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By 2030 everyone will be either driving a Chinese car, a non-Chinese car using Chinese car batteries or a non-Chinese car using Chinese car partsđ
You won't be driving that car for long if WW3 breaks out. If that is the case I'll be driving a non-Chinese 2024 car.
Right Now almost all car are build using some Chinese parts. So what's your point? Battery manufacturing is very toxic that's why we don't want it in Europe or us. Let them enjoy it.
That's the case now, lol. Teslas assembled in the U.S. are comprised of 40-50% Chinese manufactured parts.
â@@dantebg100Tesla's battery factories are in the U.S. No one is escaping manufacturing. All it takes is a 2 second search to see which countries have the highest carbon footprint.
â@@ajnaughtin1if ww3 breaks out,you will drive nothing
It is looking like what Sam predicts. Everyone is encouraged to visit China and see the streets of China with your own eyes.
Greetings from Thailand
would be entertaining to watch all the EV fires there ... nobody in the USA is going to park one of those fire hazards in their garage.
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Please remember most Chinese cars are lfp batteries that struggle to burn unlike the ncm batteries used in the USA. I work for a USA ev maker and Chinese are getting much better. Know your enemy.
@@user-qw6ib8by3n "While BYD Expands Abroad, Another Han EV Catches Fire - What's Wrong With It?" - autoevolution (Aug. 18, 2022)
"Chinese BYD electric car explodes while charging outside shopping mall" - Newsflare (Sep. 3, 2023)
"BYD electric car catches fire at Hong Kong charging station, expert says short circuit could be the cause" - South China Morning Post (Jan. 26, 2024)
BYD = Bury Your Dead
@@KrustyKlown ICE cars are 20 times more likely to catch on fire than EV's, per insurance data from the last decade.
I love to see how desperate US and EU politicians are getting...so much that they even are starting fighting with US and EU legacy auto...because the latter know what is coming.
They sell everything to everyone so why not EVs
Yes, the markets can decide what to buy. China can make anything whatever the world needs or wants.
Every country in this world buys everything from China. Why not EV?
Consider that as Chinese EV manufacters increase global sales the global sales of legacy automakers declines and causes them to lose the benefits of economies of scale. This financial hit is not linear but rather logrythmic and will cause the collapse of legacy automakers to occur sooner. Say about 2028...
That makes sense
In a few years we will see a huge transition from legacy to EV's. EV's will be cheaper and the range will be higher.
What about cheap enough to get the populations of Asia, Africa and South America to have affordable EV?
@@user-ed9so2rb4k They are already in Asia and in South America. Are you knew to this channel?
Americans shouldn't worry about loosing jobs to China. Worry about loosing jobs to automation right here in the USA. We can't be Luddites, so just allow Chinese cars to be imported .
there's more than other 150+ countries, so EU & USA is irrelevant., just don't cry when your oil based economy inevitably collapse within a decade
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It's not just here. It is going to be everywhere in the world. Automation is taking over. Everyone has to figure out what to do with the 90% of humans who no longer has jobs.
@@felixsu375 Here is the US people don't want to work .
they make EVs like making cellphones, that's why
Donât under estimate the Chinese. They will make evâs in Mexico and import them into the US unless we want to kill off ford.
Yes, at 3 years old you dump them in the recycling bin.
@@archiefleming652 People dump them so they can upgrade and not because the phone doesn't work. My phone works fine and it's old.
â@@archiefleming652 The level of commodification means that it takes less than 3 years to break even in terms of investment compared to legacy cars. In other words, it's cheaper to replace these cars every 3 years than it is to buy a legacy car that lasts you 10 years.
@@exocre9193surely you have to be joking
The European, Japanese and US legacy car makers have had it all their own way for a very long time. They've not really competed with each other, more like shared the market. That is clearly all changing as we speak. I don't see how the legacy brands are going to combat it unfortunately. The brand loyalty they have built over the years is slipping through their fingers and they only have themselves to blame.
The auto-market is extremely competitive in price, service, design, etc. And car companies just produce what customers want. Majority customers aren't going for EVs in North America, Europe, or even Australia. Rather, hybrids are outselling EVs.
@@yo2trader539 The legacy car makers will keep churning out higher margin ICE cars for as long as they can. At the moment they are years behind with EV development.
EV sales have risen 6 fold over the last 5 years and now have a substantial foothold in the market. That will only increase, it won't die off. Transport is changing and the legacy companies really need to change tack if they are to survive.
The US is notably dragging it's feet but even there EV sales have increased sales by 5X in 6 years. Australia has been slow on the uptake but has seen a rise in sales of 120% last year. All major regions now sell more EVs than hybrids
Once the EV price comes down, combustion engines are history. And guess what, it is happening right now.
It's getting harder and harder to block out the facts and my excuses of not getting myself a BYD is getting less and less convincing.. đ
"While BYD Expands Abroad, Another Han EV Catches Fire - What's Wrong With It?" - autoevolution (Aug. 18, 2022)
"Chinese BYD electric car explodes while charging outside shopping mall" - Newsflare (Sep. 3, 2023)
"BYD electric car catches fire at Hong Kong charging station, expert says short circuit could be the cause" - South China Morning Post (Jan. 26, 2024)
BYD = Bury Your Dead
@@KP-xi4bj You've been recycling this comment on every video. I'm guessing you're are not an EV fan. Why are you here?
@@PyroShields I drive a Tesla. đ
@@KP-xi4bj Why are you bashing BYD?
@@PyroShields Denial is a disease of the mind.
Look up Chinese EV fires.
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America doesnât sell anything unless it can make a profit. The Chinese can sell anything to satisfy the customer and not worry about making a profit.
Loved the burger analogy... totally felt you on that oneđ
Absolutely amazing how legacy auto is truly giving up on competing as vehicle manufacturers.
This is what was being said about the Japanese in the 1970s, and it was definitely partly true. Are legacy automakers smart enough to embrace evs?
Most Americans donât want them. Ford has 2023 and 2024 evs piling up.
Along with all the other U.S. based ev makers.
Any one knowledgeable about electric fields knows that not one manufacturer has dealt with the cancer inducing electric field issue.
Like the cell phone, no cares till all the sudden they got cancer from years or decades of exposure.
That's only six year away! The inference I draw from this is North America and Japan will be the only areas predominently still manufacturing and selling ICE vehicles - and virtually only in their home countries.
Thanks Sam, let the legacy auto companies sleep, while China EVs prosper. đ
The sauna cold therapy thing sounds interesting, maybe do a video on it đ
Everyone complaining about Chinese dominance when they're doing the work and the west isn't haha
How did I miss this
In 2030 my Bolt will still be going strong. Hope
Chevy will still be too.
How strong? What I've heard is that GM sales in China have been a major part of their profits in past years and now that market is collapsing. If so, the question is whether GM can cover their debts based on much smaller sales.
By 2030 only tesla and Chinese ev makers are left
My suggestion is you better stockpile all the GM parts. Thatâs call derisking from China.
In 2030 Iâll be teleporting, enjoy your rattling Bolt!
Strong like the other two times they bankrupt.
2030 - BEV 3,000 km battery.
I expect a multi-polar car market in 2030. EVs will dominate. However, EV companies will be worldwide. Tesla. China. Some new makers. Hopefully, even some legacy automakers will redeem themselves.
Nope. The top 10 car companies will be Tesla and 9 Chinese EV makers. Legacy auto has not figured out how to make EVs profitably, and they are way behind by 5-10 years. Expect legacy auto brands to continue disappearing at a faster rate each year.
Tesla car designs are starting to look really old now, it was awesome back in 2014 but ten years have passed and the design is the same
Ford and GM are using 1990 technology!
â@@irenechan7193What 1990 technology?
@@irenechan7193 and they sell because their cars look way different than 1990
If you're talking about body styling, Tesla focuses on internal updates rather than cosmetic changes.
Tesla will most likely replace the Model S & X with a larger version of the Model Y, as they make so few of the S & X per year, and their cost & retail price are too high. The Model 3 was just refreshed, and the Model Y will be refreshed next year. And the Model 2 will be out within 2 years as well.
Happy to hear you like a Finnish Saunađ That is the only kind that really works for me. Best consumed when situated next to a lake, sweat in sauna, take a dip in a lake, and repeat several times while enjoying few ice cold beersđť
Thrw away cars like phones but you will not admit it .
Oh ICE cars last foreverâŚ. Good to know
Do you know there are ev taxis in China since 2017. Some of them in Shenzhen have been running for almost 8 years clocking upto seven to eight hundred thousand km in mileage, using the same battery.
Bring themđ
Many people dont know, in China internally, very huge competition for the EV industries, many cannot surivie and go bankruptcy, really many many firms closed down. ideal is good, big plans are good, but reality is not easy for the whole industry.
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Shock 3.0 would be personal robot at home I guess..
nice living the good life mate
This must be the greatest thing that I have heard from you or on this channel that you have been in a Finnish Barrel Sauna. Barrel Saunas are great.
You canât get a single Chinese car here in CanadaâŚđŽ
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What is the cost of supply chain for repair parts if you change vehicles every 1.6 years?
huh?
There aren't many parts in an EV, when comparing to ICE cars.
So when does the chinese brands start to sell in Europe? They are still selling minor figures here.
you need a sauna in melbourne mr viking. not in newcastle?
Great insight, but a marketing man? Expected. My best read was the book, get a thousand dollars of promition for ten dollars. I embarrassed myself but kept spending those ten dollars. At twenty I owned four dwellings with land to build three more.
Brand loyalty does not shift abruptly in 5 years ... and EVs will remain a niche market share because charging ain't convenient for everyone.
The Japanese wrote the textbook on how to undermine brand loyalty in many, many industries. A lot of it was just rebadging.
@@warheadsnation Japanese had better quality unlike Chinese brands.
@@yo2trader539 Maybe in the past. Not anymore.
Chinese car industry will change the world car industry in the way smart phone industry did. With the way they release a new model phone once a year.
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When Tesla FSD works then the same can be used in Tesla car factories 24/7/365. In robots.
Productivity per m2 of factory floor will increase x5.
If the robots work twice as fast then x10 more productive.
For the same price, quality is better. For the same quality, price is better.
"While BYD Expands Abroad, Another Han EV Catches Fire - What's Wrong With It?" - autoevolution (Aug. 18, 2022)
"Chinese BYD electric car explodes while charging outside shopping mall" - Newsflare (Sep. 3, 2023)
"BYD electric car catches fire at Hong Kong charging station, expert says short circuit could be the cause" - South China Morning Post (Jan. 26, 2024)
BYD = Bury Your Dead
Potential buyers aren't interested your useless comment... even if u keep pasting it everywhereâ@KP-xi4bj
Until 1970 the American car makers would update their models every two years but inflation was beginning to take hold and this was extend to three or four years. It seems like ancient history now but expecting a model refresh from an American made model was expected.
When they dominated the car market,their bosses began to enjoy life and becoming lazy as well !!
@@peterg0, thatâs where the problems began. All the cars that the four, there were four car makers then, built large cars or compact muscle cars for the kids but they all had one thing in common. They were all gas guzzlers. The German and Japanese car makers were selling high fuel efficient sub compact cars so when the Arab oil embargo hit in October 1973, they were unprepared and their sales slumped. Toyota, Honda and Nisssn, Datsun back then, were perfectly positioned to pick up sales. The American car makers could never build a reliable economy car for the masses.
Are there already towns in China where you can't buy gasoline?
In six years, *Tesla* is going to be selling *Optimus* by the shipload.
Its automobile sector will probably be a shrinking portion of its revenues even as it dominates every other manufacturer with its *FSD* being available, for a price of course, to all their competition, and its *RoboTaxi* fleet obliterates the competition.
This is an interesting point. The Americans did an end run around Japan in the 1990s by innovating in software; Japan fell behind and never caught up again. The difference, though, is that China is pretty good at software, so we'll have to wait and see on that. The Americans do seem to be in the lead on A.I. however.
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Cheers mate China is doing bloody good
Considering they have no presence in the US and EU, second and third largest automotive markets in the world, that would be a big NO.
Nothing wrong with China having a share of the car market. I doubt if the rusted on Ford, GM, Toyota, BMW etc etc fan will swap over. The question is will those car companies still be around. China speed is a thing. We are witnessing it in many different ways. Car manufacturing is just one. They're Chinese and they are good.
Excess Chinese auto EV production can be quickly altered to bots making bots at exponential x exponential rates. đŽ
It depends on people all over the world. First, most people still hate/dislike Chinese products and want to avoid them. Second, most people still love gasoline cars (edit:fuel cars) very much (or still love Toyota, Honda, Mazda, etc very much) in 2030. Third, the anti-EV attitudes and beliefs are still prevalent in global society in 2030.
I believe it can't dominate the world. (Although the word world in Welsh is...)
You know what dominates the market? Cost. When EV's are cheaper than gas cars and the range is longer. People will be buying EV's.
I think you're wrong on all 3 points you've made, most of the world doesn't care.
Japan won the legacy car race yet china electric car is the standard ! Buy their stock
What stock? China has so many EV manufacturers.
2030? 2026/2027 maybe
I have seen a review of a BYD car on Electrifying. Its software did not work. They had to return it to the dealer to get it fixed. Software only works in China.
I guess that's why we are seeing so many Chinese EVs on roads outside China. People want to buy cars whose software doesn't work. Thanks for the explanation.
@bobwallace9753 Software in many legacy auto makers does not work either. I guess Tech, as he calls it, is not a big selling point.
What country was that in?
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If the car was direct import from China then it probably have many issues due to the need for localization. Otherwise it's a much bigger problem call "in denial", problem is the bug only download more buggy updates.
Not too fast.America ,Germany and Japan are not going down quietly.
You would be aware that companies have left Russia. Read between the lines why companies are leaving China?
China no longer has super cheap labor. They have an aging population. And many of their younger people are now well educated and don't want to work in a factory for very low wages.
I don't think that will greatly hurt China's EV business. They will automate as much as possible. And the less developed countries that have cheap labor do not have the infrastructure, including suppliers, to become major car producers.
China's progress in battery tech is key. In a way the Chinese trojan horse (the ultra cheap EV) it is a good thing: Rothschild's empire is in decline, BRICS is the future. The 'west' can also setup huge battery factories and huge solar cell factories, why not? Rothschild's empire is not yet gone completely, that's why.
Why hate on Chinese cars? We Chinese love Eur cars, Japanese cars, American cars too..đĽ˛
China can't even sell cars with Polestar/Volvo so no i don't see this happening. Meanwhile BMW and Lexus sales continue to surge and presumably same true with Porsche. There is a Chinese Brand motorcycle and 4wheeler ATV mfger making noise at it should given current crazy pricing but that's the only MIC i see really doing it right at the moment. TYM is Korean and doing very well...far better than anything coming out of China at the moment although producing an incredible 30 million cars per Year 2024 is quite amazing. Failure to set up anything in North America as Japan and Germany and even JCB of Great Britain says to me Made in China will not be long for this World tho and 2030 is not far away to prove this out as true actually..
Why EVs will ultimately dominate over ICEVs:
1) ultimately cheaper. EVs generally have less moving parts unlike the internal combustion engine where you always have to worry about oil changes, the wear and tear of all moving parts of the internal combustion engines, spark plugs, pistons, rubber gaskets, etc., wear and tear of mufflers and other components of internal combustion engine. with an EV, the only thing an owner needs to worry about is regular maintenance/cleaning which can be DIY (filter change, tire alignment, wheel rotation, etc.) and battery care and power management. You can do all that in the safety, privacy and security of your own home home/garage.
2) with extreme care and management of the batteries, as in not unnecessarily stressing the batteries/not overcharging the batteries/minimizing supercharging and degradation/using a gentle/slow charge from home power, the batteries can potentially last for 15 years or more, enough time if one was still able to make a living and have the income to trade in their current make or invest in new batteries to install in their purchased make. And EV power does not rely on an outside network of energy suppliers with owners being able to power their EVs in the safety, security and convenience of their own homes/garages.
3) the advanced tech integrated into EVs such as cameras and sensors to bring about full self driving, automation and AI and a whole host of other choices and options you can find using your mobile devices while boomer ICE vehicles continue to use boomer tech with limited tech options incorporated to boomer technology loved by senile mummies, big oil sniffers/shills and low infos (internal combustion engine)
4) it will naturally adapt, with the continued progress and development of fusion energy assisted by AI in the horizon, which will be complemented by solar and wind and hydrogen if hydrogen can be made safer beyond doubt.
The boomer automakers will have difficulty adapting, and eventually go the same way as the horse and buggy.
2) 15 years at 12,000 miles per year (US average) is only 180,000 miles. Current EV batteries appear to be lasting far longer than that with no special treatment.
4) We may figure out how to use fusion to produce electricity. But at this point in time it looks like fusion would be nothing more than another expensive way to boil water.
CATL has a battery that can last millions of kilometers without degradation already
Before you used to say Tesla will rule the world.
After they pampered you with free ride to China, you are pivoting đ
It's obvious that China ev makers has overtaken Tesla this year and well into the future.
Nah. Tesla will be fine and hold a position like Apple in the smartphone market.
Most Tesla are made in China too.
âSeeing is believingâ, maybe you should pack and go to China. When you come back you probably will pivot as well.
I'm not against China's progress in EV market. Kudos to them for doing so well.
My point was how fickle this guy is. He often claimed in the past only Tesla will survive and in China perhaps just BYD, only if they accept Elon as god đ
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BYD'S MEXICAN factory is for Latin America, not for the US.
BYD say that because they know they have a big enough market there to justify the factory and canât rely on the USA and Canada but they probably wouldnât mind selling to those countries if they were allowed to but they arenât counting on it .
If you look at Tesla the model S came out 12 years ago and has been made unchanged since then .
All the other Tesla cars except the truck are basically lesser versions of the model S
The model S was futuristic when it came out but has always been expensive not for the average consumer.
The Tesla truck was first introduced to the public over 4 years ago and is only getting into production now .
So all these cars are becoming dated looking and this really is the only American EV brand all the others will probably end up like Fisker .
But China has over a hundred EV Automakers and they are all turning out new designs at an astonishing rate no one will be able to compete.
So the USA and probably Canada will ban them outright not allow them into the country just when they mandated their public that they must buy EV cars .
The Canadian government is trying to scare the Canadians about the dangers of having a Chinese EV car saying if everyone buys Chinese cars someday China can hack into them and shut them all down at once causing massive gridlock.
North American consumers better speak up or they will be left behind only able to buy obsolete expensive junk .
"While BYD Expands Abroad, Another Han EV Catches Fire - What's Wrong With It?" - autoevolution (Aug. 18, 2022)
"Chinese BYD electric car explodes while charging outside shopping mall" - Newsflare (Sep. 3, 2023)
"BYD electric car catches fire at Hong Kong charging station, expert says short circuit could be the cause" - South China Morning Post (Jan. 26, 2024)
BYD = Bury Your Dead
@@KP-xi4bjThere hasnât been a car ever made since the invention of the car that hasnât caught fire at one time or another so those news stories are irrelevant.
What about the Tesla self driving cars that have killed people ?
No Tesla will
Chinese Phev can do 2,100 km on one tank and one charge. That is the future replacing the ICE cars! Chinese EV cost less but offer better quality and longer range today. Tomorrow is a different game all over again.
PHICES are taking a temporary role...until people realize that overall they are using BEV only. That's why BYD is clever not going full BEV at once but giving people the choice until they get the experience.
Are these the same " experts" that said the coof cough clot shot is " safe and effective " and men can get pregnant? BAHAHAHAHA!!!! đđđđ¤Ąđ¤Ąđ¤Ąđ¤Ąđ¤Ą
I have a theory (conspiracy?) on this Sam. My thinking suggests that/as should China start to dominate we will hear a cry regarding IT security & data leakage. For example if China integrate technology into their cars such as voice recognition, data tracking such as GPS, car owner details, access to mapping details there will come an outcry that the Chinese government (by extension) can track the location of where an individual is, track their location data, find places they are visiting (who they are visiting?) etc etc... I know paranoid here but if in-car systems can listen for voice commands they could in theory listen to conversations as well (as happens now). Knowing who might be in a car could be a unique way to gather new intel... đ¤ˇââ, look no further than what happened to Huawei or TikTok...
USA trying to keep the Chinese out using massive tariffs if that doesnât work the last resort will be saying the cars can spy on you .
But everyone already carries smart phones that can spy on you so the main concern should be who is doing the spying?
I am more concerned about the 5 eyes spying on me than China because I have no plans of going to China I worry more about my own government
Cold Fact: The U.S. government has gone to great lengths to find any hard evidence of Huawei's and Tiktok's alleged data breaches until now, and all allegations are based on speculation.
Google already knows when youâre in the toilet taking a dumpđ
@@bumbengtey8464 - Google arenât Chinese
I agree with your assessment but, we are talking about China, a country with a need to sell abroad for big revenue, coupled with its foreign policies that already rub the West the wrong way. How much would it take for the West to just ban China's imports ?
China has 150 friendly countries to sell to đ west g7 is irelevant
China is 10 years ahead of the US.
Brands that have been purchased by Chinese companies are not really Chinese brands.
It doesn't matter. They are familiar brand names and not 'strange' Chinese names.
All the money and decisions goto China
Not sure i have learned anything from this ramble. You may have spent the time explaining that water is wet.
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Well, dominance doesnât mean good. China auto industry is owned and paid for by the government, like their telephone suppliers. They donât make any profits, which is ok with the CCP. They can wait until there are no competing cars, then set prices.
We have lots of Chinese cars in Russia. I heard opinions from people, who are servicing Chinese cars. Just yesterday I talked to my relative, who is working in auto service. Everybody says, that the quality of metal is very bad. Even new cars sometimes have rust and corrosion. And they say that Chinese cars definitely won't last long. Yes, design, electronics and features look good. But corrosion will kill these cars.
Reallyďźyou were right when you said that ten years ageďźbut now itâs different . Many BYD cars have traveled over 300000 kilometers
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It is not easy as you think. Cars will be like smart phones. Parts, battery, labor... are not important as design and software... Chinese smart phones are selling well but not dominant in the world. I guess legacy auto makers will have less market share. But new comers like Rivian, Lucid, Tesla will compete well with Chinese brands. Also, salary and production cost are being increased in China.
Chinese cars are still not that refined but they are getting there. In a few years they will clean up their software and handling problems.
"Tesla will always be on the top10 in EVs, along with 9 other Chinese brands.", says Elon Musk. I think it's a fair comment, he didn't say Tesla is the no1.
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Stop with opinions đ .. hell i said that the Chinese would destroy the automotive industry and I said it almost 20 years ago.. just give facts đ the opinion section is below..
Thats preposterous!!!!
Good now the overpriced telsas will be dirt cheap alsođđđđ
Teslas are already cheaper today than in 2023. If you cannot afford a Tesla then you have no business buying an EV.
@KP-xi4bj not cheap enough says the market đ¤Łdon't want a ev and tesla will be cheaper .... fan boi
Happy with my hybrid 500plue rangeđ
@@snow-uq4gx Yes, beggars want things for free. Good luck with that. đ
P.S. How's the maintenance/maintenance costs on your hybrid? LMFAO SMH
@KP-xi4bj maintenance is gorgeous
Don't have to wait to charge cheaper than charging
Don't have to worry about a 10-20k battery replacement đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł
@@KP-xi4bj my client paid 140k for. A plaid model y..guess how much it's worth now đŠđŠ
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Hello Viking. The best to you and your family. The best EV info show. Go to hell about us having to accept Chinese cars though. 'Free' trade is stupid. China does not trade freely, they demanded foreign autos 50% partner with chinese auto, smart on them. Now they want unfettered access? 50% tariff at least. China is an Orwellian dystopia (social credit scores anyone?), time to decouple. They are well heading to being the most powerful economy and then military in the world. Because their leaders are smart and ours are dumb, exporting our jobs to them. Greeks shouldn't buy German cars either without demanding they make as many cars in Greece as Greece buys. The EU is stupid. Not having your own industrial base is weakness. That s how Germany lost the war don't you know.
This is news to me that Germany had no industrial base in WW2 seems like your knowledge of things is lacking .
If you donât like Chinese donât buy Chinese EV cars then .But donât prevent others that want them from buying like the consumers vote with their wallet.
China already has the largest economy in the world and their military is growing day by day no country on the planet can invade and take over China .
Change your perception: Tesla China is a 100% wholly-owned company.
Also, capitalists want lower production costs, the already vast Chinese consumer market, and the Chinese government hasn't forced foreign investment in at gunpoint or imposed tariffs of more than 100 percent on U.S. car imports. It is self-evident which market is more "free"
Hi mate, donât know where are you from. You watch too much MSM. I reckon you go to China to check by yourself, for example ask Chinese about the social credit scores.
I know tesla is 100% wholly owned, and its the only one. China allowed this because they thought it was in their best interest to bring in the leader in EV's. It was a strategic decision based on national interest. They couldn't give a damn about free trade. Regarding social credit scores I couldn't give a damn what chinese people think of them. I despise Orwellian social credit scores and don't want the west to copy china's bad example.
I know capitalists want cheap labour just like they want to pollute and own slaves. That's why we have governments to make laws forcing capitalist interests to align with the publics interest.
This reminds me of approximately 1983, when the Japanese auto industry was unstoppable, along with steel, shipbuilding, machine tools, electronics, and just about everything else except for computers and agriculture. Then their economy crashed and never quite recovered to its former glory. Same will happen to China sooner or later, if not already begun.
The Chinese are not Japanese. The American started the trade war with the Chinese few years ago and what happen now? The Yanks just can't win it!
That could happen. But I think the Chinese government is much smarter than the Japanese government was.
Wishful thinking. đ
1.4B China is not tiny Japan with no natural resources
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Americans wonât buy Chinese carsđ
Do the Chinese have dealers, repair shops, part supplies etc in North America? How much did Tesla have to invest in infrastructure in North America over the past 12 years to support their current sales? You donât think the autocratic CCP who can and will veto anything having to do with Chinese products, might stop consumers from buying Chinese EVs? How can a Chinese EV be sold with 100% tariffs? Price and profits donât matter?
My questions arenât bigotry or a hate for Chinese products. I am not saying they have inferior product although most of the models I have seen wouldnât pass safety rules in North America. I have suggested you have a blinded view of Chinese EVs before but I would really like to know WHY you think what you do. Your unsupported opinion isnât worth much (and mine isnât either) so please answer my points above and even if a I disagree, I would at least know where your thinking comes from.
Much of what Sam says is blindly supportive, uncritical of anything Chinese because of monetary repercussions, too broad and lacks detail because he puts out 3 to 5 videos a day. I watch most of them. The screen content is regurgitated time and time again over many videos, but I agree, he's right. It'll even be earlier than 2030. Chinese cars will wipe the floor with the entire industry
In 2030, Tesla will be so far ahead of everyone else, with the Chinese coming in a distant second. People will not be driving themselves by that time. The only game in town will be FSD, and Tesla's FSD will always remain several years ahead. FSD requires ridiculous amounts of compute power and fleet data to train AI models. Tesla is building the world's largest supercomputer. What car company has the vision and expertise to do that? So apart from Tesla, no one else will have fully solved FSD by 2030. Most legacy and Chinese auto makers will be licensing from Tesla, giving Tesla total market dominance.
Thereâs already FSD buses in Shenzhen China driving the public around so not sure if Tesla will be ahead of anyone. Anyways, the Teslas arriving in Canada right now and parts of Europe are made in Shanghai China so it doesnât matter. Around 50% of Teslas worldwide are made in China in 2024.
Tesla is stagnating now, I donât see many innovations coming out of the mastermind!
Ok little buddyđ we can't compete with China manufacturing cheap cars, therefore we are ai company. đ We are not car company no more.đ
EV batteries will have to be made in the US for the Chinese brands to get sold in North America, but that wonât happen as the Chinese will keep building their fire hazards at home. So therefore they will be banned from North America.
They plan to take Taiwan in 2027 so your predictions might need to be reassessed. At that point, you could be fighting them and not swanning around over there on paid influencing trips.
Why would any Australian want to go die fighting China ?
Taiwan is already part of China the Australian government already recognizes that did you ever wonder why there is no such a thing as a Chinese embassy in Australia or the USA ?
What ever happens IF it happens between China and Taiwan will be no business of Australias and whatâs the point of going to war with your biggest trading partner ?
Lastly if Australia decides to go to war with China they can expect to be squished like a ant best stay out of other countries business
Taiwan is a province of China, and the United Nations and the United States both recognize this
So why do you think an island that has never been under the control of the CCP and has an elected democratic government has never been given international recognition? Or are you too thick to work that one out? Let me spell it out for you. They own the UN along with half the countries in it. They even have two elected officials in the UN human rights department. How sick is that? Still, their financial clout is waning fast, only supported by idiots buying into the Chinese EV market. What a frigging joke.
Sam's not exaggerating: China WILL own the auto industry world-wide by 2030, with the exception of Tesla.
War by other means
China is determined to monopolize the auto industry the way it's done already with shipbuilding, pig iron & cheap steel, wind turbines, solar cells & panels, batteries, lithium & rare earths... Massively subsidizing an industry then dumping worldwide to eliminate foreign industry is the method. They've been very successful at it.
In every country that HAS a manufacturing sector, industry is anchored by the auto manufacturing industry. Each industrial country has one or a few major brands: Renault & Peugeot in France, Stellantis in Italy, VW BMW & Mercedes in Germany, Ford & GM in N America, Hyundai/Kia in S Korea, Toyota, Honda, Nissan & a couple of minor players in Japan. Each of those major brands is supported by a pyramid of industrial suppliers: Tier 1 suppliers like Magna, Linamar, Martinrea, ABC; Tier 2 suppliers like Honeywell, Lear, Tenneco, BorgWarner, Cummins; Tier 3 making single parts; fastener firms, Tool & Die Makers, molding companies, sheet metal rolling mills & supermarkets, paint companies...
Take out the major brands at the top & the pyramid of suppliers below is at risk, if not killed outright. Sure, tool & die makers make stuff for other industries but if you eliminate their largest market most will go bust.
China's Strategic Plan
If you eliminate a country's industrial manufacturing capacity, they cannot fight a war.
Wipe out the major auto firms as actual manufacturing companies - not just brands - and you eliminate industrial manufacturing in their countries.
In Germany, VW BMW & Mercedes have ALREADY capitulated - thrown in the towel
They've announced that all future design, development & manufacturing of their EVs will be done in China by other firms. They'll slap a German brand name on the product & ship it to Europe, but it'll be a Chinese car. All legacy auto manufacturing will continue to occur in the EU for as long as it lasts. The deadline legally is 2035, but the EU is already considering advancing the deadline to 2030 & it looks like the market will do that anyhow. Norway is already past 90% EV in new sales; Sweden isn't far behind.
Germany by 2030 will cease to have a manufacturing industry of any scale
It can look forward to having an economy like Australia's. Oz has an economy based on mining, finance, agriculture & tourism. That's about it.
China wins. THAT'S the Plan
Without Industrial capacity, you cannot fight a war. China can grab Taiwan, the Philippines, maybe try for Vietnam again... whatever it wants.
THAT is why Biden's IRA
The Inflation Reduction Act is intended to spur companies to re-shore industry, rebuild manufacturing capacity in the US, Mexico & Canada. The IRA is BIGGER than the Marshall Plan that helped re-build Europe after WW2! It's massive!
This Plan WILL drive up inflation; it will put pressure on government to help fund reconstruction. But it'll drive MASSIVE economic growth that'll employ youth, increase real wages and above all, ensure America's National Security. America can grow faster than Europe did after WW2! And it HAS to.
China WILL make its move
China is collapsing economically. Demographically it's in free-fall. If it's going to make a play for Taiwan it'll have to do so before 2030, probably sooner (military bets are on 2025-27 apparently).
EU will de-industrialize
The EU's population is also plummeting and it doesn't look like they'll offset that with immigration.
Canada is - so far - growing through immigration. Mexico is still growing though the rate is slowing. Both will contribute to America's economic growth & national security.
The US population is near-stagnant, steady-state, but the only people having kids to boost growth are Latino & Black (which'll piss off Republicans but they need to suck it up: those kids will be paying their pensions & providing their health care. Oh, the irony!). The US won't start shrinking until well into the 2030s, so it's economy looks OK. And it'll boom under the IRA.
Unless America votes Republican & they shut down the IRA, kow-tow to Xi & Putin. Which Trump WILL do.
Your vote matters in November!
Let's read for comprehension:
Chinese subsidies, bad!
U.S. subsidies, good!
Itâs called éłč°âŚlook it up mate. And how is it bad if most of the G7 are left without the capacity to wage a war at will?
Not where i live. We do not like dictators that supports Putin
All I see is America starting wars everywhere, not sure who the bad guy is lol
So foolish. Everyone knows that America killed all those poor Ukrainians in the war.
Cope harder bro. China doesnât bomb countries all over the world , unlike yours
Are you from Afghanistan. They also banned tiktok there
â@@England66hsMore likely from Timbaktu.
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