Mwalimu Julius Nyerere Explains Why Socialist Policies Failed | Dar es Salaam, 1985
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- In an interview with Dutch journalists in 1985, Mwalimu Julius Nyerere discussed his legacy as Tanzania's founding president. It was the final year of his presidency. Part of the discussion revolved around the socialist policies that were implemented after the Arusha Declaration of 1967. Here, Mwalimu Nyerere explains the challenges they encountered and why some of those policies failed.
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This chap had really coherent mind...and the humility to even see him acknowledge where he went wrong.
Mwalimu was one of the best ever.
A very insightful interview - focuses on the economic performance and choices, where, as Nyerere with rare humility in African rulers, admits, mistakes were made. But there are so many other things that he got right. So many. Tanzanians were lucky to have him as their founding president.
nakupongeza...umejibu vizuri (well said). 👍
As a Kenyan, I have nothing but deep respect for President nyerere, he had genuine intentions for his country, our first President Kenyatta adopted the better option of mixed economy but was a greedy and corrupt
What do you have to say about the results Nyerere produced for Tanzanians?
@@maambomumba6123 ...As any other leader...there are positive and negative results as consequence of their leadership philosophies and strategies, so start with which ones do you prefer more to hear about him?!
@@maambomumba6123 economically kenya did better, but there are somethings he did which were really positive, like inclusivity, almost zero tribalism etc
@@maambomumba6123Tanzanians have a National identity. Something Kenyans have never had.
@@maambomumba6123Nyerere brought about inclusivity whereby nobody in the country feels disenfranchised while another feels entitled just like how it happens in Kenya where some people call themselves 'shareholders'. He did put a firm political foundation and I believe Tanzania will surpus Kenya and other African countries in future
Imagine the the Man of this Calibre admitting and agreeing on the mistakes he made, and somehow regret it. But today's leaders in Tz , their praised, and praised and they paradise themselves, even if they made clear mistakes, they don't correct it and admitt it. And when someone criticize them they file some charges against him,. This Guy with all power he had, he was so so wise
Julius Kambarage Nyerere was a leader in a class of one!!! No other African leader even comes close to his calibre; and this list includes every African leader to date.
The leadership of Tanzania right now is the product of his mistakes
@@Ahdall
Exactly.
Baba, asante. Thank you for admitting that you made a mistake. It is not often that leaders accept the mistakes they made and you even more a representation of African Fathers, you have humbled yourself but made yourself Greatest. We the Tanzanian Children forgive you and are easy on you because we now understand there was no other choice but to choose what you did for the betterment of our then young nation. We know it was not your intention to fail because you had a big vision unfortunately Socialism was a failed plan. You live in our hearts forever baba. Viva Nyerere
Julius was a man ahead of his time. Lord bless our continent with leaders like him.
I have read many policy books from this gem of Africa. My respect for him is top-notch...
@lovelytemenu1481 our motherland is in desperate need for leaders of his calibre
How was he ahead of his time?
@maambomumba6123 globally, you won't find many leaders with such clarity and passion about improving the lives of their citizens. Instead we have the likes of Paul Biya and the Bongos of this world.
@@PanAfricanist1963 I’m referring to the actual results of his administration and governance. What material results did his presidency yield for Tanzanians? You seem to be enamored by his words rather than taking stock of his actual performance as a president.
That teachers handwriting on the board is so satisfying.
Legend, African legend and a genuine leader. He admits mistakes and explains why it was a mistake. Oh God give us this type of leaders again.
To be a leader is to be able to admit when you didn't get right, if African leaders can be able to admit mistakes and exxplain the rational of their decisions at the same time pivoting towards better and sustainable solutions to the mistakes that were made b4.
A TRUE LEADER 🔥
This president was clever and pure politician.
Good Visions don’t mean Good Ideas. I admired Dr Julius Nyerere , it is refreshing to hear him admit , his policies ( some or most ) were ill planned.
ill planned is a euphemism for utter failure that led to the impoverishment of millions of Tanzanians.
@@maambomumba6123 I am giving him credit for admitting mistakes were made and owned it , whether it is utter failure or not is not for me to debate about or argue cause I have not assessed the system he laid out to develop his country. Good people/ leaders admit when they are wrong , I am sure you will agree . Tanzania may have had issues but she was never a laughing stock like some other countries.
@@maambomumba6123 your just an arrogant individual who have no idea of the whole context in African perspective. Nyerere was more than a leader. As a Tanzanian
@@ElimanGibba Tanzania, I’ve read before, received more multilateral aid per capita than any other African country. The need for the aid is of course not a matter to laugh at. It’s very serious. But I would hardly present it as a case of them doing better than other African countries on average.
@@ElimanGibba since you have an idea of the whole African context, please share it here as far as Nyerere administration and legacy is concerned. Thanks.
A great statesman. Sadly, very few of his calibre exist anywhere in the world today.
Profit is still the best driver in all enterprises. Socialism will therefore always fail whenever it's tried.
I have to respect him calling himself out on his flawed decisions based on what he knew at the time.
Still… this single decision is what handed Kemal dominance in the region. Had Tanzania not done this, they would have been far ahead of Kenya today as they have a better port. Socialism 0 - capitalism 1.
No public sector will ever eclipse the private sector in efficiently and effectiveness simply because if your input is all you have, you’ll work much more effectively and efficiently to survive. No public sector can ever have that pressure simply because it’s not responsible for funding itself as a do-or-die issue.
I wish Nyerere had had a commercially minded leader to over economical functions to. Tanzania would have been an African a powerhouse with its abundant agricultural engine.
Ours vs mine any situation, Ours can easily be corrupted! Individual owners work harder and protect their property.
Well that isn't always the case in his case the socialist regime lacked accountability look at countries like China have been socialist for longtime and are still thriving
@@musers9699
Thanks to market liberalization and reforms. Before Deng, China was floundering.
Every country is socialist. It depends on the services which are socialized and which percentage of the economy is left to run in a competitive capitalistic manner.
I quite agree with you. Very often this is not obvious. The main issue really is controlling capital flight and having indigenous industries.
Because of some of Mwalimu policies are the reason why literary every Tanzania family had a minimum of acre of land to put on a structure to live in and cultivate! Being not a typical industrial and technologically advanced a people and society, as advanced social sector, to provide means of subsistence for the majority, through employment, you can see what this means for Kenyans!
I disagree fundamentally with Julius Nyerere but what I respect about him was he was a thinker and recognises his mistakes.We need African capitalists state with a mixture of welfare states for health only !
Health only? I would say education, housing and grants for elderly and disabled parsons
@@johnlembo2955 actually you are right,however no grants if you did not pay into the system.Just becomes a burden in thee future
@vre7474 caring for elderly and disabled ones shouldn't be a burden to any society really, that's what it is done in developed countries anyway.
@@johnlembo2955💯👍
@@johnlembo2955
Yet they are if they along with the "needy" happen to outnumber the younger and able-bodied workers and producers.
Nyerere was a Pan-African leader and alongside Nkrumah of Ghana they did alot in this African continent, especially during liberation of African countries against colonial rule. Ofcoz you won't see much of their histories books written by colonizers. Coz these were not puppet leaders like these other leaders who are glorified in many African history books written en by Europeans.
Dont allow private sector to control economy of your country that what he believes
Resulting in a country that cannot sustain itself without foreign aid, tyranny or the ever-volatile resource economy like Nauru.
Panyar Dit brought me here
I don't think he failed us, he was able to unit all of us as Tanzanians, thats very important the whole Africa is in flame because of Capitalism, economy can grow and at any time, im proud of my president you were not a failure at all, all these other countries are killing each other because of Tribalism you didn't fail us. We are one and together we can rise up at any time..UMOJA NI NGUVU UTENGANO NI UDHAIFU..R.I.P BABA WA TAIFA.
Wait you're serious?
@@sebastienholmes548 what part of Africa you from? Look at the issues your country is facing and divided you have become, we don't have those issues in Tanzanian, we all speak one language, and no tribalism at all , he was never a failure
@@shaqdizo7678 you are one of the poorest nations on the planet.
@@shaqdizo7678 look at botswana.
@@shaqdizo7678
Yet it's poorer than Kenya with all the political turmoil it suffered post-independence.
The only tz national speaks fluent engoo
English is not everything to Us... it's just part of Us as global citizens but not everything.Good example is despite our inability to speak fluent English as you, we never went on roads to protest because of Corn flour😊! We are good without it.
Speaks better English than your entire country
@@titokwareh1852 It is so interesting an adult like you could feel proud for something that is not yours, you have attitude of a slave, you feel proud for Identity of people who doesn't even care about you!!
@@ireneque9813 ahsante dada kwa jibu lako....tunashukuru.
@@titokwareh1852Mbona baadhi ya waafrika wanadhani kifahamu cha lugha za kigeni (haswa kiingereza) inawafanya kuwa bora zaidi kuliko wenzao? Kwani kunaubaya gani ukiwa na fahari kuzungumza lugha ya uzazi? Kuna watanzania wanaozungumza lugha la ukoo, kiswahili, pamoja na lugha la tatu ambayo ni ya kigeni (kama kiingereza). Watanzania wanajivunia kwa kuzungumza lugha zetu za kibantu. Tafadhali tusiwe na chuki kwa waafrika wenzetu wasiozungumza kiingereza vizuri kama nchi zingine.
BASIC TRANSLATION: Tanzania is a wonderful country with more than 100 ethnic groups (120+) who live peacefully within its borders. We are proud of being fluent in our indigenous African languages. The priority for most Tanzanians is to be as productive a member of society as possible --- in whatever way possible, and in whichever language we choose to speak. We are respectful of those who show respect to us.
biggest mistake in Tanzania was not adopting English as their business language while having Swahili as national language.
That language you call a mistake, united all of 150 tribes and gave them Identity.....We understand importance of English as global citizens, we are currently working on it, majority of young Tanzanians are getting better! But Swahili was a blessing to Tanzania especially as young nation.
@@ireneque9813 English could have done that...we are in 2024 tanzania is trying to catch up with capitalism... former user has Russian as uniting language...then what happened? Local language is useless in the international market .it has made tanzania very uncompetitive .it's good that your now teach English from kindergarten...
@@stevostevozz1168 Everything has pros and cons (Swahili and English as well)....Kenyans started with English but is has never helped them to eradicate tribalism. You are right on the benefits of English it's business language but Tanzania is making progress.... better late than never!
This is not true at all. English will not unite the nation. How did you come up with that. Just look around Africa.
@@user-tm2mt5ms5o I didn't say unite the nation..I said capitalism and economy of tanzania will improve plus tanzanians will get more opportunities abroad if they speak English better... currently tanzania is united umoja but still way behind kenya economically..Kenya is divided but still ahead decades despite disunity... basically UJAMAA and kiswahili did not make tanzania economically competitive.. 😂. .you my reasoning now ? How far economically of tanzania has chosen capitalism and English as lingua franca ???
I very much like Dr Nyerere but he was one of the Presidents who stood against Dr Kwame Nkrumah's advocate for a united African state
Because Nkrumah's delusions of grandeur became more and more evident and if anything the would-be united African state was spared what he already did to Ghana.
FAMILY PLANNING...anyone???...Where are all those girls in those crowded schools going to get jobs?
Family planning is happening naturally, humans tend to recognize when overcrowded.
Girls or boys don't make any difference ... They just showed girls but they are as many boys as girls 😅
Nyerere and his policies was right and he is the best leader we ever had as Tanzanians and Tanzania. Forget about all these European perspectives of Nyerere completely bull shit.
We know the system was against socialism from the very beginning,let alone the back crash and economical barriers from powerful European countries 😂😂😂
Btw i don't see any African country (subsaharan) doing so much better economically than Tanzania, we are almost at the same level
Julius K Nyerere is easily one of the worst national leaders in Africas history. Perhaps the world. Sheer incompetence. Applied widespread socialism through Ujama in a nation that had all the pre conditions for vast prosperity. Socialism fails because socialism is an inherently flawed system. To plan and coordinate an industry, let alone an economy, from central authority is arrogant and dangerous.
Look other African nations except few like South African, Ghana
then justify your argument with a reflection of Tanzania's position now in Africa.
@@ireneque9813 please rephrase that, thanks.
There is no system which isnt flawed somehow. Mostly Ujamaa failed on its economic policies. On the other hand Ujamaa brought peace, harmony and united a country with 127 tribes with land mass as big as Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi and Malawi combined.
Not to forget, Tanzania was the capital of Africa's liberation as Ujamaa was at the forefront of Africa's liberation struggle. Eventhough it cost them dearly but it was a successful project that had to be done where more than 20 countries were liberated.
The success of nationalizing land. Today, Tanzania isnt going through what other African countries are going through whereas few families or entities are holding majority of land while leaving majorities without land.
It should be noted, when Mwalimu stepped down in 1985, Tanzania illiteracy rate had dropped to single digits from 71% in 1967 surpassing some developed nations.
What I am trying to point out is, one cant simply label Ujamaa as a total failure.
Please go back and read history ....
Please go back and read history