3 Experiment Comparing The Strength: Baking Soda, Cement, Charcoal, Styrofoam
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- Welcome to Gaus DIY channel, this video is about the experiment comparing the strength of Baking Soda, Cement, Charcoal, Styrofoam when combined with Super Glue, through this video we will know which type is best for repairing plastic, wood and metal items.
Then practical application in repairing broken plastic items, car bumpers, and repairing scissors right at home.
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I didn't know that the results were obscured, I would like to add the results as follows:
Baking Soda - Styrofoam - Charcoal - Cement
Test 1: Top1 - Top 4 - Top 3 - Top2
Test 2: Top1 - Top 3 - Top 4 - Top2
Test 3: Top3 - Top 4 - Top 1 - Top2
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To be accurate, you should use EXACTLY the same amount of glue with each bonding agent. Having been a plastic modeler for 60 years, and having been using cyanoacrylate glue since it's introduction as Eastman 910 in the very late 1960's, I could have told you, baking soda (or sodium carbonate, "washing soda") would be BY FAR the superior bonding agent to ANY material bond. The Eastman Chemicals "poop sheet" on Eastman 910 (there are and entire SERIES of Eastman "900" "super-glues") plainly states that alkaline agents promote the strongest bonds. The first was made to bond the wing spars of B-52's in place! Yes, the wings of B-52's are GLUED-ON! My late Daddy machined the two plates of the wing attachments from high grade aluminum. They form a hinge that allows the wing to move over 12 feet vertically from at rest to full load in flight.
Baking soda, chemical name - sodium bicarbonate.
Washing soda, chemical name - sodium carbonate.
Thank you. I learn more from comments than from the video.
So what's your point? He used bicarbonate of soda for these tests not caustic soda....caustic soda is very dangerous.
Interesting information. Thank You.
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Caustic soda was never mentioned.
Recall test result:
(1) Wood-to-metal
baking soda 5.505 kg
cement 4.425 kg
styroform 3.2 kg
charcoal 4.095 kg
(2) Plastic-to-plastic:
baking soda 0.785 kg
cement 0.65 kg
styroform 0.365 kg
charcoal 0.35 kg
(3) Wood-to-wood:
baking soda 5.445 kg
cement 6.8 kg
styroform 3.16 kg
charcoal 8.245 kg
Thanks
Thanks for the experiments. Do you have any comparison with lead? 🙏
Thank you my love
Scusa la curiosità, hai provato legno legno con segatura e super colla ? Che ne pensate
i think cement is the best, because more stable than other
There were so many UNCONTROLLED variables that the data is useless. The positioning hook of the scale was erratic, the amount of each of the powders used, the amount of the glue, the size of the surfaces, the temperatures, etc.
How many hours did he let it dry?
poeple dont knbow how to test things
Yea hook positioning made this data not useful it was a good try tho
same thought, best result should be hang up, and put the weight at the end, and pull it via gravity
That's how research is made now. The number of views and likes shows if the result was a success
Interesting experiments, but there were a few things that make the results difficult to interpret. Most have to do with standardization within each experiemental condition. For example, the actual amount of gule applied and the gapping between surfaces. The most glaring though, was the inconsistent placement of wood and zip ties on the strength test. A force applied increases inproportion to the distance from the fulcrum. In effect, the further away from the fulcrum you placed the zip ties, the less measured force it would take to break the joint. I would recommend repeating these experiements, but standardizing everything.
Crazy Glue/Baking Soda Great for Guitar Nut Filed to Low
@randyaivaz3356 Thanks for that. That'll solve a problem for me.☺️ Need to fix an aluminium nut too. Maybe cement for the colour match.🤔
In Portugal we call that physics, and is probabily on the levers chapter. Very good point indeed.
You should've considered to include a 5th item which is just a super glue so we can differentiate how strong it is without mixing it to baking soda, Styrofoam, charcoal, and cement.
😂 You could do it yourself and upload the results for the CZcams scientists to scrutinize.
Just from my experience, it seems the baking soda is great for hard white plastic repairs. For more flexible plastic, use the Styrofoam. For black plastic, use the charcoal, but it works better when finely powdered like cigarette ash. Not sure if cement would be the best for bonding ceramic and stone, but it wouldn't surprise me. Super glue is acrilate that undergoes polymerization in the presence of water. I have seen acrylics (plexiglass) melted with acetone , which makes a hellava glue in its own right, but I have yet to see powdered acrylic and superglue done. Please make that video experiment.
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habe probiert. plexiglass und acetone, hat geklappt
Mix an alkaline material in with each of those regardless for best strength. Need to get that pH above 8 or so
you don't need any powder, just use a pencil to color black the surface then use couple of drop. that's it you are done.
you need to use file on very smooth surface as you can not draw from pencil on smooth surface such as glass, use little sanding or filing then rub pencil then stick.
You should have measured out the amount of additive/accelerant to ensure a fair comparison. On the plastic-to-plastic, you needed to make the distance from the vise jaws to the joint the same for all tests, as well as the distance from the joint to the pulling force. variations of those lengths will have a significant effect on the force applied.
I will note this 👍👍
Cierto, además del tiempo de secado, inicia la prueba al último que le coloca el superpegamento
Dude, this experiment is to work out which dodgy repair is the strongest- it’s hardly gonna need NASA accuracy 😅
@@timjohnun4297Bueno entonces para ti es igual pegar con moco! 😂
@@GausDIY The Law of Levers! Force = pressure x distance... Thus distance must be exactly equal for all tests.
The experiment has three problems:
1.- Time between the glue and the experiment. For example: cement has a time to toughen. If you last 24 jours between the glue and the experiment it is better
2.- You have to take the same distance between the glue and the site of the force, as you are doing an experiment of momentum force this is very different if you are 5 cm or 6 cm from the glue
3.- The distance of the two pieces of material must be the same. Is diffenrent if it brokes in the connection of materials or if it brokes in teh middle of the glue
And this experiment only is at flexion.... if you want to know the glue power you have to do it at longitudinal force.
Cement doesn't react with glue. The cement is just a filler matrix.
@@rbhe357
Cement reacts with the humidity of the atmosphere.
As cianocrilate is no waterproof, the cement wil be reacting days... and is going to be harder as it passes. But you have to see it, because cement with the reaction change its dimension and is possible that it makes micro-cracks that cracks the union
The measurement device should always be installed at the exact distance from the glued area at all test items. This was not the case. A small difference give already a big failure in accuracy.
There are one more mistake
The charcoal is not in powder form compared to other materials
Add that in your list
It should be a great feedback for the experiment
cotton works great too
I love the testing. I agree with everyone that a more controlled test, same amount of stuff, scale the exact same distance from the joint would make the test more accurate. But it is still interesting.
I agree, the leverage of distance from repair point to where force applied could make results change.
The method is not very meticulous, but the conclusion that Baking Soda is quite effective still holds, seemingly.
Exacto! El torque depende del largo de la palanca.
Very interesting experiments. I would like to see these experiments conducted with fibers: Glass fiber (from insulation), sawdust, 0000 steel wool, and some kind of plastic fibers.
Thank you for this. This is a bit helpful. However, it would be more accurate if you anchor the meter same exact point for all materials. Because even a slight difference in the anchoring of the weighing scale hook along the length of the pieces can spell a big difference (e.g. the closer to the glued joint, the harder it is to break, the farther from the joint, the easier it is to break; this is the principle of the lever). Another minor point is the amount of material used for the joints. It should be same weight in grams for all materials being compared, and exact same amount of super glue. Because for example, if you put a little bit more cement than baking soda, then obviously there will be a strength difference; same with amount of super glue.
Great video! Thanks for share ❤🎉
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This is OK for getting a general impression, but for a proper analysis of material strength and bonding ability, you'd need to do separate shear test and tension tests that eliminated factors of inconsistency. A tension test being two surfaces glued end-to-end and pull apart at 90 degrees from the glue plane. Shear is glueing two surfaces in an overlap manner and pulling it apart along the same plane as the bonded surface.
Controlling the distance from the joint is essencial…Directly affects the momentum to which each material is exposed. Nevertheless, great experiment to have macro conclusions. Perhaps a finest one comparing bkng soda to cement.
Should have tried out with sawdust as well. I used sawdust + superglue to stick a reverse threaded nut to it's Bakelite (or similar material) body, since I was unable to procure a replacement. It worked absolutely well, being exposed to super heated steam. Of course the joint did give up, but it did last far more than what I expected it would. Actually, the nut is still stuck to the compound that I created. The entire block became unstuck from the Bakelite body. So, metal + sawdust + superglue works well.
La mejor opción se obtiene mezclando tres elementos:
Bicarbonato, Carbón y Cianocrilato.
Hasta dónde he probado nada la ha superado
Hey! great work, the idea is interesting, I just think you need a little break of about 24 hours before applying force to make the most of the capacity of each glue.
Thank you
Thanks for doing this test. For me, I think baking soda is the way to go. It's easy to find and cheap. I don't have a clue where I would find a small amount of cement so it's just as well....
thank you so much
I enjoyed the video, but had a few after thoughts about application. I wonder about durability under different conditions such as excessive heat, moisture or repeated cycles of extreme temperature changes. I imagine most of the above examples would work great to reattach a fallen rear view mirror on your windshield, but couldn't function on a muffler, besides the weight, it also gets exposed to the weather conditions repeated shocks from bumps. Another video on that might be interesting too.
Maybe you should try fine salt, baking soda can also be found in different granules and I think the finest is the one that achieves the best results.
It works very well with ashes and it works good with a magic eraser I had that was falling apart and instead of throwing it away I used it super glue to glue something plastic and it works great for that Mr Clean Magic Eraser is a melamine foam and I think it's almost ideal for this type of application
Very imprecise methods. Just the placement of the hook on the samples can throw off the readings.
Excelente información Muchas gracias Lo pondré en práctica
Dziękuję za test👍🇵🇱
Mil gracias por ese experimento. Me ahorro el ensayo. Ahora tengo mejor apreciación de que utilizar en mis reparaciones.
Falto con algodón y con papel o cartón.
Thanks for the video. I like styrofoam since it's not a powder, it can be controlled better. However, if you need strength, Baking Soda is best for most applications. Cement seems to good for all applications. However it's a coarse powder. Harder to sand down smooth. Of course you could be more scientific by carefully marking and applying your force at specific points. I noticed there was some variability in where you applied the load. I don't think it would change the relative rankings.
Thank you for your comment, Have a nice day!
That is what I noticed. Especially in the last test. The Cement would have a higher scale load, but probably the same ranking for all.
@twinwankel - Since cement is coarse, I wonder if unsanded grout would be better?
Grazie per queste prove chiarificatrici.
Great video!
Some people are ridiculous in these comments! LMAO! This person wasn't doing an experiment for the FBI! They were testing which of the materials would work the best with in your home when you need to make a quick repair! We aren't talking about rocket science experiments here. Some of your comments want the same amount of glue, but if one product needs more glue for a connection, then that's OK. The issue is which material will generally work the best and these tests show that. If you feel you can do better, then create your own channel and do some experiments! Otherwise, RELAX!
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*Since baking soda is in powder form, the particles cannot hold together and form bonds. Naturally, since the glued carbonate is hard, it breaks after a certain resistance is applied. It may be a good idea to add glass fiber powder or carbon fiber powder to the baking soda to create a bond between the baking soda particles and provide strength.💡*
Never heard of this before, but it should work! I have used flox (chopped cotton microfibers) to add more strength to bondings, with excellent results.
sodium bicarb and iso glue catalyzes like fiberglass and resin. It gets extremely hot and ever since hearing about it maybe a decade ago, it's my go-to for rock solid repairs. I don't know if any of the other tests have strong chemical reactions but the baking soda is a game changer.
@@AN-kg4ei I had to look this up but..... sodium bicarbonate = baking soda.
The pulls should have been made from exact distances. Thanks for the demos...
I think also that the baking soda was the first applied and also the last tried. It had more time to set or cure than the last one.
Thank you for this test. I never knew which one to use.
you still don't. See comments above
For next time:
1: "Control": use pure super glue for one sample
2: Variable to Standardise: Distance between items to be glued
3: Variable to Standardise: Distance from joint at which force is applied
4: Variable to Standardise: Mass or Volume of Glue utilised
5: Variable to Standardise: Mass or Volume of non-glue component utilised
In short, (i) compare all to just glue, and (ii) TRY to make sure that the non-glue component is the only thing changed.
Thank you! Excelent job!!
I think that each joint should wait at least between 8 and 24 hours for drying to have more conclusive results. It seems to me that many of the tests have not even passed half an hour after applying and that is decisive. On the channel "El Angelito" he tests a ring with cyanoacrylate and sodium bicarbonate, and with a crane he is able to lift a washing machine and then a platform with more than 200 kilos. And stretching the joint transversally is not the same as stretching it longitudinally. Good! You already have material for another video.
thank you, I will learn and do it in another video
Ive always heard that you cut the baking soda with charcoal (graphite) and apply in thin layers with the glue. Ive used this technique to mend broken plastic in laptops where the hinge for the screen tightened and broke the plastic mounts. Works amazingly well
Charcoal is not graphite. They are different allotropes of carbon. (You can get graphite from a pencil... and, yes, it's not the wooden part.)
What proportions do you use? How long does the repair last?
I don't see graphite and charcoal as being the same product.
You hook from the right, and then from the left, and back and forth not an even comparison, along with uneven weighted amounts of substances ..details make all the difference
Nice basic comparison, good enough for a clear winner. 😊
Easy to pick baking soda for price/performance and it’s easy to find.
Thanks for the demonstration.
Excelente forma de pruebas
Probé con plástico roto. El bicarbonato se comporta muy bien.
Esperar más tiempo para mejorar la reacción y el endurecimiento
Repeat the tests, but this time paying more attention to precise equal amounts in gr. or mg.., plus ensuring the same distance point where pulling force is applied. Then we see if same results. Great first attempt nonetheless - thanks!
Good effort. Results can be skewed by so many factors mentioned in the other comments as to question the results - which i dont understand. Which is top 1, top 2, etc?
should have added saw dust also in the test items cos saw dust also makes up a very strong bonding. Do try saw dust in your next experimet
I uses saw dust to strengthen joints on RC aircraft, it will break somewhere else than where sawdust was used.
The tests are not accurate in multiple ways:
1- The Grain size of charcoal does not match with the cement & baking soda!
2- The Gaps between the different test objects do not match (they are different)!
3- The distances of the applied forces to the glued joints are different!
Very nice (but not accurate) test, gave a hint of where and when to use what. Would be nice to se a test of glueing two diffenet materials together (i.e. wood to metal, plastic to metal, etc.)
Thank you, I will make another video that is more accurate and better ❤️❤️
I only can say thanks ❤️
I'm very happy when it's helpful.
I really like your curiosity. The comments from your participants are highly reasoned and generally relevant to better execution of tests. MERCI
PS.... can we have your email address to suggest a DIY and include a photo of the details ?
The momentum on the base of the screw is determined by the Pulling force multiplied by the length of the arm. And the arm is the hight of the mountingpoint of the hook. The higher the hook, the greater the momentum at te base of the screw.
I read in a similar video that the strongest combination for super glue is baking soda. Apparently this combination was so strong, it was used for holding together parts of the wing on old war planes. When you mix super glue and baking soda, it accelerates the curing process. Chemically, the bicarbonate molecules in baking soda react with cyanoacrylate to create a reactive ion that more easily bonds with other cyanoacrylate molecules...so yes, your experiment result was accurate👍
Thanks for the info, very useful.
The best test,,thank you very much.
Plesae try again by placing the spring balance a measured fixed distance from the repair. Lever effect has a massive effect on the reading.
I like working
I appreciate the test but another flaw, with considerable impact on the results, is the distance you placed the strength meter hook from the glued portion. You should have measured the distance to be sure there was consistant leverage applied.
Excellente vidéo, j'ai moi même fais l'expérience avec de la limaille de fer très fine et le résultat très bon pour faire du comblage de manque
sur des pièces de petites mécaniques.
The leverage is always different. You cannot compare the results. would be curious if using only superglue would be better.
Great video. Thanks for taking the time.
Cool test! I know that luthiers use superglue and baking soda to repair bone and plastic on stringed instruments
also do you know much about leverage and moments? You need to precisely apply force at same distance spot otherwise closer or further away will drastically change values.
Great job! Now I know which to use. Just a sudden thought, how about graphite from pencils?
Yes, I will try it. thank you!
Valiosos experimentos gracias
One thing I noticed on the two pieces of metal bars adhered together that may have been better. If you would have flipped the mounded piles of the powder on to face away from you when pulling it would have better judged the strength. Unless you were judging solely where it contacted the 90 degree face between the metal bars. It would be like using tape and expecting it to hold up with only tape on one side and pulling with the tape facing you. If that makes any sense lol. I know these arent scientific, and I really enjoy them! Or maybe flipped the bars and put the powder on both sides, which is what you would probably do in the real world assuming you could. Cool videos! Subbed
Molto interessante, come ogni altra puntata che hai proposto.
Anch'io sto diventando un appassionato della supercolla.
Ieri sera ho stratificato dei fogliolini di carta igienica, che dare spessore ad un incastro che non era più stabile.
Ottimo risultato.
Sono anni che uso la supercolla, ma finché non ho visto i tuoi video, in modo del tutto sbagliato.
Grazie e Buon Natale.
Graciasss😊
I have been burning my eyes and gluing my fingers together with cyano and baking soda for 45 years. Sometimes I would lick the joining surface too. That helps also. Once or thrice I managed to glue a stick to my tongue. No joke.
Joe, it's you? No joke?
When you went to the hospital did the doctor say "stick your tongue out"?
I usually use powdered coffee since it reacts nicely with the glue and is easily available at home
Omg the complaints… and most people didn’t learn the important results, there are many options for adding material that can help a project. I use baking soda and it acts as a catalyst. Do the others instantly react too?
Placing the hook in different positions, and anchoring the wood in the vice at varying distances from the joint, meant a totally different amount of leverage and stress in every condition. Sometimes a high torsion force was applied, and other times it was more of a shear force than torsion. This means we can't learn much from the tests.
I have a fog light panel cover that was destroyed and it broke the brackets holding it into the bumper so the only thing holding it in place now is super glue and baking soda and it has been 6 months now and it has not moved yet..I only put it in the two places where the bracket was so I will testify that baking soda and super glue works miracles..
interesante experiencia. Creo que sería mejor posicionando el instrumento de medida siempre a la misma distancia del punto de adeshión.
can u summarize which combo to se for best results on which materials joined?
i use graphite powder and baking soda sometimes but i see there is not so much difference each other so i can mix graphite powder and baking soda no problem.
Thank you for sharing your experiment, friend.
Which glue or bond you have use to fix the joint
The closer you pull to the connection the harder it gets. The further it becomes easier. Leverage.
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To be more precise, you would have to exert the force at the same point on each lever, that is, at the same distance from the base to the point where the force is exerted.
You need to use a specific point of stress at the test objects. The amount of force exerted to the glued part will differ greatly depending on where you pull it (near or far away from the glued part).
For proper analysis and comparison you should have a plain cyanoacrilate glue (without aditives)
Complimenti.bravo.utile e chiaro
im team styrofoam. What you should do is take a cup of acetone and continuously add strips of left over styrofoam from packages and amazon deliveries until you have a thick gooey clear mixture. you can store it in a Mason like jar and keep it like a glue. It dries solid
works Styrodur as good as Styrofoam or even better? Do you have any expirienz?
Thanks for your Videos. I will use the Ideas for Plastik Cover repear of mei motorcycle.
so the weaner is nail
This is great. Thank you. I subscribed and liked. Look forward to more.
Thank you, Have a nice day :)
Thank you for this test.👍
Welcome!
感謝你做這個實驗！個人有一些疑問想詢問你？問題一：請問木炭是市面販售木炭再加工成為木炭粉末？還是直接使用雷射印表機的補充碳粉（不是碳粉匣）是指充填碳粉匣的外售補充碳粉？問題二：我在我車子後車燈殼破裂時使用小蘇打粉加膠水，因為操作不慎導致後來粉末汙染燈殼內部，於是靈機一動（原本單純遮蓋使用）使用3M透氣紙膠帶（醫療用）加上瞬間膠水，感覺強度比單純小蘇打粉末加上膠水強，也比較好施工！
這實驗差距太小 變數極多 沒有意義
光是你怎麼固定與拉動的螺絲力矩 每次測都是差距極大
Excellent video ❤. Cheers from Australia
Спасибо
In my experience, it doesn't matter what you use as long as super glue sticks to it but the more fine grained it is, the better the result. If have fine grained plastic powder and it works very well.
Great experiment
Thanks for doing it!!
Great comments , I agree with all of them.
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I'm very hapy to read your comment. thank you
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Well that was a waste of time. Get to the end of the video to see the result and a next video suggestion pops up over it. So no way to get the final result
Good Idea
Thank you, Merry Christmas 🎄🎄🎅
If you're going for my accurate results you should of placed the force gauge at the same point as all of them so they all would have the same leverage. Some of the tests u were closer to the center where the glue was and that is less leverage than being further out to the end so I would take a lot of these results with a grain of salt as the numbers wouldn't be as accurate as they should be
Nice
But needed more accurate , repeatable location of pulling point / turning moment
Ft-lbs Torque is going to be different if you pull on your glued pieces at different points. It's the same concept of loosening wheel nuts and using a cheater bar. The farther away you can pull, the more leverage you'll get. All pulls need to be done from the same spot or you aren't measuring the same thing. Cut all pieces to same length, and then measure & mark the spot you're going to pull from so that spot is the same on each piece. Pulling an inch to the left on one test and inch to the right on another test for a quick camera audience might appear as being similar enough, but it's a pretty noticeable difference in pull force required that you're introducing unknowingly.
That charcoal should probably be dust or at least closer to it.
When you were setting up at 5:31, I'm sure half the audience was looking at the discrepancy in the distance apart your wood pieces were with the cement test being visually very obviously different than any of the others. All tests need to be pretty systematic. As same as possible.
The music, I was expecting Austin Powers to enter the scene dancing the Frug.
Baking soda.
When I add cyanoacrylate to baking soda, steam comes off.
Try with graphite.
Everyone has a pencil at home, turn the lead into powder,I'm sure you'll find that it makes just as strong bond if not stronger than most of the ones shown on video.
A dubious test for ignoring the concept of Torque.