Assembling & Running a Miniature INLINE 6 Engine! (Ford 300 Style)
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Awful results. 2800RPM at idle.
It’s a two stroke engine, yeah it’s gonna idle a little higher
4 stroke it has a cam and valves.@@elisiple8954
and it is tiny it does not have the rotating mass to hold a low rpm
@@elisiple8954wdym it's a 4 stroke. Inlet valve/exhaust valve/camshaft. 2 stroke dose not have that
@@letsstepaplay are you saying 2 strokes dont have intake/exhaust valves and camshafts or am I misunderstanding your comment?
It’s a real shame that having created and engineered items like this & at great expense to the purchaser that the manufacturer lets the little items down like a poorly designed water pump & having to re manufacture the distributor casing. Great videos as always. Thanks
They probably only make the engine block, head and related items and outsource the reast.
@jwalster9412 for 5k it better be damn perfect. These cost more than real engines it ridiculous
@@PneumaticFrog Which is funny, because that's not 5k worth of materials or work put into those parts. For about the "same" price you get a Conley Stinger 609... which is a lot of engine, and built much, much better. This is a CNC engine, the cost is really around 1000~2000 dollars.
@@aserta I agree from a practical sense it isnt worth much, but the r&d and machining alone can ramp prices of these little parts quickly. They likely aren't producing these like ford produced the 300, en masse.
Coming from an manufacturing background, I'm surprised they can churn out all these custom parts for less than $5000!
Made in China…
Thank you so much for not playing annoying music during the build!!!!!
Lies again? MILF Division Anticlockwise Rimjob
I'd be interested to see you revisit the mini engine dyno concept to get an idea how performant these engines really are.
I would something like this puts out so miniscule a number it wouldn't be worth it. Even some of the bigger v8 motors would only push a horse or two tops.
@@UN-intelligentit would still be interesting to see what they are actually capable of
@@UN-intelligentdepends on the CC rating. a 50CC motor can apparently push 1.6HP so if these are like 10cc its probably like .6HP but still cool to see maybe if we figure a way to scale it up to see if its close to the real life counterpart in that respect
@@UN-intelligent supposedly it makes 3 hp but idk how true that is
@@UN-intelligentyou'd be surprised 😂
It’s actually great piece for any young enthusiast to learn how an actual engine is put together, from a smaller perspective. While yes it’s small, and parts may differ, one could learn how to put big engines together from this, all the way from tearing it down as well. It really gets to the basic fundamentals and functionality of how a big engine is built.
This is my thinking as well. Provides the basic concepts of what's required at the bare minimum. Helps ease the learning curve a bit.
I Agree but for this price you could literaly buy a whole Car to learn maintenance Work :/
@@m.d.6649 It's funny you mention that, because when I went to look at the prices, I thought the exact same thing. $6000+
You could literally just buy a used car and spend time fixing the real engine. 😄
Or buy a junk engine from a wrecker.
@@r.b.ratieta6111 It's $1300,- according to the link in the video description. Still a lot of money for basically a gimmick imo, but not ludicrous 6k..
As a long time owner of a Ford F-150 with the 300 inline 6 engine, and the 300th viewer to give a thumbs up, I think that the way the engine revved up during the break-in period sounded right.
I bet you didn't wind it up to 10k tho😮
Me to . 347,000 miles
Having owned a couple of Ford 300s I’m a big fan of them, they are absolute brutes and damn near indestructible. I really like this one and is the best sounding engine so far.
My 1980 Fairmont had one in it...between Jegs, JC Whitney and Summit, I turned that thing into a pretty fun sleeper...JC Whitney was only about a 15min drive from me, so that made things pretty easy...wasn't a terrible ride for 18 year old me in 1995...lol
Yeah its surprising how similar this thing runs to a 300 really love it
in high school I had a beater with the 300, we got in a pickle up north in des moines and wound up sending it with no coolant 250 miles south! we never thought we'd make it...
@@zethes66 my favorite was a 1966 F series with a 4 speed and limited slip rear end… sumbitch was unstoppable.
@@zethes66 Those engines were nearly bomb proof...lol
Thanks, that was fun to watch. Made me think of working on my '66 Dodge Dart with a "slant 6". I was lucky to have a good friend who was an excellent mechanic who taught me how to do a tune-up (new plugs, points, rotor, condenser, and distributor cap) most importantly how to use a feeler gauge to set the new points correctly. He advised me to always buy "racing parts", whenever possible (a little more expensive, but well worth it because they last longer). He taught me how to replace brake shoes and gave me the confidence to do it by myself. My next car, a Dodge Aspen wagon had the same slant six engine, so I saved a ton of money on car maintainance.
Not normally into these small engines but I learned a few tips and tricks on making my own gaskets. That alone was worth the watch. Thanks! Great editing on video also.
If the distributor is turned all the way in one direction to get the timing correct - just move all the plug wires one position the other way on the cap - and you'll be back in the middle of the slot. Thanks for the videos.
That's a pretty good idea, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work.
Would love to see a 6 to 1 exhuast collector, it would sound amazing.
it would sound better, now its sounds well ..
I also wish to see that
They sound the best and are most efficient with a 6-3-2-1 long tube setup
@@dipstiksubaru3246equal length 6-1 headers by far sound the most exotic, but yeah 6-3-2-1 headers would make more power.
6 into 1, equal length, rotational firing order
That's just like a Ford 300 i6. So freaking cool!!! Love that engine!!!
Errrr... The title says that.
Hi, this is the first video of yours I've watched and what I love about it is that there is not the background music that one finds on so many youtube videos. Wonderfull, Well done sir !!
I wish these little engines weren't so expensive! I would love to buy one to assemble with my son so I can teach him how engines work.
Just buy a junk 4 banger it's cheaper and he will learn more.
@@mr.gabriel382 I dont disagree....but not everyone has space for that
I would like to buy the v8 kit and put it in a weedwacker! A v8 powered weedwacker.
we definitely need more videos about this engine. Very common engine here in Argentina, since most classic cars here were inline 6 engines instead of the V8s
The Aergnetinian mopars are really cool looking, the Dodge cars
I follow the Argentina 6 Bangers because they are awesome
The Inline 6 is a very smooth and reliable engine. My grandfather had a slant 6 in his Dodge Dart.
@@kingwillie206 I had a slant 6 in my dodge dart as well. The Leaning Tower of Power.
Outstanding work and attention to detail! I wonder if anyone has created a miniature Lycoming aircraft engine to the level of detail as this straight-6? It would be cool to see such an engine at work on a 1/4-scale RC plane.
Thanks for the video! As a retired 1st-class machinist, (tool & die, mold maker, R&D aerospace, hydraulics, etc.), I do miss some of the smaller, 'fancy', precision work that I used to mill.
Rich
The only advice I can give about the distributor is to double check the timing is correct (make sure cylinder 1 is on top dead center, both intake & exhaust valves are closed, and distributor rotor is pointing to were spark plug wire for cylinder 1 is at )
I love those miniature spark plugs. They literally looked like the real thing.
These little gasoline engines fulfill to requirements. One, is entertainment for the owner to assemble and run. Two, is to annoy nearby neighbors with the constant revving of the miniature engine.
they are also more expensive than they're full size counter parts for some dumb reason
Well they are the real thing…
Mini car
Every time I watch these small engine videos, I can't help but think about dropping them into an RC auto. Then pushing it to the brink to see what they are capable of. My hobby money won't allow that to happen right now. 😢
It always amazes me that these model engines go through the effort of having an oiling system, but then push zero oil into the head/timing gears, have bearings outside of the seals, etc.
Can’t wait to see part two of you making it better
More people need to consult experts like you do
That exhaust manifold is extremely restrictive. I6 engines needs at least 2 separate manifolds for first 3 and second 3 cylinders. It's super cool engine tho and I can't wait to see it in some really cool application. Best content as usual, keep it up Johnny 👍
I put the efi exh mnflds on my actual 300. The difference in power is stunning!
Inline sixes, back then, were carbureted and the exhaust manifolds were cast to create a hotspot underneath the intake so the air-fuel mix would be vaporized. Also, the one piece exhaust manifold was cheap to cast and quick to install on the assembly line. Performance was a very secondary consideration for those engines.
Ford DID make a special high-flow exhaust manifold for its Heavy Duty versions of the 300 six but, they are hard to find. The HD 300 was often found in F-350 and larger trucks, small and mid-sized school buses, and other applications where it would be running at full power almost continuously.
@@BlackPill-pu4vi The regular has a angled dump exit, while the HD had a more straight down exhaust dump exit.
@@petersipp5247 They are severely breathing limited, you can get twice the power with a mild porting and blending, better intake and carburetor, and the EFI exhaust manifolds. You can get buy a 4BBL manifold with coolant inlet and outlets.
@@LionWithTheLamb Yes, the HD manifold had more interior volume which enabled surprising flow performance and the downward exit was sized for a 2.5" pipe instead of the usual 2" pipe.
But, the engine bays of the bigger trucks could accommodate that. Putting one in a F-150 or comparable van would require a special mandrel-bent exhaust head pipe to make it fit and flow properly.
My 87 f150 is still running strong, bulletproof 👍🏼
Johnny another great video as always, you really amaze us with your ingenuity. Thanks much
I have a 4ltr straight 6 BA 03 XR6 Falcon and she is a beast. Easy to maintain and wont die easily and i love that car/engine combo.
It's 21cc, outputs 3hp (2.2kw) and weights 2.4kg for anyone else curious. I wanna see someone put one on a bicycle now 😅
It'd work, and it would be very powerful considering a 1400w brushless motor produces about 1.69 horsepower. I have two 1400w brushless motors on my electric scooter, and I can reach 50mph in like 7 seconds. Two 1400w motors produce about 3.38 HP. That engine has to go on a bike!
@@abundantharmony brushless also makes all its torque from 0rpm. I dont see this being that efficient for multiple reasons. Mainly it wont have the torque output and it isnt physically big enough to handle the weight of pulling a human being. that crankshaft would be holding on for dear life to even get you moving lol
These engines don't produce anything close to the rated power that is written on their website. People put these in RC cars and they barely manage to move, a proper 2hp nitro engine is waaaay more powerful. No way it would move a bike.
@@NorwayVFX2HP, torque: 0.04
I have a trike with an 80cc 2 stroke China engine. I'd love to put this monker on there. As soon as I can buy one for $150-$200. In the meantime I have to dream through the CZcams fellas who get free ones sent out by the manufacturer. So the rich guys can play with the coolest toys. Just like when I was a child. Hell I didn't get my motorized trike I've wanted my whole life till I was 49 and had gathered enough junk to build it myself. But I don't see lathes and mills in my future. Especially miniature ones. Maybe that will be one for my Son. I pray!
I drive a ford i300 every day! Love how detailed this one is! Best sounding micro motor yet!
Proud owned of 95’ f150 xl two door standard cab l6 , manual,whenever I drive it I am smiling. Thank you for sharing and nicely done.
Me to 95
For some reason, these videos are kind of satisfying in a way. Pretty cool 👌
I love a good JohnnyQ90 video! Great sounding engine!!
This is awesome. Love your videos. If you rotate the spark plug wires on the distributor 1 position over you should be able to get the distributor adjustment back to a better area.
turbo 2jz engine ?
@@adrianello92I want a replica I6 with DOHC like a 2j or RB26. 30cc-60cc or so
Exactly what I was thinking!
Kinda annoying the correct adjustment is so close to the end stop though! 🤷
@Dave-dh7rt that would be awesome! Id love to see someone make a miniature turbo for these too. The compressor and turbine wheel would take some serious skill to make, or perhaps 3d metal printing it would work?
I daily drive a straight six in a 96 F150. Smoothest engine I ever drove! They're so rugged with 7 main bearings.
The main bearings and the 75 hp help them live forever.
@@user-vq3dc2se5d told of all? Was that a typo? Not sure what you mean by that...
Yes, Typos happens, I seen on CZcams and Google, 1996 300 was the best year made
@@user-vq3dc2se5d happens two me qwite off'n. I'm daily driving my 03 Grand Marquis for a little while since I just got it out of winter storage and hooked the system back up. Went all winter with a basic am/fm radio. Lost one of my P71 hub caps a couple days ago. That's why I don't drive it to work and back very often. The 96 F150's hub caps are screwed on and they ain't coming off.
Please put a little turbo on that thing. With a complete intercooler and blow off setup, that will sound so good. If you can get that thing to flutter, even better.
Wonderful engine build as always, Johnny ⚙️
Love the sound of this one, especially at low RPM"s
-What is the white material used as gaskets?
-Can you make an overview on what tools you use?
I’ve had a couple ford 300’s in my day, they didn’t come close to 10k rpm 😂 This has to be closer to JDM style
Why do I find these videos so amazing?!?!
from Japan. I watch it with interest every time.
Best sounding engine so far, cant wait till you make an exhaust for it, this need to go in an rc, almost a shelf queen of an old 50s/60s car like an old jag
I think the rotary engine he built is the best sounding; Im waiting on a return of that engine.
1st of these ive seen with spark plugs and all working as it should... most of them ive see with the glow plugs... looks like a very nice engine with very minimal tweaking to to compared to others
Asking expert was great. 10/10 satisfied. Love the video
They come a long way on those little things. Pretty cool.
Sounds better than a lot of other ones iv seen
Would you mind sharing a link to the torque wrench you use, and the different types of oil? Thank you
😮Finally!!!!A content creator that actually understands engines,from lubricating the,mains,big ends and torquing in the right pattern it was an absolute pleasure watching your assembly,plus I didn't have to scream at my phone,because you missed something.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Love these engines. Good call allowing Production Control Cat to make the flywheel decision.
Wow, he got a real engine expert
Human creativity at it's best. Great video.
This video was very relaxing and enjoyable, thank you!!!
best day is, if johnny uploaded a video ❤❤
Water flow from the pump looked fine. You don’t want water to move through the block too fast or it won’t have time to absorb the heat.
This is why thermostats are so key. I knew people who would yank a thermostat in the summer so their 350 would run "cooler". I thought to myself, that's not how it works. Will it cool? Sure. But common hot spots in certain engines will certainly run hotter.
That's not how heat transfers works. Higher flow will increase cooling if the bottleneck is not enough thermal capacity, but if there's enough higher flow won't do anything.
@@armLocalhost You are clueless, aren’t you? It’s a proven fact that it was a how things work, you just don’t have the intellect to understand it. It used to be common in the automotive world for people to remove a thermostat thinking it would make their car run cooler, it didn’t. The operating temps look lower, but as soon as you stop the engine, temps will rise all the way to overheating. It takes time for heat to transfer, so the coolant has to move slow enough to absorb heat. Same with v8 jet boats, a restrictor is run instead of a thermostat to slow the water enough to absorb heat. Don’t run one and you will overheat and seize the engine while showing low water temp. So, try again when you have an idea what you are talking about. I’ve been an engine builder for 30 years and know what I’m talking about.
@@adamr9215Sure you do.
@@ThatMeansHesMad Are your parents brother and sister? Because that is the only thing that explains the stupidity in your comment.
It sounds just like a straight six WOW!
I cant remember the exact details but somewhere someone, group or company has or had a straight six they let run for like 20 years non stop accept for oil changes. I think it was a generator. It may have been a slant but regardless, these straight sixes are so well balanced and underpowered that they just keep running. Its no mystery as to why they dont make them anymore.
Harder to stuff a straight 6 into a front-drive engine bay. V6 fits so much easier.
@@BenRichards227 Ok. But front wheel drive isnt exactly an obligation.
Finally inline 6! Most people would probably say put it in a mini supra but since it is not DOHC personally i think it would fit mini nissan 280z better especially because this engine loooks very smillar to L28 engine thats in 280z
I think a completely stock 70’s or 80’s ford f.150 should be the only way to go for this work of art!!
very cool.. although i think i would spend the money and pull a old stove bolt 6cyle out of a junk yard and rebuild it for half the cost.
*Stick a DC Generator on the end of it and a couple of traction motors, with wheel sets, beneath it and you got yourself a pretty dandy Micro Caterpillar Switch Engine. I had a 1986 F150 with a 300 in it. Best running engine I ever had...I used to build Locomotive Engines for BNSF. If you ever get the chance to tour a Loco Shop...DO IT...You'll love it.*
@johnnyq90 i think that the water pump problem it's that the turbine blades are spinning in the wrong direction, viewing the pump it can be seen that the turbine blades could be installed in both positions, changing that will improve the performance of the turbine drastically
so what do you power with this engine?
CZcams views
RC cars
As you can see on the carb, at higher rpm it sometimes spouted the fuel a bit, seems the engine got a floating valve spring. I assume if you change the valve spring with the more harder it will scream like a crazy, don't forget to polish those valve too😂 great video👍🏻
I was wondering what was causing that. That makes sense now.
Funny story: I worked at a fabrication plant back in the mid to late 90's and forgot to scale a drawing I created of a valve cover. It came out 6 inches long and about 2 inches wide! 😂 I never heard the end of it!!😂😂
These little engines fascinate me. I wouldn’t mind getting into this
I'm no expert but that seems like it is built very robust internally compared to the other engines. Wouldn't surprise me if it outlasts them all.
Seems odd how the timing needs to be at the far end. It would be worth checking at no.1 tdc on the compression stroke that the rotor points to no.1 lead on the cap.
It may be possible to set the distributor mid range and move the lead to the nearest button, which would allow better timing adjustment.
It did sound like it was cross-firing during first start.
You have perfected these little engines. You've worked with enough of them lol. Cant wait to see how the RC is coming along.
I'm not sure if its been said somewhere. But what torque driver do you use for those small screws/bolts?
I've got a 300 straight 6 in my pickup, not very fast but loads of power. 1.5 million miles on the motor and transmission. Still going strong.
This model costs more than my first and second car combined. I don't think I'll ever be putting one of these together, I have real cars that need work before I get time to play.
What a unit 😂, well done on the tune for sure.
Congrats 🎉 u have the most expensive and complicated weed eater on the block 👏.
If I assembled this I would definitely accidentally strip a bolt or two.
That's why you see the use of a torque limiting driver for a lot of them, that's the clicks you're hearing when he's tightening screws, it reaching it's torque limit. Not getting cross-threaded bolts may also be a fun task lol
Dang I missed this....The way it's been too long. It gives me chills.
Much more solid build this one, you can see the quality of components is a huge leap than previous, it certainly sounds a more torquey motor.
We all know you're going to turn this engine into something special. Looking forward to seeing more videos on it. 👍🏼
You should also look at building some type of an alternator or generator for it so it doesn't need an external battery to operate... just an idea, but it would be something interesting to see you build.
It would also be interesting to see if you could engineer and build a turbocharger for that engine. Not a supercharger driven off the crankshaft, an actual turbocharger using exhaust gas to spin the compressor.
There's a turbocharger keychain manufacturer out there, that actually makes a working miniature scale dual ball bearing turbocharger that would fit this application perfectly. They even make little compressor maps for them! So no engineering required.
damn this thing sounds way better than i thought it would
I like how your cat is an expert in fly wheel technology
Fun fact, building an actual ford 300 is cheaper
Dawg you look like a person to say a dog is just a cat
@@yourlocalgaragehuh
@@HudingtinBank I mean is that how dumb you gotta be a real ford engine very experience like no shit and making a small engine is very hard for the company's 💀💀💀
would be funny to test how much power this engine puts out
Neat. I've always wondered how similar these little engines are to the big ones.
That thing would be awesome in a old school rc boat...nice build n video. Thanks for sharing
Holy cow, I can buy and rebuild a real I6 for less than this thing costs.
1181 is crazy
Im interested in how the crank gets lubricated? also the head showed no lubrication at all, except the grease you applied. How long is this engine expected to last ?
The crank is probably splash lubricated. The head and cam gear probably has to be periodically greased.
That was fun to watch i wish we had a mini engine dyno thank you for sharing
That is a good sounding engine. If you can get the idle down to around 1500 rpm, it would have a nice mean lope to it.
Do you have a link for that torque wrench bit driver?
For the headgasket, instead of just metal you might try a multi-layer steel design. Do three/four layers that add up to the stock gasket thickness, and maybe so a very tiny bead of silicone around the oil and water jackets like OEM MLS gaskets do. Would account for expansion and etc, and would seal great.
Also, for the leaky gaskets I see, I'd honestly just use some RTV. A tiny smear, to be nice and smooth, let it get tacky, then clamp it down and dry for 24 hours. Then it shouldn't ever leak again.
nope copper is best just like on a car. high hp cats use copoer gaskets steel expands at much different rates than aluminum
Hey there, I'm from Argentina. We have inline 6 doing 9.800rpm in a class called Turismo Carretera.
These used to include the Chevy 250, the Ford 221 and the Slant six. They've been replaced by similar engines manufactured entirely here.
Liked that engine. Would it not rev more freely with the lighter flywheel?
Lighter flywheel would likely do that, but may come at a cost to balancing or the smooth operation in some small ways, so short answer is definitely yes, by how much? Who knows. What else would it affect? Hard to say. The rotating mass affects more than just the ability to rev quickly, so it could be fine, or it could have drawbacks like necessity for higher idle speeds or things like that.
The engine kit is over $1,200 in case anyone's curious
Thank youbfor your Videos. Your Videos fix my day from the darkness.
i wonder if you gap the rings, balance all the parts, and seat the valves with some spins and polishing compound, what rpms you could push this one to.
1300 dollhairs and doesn't come with everything? You are seriously joking right?
Nah, mommy and daddy buy everything for this man baby.
What I love about my 04 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon's inline 4.0L V6 is that 85% of the torque is delivered at idle 8-900 RPM. The new Jeeps now use a V6 due to the inline turning into a bullet on impact. However, it crawls no were near as good as the inline.
NINE HUNDRED DOLLARS? ARE THEY INSANE? This kit ain't worth a hundred Dollars, let alone 900.
You can go buy a real engine at a junkyard for that kind of money and have hundreds left over for a new gasket set, bearings and other miscellaneous stuff.
That seems like it's a generator, not a distributor. Generally, the distributor simply distributes the high voltage signal created by the coil to each cylinder. This doesn't appear to have a coil, and when you spun the "distributor" it generated a spark. I mean, in the sense of this motor, it is absolutely the easier and more cost-efficient route. These things are sure becoming next level compared to the old nitro motors of yore! Can't wait to see a quad cam v8 or something crazy, its bound to happen. Sounds like it has more balls than my 50cc Husqvarna!
Most realistic engine I've ever heard! ❤❤❤
That is awesome. I have a 300 and would love this
Would love to see it powering something, doesn't have to be complex. Like a "world's most badass weed wacker."
Has anyone else mentioned you installed the pump impeller backwards? That is probably why it has high internal pressure also. It's counterintuitive but they have to face the other way.
I had a 69 Ford F100 Ranger with that motor in it. That was a good running truck. Cab corners rusted out and I couldn't drive it anymore. The shift linkage was bound up because the cab settled.
im a fan of the jeep 4.0 inline six those engine were so amazing!