially insane to buy anything other than a tesla. It'll be like owning a horse in three years."

  • @Bewilderebeest
    @Bewilderebeest Před 2 měsíci +314

    The world would be a worse place if we all had the money to file lawsuits just because we were feeling salty 😂

    • @catsupchutney
      @catsupchutney Před 2 měsíci +21

      Obviously the law firm Dewey, Cheatem and Howe is thinking of those sweet billable hours.

    • @justhecuke
      @justhecuke Před 2 měsíci

      In a lot of places, you don't need much money to file lawsuits. Some of them have what amounts to legal welfare where fees and such are waived for sufficiently poor people. Most just don't have very high fees. Maybe a few hundred for the paperwork and stamps.

    • @TheThreatenedSwan
      @TheThreatenedSwan Před 2 měsíci +7

      They have violated their founding mission. It's just that courts generally don't care and especially aren't going to fight Microsoft over. It would be a good legal precedent, but no, everyone should blindly hate on Musk and boot-lick Microsoft

    • @unconventionalideas5683
      @unconventionalideas5683 Před 2 měsíci +14

      Founding missions are not necessarily legally binding, but never mind...@@TheThreatenedSwan

    • @TheThreatenedSwan
      @TheThreatenedSwan Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@unconventionalideas5683 that is the same as "sometimes they are legally binding"

  • @Confucius_Says...
    @Confucius_Says... Před 2 měsíci +342

    Looks like Musk's legal brief was written by Chat Gpt😂

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 Před 2 měsíci +23

      lol, but seriously I want to know what firm is handling this case for Musk.😅
      I can sort of see Musk’s point, but I don’t think this case will go anywhere. Nor is he the best messenger.

    • @esterhudson5104
      @esterhudson5104 Před 2 měsíci +5

      It’s standardized for lots of law firms for some time.

    • @solomonshv
      @solomonshv Před 2 měsíci +11

      @@MarcosElMalo2 this suit is being spearheaded by the law firm of Pay & For & My & Yacht

    • @cycleistic1365
      @cycleistic1365 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Case Chat GPT vs. Open AI

    • @Confucius_Says...
      @Confucius_Says... Před 2 měsíci

      @@cycleistic1365 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Wanderer2035
    @Wanderer2035 Před 2 měsíci +6

    He left OpenAI years ago, and made no legal contract on how OpenAI should be continued, and he thinks he gets a say so on how OpenAI should continue??? When he left OpenAI he forfeited that right. Now he has just as much say so as any other standard employee that quits OpenAI

  • @isaacmartin2026
    @isaacmartin2026 Před 2 měsíci +13

    Damn you Patrick... Two minutes in and your set gag already has me spluttering coffee! Love the dry wit you pepper wry observation with.

    • @ericwobschall8410
      @ericwobschall8410 Před 2 měsíci

      No one deftly slides barbed wire under your arse like the “Wait, what?” John Malkovich of CZcams commentators.

  • @Bobbobbob984
    @Bobbobbob984 Před 2 měsíci +46

    The problem with this "tax loophole" is that donating money only gets you limited say on what the nonprofit does. The nonprofit still has a fiduciary duty to the public to advance it's mission. This LLC as it's found apparently does as well. If they aren't acting accordingly the attorney general would have to be involved it sounds like.

    • @scarletsletter4466
      @scarletsletter4466 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Exactly, it cannot work as described here. I work in a different tech industry that often licenses tech from universities & nonprofit entities that receive various preferred tax treatment. It’s a given for us that we must set up a new entity to commercialize a product. We are not legally permitted to take investments to develop a technology while using a nonprofit structure to avoid taxes & regulation. It’s utterly absurd that anyone thinks this is feasible and I assume OpenAI, Microsoft & whoever else is involved is headed for a world of hurt eventually as a result of whatever was attempted here

    • @michaelbryant2071
      @michaelbryant2071 Před 2 měsíci

      Not if your Donald Trump. Example; he viewed his own non-profit as a profit center.

    • @Bobbobbob984
      @Bobbobbob984 Před 2 měsíci

      Well the attorney generals are apparently supposed to monitor these non-profits. I mean I'd be down for the IRS or another federal agency to have much greater rules for monitoring and nonprofit transparency. In a fair world, we do something about scientology and religions would have to separate for profit and nonprofit arms.

  • @Schemilix
    @Schemilix Před 2 měsíci +21

    The cybertruck visual got me good

  • @Planko991
    @Planko991 Před 2 měsíci +58

    If Elon was profiting off of OpenAI, he sure as hell wouldn't have sued them now lmao.

    • @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_
      @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ Před 2 měsíci +1

      Can be said for almost any lawsuit ever

    • @AllMyGabens
      @AllMyGabens Před 2 měsíci

      Youre right. But I still think OpenAI is too dangerous for progress to be made for any interest other than the public's. So I still think the lawsuit is a good thing to bring foreward.

  • @patrick1234qdefhwdt
    @patrick1234qdefhwdt Před 2 měsíci +28

    As a Delawarean I do appreciate Musk staying out of our state as much as possible. Good on him

  • @MrNmc09331
    @MrNmc09331 Před 2 měsíci +70

    Have you guys heard about the lawyers asking for 6 Bil in fees, for the tesla payment package lawsuit? To be paid in Tesla shares. makes it to 288k an hour, lawyer costs. I should have been a lawyer!

    • @durkdiggler4346
      @durkdiggler4346 Před 2 měsíci +13

      Lmao no way any judge actually allows that it's Ludacris

    • @michaelholmes924
      @michaelholmes924 Před 2 měsíci +10

      Its not like the lawyers won a bunch of money for their client. They just forced Tesla to reconsider Musks compensation.

    • @brianhourigan
      @brianhourigan Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@durkdiggler4346 it is exceptionally hip hop alright

    • @brunoheggli2888
      @brunoheggli2888 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Thars great!I am happy for them!

    •  Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@durkdiggler4346Nothing to do with judges.

  • @AGS363
    @AGS363 Před 2 měsíci +84

    Wow, I was not aware about the importance of 50 cent for the development of AI.

    • @esterhudson5104
      @esterhudson5104 Před 2 měsíci +5

      It’s a metaphor for its value next year.

    • @ultimaIXultima
      @ultimaIXultima Před 2 měsíci +2

      That's why we need Patrick - he gives us these nuggets of rap genius!

  • @michaelvandernaald418
    @michaelvandernaald418 Před 2 měsíci +39

    I really appreciated and benefitted from the set theoretic explanations in the video. Thanks, Patrick.

  • @CobaltLobster
    @CobaltLobster Před 2 měsíci +118

    It was filed in CA because it would have already been dismissed as BS in DE.

    • @Velereonics
      @Velereonics Před 2 měsíci

      so true. as silicon valley continues to spiral i assume we will see even more of this type of legal dumbassery

  • @govindagovindaji4662
    @govindagovindaji4662 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Come to think of it, isn't Elon Musk the same guy who upped the price of electric cars after having already pre-sold them at a set price and off with just a shrug of his shoulders, just expected people to pay the difference~?

  • @jessesambro9535
    @jessesambro9535 Před 2 měsíci +24

    Patrick really busting out set theory

  • @beeman1408
    @beeman1408 Před 2 měsíci +54

    I'm somewhat concerned that the reason the lawsuit sometimes refers to the recipient of the fiduciary duty of the company interchangebly between him and humanity is that Musk believes himself to be a voice of humanity.
    It wouldn't be completely out of character for that wacko.
    I can totally see him standing, towering over his team of lawyers, screaming "I AM HUMANITY, I AM THE LAW".
    And I also apologise if the statement above is not clearly worded, English is not my first language.

    • @thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279
      @thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 Před 2 měsíci +7

      I can imagine that too.

    • @kyneticist
      @kyneticist Před 2 měsíci +10

      Musks extraordinary narcissism knows no bounds.

    • @LonceyMills
      @LonceyMills Před 2 měsíci +6

      No problem with your comment. You still got the point across quite clearly.

    • @penponds
      @penponds Před měsícem

      As preposterous as imagining Fauxi declaring “I REPRESENT SCIENCE”.
      Oh wait…

    • @NickanM
      @NickanM Před měsícem +1

      The guy is a megalomaniac. 😑

  • @emanuellandeholm5657
    @emanuellandeholm5657 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Thanks for the subsets illustration. I was getting confused.

  • @ElbowShouldersen
    @ElbowShouldersen Před 2 měsíci +78

    I guess this sort of lawsuit is what should be expected if a company's founders were all microdosing when they formed their enterprise...

    • @moipaslui2924
      @moipaslui2924 Před 2 měsíci +10

      Nah microdosing would barely have any effect. This is proper macrodosing. Whether it's coke, LSD, shrooms, alcohol or others, one can only wonder.

    • @ElbowShouldersen
      @ElbowShouldersen Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@moipaslui2924 "barely any effect"... sir, with all respect, if you think "microdosing" is not a form of tripping, then you are tripping... Using hallucinogens as a stimulant enhances the psychotic component of one's actions even if the person who has dosed themself does seem "functional" to others...

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon Před 2 měsíci

      zzz@@ElbowShouldersen

    • @stereo-soulsoundsystem5070
      @stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 Před měsícem

      You're uneducated on the subject and should speak less on it. Microdosing is a near bullshit concept and hasn't even been proven. They were either tripping or not. Tell me you're scared of psychotropics without saying that...

  • @UncleJoeLITE
    @UncleJoeLITE Před 2 měsíci +7

    Looking very dapper, sir. Wasn't expecting this today.

  • @Bekayvd
    @Bekayvd Před 2 měsíci +4

    That bow tie is absolutely God tier

  • @charlesclauss7545
    @charlesclauss7545 Před 2 měsíci +5

    That Venn Diagram did some important work. You should be paid

  • @Corgiking521
    @Corgiking521 Před 2 měsíci +95

    Elons mad he isn’t in charge and can’t tell the world how great he is for running OpenAI 😂.
    What a cry baby

    • @calebhare2416
      @calebhare2416 Před 2 měsíci +5

      ‘Founder of’ more like

    • @1seneschal
      @1seneschal Před 2 měsíci +21

      @@calebhare2416Irrelevant, founders get pushed out or leave all the time.
      He’s just complaining about OpenAI’s success & how he can’t take credit for shit. He literally said the organization/company would fail when he left.
      Then Altman worked with others to bring it to fruition despite that.

    • @JReklis
      @JReklis Před 2 měsíci

      Hes mad that they labotomised it for the benefit of operation mockingbird

    • @martymarl4602
      @martymarl4602 Před 2 měsíci +4

      THIS....Apartheid Clyde has sour grapes syndrome

    • @zesky6654
      @zesky6654 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@lolitsnito like he forced out the tesla founders and pretended to be the sole founder.

  • @angel_I_s
    @angel_I_s Před 2 měsíci +5

    Exceptional.. May I add... "My Dad, when he was alive, used a lump hammer like a Sonic Screwdriver..., a man well ahead of his time"..., (As are you Patrick). Dave

  • @catsupchutney
    @catsupchutney Před 2 měsíci +48

    So the tl/dr is that Musk is rich enough to file a nuisance lawsuit.

  • @umadbra
    @umadbra Před 2 měsíci +5

    Literally taking his ball and went home because they wouldn't let him be CEO.
    Biggest cry baby ever.

  • @juwright1949
    @juwright1949 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Absolutely outstanding! I am always impressed with your research, preparation and delivery of your videos. Well done. 👍🏻

  • @Maxmaxmax63
    @Maxmaxmax63 Před 2 měsíci +5

    That mathematical chart was SUPER helpful, thank you for sharing!

  • @Rose-ec6he
    @Rose-ec6he Před 2 měsíci +3

    I absolutely love your occasional creative deadpan humour

  • @billfrehe6620
    @billfrehe6620 Před 2 měsíci +23

    Can you imagine having so much free time and money that you can file absurd lawsuits against your competitors and perceived enemies??? I'm not sure I would waste my time.

    • @theultimatereductionist7592
      @theultimatereductionist7592 Před 2 měsíci +9

      I thought Musk was too busy "building Tesla cars".

    • @effthebourgeoisie
      @effthebourgeoisie Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@theultimatereductionist7592right 😂

    • @TheThreatenedSwan
      @TheThreatenedSwan Před 2 měsíci +2

      His argument is sound, it's just that the courts never go after 501c3s for violating their charter unless they're organizations the state doesn't like. But I'm glad the hate for Elon means we'll ignore that OpenAI is now a subsidiary of Microsoft

    • @Foolish188
      @Foolish188 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Trump does this all the time, and then stiffs his attorneys. If you don't have a boatload of money, don't anger a rich sleeze.

    • @whatisanamelol
      @whatisanamelol Před 2 měsíci +1

      You've done nothing with your time anyway, so who cares about if you'd bother or not?

  • @musicnotenshi
    @musicnotenshi Před 2 měsíci +39

    Hopefully Ilon would not get yourself bankrupt too fast with all of those lawsuits, as I barely accustomed to loss of Credit Suisse references.

    • @Confucius_Says...
      @Confucius_Says... Před 2 měsíci +5

      😂😂😂😂😂 Credit Suisse was the gift that kept on giving... Until they went under...

    • @makuru_dd3662
      @makuru_dd3662 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@Confucius_Says... Too sad, it was my comic relief bank.

    • @Confucius_Says...
      @Confucius_Says... Před 2 měsíci

      @@makuru_dd3662 🤣🤣🤣👌

  • @user-em8fq2ev4b
    @user-em8fq2ev4b Před 2 měsíci +9

    Are you a 100% sure the subset of Elon Musk falls under humanity?

  • @johnmcquaid7524
    @johnmcquaid7524 Před 2 měsíci +6

    The dry humour.. awesome 😎
    Very interesting topic.

  • @georgeh6856
    @georgeh6856 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Elon Musk, the wealthiest Karen in the world. (Let the trolling by stupid fan boys begin.)

  • @frustratedalien666
    @frustratedalien666 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Musk really wishes he was the CEO of OpenAI instead of Sam 😂

  • @SH-ly1uy
    @SH-ly1uy Před 2 měsíci +66

    Even Musks day has only 24 hours. Instead of spending time with his lawyers I thought he has other stuff to fix

    • @kaynkayn9870
      @kaynkayn9870 Před 2 měsíci +7

      If I was a billionaire, I would do all the random side quest as much as I want.

    • @Arigator2
      @Arigator2 Před 2 měsíci +31

      I think he fixes stuff by staying away so people who actually know what they're doing can get stuff done.

    • @trunkage
      @trunkage Před 2 měsíci

      Musk has been deploying lawyers ro take companies since Paypal. This is how he get his money
      It sure isn't a side quest. Its the main event

    • @esterhudson5104
      @esterhudson5104 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Spending time with his lawyers? That’s not happening😊

    • @pansepot1490
      @pansepot1490 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Lately he’s been breaking more than fixing. More time spent with his lawyers means less time for dumb Twits.

  • @60-second-HACKS
    @60-second-HACKS Před 2 měsíci +3

    Did anyone else notice that Babel has a promise of results over 3 weeks (21 days)
    and a money-back guarantee up to 20 days?

  • @fzigunov
    @fzigunov Před 2 měsíci +13

    Set A and set B 😂😂😂
    I'm gasping for air, Patrick! 😂

  • @aprilcalhoun8984
    @aprilcalhoun8984 Před 2 měsíci +6

    This video reinforces my impression that Elon Musk wants to live in a world where he controls everything.

    • @NickanM
      @NickanM Před měsícem +2

      _Amen. The guy frightens me._

  • @jaredkronk4614
    @jaredkronk4614 Před 2 měsíci +36

    Way to rock the bow tie!

    • @djsmithe
      @djsmithe Před 2 měsíci +6

      Fashion icon.

    • @jerrymartin7019
      @jerrymartin7019 Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@djsmithe
      fashionista, rap afficionado, is there nothing this man can't do?

    • @Sadiregu1619
      @Sadiregu1619 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@jerrymartin7019 Make sense of Credit Suisse.

    • @djsmithe
      @djsmithe Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@jerrymartin7019 I like his velvet jacket. It probably Tom Ford.

    • @wertacus
      @wertacus Před 2 měsíci +1

      On the heels of the new Prada collection as well. I think it's a bold move executed flawlessly.

  • @AsheAve
    @AsheAve Před 2 měsíci +6

    Patrick kills me with his dry humor.

  • @ldplays5663
    @ldplays5663 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I love his acid humour.

  • @willramirez75
    @willramirez75 Před 2 měsíci +19

    I fucking love this guy’s deadpan style. Well done, my guy.

    • @ppbur
      @ppbur Před 2 měsíci

      He has autism.

  • @carlolepelaars
    @carlolepelaars Před 2 měsíci +7

    Patrick Boyle is probably the only person who can pull off being a great comedian, rap news reporter and finance expert! 😁

  • @jimmyyu2184
    @jimmyyu2184 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Yes! I want to see Mr Patrick B as expert witness, willing to pay good money to fly/stay at the city where the case will be held.
    I want to see Mr Patrick's expert testimony on (w)rap music and the implication(s) on OpenAI and E. Musk. =)))

  • @johnappleseed6422
    @johnappleseed6422 Před 2 měsíci +3

    You are doing great work here! Consistent, always interesting, and informative.

  • @MichaelWilliamz
    @MichaelWilliamz Před 2 měsíci +2

    Best videos on CZcams. Great topic, well explained, very thorough and insightful. I wish you released these more often. I love the way you think.

  • @jimjimgl3
    @jimjimgl3 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Isn't Elon Musk the person who, for $100K, lets you drive a stainless steel refrigerator?

  • @filipsvideohjrne5223
    @filipsvideohjrne5223 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I love the hand drawn diagram ❤😂

  • @shaw7598
    @shaw7598 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Poor Elon missing out the entire AGI stock boom. I feel so sorry for him

  • @liam3284
    @liam3284 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Maybe a question about pretending the for profit venture is charitable, but the rest of the suit is unhinged.

    • @scarletsletter4466
      @scarletsletter4466 Před 2 měsíci

      He’s trying to initiate a public conversation and to snoop around OpenAI during discovery. If they say yes, they’re giving info to Musk who’s a competitor, but if they say no, that goes against their stated mission as a non-profit that’s developing this tech to make public for everyone.
      Musk’s lawsuit isn’t particularly well-formulated, but I think the corp structure of OpenAI must be changed. You cannot get billions to license products to Microsoft (the most valuable public company) while claiming to be a non-profit to avoid taxes. It’s the height of absurdity

  • @Rosula_D
    @Rosula_D Před 2 měsíci +3

    Your dunking on Apartheid Clyde always makes my day ☺️ thank you!

  • @artificercreator
    @artificercreator Před 2 měsíci +3

    Good video, thanks for explaining it.

  • @sfdntk
    @sfdntk Před 2 měsíci +10

    We seriously need to thank God, and Sam Altman, for making sure Elon Musk wasn't able to take control of OpenAI in the way he wanted to.

  • @johnfranchina84
    @johnfranchina84 Před 2 měsíci +2

    He wants to own OpenAI to rename it OpenX so it seamlessly integrates with X.

  • @thesheb8311
    @thesheb8311 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This thumbnail deserves an award.

  • @petergarrone8242
    @petergarrone8242 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Once you have donated to charity and claimed a tax benefit, your investment is gone. All you have is a feeling of virtue.

  • @michaelmityok1001
    @michaelmityok1001 Před 2 měsíci +11

    I think Musk is not naive to think he can "win" the lawsuit, but he's playing a long game by drawing attention to OpenAI's structure, the realities of its operations and its true fiduciary duties that others including government will pursue.

    • @trevorhenriques7733
      @trevorhenriques7733 Před 2 měsíci

      Why do some people go WAAAAY out of their way to try to believe that Elon Musk is anything but what he appears to be ! ?
      An IDIOT !

    • @leonfa259
      @leonfa259 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I think he doesn't trust the future of AI in Microsofts and Googles hands and I don't trust them either.

    • @trevorhenriques7733
      @trevorhenriques7733 Před 2 měsíci

      As opposed to the hands of Elon Musk, a deranged racist and megalomaniac ?@@leonfa259

  • @1049662
    @1049662 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Musk missed the boat that wasn't accepting passengers, complains that he isn't the captain and argues that this is an affront to everyone and therefore they should work for free and also give him money. That about sum it up?

  • @craigcullen4171
    @craigcullen4171 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Awesome !! Thank you

  • @0xCAFEF00D
    @0xCAFEF00D Před 2 měsíci +2

    3:00
    I don't know if that's a good idea Patrick. Appearing as an expert witness outside the subject of rap seems odd.

  • @LARPing_Services_LLC
    @LARPing_Services_LLC Před 2 měsíci +3

    10/10 Outfit (and video), Mr. Boyle.

  • @wv9529
    @wv9529 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Woah , Elon Musk looks terrible once you dig in this complaint.

  • @Kevin_Street
    @Kevin_Street Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you for another wonderful video! You've covered this issue so completely it's difficult to think of anything to comment on. It does seem like the most interesting aspect of the lawsuit is the spotlight it throws upon OpenAI's unusual corporate structure. A for-profit company controlled by a non-profit company does seem a bit like having your cake and eating it too. As you said, they can do things like have a close corporate relationship with Microsoft while still avoiding antitrust issues. It sounds like the US government will have the last word on that.

  • @besomewheredosomething
    @besomewheredosomething Před 2 měsíci +10

    Makes one wonder if this is really about OpenAI, but more about the tax code considering the current issues with R&D tax credits being revoked a couple years back.

  • @FizzleFX
    @FizzleFX Před 2 měsíci +2

    Musk: no contract, no stakes, no basis, but a lot of 'i am so jealous and i need at least to beat one AI corp to go so i can get my monopole or at least any use out of my crap..."

  • @mikeharrington5593
    @mikeharrington5593 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thankyou Patrick for pitching your expert analysis into Musk's gimme gimme tantrums

  • @rogenjosh
    @rogenjosh Před 2 měsíci +15

    looking sharp Patrick👔

    • @pansepot1490
      @pansepot1490 Před 2 měsíci +1

      He always looks sharp. All his suits look bespoke.

    • @edwodehouse9528
      @edwodehouse9528 Před 2 měsíci

      Sartorial sponsorship by Chevrolet.

  • @ErikHare
    @ErikHare Před 2 měsíci +1

    Before you sign a contract you should consult legal experts. Never consult illegal experts.

  • @AbuAfakski
    @AbuAfakski Před 2 měsíci +3

    Brilliant take down 🙏

  • @dgo4490
    @dgo4490 Před 2 měsíci +17

    At this point this is a classic - you start something seemingly noble, people get their money or data invested in it, and then you sell it all out to the highest bidder. That should be a capital crime!

    • @TheManinBlack9054
      @TheManinBlack9054 Před 2 měsíci

      There should be no capital crimes, its not very progressive.

    • @zagreus5773
      @zagreus5773 Před 2 měsíci +2

      You want to make it punishable by death????

    • @dgo4490
      @dgo4490 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@zagreus5773Yep, if done at a large scale.

    • @trunkage
      @trunkage Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@dgo4490bro, this is Capitalism. Every company Musk owns followed rhese rules ans Musk was the highest bidder (until Twitter)

    • @dgo4490
      @dgo4490 Před 2 měsíci

      @@trunkageIt should apply to everyone. If there's more societal harm caused by a crime than the offender can repay

  • @StefanMedici
    @StefanMedici Před 2 měsíci +1

    Haven't watched this yet, but already know the humour is going to be drier than the Sahara. And more scathing than something very scathing.

  • @KSignalEingang
    @KSignalEingang Před 2 měsíci +2

    Is there any way both Musk and OpenAI can lose this case? Because that seems like the ideal outcome to me.

  • @willumbermarchant5510
    @willumbermarchant5510 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Tbf, the idea of non-profits turning into corporations when they've built something sellable is a frightening loophole. Tho that's obviously not musks motivation here.

  • @roberthines2741
    @roberthines2741 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I come here for knowledge and humour and this time you hit ball out of the park Patrick, lol!

  • @maiastela
    @maiastela Před 2 měsíci +1

    I love your deadpan style, but the way you said “Encantanto de conocherte” was so cute, it gave me years of life 🥹

  • @tripillthreat
    @tripillthreat Před 2 měsíci +21

    In addition to seeking attention, Musk - who is currently developing for-profit AI - is simply looking to slow down a company that he, quite optimistically, sees as a competitor.

    • @deths1679
      @deths1679 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Right. It makes no sense to say I want my investment back because you didnt give the product away for free or let me be the sole control of it. He wants to be the greater good as well as the great gatekeeper extorting humanity. More like the great gaslighter 😂

  • @IvarDaigon
    @IvarDaigon Před 2 měsíci +3

    Some of the arguments in the case have merit but Elon asking for damages is comical.. what did they damage? his ego?

  • @kristianweeks9204
    @kristianweeks9204 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Elon gave his public word that he would drop the lawsuit if the board changed the general name to "ClosedAI".

  • @Rob-147
    @Rob-147 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Poor little Elon

  • @TheTrainstation
    @TheTrainstation Před 2 měsíci +2

    I was hoping for this vid

  • @lazslostpierre9951
    @lazslostpierre9951 Před 2 měsíci +8

    The muskrat has a whiff of desperation about him these days.

    • @martymarl4602
      @martymarl4602 Před 2 měsíci

      He wants the tech to help save his self crashing cars...

  • @subcitizen2012
    @subcitizen2012 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This wouldn't be happening if Musk didn't have any money.

  • @vanhuvanhuvese2738
    @vanhuvanhuvese2738 Před 2 měsíci +67

    Musk is right open AI set a bad example of Non profit organization. However Musk did not think open AI will be this successful otherwise he would never have donated or asked for stake and good ownership structure before giving them the initial capital he feels owed billions and this is the real issue.

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz Před 2 měsíci +39

      He's clearly salty that he didn't get in on it with AI, like when he demanded a 6 month stop on AI development to probably get own progress at Tesla to catch up

    • @Moonhermit-
      @Moonhermit- Před 2 měsíci +14

      "This house fire is out of control and needs to be put out!" says man who brought the fuel and matches to the arsonist meetup, after he didn't get reimbursed his costs.

    • @cv990a4
      @cv990a4 Před 2 měsíci +19

      Elon's just sore that Open AI is way out in front of his own AI efforts and that he made a big mistake by not staying involved.
      AI has been one of Elon's hobby horses for a long time. That he's well behind the curve, with Open AI way out in front, and probably Google too, irks him no end, especially since it was his own decision that he walked away from Open AI.
      Basically, Musk believes he has special insight into AI, yet he finds himself as somewhat of an also-ran as the company he helped organize is now way out in front, showing that he made a huge mistake in not staying involved.
      Meanwhile, the EV market oversupplied - recently Apple took a decision to stop working on EVs and devote the AI resources in the project to AGI, in part because they no longer see how to make money in EVs. Taking nothing away from Elon in having the insight on how to make EVs popular, it seems pretty clear that the competitive landscape for Tesla is just going to get harder and harder.
      In other words, AGI now overshadows EV in terms of tech sexiness. But Musk finds himself way behind on AGI, so he wants to force Open AI to basically give him all the tech they have, for free.

    • @sspectre8217
      @sspectre8217 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@cv990a4yeah this is probably the best comment I’ve seen explaining this. I highly doubt Elon expects to win this lawsuit but he could get OpenAI to divulge some their tech which I’d bet is what he’s actually after

    • @GuyJames
      @GuyJames Před 2 měsíci

      @@cv990a4 yes, and he's also way behind the likes of Mistral and Stability, who make genuinely open source models. If he'd done something similar he might have had more of a case rather than his 'based' for profit LLM that no-one actually uses.

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan Před 2 měsíci +1

    These organizations never are held to their original mission. Musk is right about it just being an organization for Microsoft's benefit.

  • @DismasBeats
    @DismasBeats Před 2 měsíci +3

    love u Patrick

  • @who2u333
    @who2u333 Před 2 měsíci +2

    401k was for Hughes? I had heard that it was for Kodak. Hence the 'k'.

  • @Kai...999
    @Kai...999 Před měsícem

    Mr, Boyle, I've been consuming your content for like a day and this is probably the quickest I've subscribed to someone. Great content, and I'm not business oriented I'm an engineer, so you make things detailed yet understandable. I also like your level of well deserved shade.

  • @theaboveaveragejoe
    @theaboveaveragejoe Před 2 měsíci +2

    You should have over 1Mil subscribers.

  • @colin-nekritz
    @colin-nekritz Před 2 měsíci +9

    Poor Space Karen. He’s already so rich he’ll never be able to spend his money in 100 lifetimes, and now Phony Stark wants more.

  • @liamhotspur9182
    @liamhotspur9182 Před 2 měsíci +1

    brilliant!

  • @ols7462
    @ols7462 Před 2 měsíci +2

    How will this lawsuit affect my strategy of selling low and buying high?