YOUR perfect MINI Retro Handheld
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
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00:00 - YOUR perfect mini retro handheld?
00:21 - Build quality
03:01 - Controls
04:17 - Shake Test
05:23 - Screen analysis
07:55 - Weight comparisons (in grams)
08:24 - Feeling in hand
09:46 - Perceived build quality
10:05 - Audio
10:23 - A possible dealbreaker for some
10:36 - Battery Life
11:58 - Connectivity
12:55 - User Interface
14:25 - Custom firmware options
15:31 - It comes down to this... - Hry
I've been subbed for about a year since your video on the RG35XX, you've been one of the most underrated channels in retro handhelds for a while now, thanks for continuing to make great quality content!
Thank you so much!
He's coming up, just you wait.
These two devices inspired an accidentally great summary of the retro game industry when Wulff Den compared them. "This one feels bad, and this one runs bad, and why is custom firmware still necessary?" I'm looking forward to the day when someone finally makes a device with no major flaws.
It’s true about CFW but the thing is it’s kinda the thing that makes me enjoy all this. It’s an opportunity for devs to have a bit of fun
I feel the rattle test is of key importance. I want a handheld, not a box of matches
"Yo bro can I have some tic tacs" "Oh sorry that's just my RG28XX"
@KrazyShark hehe
Do you play your console as a maraca?
No problem for me, I always wanted to become a rattle snake🐍🪇sssszzzzz *chacachaca"
Unless you have shaking hand I don't think it's that important
Love the camera work buddy. Great job
Thank you the Fost!
Thanks for the video! Both of these look great 🍻
They do ☺️
I still have my metal *Ambernic RG280M.*
Only Onion OS on the Miyoo would tempt me now.
Do you have the gradient purple and blue? I wish Anbernic would do colors like that again.
@@jwill7998
No, the dark grey.
280m is still great.
More love for the A30! SWEET :)
I like MinUI as well but they have have to fix the audio crackle and pops, it really detracts from the quality of the firmware.
So in summary, neither hits the spot of providing the perfect retro pocket device. The anbernic feels closer if they sort the controls & suspend mode. Maybe next version will resolve these faults, but given what you've shown today, both are compromised and neither are a buy. Might as well use existing devices and wait. Thank you for this excellent review which has stopped me buying yet another retro handheld with compromises and disappointment
Hey man, I hoped that WOULDN’T be the takeaway from this video. For the price I think both of these are great, but as you said there are other devices: some commenters made great recommendations such as the RG280V, RG280M, RG300X. These are all still wonderful devices and play all the old systems. For me, design-wise the Miyoo A30 is a good option.
@@adinwalls for someone who is continuing to search for that elusive perfect pocket device, I've now got 6 handhelds all with their own positives but also drawbacks and shortcomings. Don't take my comments too negatively - you've done me a massive favour by providing such a detailed review that you've saved me splashing out on another device that's good but not quite great. And for that I thank you - another great video!
Having both for a while, I was in the minority for a long time calling out the Miyoo as the better of the 2. The rattle of the 28xx can't be dampened no matter what mod you perform, and it's an absolute deal breaker for something you want to carry around in your pocket. The feel of the 28xx is also hard in the hand in comparison, not sure why, maybe the plastic used, but it doesn't feel good for extended sessions. Glad the community is finally coming around to what I've been preaching.
Hehe. Yes I am leaning toward the A30 as my fav here
So get the anbernic?
I have both of these devices 😂. Initially I was more happy with her 28XX but now that Spruce is out for the A30 it has taken over as my favorite micro handheld. Awesome video, as always Adin!
Thanks for sharing
Oooo this b-roll!
😍
I want to arrange it that I have more backlit scenes for the broll
I’m with you on the rattle brother. The 28XX sounds like a container of tic-tacs in my pocket
🙄ya man
The RG28XX is such a nice device. It doesn’t pip my Miyoo Mini+ for my top spot, but it’s a Retro Dream, been playing Advance Wars II and it looks real nice. All the 8Bit & 16Bit stuff plays well, I’m using Knulli as an OS, but the stock OS is OK, it really is. I’m very happy with the screen brightness, and there is no bleed at low levels. I’ve adopted a glasses case as it’s sleeping bag :) one of the ones with the snap closure and it works well.
The sound isn’t great, and it rattles, but for the price it’s almost unbeatable.
Yes it does seem like both these handhelds have struck a chord with people.
Spruce OS was a complete gamechanger for the A30 and it is good that it still has a lower reputation because now you can buy it for 35 bucks or so. For such a great micro handheld, it really is the best deal right now. We might get Onion on the A30 eventually too.
Micro: OG MM with Onion/A30 with Spruce
Pocketable size: Anbernic 35XX-H/SP to use as a portable Pi.
Max bang for your buck? R36S
"Why is this so cheap?Might as well buy": Datafrog SF2000 and the vertical variant for less than 10 bucks with the SD rework and the improved OS.
Everything else I think it twice if I should buy that or a Steam Deck and is dependant on usecase.
Only thing hurting the value is that their micro sd cards are complete garbage, so you have to add on a bit there.
would have got the miyoo if it wasnt mono. i dont mind a mono speaker, but having mono via usb out is crazy
The RG28XX with minUi is amazing! There are now additional standalone emulators you can run (N64, PSP, DC, DS). They also just added NeoGeo
Cool! I’m going to get into firmware more this week.
I'm kind of glad I skipped both of these, though the 28XX is currently on sale for $40, and I'm tempted... but I really don't think I want or need it.
you need to get into retroarch and setup all the controllers buttons there, then it will work.
So i own a 28xx and i was debating if i should get the A30 like all week. This video helped me make my decision , im getting the 280v🤣
Haha awesome. Yes the RG280V actually has a pretty decent custom firmware: Adam Image.
the miyoo a30 has Spruce OS which is an upgraded ra30 and MuOS is being developed for it too
Yes a lot happened while I was filming!!!
Mr Walls, have a sub. Found you because of TechDweeb, stayed for the fun PCBWay skits, you should be their actual spokesman lol
Haha thanks! Oh how did you connect from MR TD? Anyway thank you for checking out the vid.
@@adinwalls It was the roundtable on his channel a few weeks back where I think I spotted you, been binging ever since! More please!! Usual story for me, almost 40yo guy tired of corpos and their constant dlc/microtransactions and making us re-buy games in perpetuity that we already bought back in the day lol. Been emulating on PC since the mid 2000s until finally discovering the handheld rabbithole. LOVING that there are companies out there using modern tech purposely to run the old stuff. All our old good games are back!! I love this hobby!!
The nano buttons of the RG28XX are a pure and simple NO WAY, even with better performance and battery. The A30 win in controls, aesthetics and sleep mode, adding a joystick and wifi. What else?
You speak truth 😊
Great review. I enjoy my 28xx but oh my..it rattles sooo bad
Hehe. Lots of other redeeming qualities though.
*in DJ Khaled’s voice* ANOTHER ONE! ☝🏽
These are both neato devices. But if you dislike sounding like you have a babies rattle in your pocket, I can full on recommend getting a rg353m. Love mine. It's a very tight device, with rattle almost non-existent.🙂that 2gb ram is sweet with PortMaster stuff too
Why are you running, jumping with a handheld in your pants? 🤔
Nice little handheld! My screen had a blue line going through it and they sent me a replacement screen. Had to open the thing up, unscrew the motherboard and everything to install it. My first “surgery”, made me pretty nervous 😂
Hehe hope it went okay. Enjoy the device otherwise?
@@adinwalls I think I put everything back in the right place, all the little buttons fell out when I opened it so that was fun finding them all on the floor 😂
Otherwise I’m enjoying it! Screen feels a bit small for some systems but great for GBC and GBA as well as a bit of N64 (especially my favorite, snowboard kids 2)
I’m also loving the battery life, using Knulli and it’s great
Yes the handheld systems are best for the smaller screens but I just love the idea of playing NES on a tiny screen.
Definitely something fun about the tiny screen, it’s just big enough to be usable, I don’t think I could go any smaller than that
I really wish these companies would make more of these handhelds with a 6-button layout to cater to Sega Genesis and Saturn. You can always remap it to 4-button. Oh well just my opinion
The thing is I don’t think the Anbernic Arc did very well, unfortunately.
@@adinwalls Sadly from I researched it did not even come with Saturn games, even an if they added an analog stick with the d-pad it would of been a great selling point. They missed a few key factors. I hope they did not give up on the 6-button
I think that the a30 should have used the same processor as the mini and plus so onion would have worked.
Oh I 100% agree. It would have immediately been able to use OnionOS and been the clear winner out the gate.
agreed with the rattle 100%,
Knulli is being worked on as well for the a30, so that will be great when that materializes.
I have both. Miyoo a30 is the clear winner after installing spruce os. It’s lighter, buttons feel like nes controller, triggers are easier to press. It’s good upto ps1. Wish it was little more powerful. But I’ll be keeping the miyoo a30.
Ah thanks for the comment.
If you install spruce os on the miyoo you need to install muOS on the anbernic.
@@feahnorl I have muos on the rg35xxh. It’s nice. The feel, the buttons and everything else besides power is better on a30.
@@ks1ngh27 I agree, but power is needed if you want shaders. Turn on shaders and the a30 is not good enough.
For these devices, rather use filters, not shaders.
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Ah thanks so much
I was thinking about how awesome Adin videos are and then when I enter CZcams, bam! A new video has come out.
Haha thanks man
Mini devices won me over. I thought I'd be bothered with small screens, but no! A well designed mini device makes the screen feel good. I'm even playing it at home, which was not my initial intention.
The A30 is my current favorite device. It's well designed, which makes it disappear when you're playing, so that you can focus on your retro game.
It's also comfortable for the size, the build quality is good, and the controls are great. A bit of false diagonals, it's true, but I can roll the d-pad and play games with a lot of precision. I guess I got used to it.
I'm actually beating my own arcade records with it in games like Metal Slug 1 and Blazing Star.
I disagree about the shoulder buttons. I love them! It's a breath of fresh air seeing silent shoulder buttons on such a cheap device. Overall we should avoid using shoulder buttons on mini devices because they're not comfortable to use no matter how well designed the device is.
Okay! Well thanks for that feedback.
Installing muOS on the 28 would fix all the problems he was having 🤷♂️
Correct but this was a review of the stock experience.
@@adinwalls and it was a great Stock OS review!! I’m just a muOS fanboy 😉
@NicHasegawa video on the way…
But does it do THIS?! [puts it in mouth like some kind of barbarian]
Ah man that’s what I should have done! …next time…
They are each half what the other is missing. If these companies could just team up for a try, I wonder what we'd end up getting.
Hehe true
Your diffently a lefty ! Your folding pocket knife says so. Lol
Thanks for the information. I think the miyoo is more sexy. Somebody released barley for the miyoo firmware. Cheers
Barley? Is that a thing? I’m actually right handed 😀
My bad Spruce os
Bra ! your frame lock knive is tip down, with pocket clip on the lock side. You'll never be able to reverse flick the the stud. If may ask which one that from
@matthewjefferis9451 yes you can’t reverse flick this one. It’s actually a bit tricky to open. It’s a Kersher knife.
Hot take: The RG300X is the best pocketable device.
That IS a good point!
If the A30 gets Onion again is that going to be a game changer
Agreed
No earphone jack, major red flag
Yes it can be an issue, I almost never use headphones with these, but if that’s something you do it’s a problem.
Do you have headphone jack on your phone?
@@suhtangwong Yes. Why?
Do you constantly shake your handhelds? I didn't know that was a thing.
Yes, that’s all I do all day because I have almost 20 of them!
@@adinwalls I get what you're saying about the rattle but if I'm paying under $100 or even $50 or less on a handheld like the A30 or the RG28XX then I'm not expecting the same quality as a handheld I paid $200 or more for, so the rattle doesn't bother me.
Hey man if Powkiddy can do better in this regard at a lower price I expect Anbernic to do the same. I agree, these cheaper devices it’s not as big an issue, but I will always point it out because on any other piece of tech it would be an issue.
I hate to say it but I'm team RG 28XX. Miyoo dropped the ball in this one young lad. We'll see how they make out with their next unit. Thanks lad. Great stuff.
I don’t know man. I am enjoying the A30 more personally.
@@adinwalls It worked out for you lad but as I recall, Joey didn't have the same experience man. Let me ask you this, why should it be that a distributor has to "work" on a unit just so they can say that their customer base is having a good time with the unit? And, of course, I realized, as I typed my question, that Anbernic does the same bloody thing, at least with the Linux based units; cutting the unit loose on the public with half-baked software. Nevermind man, nevermind. BTW, you doing the Cube or giving it a miss lad?
@STR82DVD well there’s the thing, they’ve all been sending out half baked software from the start. Funny enough, Powkiddy has been doing well in this department. And yes, I’m definitely keen to take a look at the cube.
@@adinwalls My cube just shipped. Powkiddy. Usually, that's all I need say but your right young lad, Powkiddy seems to have upped their game as of late. And yet.... The craptastic X70 is still available for pickup on Amazon. Lordy.
I am not a fan of uber small screens. Anything less than 3.5 inch screen is a pass for me. Thanks for the video though.
Same here, big fan of MM+ but i pass on this A30.
No analogue stick doesn't interest me.
That’s what’s great about all these, there’s something for everyone.
Kinda same, but miyoo is underpowered
I love your videos, but this time I definitely disagree. I have both devices here and the battery life, the stock firmware, the build quality and the performance are a lot better on the Anbernic. The Dpad and display are also slightly better on the Anbernic, only the face buttons really are too small.
I guess it depends what your focus is on what you’re looking for with all those things
Too small. Too big a trade off for portability. A PASS
Fair enough
Glad the A30 got the screen brightness fixed. I've always despised Anbernic's firm, hard to press controls (Miyoo Flip soon please 🥲) and the buttons seem so small so I went with the A30. Really excited to try it out with Spruce. The dev seems super active on it as of now cause they already made a 1.1.5 version yesterday. Really love that white / purple colored 28XX though, love that design :) Stellar comparison, thanks Adin ✌
Yes Spruce and another one popped up while I was making this!
@@adinwalls Oh by the way just a small question. When did you buy your A30 ? I saw RGC's vid yesterday and he mentionned his new A30 that arrived didn't have that sensitive / loose D-Pad issue so maybe they made a silent revision after seeing the complaints or their manufacturing is inconsistent 😅🤣 Like my RG35XXSP came with tiny damping pads on a few controls while they're non-existent for other people so yeah. I mean for 30$ for such a tiny emulator powerhouse it's still amazing. And will you also cover the Powkiddy V10 ? Cheers :))