22 SHIMANO Sahara Review. Finally Legalis LT Competition!
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Nice review. I always shim and upgrade to bearings on all reeels. I spend hours taking the play out of a reel and the end result is they perform and feel better. ☺️ I've made my Stradics almost feel like my Stella's.
Almost! You also need to file the gears to make them as smooth as the gears on the stella : )
Thank you for the review! I have two Legalis and an Exceler because of you. I've moved up to the Vanford now, but good to know this information. I often recommend the Legalis to people looking for a budget reel. Now I will also recommend the Sahara for bass fishing
How does the legalis compare to the Ninja?
I like the Shimano Reels. The Store I worked at sold many hundreds of them over the years, and I can't recall a single complaint!
Take note: When a daiwa fanatic switches opinion to Shimano
i tried legalis for carp once. Just once and returned them. Size 4000. But the 1000 size for ultralight fishing... you are not gona bend it with a crappie
@@ifishcatfish no. You won’t bend it with your crappies. Drumroll. Jking.
The new sahara is amazing just got mine and it’s buttery smooth gonna be great for some crappie and trout fishing 🔥
indeed
i learned a lot about reels in a very short time watching your content. very nice content and clear explanations
Thank u. Please check my jigs if u havent. Im very proud with them
Just bought this reel over the Sedona just prior to watching your video. Recently purchased the Vanford after watching your video. Win, win!
win win!
Well, I already bought legalis 6.2:1 for my bolognese float fishing 😊 great review! 🍻
just get this one too. You can't pick between these two
Another great review.
Love the rod and reel reviews.
I'm plannin on saving up to buy the new Sahara after seeing your review. The reel at my bass pro shops is selling for around 90 dollars and with the warranty and tax it will come to about 115, i've never had a really nice reel and I have been fishing for 2 years now. Thank you for all of the work you do for the fishing community.
dont buy the warranty. Just keep dirt out of the reel.these reels never break unless YOU actually break them
Great information! I drove out to Nebraska yesterday to get some crappie and perch with 2 St. Croix rods paired with a Vanford and a Ci4 each with 4 pound mono. After big smallmouths caused line twist, I picked up my backup combo, a Bass Pro rod and Mitchell reel. The sensitivity was not comparable at all, I’m replacing all my non-Shimano reels with the new Sahara.
the sahara is even smoother than the Vanford and the CI4+, because it doesn't have the oscillation worm.
@@ifishcatfish would you recommend changing the drag washers to carbon fiber on the new Sahara or leaving them felt?
for me, felt for everything freshwater. even carp and catfish. I prefer the smoothness and consistency of felt. Carbon is stronger but more jerky
But it doesnt have shitloads of bearing we dont need 🤷♂️
On a serious note awesome review as always Victor
Glad you did such a fine review! Looks like they did a fine upgrade. But holding out!
hi Dave
Hello...I can't wait until you review the new Diawa LT line...all of them are updated ....the sahara fj is very smooth...a steal
i see that but not available yet..
@@ifishcatfish keep an eye on the new shimano sensilite,, it comes in 8 feet. So many rods, so little time
i saw the video but is it available yet?
@@ifishcatfish yes , $54.99 Fish USA
I'll wait until u review it
Always close your bail by hand and that finish well last for many years.
I always do! Always!
Finally! Great review as always
New Sahara makes me think they basically retooled the old Nasci and sell it as the Sahara now. It’s great for us consumers.
Nasci and sahara have always been the same reel, at least for the last 10 years. Nasci is a sealed sahara.
Good job as always. I always watch your video before buying the reels and I was wondering something. Is Sahara 2500 fj good pair with 10-30g rod and pike/zander fishing with smaller jigs and spoons or should I go with the bigger one? Keep up the good work, I appreciate it!
small jigs and spoons is ok, under 10 gram... The fish is not a problem, even a big pike will be no problem. The problem is if u chuck heavy lures all day - the lures kill the reel, not the fish
Nice work!
Do you know the Difference between the Sahara FJ vs Nasci FC? The Nasci has one bearing more than the Nasci, but where is the bearing?
I set speed 1.25 for this video and it sounds more natural :D
did you leave a like?
Purchased the C2000S 3 weeks ago. It was perfect out of the box. Midway into today’s fishing session it suddenly developed a strong knocking feeling. Nothing to do with the line or spool. Any idea what the problem could be and how to resolve it?
no idea
I think the new Sahara Nasci Miravel platform looks really cool especially the nasci. I've been owning lower end Daiwa LT spinning reels for the past few years because Shimano has been way too heavy in that range. Now the margin is getting smaller so I might get a Sahara from Japan for cheap just to try! Thanks for the awesome video man!
Very helpful review as always! Good to see Shimano improving the Sahara so that it can compete with the Legalis -- the new handle really does look good. I noticed that the 1000 size is only 5 grams lighter at 205g but the 500 is down to 170g, which might work for some.
i've seen those, they are ridiculously small. Only good for ice fishing. Unless u enjoy fishing with curly line.
but if I use braided line, that wouldn't be an issue, right?@@ifishcatfish
@@Justin-zw1hx 500 size is only for ice fishing. Get it out of your head.
I just bought a Shimano Sahara FJ 2500 based on your review. I do already have Daiwa Legalis 4000 which is great smooth reel. The reason I went for the new Sahara is is the screw in handle and better looks in comparison to Daiwa Legalis. In my opion Shimano Sahara FJ and Daiwa Legalis offer the most bang for the buck for the average consumer.
yup. when u go higher in price all u gain is lower weight. Expensive reels don't feel smoother any more
@@ifishcatfish вы не правы. Vanquish, Luvias - гораздо более плавные катушки, чем fuego, Miravel и.т.д . Вопрос в том, что обычному потребителю это не нужно и излишне. Сбалансированный, приятный спиннинг сейчас действительно можно собрать в три раза дешевле, чем ещё 10 лет назад и разница будет не большой.
@@Din-Djarin I said smooth, not 'плавные'. Smooth is objective description and in terms of smoothness there is virtually no difference between these reels. When u use words like 'плавные' it is hard even argue about anything, because who knows what you mean by that. As a matter of fact, the heavier rotor of cheaper reels makes things even more 'плавные'. Do you know what flywheel in an engine is? They put a flywheel on the engine to make it 'плавные'. The heavier rotor of cheaper reels works a little bit like a flywheel. Therefore the disadvantage of cheaper reels is not smoothness or 'плавные', but it is inertia and resistance and weight. This is precisely why on sports cars they replace the steel flywheel with aluminum, to reduce the inertia.
I use the sahara for shad fishing no problems, tossing a 3/4oz weight all day, but when I hooked a 8lb salmon the reel felt bad it felt weak and felt like it can't handle it and just want to sit there, 2500 size. i also use old legalis for UL trout it performs good and kinda light, but after a few seasons can feel the wear clacks and loseness, still a good reel but can feel and hear the wear. also i just bought a vanford 2500 for $100 bucks feels better than the legalis haven't fished with it so not sure how it will perform.
@@user-oc5ry8pp1p Vanford for measly 100 bucks is a great deal. Wonderful reel just make sure your rod is at least as good.
Hi mate after your review i buy shimano sahara thanks.. next maintance for reel
Excellent video 👍
The DRAG! ? Why didn’t you click that drag just a little compared to the Legalis so we could hear the difference? Just do a follow up… great videos, always enjoy your attention to detail.
Concisely done as always. But you forgot to show the resistance of the reel and the sound of the drag, your speciality :)
the drag is the same as Ultegra and all other reels under $100 - no changes.
Resistance is super low. Hard to believe but feels lower than the brand new exist i just reviewed
Great review.I want recommendations on spinning reels for musky/pike fishing. I use lighter buckails, and swimbaits in 6 inch size.
@@andrewbilotta6735 2500 sahara in low gear ratio is the perfect reel for that. U don't need nothing more expensive, unless u have some crazy light rod and u want to balance
Thanks for answering. Iam curious if I use 8 foot mh rod, would you recommend 4000 or 5000?
Outstanding review as usual. The new Sahara is hands down better looking than the new blue Legalis. Fortunately I have 3 old Legalis. Thanks Victor.
Me too! I sold the blue one but kept 3 old ones. I don't use them but still haven't sold them.
Have u tried the Piscifun brand of reels? They seem to be making lots of noise in the spinning reel market. I love how you do ur reel reviews and am curious what you have to say about the Piscifun Carbon X.
Typical chinese reel. Does not compare to sahara or legalis
perfect review. thanks
Sedona fi reel good?tuning bearing 3+1-7+1 good
you are not tuning anything. also, by the time u buy all these bearings and put them, its better to just buy the sahara that has them already. And they are japanese bearings. And u will buy chinese crap from aliexpress.
Great review as always 👏
Interesting that on old nasci 2500 the handle had bushings and was serviceable.
Btw any opinion on new sahara/nasci in 500 size 170g?
no. except for ice fishing. But too small for ultralight fishing. You like will curl like a pigtail all the time.
Finally I can buy the sahara...because shimano brought back the anti reverse switch...I'm old school
its a great reel. even with the switch.
Nice review
I ordered new sahara from local fishing store to try it out. First reel had horrible freeplay in the screw-in handle, it was moving like 0.5cm and clunking when turning the handle. Returned it and ordered another one, it had no freeplay in the handle atleast when turning the reel. Spooled it up and went fishing and it had some weird behavior when reeling, it felt super smooth when starting retrieving and all of the sudden super draggy retvieving and then super smooth again. Some casts it feels smooth and no resistance at all and then second cast it had super hard resistance. Did not figure it out why it was doing that... I have sahara FI and it is super smooth and also my daiwa regal lt's.. Really loved the new sahara looks and great casting distance and great knob but i dont know if i had bad apple or what. Have you ever had that problem in any of your reels that it changes resistance middle of steady retrieving from smooth to draggy and smooth again?
sounds like you have some line problem thats creating resistance in some spots. This reel is extremely simple, just two wheels inside and nothing else. There is really nothing that can happen inside
@@ifishcatfish hmm.. interesting. I have spooled shimano kairiki 0.13mm braided line on the spool, havent tried it before this. I have power pro, spiderwire and sufix lines on my other reels without problems. I have to try power pro i have left on the side before i make decision what i will do with the reel. Thanks
@@ifishcatfish Just letting you know, it was the line. Thanks for the advice. 0.13mm power pro and no problems, smooth all the way. Never trying shimano braid again. Reel is 2500 size and went to one of my heavy perch/zander rod.
Nice review!! Do you believe Sahara 500 will be a good match for a UL rod for ajing, lets say MajorCraft 5G Aji-Do 622L? Also it will handle #0.3 ester properly?
no. 500 size is stupid. Only for ice fishing. Doesn't matter what reel. 500 size is always stupid.
Hello and thank you. Purchased mine Sahara 2022 size 1000 from Aliexpress and find that when I put impulse to spin the handle, the feeling is soft but it goes just for 4-5 complete turns freely. Got the same sahara 1000 size old 2017 version, and when do the same action with the same power, the thing turns freely the twice and more. Have you noticed some of this in yours? Do you got some idea of what can be happening here? Thank you in advance, and thank you for the wonderful content on your channel.
Too many things can be happening. Maybe dofferent grease. No way to tell without open
Best size for ultralight fishing?
1000
The black coating on those gears wear off, making the reel feel gritty.
eventually. But they will always be better than daiwa's cast gears because you can never get sharp teeth from a cast.
@@ifishcatfish That's true! What do you think though about shimanos cold forged aluminum gears compared to daiwas higher end machined aluminum?
@@Jedhaase they are practically identical. Both are amazing and far ahead from the rest of the world. When someone tells you shimano is much better than daiwa or daiwa is much better than shimano, you should see a red light that that person is a fool. I don't think a person can detect difference.
@@ifishcatfish the tips (major and minor dia.) don't make contact. I think you're feeling less variation with tooth shape and improved surface finish on the machined gears. The black may be for looks or some type of Moly Coating, that would be nice. Enjoy your reviews Sir.
I have a question for you since you really know spinning reels. Yesterday I had a big bass wrap me around a tree that was laying in the water. I had to unwrap the line with my reel going in the water for a second or two. Will this damage my reel? Should I open it up?
funny, my presso went in the water this weekend. I was texting on my phone and the trolling motor grabbed the line and pulled the rod in the water. The key is to immediately take it out of the water, and FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS, DON'T REEL when u pull it out! Just remove the spool and let it dry completely. Once it is completely dry, u can probably use it. If you reel while it is still wet, water can get around the main shaft or around the main gear shaft and then your bearings won't feel that smooth any more. Even if your reel has some seals, i wouldn't reel with a wet reel
old Shimano sahara fI frame vs legallis Lt frame flex? which one flexes more?
legalis
Mine is 2 months old and is already grinding, I think I will get Daiwa instead from now
Thats IMPOSSIBLE. This reel has better gears than any daiwa under 200$. I am here to argue against anybody. U sir are either lying or using 2000 size for catfishing or something stupid like that.
@i_fish I use size 2500 for trout fishing in DK, and why I will lie? I don't know if is the gear or some bearing, but something is up
@@cap2666 if you reel was defective out of the box, you should have returned it. U can't wear a 2500 size sahara with trout, i don't care what kind of trout you are catching.. these gears are the best gears under $200.
Have you seen/tried the Daiwa laguna? keen to hear how this fares against the Legalis
Actually forget that, i see they are different reels altogether
Heavier and missing important bearings
What about the Nasci Fc? The new 2021-22 model, are you gonna review it? 😊
I have an old review of the old sahara vs old nasci. If you watch it, you will understand why I don't need to review the Nasci. Its a Sahara.
How would you rate this Sahara FJ 1000 vs NASCI FC 1000 for UL setup?
its the same exact reel but with seals. I have review-comparison of the two reels
Looking to get a new ultralight reel. Casting small jigs n spoons for trout . What do you recommend?
for jigs, vanford or ultegra. Or vanquish, if u have money
@@ifishcatfish I went with the fuego LT 1000 …like you said get whichever is on sale I got 20% off plus no tax here in my local tackle shop 👍
Have you fished the newer miravel? Would it be a worth upgrade over this
its the same reel but in CI4 body. Just lighter. Nobody knows but YOU whether thats worth it : )
@@ifishcatfish miravel vs ultegra which one you buying
@@saleen12 i have a spinning reel buying guide from december this year. There are my recommendations at every price point.
I dont have a Sahara, but I just threw my Nasci 2500 in the garbage because of your opinions on the ugliness of the handle.
Sameer, just purchased a new rode combo and threw it away
Had to be done😝
@@ifishcatfish I believe so as well. Listening to you has made my standards a little bit higher. With all the great info and the realness.
I am collecting garbage today. Mark your bags with ugly handle, so it is easy to identify for me.
How does the Sahara function in the rain? Does it get increased inertia from water diluting the oil?
Sir which would you prefer this sahara 22 or daiwa fuego cs lt?
Sahara for freshwater, fuego for saltwater
I thought that the new sahara has silent drive locomotion like a level wind
i showed u the silent drive. Its that little rubber ring
Which one is the best on two???🙏
correct!
The only gripe I have with this reel is the weight, but that goes with the size of the reel czcams.com/users/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . I brought this salmon fishing up in Oswego, NY. I coupled it with a Cabela's Whuppin Stick. I had no problem pulling in a 14lb salmon. I will probably use this for surf fishing this summer and downgrade to a 3500 series Battle II next salmon season to save my wrists. All of the operations are butter smooth and the bail is nice and thick and has a solid flip to it. Everything about this reel is sturdy and strong. The drag system held up to the salmon and was also super smooth. I did use a scale to set the drag properly before going out to the river and this worked out tremendously. A bunch of other guys on the river would hook up and snap almost immediately. Just because you have a good drag system doesn't do anything if you don't set it correctly.
what did u buy?
Bought the sahara 1000 because of this video...i admit it that this reel is smoother compare to my old ceymar
hello Victor, thx for vide
please tell me is it sahara FI or FJ, I am not sure.. sorry i am begginer
Even i dont know. The handle is black. The old one has gold handle
@@ifishcatfish aa ok, it is FJ! :)
one more question, only one.. what do you mean about daiwa ninja?
i did not see a video about ninja, and a lot people say it is amayzing.. what is your opinion?
@@ivanvedris9636 we dont have that reel here and i am not familiar with it but i dont recommend it. I have a buying guide video for what reels i recomment at each price point
@@ifishcatfish OK thanks. I have watched a lot of your videos where you are very detailed and I like it. i think ninja is just a step below legalis, so i was interested in your opinion.
thanks for your time for me, I appreciate it :)
Is the Legalis LT full Carbon Body..?
It is full plastic body. No carbon. Maybe just a little carbon.
Sahara best❤
can upgrade line rolller with bearing?
not easy, as i said in video
Daiwa failed me in the past, stuck with shimano for now
Can i put a sahara 1000 spool to a 2000s sahara?
yes
@@ifishcatfish can you put a 2500 spoon on a 2000S sahara?
@@user-oc5ry8pp1p NO
🙋.🙋
daiwa top 🔥🔥🔥
what are the dimensions of the sahara drums? are they the same diameter as the LT series?
if you mean gears, probably a little smaller than the gears of Legalis
Sorry, the spool size in mm
I have a colmic lareo 3.9 and I want to use it in the match style. is size 3000 suitable? or is size 4000 necessary? thanks in advance
@@oviveres6031 those look the same but i haven't measured them
@@oviveres6031 3000 is good
the old sahara handle is just as stupid as the new fuego handle on the 2500 xh.. fast handle and replaced from a better handle on the old modells with a bearing.. there daiwa made something very stupid,, to replace a good handle with totally crap
The DRAG! ? Why didn’t you click that drag just a little compared to the Legalis so we could hear the difference? Just do a follow up… great videos, always enjoy your attention to detail.
There were no changes to the drag. Same as ultegra