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- In this video I just wanted to warn you about my experience with the Evolution SAW380 old version.
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I own the newer version/model of the saw you had. I have had zero issues with it and have cut a bunch of mild steel using a single blade. It has saved me money vs the fiber blades and the cut quality is 100 times better. I do believe the vise on my model is better than the one on yours. It locks the material down tight. I spoke with Evolution directly before purchasing my saw and they were very helpfully. Not only did they answer my question, but they also provided clear instructions on how to use the saw. The following are few things I learned from them. 1. The blade needs to match the thickness range and type of the material being cut. 2. The blade should be in contact with the least amount of material as possible, which is also true for a band saw. 3. The position of were the blade touches the material. Not sure if your saw allowed you to move the fence forward or backwards, but the model I have does. So based on the size and shape of the material, I move the fence to ensure the blade makes proper contact with the material. 4. Avoid trim cuts as much as possible, the owner's manual gives a minimum length of material that should be beyond the saw blade on the opposite side of the vise. I typical have at least 1/2" material past the edge of the frame. I'm not paid by Evolution nor was I given any discounts/freebees for the saw or blades I have. I would highly recommend reaching out to Evolution, they actually answer the phone and have real knowledge/technical support for their products. Sorry for the bad experience with your saw.
Thanks for sharing this information 😁 I did like the cut the blades are great. Just wish I purchased the newer version. Thanks for watching 😁👍🚜💨🍳
With angle clamped in that manner the stock pulling loose in the saw will happen. This would have happened even with a band saw. A better way to grab the angle would be with one leg flat against the non moving jaw and the other laying on the bottom of the vice. This is really not the saw's fault. You effectively were trying to clamp a spring, and when the teeth touched the center high point of the angle it compressed the side near the movable jaw and also pulled up on the side by the moving jaw. Because the angle was already at its widest point when pivoting about the part touching the stationary jaw the stock essentially became smaller in the jaws and there was no more force to hold the stock in place.
I have done exactly what you show many times, and usually got this result as a reminder not to do that again. I have found it helpful to think of a way to put stock in the vice so that the blade is trying to force it into the vice more, rather than pull it out. Round stock is also a hard one to deal with.
I enjoy your videos and hope to see more! Not trying to be a troll just sharing my own learning experiences from messing up stock / blades / cutters.
I understand what you are saying I normally don’t clamp angle like this but from what I have seen and reading some of the directions it sounds like the saw is not made to cut flat bar clamped flat so I went against what I normally do and put it in the vise like that. Maybe I could have put it vertical in the clamp. Thanks for pointing that out I appreciate you explaining what you mean. Have a great weekend 😁👍🚜💨🍳
I have had that exact thing happen, but somehow the teeth survived! Close call.
I use the upside-down "V" to cut angle in the band saw all the time. But the band saw clamp is rock solid. I have the EVO cross-slide miter saw, and when cutting angle in that, I clamp the piece in "L" position, cut the vertical of the "L" first, then push through the horizontal to finish the cut. Flats should be cut clamped in the vertical position, as well, per their instructions....but those are the instructions for the miter saw.
Note: the miter saw is very nice when making square or rectangular frames using angle steel, the 45° corners look great.
I feel your pain, the blades are expensive!
Better luck next time!!
Yeah I normally clamp 🗜️ angle in the “L” position too but the instructions say not to cut on the horizontal like you mentioned. I went back to my portable bandsaw for now got my eyes on a HVBS-710SG from JET but it will be awhile before I can afford it 😂 Thanks for the comment Have a great day 😁👍🚜💨🍳
Mitch glad you didn’t get hurt. We all try to save a buck but since you say you want to make repetitive cuts I might suggest a Freud brand blade, yes you’re gonna spend more but I feel it was last a lot longer for you. Regardless of what blade you get if you’re holding device won’t hold material firm regardless of what type blade you install you’ll have the same problem. Be safe 👍TCT
Thanks Tony😁I will check out the Freud brand blades. Home Depot did take it back but if I get a different model and try a different blade maybe that will be the ticket 🎫. Thanks for checking out the video. Have a great weekend. 😁👍🚜💨🍳
The orange blade has something very distinctive as it got some kind of rakers for depth of cut, thus avoid grabbing the material hard. I don't have ANY experience with such saw and blade, just based on observations. I once was on the edge of purchasing this saw and the cost of the blades turned me down. Not even knowing this could change suddenly the cost of usage! To this day, I still use the fixed bandsaw and very satisfied of it. Just need to plan ahead the cuts, as it takes some time. If I am thinking It's way too long, then I remember my planning was not right either... Thanks!
Hi Joe I appreciate your insight and your right. I am looking at Grizzly bandsaws the swivel type now if you have a brand and type you would recommend I would really appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction. Thanks for checking out the video and have a great weekend.😁👍🚜💨🍳
@@MJADoingStuff I currently have a model similar to the Grizzly G0926. I should have paid double to get the swivel model like the Grizzly G9742. Two main benefits for that, it has the cylinder to set the speed at which the head goes down. Good in small thin metals, like the angle iron you had to cut. Then the swivel is obviously great too!. You still can cut the angle with the base model, but you have to set both sides of the anvil to the right angle. And for long stock, move either the saw itself or the supports for it. We have the same models here in Canada, sold as King Canada. By looking at the casting of the frame, they probably come from the same factory in China! Thanks!
I have used cold cut saws regularly since 1995. It isn't uncommon to grab thinner metal and do what happened to you. You want to use finer tooth blades for thinner metal to have a proper amount of tooth contact with piece being cut. Cold cut saws that I have used are much heavier duty and aren't exactly like your saw but same rules would apply.
I appreciate you letting me know that cold cut saw are still worth looking at. Home Depot did take it back. So now I’m thinking a swivel bandsaw is in my future just going to take more time to save up. Have a good one 😁👍🚜💨🍳
That did not look good, I am pleased you were not hurt. When we were looking at these a while back we noticed that the blades appear to a have a non-standard centre hole meaning you have to buy Evolution blades. We bought a battery metal cutting circular saw instead from a different company
Thanks Joseph 😁 Yes I believe it is a 1 inch whole. At least Home Depot took it back and I am hoping to get a liquid cooled swivel type bandsaw instead but liquid cooled is kind of pricey so it might be a while. Thanks for leaving a comment and checking out the video😁👍🚜💨🍳
I've looked at this type of saw and have been shy to do so. Good review and warning Mitch! Stay warm!🌴☀️🇨🇦🇺🇸
I think they got a good product just not this one have a good week Mark😁👍🚜💨🍳
I hope HD will take it back, I’m glad you didn’t get hurt Mitch. Have a great weekend MJA 🙂🙋🏼♂️👍🏻
Hey, Luc😁 it all worked out Home Depot took it back so I got to 💩my pants for free😂Have a great weekend😁👍🚜💨🍳🙋🏻♂️
@@MJADoingStuff 💩 🤣🤣🤣🙋🏼♂️👍🏻
that is a constant issue with thin angle iron 1/8" - 3/16 are the worst. What happens is the angle Iron yields because it is thin and it has room to move. Then it pops out of the vice and that's all she wrote. Happens on Horizontal band saws too.
IT is such a problem that I won't put the stuff in my band saw. I'll just use my angle grinder and a cut of fwheel.
Thanks for letting me know I am thinking bandsaw is in my future Grizzly makes one with swivel base that I got my eye on. I normally don’t put angle in the vice like that but the manual said the blade would last longer if I don’t cut anything on the flat side.🤷🏻♂️ Thanks again for watching 😁👍🚜💨🍳
I have a Makita abrasive cut off saw. I have had that for years and am still on the original blade. I have 2 additional blades for it that just collect cobwebs and dust.
If Ido any upgrading on the future, it will be a bandsaw.
Sorry for your problems Mitch. It’s going to be interesting to how how this big box store handles this issue
Hey Gary😁 it all worked out. They have a 90 day policy and I returned it at 71 days.😂👍 I have been looking at the bandsaws from grizzly. I am hoping that is going to work out better thanks for checking out the video. Have a great weekend.😁👍🚜💨🍳
@@MJADoingStuff that’s great news Mitch
Wow. That sucks. Sorry to hear that, I love my Milwaukee bandsaw,.but we've broken a few of those blades, so I don't know if any company is making quality stuff all the time. Have a good weekend.
I have been using a deep cut porta band saw for years and I would only have to change the blade when it got dull and starts to cut crooked. Have you great weekend Ross😁👍🚜💨🍳
Thanks Mitch,
Knowledge is power.
Ben
Thanks Ben for checking out the video. I hope it saves someone from my frustration. Have a great weekend 😁👍🚜💨🍳
Wow I've not had that issue with the orange blade and have cut quite a bit of steel! That blue blade seems more like an aluminum cutting configuration.
Hey Derk 😁That would make more sense because it’s pretty aggressive. I try to go as slow as I could but it’s happened so fast. I think it bandsaw is in my future.😂 Thanks for leaving a comment and checking out the video.😁👍🚜💨🍳
That could have been dangerous Mitch. I bet that scared you. It scared me!! I am interested in how this gets resolved. Nice magnet! Cheers!
Hey Mike 😁 you got that right? I almost had to check myself.😂 Home Depot did take it back so it didn’t cost me anything for the experience. Thanks for checking out the video. Have a great weekend.😁👍🚜💨🍳
Thanks for the review. Glad you weren't injured!
Thanks for checking out the video I know it’s not the usual content, but I think people should know what they may be getting into have a great weekend.😁👍🚜💨🍳
@@MJADoingStuff This might turn out to be a popular video. I threw out a video about repairing my chest freezer. It is, by far, my most popular video.
@@twinbrookacres I hope you’re right. That would be great 😁👍
Lots of Junk out-there! Harbor Freight competition is causing a junk influx around here👍🏼🇺🇸
Yeah 😁 I am having trouble finding the right saw and lots of videos showing stuff they got for free. I guess I will just wait and see what happens. Thanks for checking out the video 😁👍🚜💨🍳
Now those regular cut-off saws doesn't sound so bad now, and blades are a hell of a lot cheaper, as well as much easier to find at pretty much every hardware store LOL. I've thought about getting one of those saws, but decided its much better to stick with the regular old abrasive cut-off wheel saws.
Yeah I watched a lot of videos about these saws and didn’t remember seeing them do what mine did. I feel it is important to share experiences like this. Thanks for checking out the video 😁👍🚜💨🍳
@@MJADoingStuff At least the blade didn't shatter, even those pieces of teeth are probably embedded in something around the shop...yikes.
WOW that could’ve really hurt. Glad to see they took it back. Hopefully you’ll have better luck with the new blade. Later.
Thanks Mech I think 🤔 a bigger bandsaw is my best bet. Thanks for checking out the video.😁👍🚜💨🍳
I would never never never never buy one of those types of saws. I have used wood power miter saws, and those are insane scary if you don't hold the wood tight. I can't imagine cutting steel on a saw of this type. And the NOISE is insane. No freaking thank you. Freaking keep it ! I will use my horizontal band saw or abrasive saw. These types of saws are NOT an option for me. -----Doozer
I agree 100% 😁👍 I wear ear protection when I used this saw and it was still loud. Thanks for checking out the video. Have a great week 😁👍🚜💨🍳
I had bought a chop saw and use the abrasive blade for cutting, really like how it is going and the clamping is good, I have noticed some issue maybe with straight cuts if I push hard due to deflection, but otherwise I appreciate the old tech, and that I can get the blades fairly cheap, and trusted tooling for a long time.
I agree I still use my abrasive saw outside and when I cut Springs thanks for checking out the video. Hope this was helpful. Have a great weekend.😁👍🚜💨🍳
Just glad you weren't injured
Thanks I am glad to report Home Depot returned it. And I got a new pair of 💩pants.😂👍 Have a great weekend.😁👍🚜💨🍳
Sent you some info on messenger Mitch . I have had a metal cutting liquid cooled blade bandsaw for 20 years now . Best safest investment I ever made . They hold there value also . Stay healthy 👍👍
Thanks 😁👍I will check over on messenger.
Woah! Safety squints required
🤣👍 very true statement I am still finding the pieces.😂👍🚜💨🍳
I use handheld bandsaws and floor model bandsaws and chop saws with abrasive blades. The big one takes a 22” blade and I’ve been thinking about jumping on one of these. Maybe I’ll wait a bit and research other brands. Good insightful video buddy !! Thank you.
No problem I think you’re right about the bandsaw. It’s a little slower but the bandsaw blade can last a long time. I’m hoping to get a swivel bandsaw from grizzly for the shop. Have a great weekend. Thanks for leaving a comment.😁👍🚜💨🍳
@@MJADoingStuff My big one is a Kalamazoo and probably from the 1930's or so. It takes a 10'6'' blade and has a 16'' throat. I drifts just a little in a big cut, but for the most part I can walk away from it and do other prep work.
@@tractorman4461 Wow that is cool to be able to walk away. That would speed up things for sure. 😁👍🚜💨🍳
Seems like a nice saw to me. No offense, but it looks more like you didn't properly clamp that angle iron, and it let go.
I normally don’t clamp it like that but the direction said it cuts better on edge than flat. Thanks for checking out the video 😁👍🚜💨🍳
~campfire chat. I have the cheaper one of that and have no issues but, you have a strong point! So, my blade is the orange one and it does have a few teeth caked with steel but I go real slow I did dump my Milwaki saw I got asthma and the dust was killing me. but anyway I am a home gamer and I got time to go slow you do not. just a though.
Thanks for leaving a comment and sharing your experience. I was trying to go slow to not wear out the blade but the instructions were saying to not clamp it the way I usually do so that could be a factor🤷🏻♂️Have a good one 😁👍🚜💨🍳
How's she goin'? This pretty much is a catastrophic failure. Not good eh!! The blade with the less aggressive teeth looks like it might be a better choice. Thanks for be honesty and sharing. Take care!!!
Hey Mike, Home Depot took it back. So I am thinking 🤔 about going with a grizzly bandsaw we will see. Have a great weekend😁👍🚜💨🍳
@@MJADoingStuff That would be a nice tool to have. That would be better than the circular type saw.
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Thanks We need all the help we can get😂👍 Have a great weekend.🚜💨🍳
Really glad you're okay! I can feel your frustration. You're no slouch when it comes to metal work either. Hope the company backs their product and it doesn't cost you any more money or headaches. Thanks for the heads up on that product 👍
Thanks Sam I appreciate it. I had no idea that it could do that. Everything is good Home Depot took it back. I have not contacted Evolution the company I am going to get a different type of saw in the future. Have a great weekend 😁👍🚜💨🍳
Did you have to change your pants when that metal went flying? Wow that was aggressive. That’s too bad about the saw. I hope they are able to work something out for you.
😂👍yeah Justin 💩my pants. Home Depot took it back. So I am looking 👀 for a different saw thinking about a swivel bandsaw but kinda pricey. Thanks for checking out the video 😁👍🚜💨🍳
@@MJADoingStuff yeah bandsaws are pricey but really nice. I'm sure you will find something you like.
we need to find you a good metal cutting band saw with coolant system 😁
That is what I think 🤔 will be my next investment for the shop. Now to find one that swivels and doesn’t cost a small fortune😂👍Have a great weekend 🚜💨🍳
Hi Mitch. Wow, quite the explosion you had there. So glad you were not hurt... Please keep us posted on how you make out with Home Depot.
If they are not helpful, I would also reach out to Evolution about the blade and vise. Good luck. Dan
Thanks Dan😁 I lucked out Home Depot took it back, looking at a different type of saw in the future for the shop. Thanks for checking out the video. I know it’s not my normal type of video but I think 🤔 people should know about something like this before they purchase it. I researched before I bought but I think the videos I watched are a little biased. Have a great weekend 😁👍🚜💨🍳
Always a bummer when something new doesn't work out like you hoped. Great points on the clamping mechanism...don't think I would have given that a great deal of consideration. Crappy experience but great video Mitch...lemonade out of lemons! 👍😉🍻
😂👍 you got that right lemonade. thanks for checking out the video Chris. Did you know Amazon sells pants too that scared the 💩 out of me!!!😂👍🚜💨🍳
@@MJADoingStuff I'm wearing a pair right now!
Hey Mitch, is it for mild steel only?
I believe that the blade is good for mild steel and aluminum but not hardened steel or stainless. Thanks for checking out the video 😁👍🚜💨🍳
@@MJADoingStuff I watch all your videos, I just do not comment a lot. I watch everyday for new ones.
@@TimeAfterTym Thanks Edward I appreciate it I wish I could make a video everyday. Thanks for checking out the video 😁👍🚜💨🍳
Sorry to hear this Mitch. I’ve seen mostly good reviews for the Evoltion, and most of the videos I’ve seen were the blue blade. Hopefully things work out for you.
Thanks Case 😁👍 I think I’m going to look into a bigger better saw for the shop I was just trying to find something cost effective. Have a great weekend 😁👍🚜💨🍳
Not good man
Nope it wasn’t 😁 but they took it back so I got to 💩myself for free!!! Thanks for checking out the video Larry 😂👍🚜💨🍳