No more analog cable in my area (Comcast stinks!)
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- čas přidán 21. 03. 2012
- On 6/12/09 all full powered over-the-air broadcast stations turned off their analog signal and replaced it with a digital signal; which, required a converter box or a new TV with a built in digital tuner in order to view OTA programming. Comcast, however, still continued to provide around 60 channels in analog format that could be viewed on most older cable ready analog TV's without a converter box. And, channels 2-13 could be viewed on most any TV, regardless of age. About a year ago, Comcast dropped all analog channels above channel 12; which, required the use of their digital cable box on any TV in order to view those channels. They said they'd give each customer up to 3 digital converter boxes for free and any additional boxes would cost extra per month. We decided that the cable was too high as it was and that we would not be giving them any more money for box rentals. So, we accepted our 3 free boxes for the 3 main TV's and we made do with channels 2-12 on the other two TV's that were connected to cable. Well, two days ago, they dropped channels 2-12 from analog delivery. Now, you must have one of their digital boxes in order to receive any cable channels. I refuse to rent any additional converter boxes; so, I will be connecting OTA DTV converter boxes and an antenna to those TV's that don't have a cable box connected to them. And, digital cable is not that relaible. The picture will freeze and drop out, the sound will drop out, the channels will sometimes not change and/or be on the wrong position, the boxes overheat, etc. Once, I suddenly lost all service and had to call the cable company for them to send a signal down the line to reprogram the converter box.
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so true! "Change is not always progress." -Henry Ford
I agree! 30 years ago, the cable was around $17/mo and the quality of programming and service was better. Now, we have crappy digital service that often does not work right and the bill is now over $70/month.
That happened here in Connecticut last year, no more analog cable. I sure do miss the analog signal.
its awful - with an analog signal - you could still watch stuff ...even if it was fuzzy - now - if you aren't getting a nearly perfect signal - it just locks up....or nothing at all....
hellomcflyy That's the thing I don't understand about over the air digital TV. When I first read about how great digital TV was going to be back in 2003,, they claimed the picture would always be perfect or you would get no picture. That's not true. With analog the picture might get fuzzy but t at least you see what was happening on screen. A bad digital signal will drive you crazy, because it will be great for 40 seconds and totally drop out for 2 minutes or so and then come back. I'd rather have it the old way. .
ldchappell1 I totally agree with you. Least with Analog, you could still watch it even when it was fuzzy but with digital, you can't.
You think we should start a protest by refusing to use digital channels?
Dray Crouse Sounds like a good idea.
@@DrayCrouse lmaooooooo yall think this gon work- they've been putting off officially forcing all stations to convert or cease operation, and the final end date is in a month or two. :)
You sound like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead.
On traditional cable ready TV's, that channel is somewhere up in the 90's. I think it comes in somewhere in the 40's on this conventional non-cable ready set. I think the FCC ruling was that cable companies had to provide at least the basic channels in analog until 2012, or provide a converter to receive these channels in the event of digital only delivery. Well, 2012 is here and Comcast has now dropped all analog channels and are charging a monthly rental fee for each converter box.
Thank goodness, I have DirecTV from AT&T, and I can get their channels on there. Here in New York, there were so many TV stations out there around the city where you can get your TV channels. I remember back in the day when analog TV was good, I can get the TV stations when I used to live in the city. I remember channels 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11 and 13, and all 6 channels are on there, except for channels 3, 6, 8, 10 and 12 are all snow. I miss analog TV since it has been when it went digital 7 years ago.
I had a cable read LXI tv from 86 that would not receive some cable channels without the digital box unless i watced I tuned into them
with the VCR. This was in the early 2000's. That TV was second hand.
i wanted to add to the discussion 14 years later: spectrum (time warner cable) also offered a nice handful of channels (i think around 30?) in analog format or to where you could scan and find several channels long after the digital switchover. my dad originally used a splitter from the main cable box (the only one we had) in the living room, which is how i got my kids channels in the connecting den. in 2017 the FCG stepped up so they had to end the service and require cable boxes for all tv’s.
that was 5-7 years ago. we’ve been moved out of that house and we don’t really have cable anymore. my parents split and my dad still has it but he doesn’t have a top of the line cable box, he just signs in through his TV. me & my mom on the other hand don’t have cable of any kind that we pay for and use streaming services today. in retrospect, this is the biggest jump in tv advancements i have ever seen, to go from traditional cable to now where you don’t need cable at all. the companies that were once running a monopoly are now failing to adapt to todays standards, and it’s interesting to see.
I remember when analog cable went out in my area in 2009. I didn't even have a TV for a couple months because my family was moving during that time.
im a bit like that too. analogue tele in NZ got switched off around april, so you have to either pay for Sky each month or get a freeview box which can plug into rabbit ears or a rooftop aerial
I shunned digital too at first. I live in an area that over-the-air is the most common way to view TV channels. Over the next year or 2 after the switch reception got MUCH better around here. I have received stations as far away as 100 miles from me like they were right beside the house. That all depends on the weather at the time to be able to receive that far away. Now it seems to work very good. I'm still using all my picture tube TV's on converter boxes. They still work and the picture is OK
It's happening in Australia too. Lets make our own analogue channels
we still have it :) until september
I know how you feel! Spectrum did that to me this year!
A TV equipped with a built-in ATSC tuner will receive over-the-air signals without the need for a converter box. However, if you plan to use it with digital cable, you will need a digital cable box from your cable provider.
What channel was the internet test pattern on? That's sad, so much for the FCC saying all cable cos must keep their basic package in analog.
You're right!!! Always going out,for hours and hours!!!!!!
Does Comcast use clear QAM?
Cable is ancient! The internet is coming and will do away with satellite and cable!
internet is delivered through satellite and cable!
@@john-vg9lg That pretty much what satellite and cable is use for nowadays. A lot newer or refurbish homes around my area that don't have fiberoptic service, now just have one cable jack, usually in a utility room or closet, where the internet modem and router plugs in.
what is that silver grey thing called, i am doing a media assignment and i do not know what it is called so i can't google it or anything -.- greatly appreciated
I have Digital a Box on all my TV's Yes I can still get analog channels 2-21 no box anything above channel 21-78 box required I'm on Mediacom Cable......
That's the thing with digital broadcasting. If you get in the way of the signal of if something else gets in the way, the whole signal will completely stop, but if something gets in the way of an analog signal, no problem. Just a little bit of static is all.
Are 2-12 still up?
We only have one TV that's new enough to be digital and I've yet to see if it will pick up any of the cable channels. I know that such channels would have to be in clear QAM format in order to be received. Today, a friend told me that he is dumping comcast because they are going to start charging $5/month rental on each digital box you have. I knew that "free box" thing wouldn't last. Their idea was to get boxes in homes and then eventually charge rental fees + the already too high bill.
radiotvphononut me uncounted a tall pole out side a 150 mile range outdoor antenna I get all my local channels fine the antennas people had years ago withn the rods channel master
Interesting how that tv picked it up - you do know that digital basic is in the clear, just hook up a QAM tuner to that tv and you will be set.
We have channel 6,4,11,40 still working in Baton Rouge Louisiana
Well in a month they will shut down FM where i live in Norway>:(
what?
Ever heard of the digital switch over
You will have to live with the changes to cable systems. Even the OTA antenna channels are all digital now and are picked up through an Antenna.
Nowadays compared to 2012, we probably don't care anymore about analog tv anymore. We forgot about it now. This is the first radiotvphononut video I watched. Oh boy time changes.
When I was a young kid in the early '80's, all we had were channels 2-12 on the cable and we never had a problem finding something to watch. Then, the quality of programming went down. Now, we have hundreds of channels with the same crap programming on all of them.
my favor man,you and me have a lot things in common
It happen here in Ohio with time Warner in 2015 a year before they where bought out by charter spectrum in 2016
Sling TV only $20.00 to streaming cable networks no rates or fees for you I would recommend Roku express it has compiste out you can get rf modular still but family Dollar stop selling rf modulars reason if I was you drop cable now keep internet because rates going for live cable TV streaming is has better quality than cable because cable compress their singal
Hopefully, this won't happen; but, in the event of a large EMP, we'll be going back to using tubes for communications because such an EMP would likely fry any solid state equipment.
At least propane and propane accessories will never switch to digital
Nice King of The Hill reference 😂
here in the uk digital TV sucks and I have to keep retuning the TV and they move channels around more often than the supermarkets move stock around the store digital satellite is even worse it wont work in heavy rain !
I agree with you DTV
Damnit Bobby!
Only value they have is nostalgia
Because I Like Capitalizing each word
I remember the shitty Comcast converter boxes, got the same stupid errors. We canceled Comcast in favor of over the air.
My "tube and crank tuner TV's" ain't going nowhere as long as I can repair them and as long as there's a converter box to feed them. I can see just as much on an old TV as I can on a modern "etch-a-sketch" looking modern chinese POS that won't last nearly as long and likely can't be fixed.
That's the way it is today, like it or not. I don't care a whole lot for DTV myself (not to mention I honestly cannot tell the difference between analog and digital television), which is why I kept my two analog NTSC TV sets. My flat screen still works after almost seven years; however, when it finally quits, I'm going to replace it with my Zenith SMS1917SG 19" CRT set which still works every bit as well today as when it was new. It's going to mean using my Roku Internet device and an RF modulator with the old set, but if I can still use the Zenith with this lashup I really don't care. The biggest problem I will have is hooking up both my DVD player and VCR to the TV, as the Zenith does not have direct video input jacks as do some 1990s-21st century NTSC analog sets. I'm sure there must be a way I can connect both devices to the TV, but at the moment I can't think of it.
radiotvphononut That's with I mounted a big tall antenna outside channel master I get all my local channels free clear picture my antenna can is over priced
@@jeffstrieble260 I still use old 4:3 crt WEGA, my first widescreen set was a Samsung Tantus dad gave me after owning it for 3 yrs, I got 3 yrs use till it crapped out
I got atsc tv is that good
It was basically the same way here, we had a hybrid Silvertone colour TV console with a rotary dial, made by Philco, channels 2 to 13 unless you had a convertor, there was maybe 3 or four over the air stations, nothing really on UHF. But I was just saying to someone that I can still remember when most TV channels were like MeTv or TCM, there was always something to watch. Now a cable package means that you get to watch the same trash on six identical channels in six time zones.
In my area analoug shutdown was about 2010 I really hate digital I prefer analoug satellite
We've had digital TV for 6 years here in the bay area in California. Free digital TV is not too bad here.. I get over 80 channels. I actually prefer it to what I was getting with Comcast Basic service. One thing I hate about digital TV is every time I use my microwave oven, the picture goes out on my favorite channel.
ldchappell1 How do you get free digital tv? I am using an old analog tv set, it is not HD or digital. Any help would be appreciated, I don't know whether to get rabbit ears or a digital converter box.
Lori King If you have an older TV set manufactured before 2006, you need to buy a TV digital converter box. I've seen them priced from $40 to $60. You will also need an antenna with the box. The antenna depends on where you live. If you live in a city like I do, simple rabbit ears will work just fine. If you live more than 20 miles from an urban area you might need a more powerful antenna with amplification.. Many retail places will try to sell you an expensive antenna which they claim is a "digital antenna" There is NO such thing as a digital antenna. All antennas are the same. Good luck. = )
Thank you! You've been a great help.
You could get a special offer maybe,in the UK Virgin Media are currently offering an additional HD Digital box with no additional charges,however,when you cease to be a customer or if you upgrade to something better,redundant boxes are to be returned,analogue boxes to be recycled/disposed of. Also Virgin Media cable phone in the UK runs on a seperate line, I see the USA cable phone seems intergrated with the broadband/TV
Years ago, a TV repairman friend saw a day when all radio/TV service would be on a pay basis. I thought he was crazy at the time; but, I'm now seeing that he wasn't so crazy. Concerning analog, at least an analog signal will be of some use when it's weak. When a digital signal goes weak, it's unusable.
A work around a Good Outdoor antenna
Now you know why vintage t.v.'s are a dead collector mkt.,vintage radios same deal, and vintage record players will be the last to die and vintage amps will keep on trucking and vintage digital will be DOA as a collectable as the repair value will exceed the cost of new by 1000%.
boy this aged like milk-
im just gonna sit here with halo on my trinitron
If you want to you could get an clunky RF modular and rabbit ears and you can use the rotary turner on you vintage televisions
Few months ago they cut off analog cable here. Not like it matters because nothing is worth watching.
I thought the point of going digital was for better communications for airspace travelers. I also thought that they did it to air a few different streams of programs in order not to cram. For example, instead of channel 7, you get channel 7.1 or 7-1.
Channel 7.1 is what is called a DTV subchannel. The new digital television standard allows TV stations to carry more than one program on any given channel. For example, channel 7.1 may be that station's main signal, channel 7.2 could be (for example) local weather, channel 7.3 could be sports...and so on. There is no such thing as "channel 7" anymore since DTV took over from analog.
The reason local TV stations still identify themselves on-air by their NTSC channel numbers in the DTV era is to avoid confusion. I live near Cleveland; we have channels 3, 5 and 8 here, but those are the old NTSC analog channel numbers. Channel 3 actually telecasts its DTV signal over channel 17, but the station has kept its "channel 3" branding ever since the late 1950s. The other local TV stations, except channel 19, followed suit. Channel 19, the CBS affiliate for northeastern Ohio, telecasts its DTV signal on VHF channel 10, which is causing a station in Canada no end of trouble during TV band openings (and vice-versa), to say nothing of causing local viewers reception problems if they do not use a high-power outdoor antenna, cable or satellite. I know this all too well, as I live 30 miles east of Cleveland (40+ miles southwest of the Cleveland TV transmission towers) and do not receive channel 19 without cable; FCC rules notwithstanding, I cannot use an outdoor antenna because I live in an apartment building. If channel 19 would follow through with its eventual plans to move its 9.5-kW ERP (!) signal from channel 10 to a UHF channel, the reception problems east of Cleveland, and especially along the Lake Erie shoreline, would be solved, once and for all. The station already has a UHF translator covering an area west of Cleveland that all but lost the signal from that station after the DTV transition; why they do not do the same for us folks east of town along the lake who have also lost the station's OTA signal is beyond me.
At least now in the year 2023 Comcast now has the X one box which is significantly better.
It’s been 10 years since analog TV pulled the plug. Now all we need is Netflix, Disney+, Hulu, and other streaming services to watch you favorite shows. CZcams is good than analog TV.
The good and bad things about digital broadcast TV
The good: each TV station (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW, etc.) multiplexes their signals, populating their digital subchannels with a plethora of specialty channels, like MeTV, Buzzr, H&I, Laff, Comet etc. Clean picture with good signals.
The bad: Not all markets may have the digital subchannels you may want, but if they do, good for you! Also, low picture quality results in pixelization and if the quality is super low, no picture at all! It's not easy to get a signal areas with mountainous terrain or dense foliage.
Charter did the same thing with us we get a set top box or cable card we now have five set top boxes we stuck with cable because we live Down in a hole that has a lot of trees even with a amp HDTV we only get nbc cbs and fox abc is to far from where we live to pick it up
I Couldnt AgrEe More, Our Neifhborhood Has A Cable Headend Meaning An Rf Modulator And CablE Box In A Main Building So We Get Both Analog And Hd Comcast CaBle Without The Darn Box.
No more analog cable from Comcast Comcast is offering digital cable
A bunch of TV Transmitters tuned to different channels should get ya full use out of the rotary tuner, I still use my mid 70's TV, picture is great, I had to make my own antenna for the DTV box, and all channels come through clear!!
Analog Cable in hotel room is still working
hotels generally modulate digital signals into analog
and it dosn't matter if you have a digital TV you still need a free or a fullservice digital converter with cable to get service. the only advantage you get with a digital ready tv is you dont need a converter to hook up to an antenna and you can get HD service if you want to pay for it. And if I'm correct on the date the FCC regulated all cable operators to have their analog service deactivated by 2013.
I LOVE ANALOG. I have a RCA XL 100 television from 1990.
almost 4 years ago all along cable was gone i switch to sling tv never go back to cable tv becouse i can watch tv channels for 25 dollars month on any device cheper than cable
64 qam upstream, 256 down
Digital sucks. Not only is it not supported on the older sets and Comcast has bad customer service, the reception is horrible as well.
Those were the days when televisions were built to last, I remember as a child my parents would call a TV repair guy, now you just throw your old tevs away.
We in Germany have still analog Cabel in some area.
Hotel have analog cable
However, that was for full-power analog stations. I think the reason why analog cable service went away is so that cable companies like Comcast could control.
Not just Comcast (now known as Xfinity), but every other cable operator in this country. Now that all U. S. TV is digital, every cable operator, with no exceptions, now requires all subscribers to use some sort of cable box or Internet device ahead of the TV if they are going to get any reception at all; just connecting the cable directly to your TV doesn't work anymore. The only way anyone can get TV reception without cable is with an OTA (over the air) antenna, but even they do not work, well or in some cases at all, in all reception areas. I live near Lake Erie and do not receive, using an OTA antenna, two important TV stations from Cleveland; this means I must have cable to receive those stations, and to get decent reception on the ones I can receive over an indoor antenna.
Where I live, you have to get a cable box (or a cable card for a new style TV) to watch anything on an older TV or any VCR. I have Cablevision with 2 boxes and sell older TVs bu using a VCR playing tapes.
In addition to the pixelation that others have mentioned, there is something else to the dark side of all those new digital channels that isn't talked about: Profit and politics. Whatever programming or service is put on those 4-7 digital subchannels is totally at the whim of the primary station owner--usually a corporation. The subchannels do, after all, use the transmitting facilities of the primary channel. I've seen this already in my area with RTV being replaced with Antenna TV.
tried this and no luck
i got 5 channels with atsc tuner
The reason your Picture Freeze up and your sound cut's out is because Cable Companyes uses a Satellite Dish to get all the Network's in for your TV.
My main complaints with digital is it's "all or nothing" nature and the fact that the cable company will get more money out of us per month for converter box rentals. I know digital has it's advantages; but, with analog, you could have a less than perfect signal and get a watchable picture. With digital, less than a near perfect signal will give you nothing watchable.
Is snow ⛄️
Oh, I know more about it than I'd like to. It applies only to OTA broadcasting and has nothing to do with cable.
The range is about 1/4th mile and it's legal. I stream oldies and play stuff I like to listen too and NO Commercials. So, the rest of the world can go digital and I'll listen to my old music on my old radios. :) The transmitter was a kit from SSTRAN Check it out on the Internet. I got the model 5000 and the kit was about $250. THe sound is very good. This is legal. We can run 100mw into an antenna no longer than 3 meters. With a little work, some people are getting a 2 mile or more range.
HANK!
This is what i'm so afraid off..the digital MAFFIA.... analog tv is good enough for me and a lot of peole, you're able to split the signal to any tv you want and howmany tv's you want.
I'm thinking to stop whatch tv at all... i hate the way they stuff it in our throats, this digital crap
We can still play VHS on our old sets
its so they can push faster and faster internet and more hd. just follow the money.
Everybody hates it when things become obsolete...
As someone who loves retro and analog technology, I actually do.
That's what I did.
I agree, Well, get ready, AM, FM and SW radio are all planning to convert to digital ASAP. In Japan, they have already switched FM to digital.
Personally, I really hate for AM and SW to change because those bands can propagate great distances and unless you are close to the source the signal will not be copyable. Of course, the AM and FM bands are getting so loaded with STUPID commercials that it's hardly worth listening. I built an AM transmitter that covers the AM band and covers MORE>>>>>
Hank hill
In favor of Digital Cable TV.
A gallon of gas averaged $1.24 and the quality of that has changed even less... Ohh and minimum wage was under $3.50 and hour too... everything costs more, TV, internet, phone that's not new. Companies like ESPN, FOX, HBO, TRUTV all charge more so companies like dish, direct tv, comcast, charter etc have to pass that along to us or they will go under for inability to compete in technology and innovation, that's what people want.
First off do you know the difference between over the air service and cable TV service? His problem is that Comcast was converting the digital to analog for older TVs but stopped doing so with no notification or consultation, this has absolutely nothing to do with the FCC or over the air frequency allocation this has to do with what they were piping through the wire. He was paying for cable TV service he has every right to complain.
I KNOW , ITS ABSURDEY , ANALOG AND DIGITAL GOTTA COEXIST AND NOT SMASH ANY OF THEM WW LOL :)
Why does your comment have too many negative votes? It's a great comment!
cable compines not to blame last analog broadcast ened because fcc man dated it
@@john-vg9lg no they are phase out all anlog brodcast am fm radio in next five or 4 years will be digtal reason we have so many devices interfere with anlog singal
@@john-vg9lg also codeing for digtal is awful and unstable not fast enough
i have comcast and it stinks
Install an out door Antenna I did I gets lots of Christian TV Channels Local news I like using my OTA Converter
yes i hate that and digital sucks anyway
More content, that's a laugh, more like multiple channels of Jerry Springer, dumb fake "Reality" TV shows, a billboards.
Lets see, more channels, less content, bigger price, lousy service, one more reason to cut the cable.
Coming Soon Drop Comcast Cable & Get DirecTV,It's Much Better & Cheaper & A Roku Streaming Player to Get Video On-Demand & internet TV,Also Just Keep Comcast For High-Speed Internet Only,& Also in Your Programming Rant Like I Said,They Still Show Few Classic Shows & Movies on TCM,Hallmark Channel,TV Land,& INSP,Encore Westerns & Other networks
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This is an example of what you're actually missing by holding on to that old school tube TV. That's me being under the assumption that you're not working with an old school CRT monitor (and judging by the choice of TV.... yea LOL). I get that the TV's made decades ago are easier to work on and last longer.. But they just don't rise to the occasion when it comes to color, sharpness, clarity. You're too funny...
I'm gonna guess that you are a Capricorn.
Switch to satellite tv
They're just as bad as the Cable TV companies. You're better off getting something like Fubo TV or Orbi.