Great video -- i just discovered you today and just subscribed. I taught orchestration in a university music department (just retired 3 years ago), and I love what you have to say. For me, one of the best features of Dorico is Lock Duration: when several instruments have identical rhythms, you can perfect one part with all its dynamics and articulations, copy it into all the instruments that will be rhythmically identical, turn on Lock Duration, and then go through each line changing only pitches -- everything else stays as you wrote it.
Hey Ryan. Recent subscriber here - love the channel! Sounds like I switched to Dorico from Sibelius around the same time as you - it's really, really great. Related to your tip about exploding chords, did you know that Dorico can do that instantly on note input across multiple staves? Say you have 4 horn staves and a 4-note chord to apply, select the top stave, go into note input mode then shift and the down arrow. You'll see the note input icon spread across the selected staves. Play your four note chord, it goes straight in, one note per stave, high to low! It's awesome.....!
I don't think about entering rests. I just advance the caret along the grid with the cursor-right key. The helpful thing to know about the grid is you can change its grain with a combo selection at the lower left of the workspace.
Yea I love the idea of using Dorico on iPad but I almost never use it for some reason. I guess because I work at home, so if I have access to a wide monitor and keyboard I might as well use those! Maybe I need to get out of the house more?
Thanks Ryan. I am a user of Dorico 4 pro with NotePerformer, and Cubase 11 pro. I really think that Steinberg should add Dorico's features as a score editor to Cubase, and it would be a real bombshell. Because in the end, Dorico is a very good score editor but an incomplete sequencer, and Cubase is a very good sequencer but a bad score editor. I don't understand why they don't work in that line, nor do I know if it is possible and/or commercially profitable. Your tutorials as always, chapeau !!!!
Another option for your piano sketch / orchestration is to use multiple layouts: piano sketch only; sketch + orchestration; orchestration only. Set them up in multiple tabs and it’s easy to switch between them. You can do something similar to hear only certain groups if you want. Regarding entering rests: the Dorico party line is, “you don’t enter rests. You enter music, and Dorico figures out where the rests go.”
Another option for exploding chord is: filter top note, then move to staff above/below. I'm not sure if there's a shortcut assigned to it, but it's very fast when doing midi orchestration. That way you know the music is in the correct spot in those sessions that have 30+ instruments.
The implode notes feature is quite useful when creating a piano vocal short score for choral works. The choir master will need that to rehearse with the choir.
Thanks for doing these videos on Dorico Ryan! So many people move from Sibelius to Dorico now, and your videos will be (and already are) very very useful for so many. Thanks /E
Great video, Ryan. I wonder which oi both software is better for you? Sibelius looks likes to be more friendly to learn than Dorico (at least 3.5). Specially in page formatting in engrave mode, Dorico looks to me very "obscure". What do you think about it?
In my opinion the caret behavior actually makes more sense then "inputting rests" but I can understand why this is complicated for people that works with other softwares longer.
I’ve never used input rests actually. I usually use the arrow keys to advance to the next beat I want to enter a note. I also love moving notes around with the shortcut keys in terms of their placement in a bar and then often extending or shortening their duration. It’s one of the key features in Dorico that I dearly miss if I’m working in MuseScore which is also nice but rather clunky compared to Dorico IMHO
Just moved to Dorico from Finale after, what... 27 years, at least. I just couldn't take it any more with Finale's convoluted menus, unstable nature and crappy sound playback. Finale is a fantastic, forward-thinking, powerful notation program... for the 1990s. I don't have any creative tips to offer for Dorico at this point... I'm still learning my way around. Only to say that in general things are so much more intuitive and easy than they were in Finale. I'm now trying to figure out page layouts and getting scores and parts looking session-level good. I'm finding that a bit challenging currently.
In Dorico 99% of the time you don't really enter rests. They are just created when there isn't anything there. Also how far the carrot moves is controlled by the rhythmic grid which is set under the "write" drop down menu at the top.
With the space bar the caret actually moves by whatever rhythmic value you have selected in the toolbar, not by the grid. The arrow keys move it along the grid.
It takes a while to get used to rests in Dorico -- they are just the absence of notes. For me it's faster -- use the space bar or the right arrow, depending on the length of the rest. Sometimes I use the mouse to move to another place, if it's far enough away.
@@RyanLeach Correct, but that's not entering rests. You're just skipping duration and then the rests appear when you add another note down the line. The only time I really ever explicitly enter a rest is when I have multiple voices on one staff but the bottom one doesn't play for a measure. I then need to enter that voice, Shift-B, and type rest, which enters a bar rest.
Friendly suggestion. Please try these videos with little or no background music. For a brain like mine, the music makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. I was always that student who could not listen to music while doing homework. :)
In my experience NotePerformer functions exactly the same on both. With Dorico 4 I'd say it's miles ahead for using sample libraries because there's now a piano roll and you can edit MIDI information alongside your score. However I still prefer to export the MIDI after I'm done writing and do my mockups in Logic.
Hello, Do you know if you can use your DAW and Dorico 5 together so they sync and record regions in your DAW and on Dorico Pro 5 simultaneously or do you have to import midi files into Dorico Pro 5 all day as you go along?
There is no sync like you are suggesting, although wouldn't go back and forth all day long but instead do the sketch and composition and Dorico and the production in Logic
@@RyanLeach Hi Ryan, I hope you are doing well today. I am talking about rewire: everyone has been provided rewire for a long years. The instruments do exist in Logic as far as vsl is concerned and also in Dorico but the sound stage in Dorico 5 does not exist in Logic. Dorico also has instruments and other steinberg instruments; so it would be better to bounce from Dorico 5 if it does: otherwise it would make no sense at all to have your sound stage like you have in Dorico if it's only for notation. Therefore it would sound better if it was possible for Dorico to play in the groove - But if I am to do the sketch in Dorico then I would have to import back into Logic - But the composition in Dorico would go way beyond the sketch.
@@dynamicalan Personally I don't use the VSTs in Dorico at all, I just use NotePerformer. I completely separate the processes though, so I do not go into Logic to produce until the composition is done. But your line "in the groove" might be the main thing - if it's something groove or synth based I'll probably just do the entire thing in Logic. I use Dorico for pieces that lend themselves more to notation, like an orchestral track rather than a trailer cue
@@RyanLeach No that's not what I meant - It's singers don't really sing metric notation programs tend to sound like they are playing from note to note instead of playing, for example on the and of 2 (2&) that's how one section felt while listening to one of the videos - Rewire might be outdated but I did notice Cubase running in the background in one of the videos so the audio files will play with the project. I will have to find that again. Thank You
Great video -- i just discovered you today and just subscribed. I taught orchestration in a university music department (just retired 3 years ago), and I love what you have to say. For me, one of the best features of Dorico is Lock Duration: when several instruments have identical rhythms, you can perfect one part with all its dynamics and articulations, copy it into all the instruments that will be rhythmically identical, turn on Lock Duration, and then go through each line changing only pitches -- everything else stays as you wrote it.
SUPER HELPFUL!!! Thank you!!!!
Hey Ryan. Recent subscriber here - love the channel! Sounds like I switched to Dorico from Sibelius around the same time as you - it's really, really great. Related to your tip about exploding chords, did you know that Dorico can do that instantly on note input across multiple staves? Say you have 4 horn staves and a 4-note chord to apply, select the top stave, go into note input mode then shift and the down arrow. You'll see the note input icon spread across the selected staves. Play your four note chord, it goes straight in, one note per stave, high to low! It's awesome.....!
Nice thanks for the tip!
I don't think about entering rests. I just advance the caret along the grid with the cursor-right key. The helpful thing to know about the grid is you can change its grain with a combo selection at the lower left of the workspace.
Great tips, especially #1 Thanks very much. (love Dorico 4 and NotePerformer. Just need NP for the iPad now!)
Yea I love the idea of using Dorico on iPad but I almost never use it for some reason. I guess because I work at home, so if I have access to a wide monitor and keyboard I might as well use those! Maybe I need to get out of the house more?
Thanks Ryan. I am a user of Dorico 4 pro with NotePerformer, and Cubase 11 pro. I really think that Steinberg should add Dorico's features as a score editor to Cubase, and it would be a real bombshell. Because in the end, Dorico is a very good score editor but an incomplete sequencer, and Cubase is a very good sequencer but a bad score editor. I don't understand why they don't work in that line, nor do I know if it is possible and/or commercially profitable. Your tutorials as always, chapeau !!!!
I think, they work on this idea..
Completely agree with you, I say this from years…
Great video. Your 4th tip is a game changer for me. I've been doing with the comma and it's always been a pain. Thanks much!!
Another option for your piano sketch / orchestration is to use multiple layouts: piano sketch only; sketch + orchestration; orchestration only. Set them up in multiple tabs and it’s easy to switch between them. You can do something similar to hear only certain groups if you want.
Regarding entering rests: the Dorico party line is, “you don’t enter rests. You enter music, and Dorico figures out where the rests go.”
I just started with Dorico. This was extremely helpful because I was already struggling with all these things. Thanks.
Hot dang, that space bar tip is GOLD! I'm only recently switched from Sibelius but entering rests has already been driving me batty.
Love it! Definitely gives some ideas when using the software next.
The rest entry is a great tip. It took me forever to do a mockup of 4'33!
Hi Ryan, thanks for the tips. Gladly more ;) I didn't know the one with the linking yet
Thank you for these tips :)
Thank link feature is a game changer!! I had no idea
Just started using Dorico and this was super helpful!!!
Well that just changed a lot in my work flow! Wow!
Excellent tips! Thank you!
Awesome tips Ryan, thanks a lot - will use them all :)
Another option for exploding chord is: filter top note, then move to staff above/below. I'm not sure if there's a shortcut assigned to it, but it's very fast when doing midi orchestration. That way you know the music is in the correct spot in those sessions that have 30+ instruments.
Great video, the user tips are amazing too.
The implode notes feature is quite useful when creating a piano vocal short score for choral works. The choir master will need that to rehearse with the choir.
Thanks for doing these videos on Dorico Ryan! So many people move from Sibelius to Dorico now, and your videos will be (and already are) very very useful for so many. Thanks /E
Thanks Emil, yea I think the Exodus to Dorico will be continuing for a while!
Good tips, Ryan 🙂My current favourite is the new insert mode scope for voice/staff/global/bar-only global...
The new insert mode is terrific ! Also, the jump bar is such a time saver...
Hi Ryan, I would like to see more videos from you about how do you use Dorico in your workflow. I learn a lot from your videos! Thank you!
Pressing "J" and then using "explode". Priceless 👌
Great video, Ryan. I wonder which oi both software is better for you? Sibelius looks likes to be more friendly to learn than Dorico (at least 3.5). Specially in page formatting in engrave mode, Dorico looks to me very "obscure". What do you think about it?
In my opinion the caret behavior actually makes more sense then "inputting rests" but I can understand why this is complicated for people that works with other softwares longer.
I’ve never used input rests actually. I usually use the arrow keys to advance to the next beat I want to enter a note. I also love moving notes around with the shortcut keys in terms of their placement in a bar and then often extending or shortening their duration. It’s one of the key features in Dorico that I dearly miss if I’m working in MuseScore which is also nice but rather clunky compared to Dorico IMHO
The move/copy notes shortcut to above or below staff is also brilliant.
I bought a Logitech G600 Mouse with 20 programmable Shortcuts.
You can also program Macros.
Very handy and useful!
great tips!
Just moved to Dorico from Finale after, what... 27 years, at least. I just couldn't take it any more with Finale's convoluted menus, unstable nature and crappy sound playback. Finale is a fantastic, forward-thinking, powerful notation program... for the 1990s.
I don't have any creative tips to offer for Dorico at this point... I'm still learning my way around. Only to say that in general things are so much more intuitive and easy than they were in Finale. I'm now trying to figure out page layouts and getting scores and parts looking session-level good. I'm finding that a bit challenging currently.
I know what you mean, it’s funny how a new program can feel more intuitive than one you’ve been using for years
i love Dorico, it is the best yet
In Dorico 99% of the time you don't really enter rests. They are just created when there isn't anything there. Also how far the carrot moves is controlled by the rhythmic grid which is set under the "write" drop down menu at the top.
With the space bar the caret actually moves by whatever rhythmic value you have selected in the toolbar, not by the grid. The arrow keys move it along the grid.
It takes a while to get used to rests in Dorico -- they are just the absence of notes. For me it's faster -- use the space bar or the right arrow, depending on the length of the rest. Sometimes I use the mouse to move to another place, if it's far enough away.
@@RyanLeach right. Also if you press cmd+right (left) arrow it jumps to the next bar if needed. Thank you for allt he tipps.
@@bonuebonue This tip I like. Thx!
@@RyanLeach Correct, but that's not entering rests. You're just skipping duration and then the rests appear when you add another note down the line. The only time I really ever explicitly enter a rest is when I have multiple voices on one staff but the bottom one doesn't play for a measure. I then need to enter that voice, Shift-B, and type rest, which enters a bar rest.
Friendly suggestion. Please try these videos with little or no background music. For a brain like mine, the music makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. I was always that student who could not listen to music while doing homework. :)
Hello Ryan! Great video!👍
One quick question.
Dorico vs Sibelius, which is easy to work with 3rd party sample libraries? and noteperformer ?
In my experience NotePerformer functions exactly the same on both. With Dorico 4 I'd say it's miles ahead for using sample libraries because there's now a piano roll and you can edit MIDI information alongside your score. However I still prefer to export the MIDI after I'm done writing and do my mockups in Logic.
@@RyanLeach Thanks for the info!! 🙏
Those of us with Finale would love to know how much you like Dorico at this point!
How can I select notes above a set pitch?
How do I get Dorico to indicate, for example, Maj 7 as triangle?
Hello Ryan ! Not directly related but have you tried Noteperformer ? What do you think ?
NotePerformer is probably one of my favorite purchases in years!
@@RyanLeach It's amazing... I can't wait for NotePerformer 4 ! What a great time for composers =D
Hello, Do you know if you can use your DAW and Dorico 5 together so they sync and record regions in your DAW and on Dorico Pro 5 simultaneously or do you have to import midi files into Dorico Pro 5 all day as you go along?
There is no sync like you are suggesting, although wouldn't go back and forth all day long but instead do the sketch and composition and Dorico and the production in Logic
@@RyanLeach Hi Ryan,
I hope you are doing well today. I am talking about rewire: everyone has been provided rewire for a long years. The instruments do exist in Logic as far as vsl is concerned and also in Dorico but the sound stage in Dorico 5 does not exist in Logic. Dorico also has instruments and other steinberg instruments; so it would be better to bounce from Dorico 5 if it does: otherwise it would make no sense at all to have your sound stage like you have in Dorico if it's only for notation. Therefore it would sound better if it was possible for Dorico to play in the groove - But if I am to do the sketch in Dorico then I would have to import back into Logic - But the composition in Dorico would go way beyond the sketch.
@@dynamicalan Personally I don't use the VSTs in Dorico at all, I just use NotePerformer. I completely separate the processes though, so I do not go into Logic to produce until the composition is done. But your line "in the groove" might be the main thing - if it's something groove or synth based I'll probably just do the entire thing in Logic. I use Dorico for pieces that lend themselves more to notation, like an orchestral track rather than a trailer cue
@@RyanLeach No that's not what I meant - It's singers don't really sing metric notation programs tend to sound like they are playing from note to note instead of playing, for example on the and of 2 (2&) that's how one section felt while listening to one of the videos - Rewire might be outdated but I did notice Cubase running in the background in one of the videos so the audio files will play with the project. I will have to find that again. Thank You
There should be a sync to option in Logic if Dorico Pro 5 can send but bouncing is the other question: something just aren't midi - Thank You.
Is it possible to make a Video of a playing sheet… ?
what is a playing sheet?
A recorded pianosheet Playing where you Can see the cursor moving .. Sorry for my English and thank you for Your Videos … 👍
@@PianoPoet481 unfortunately as far as I know you can’t export a video. I use screen capture software to do it
Do music sheets made with Dorico look as good as with Sibelius?
I guess it depends on what you’re going for but I think so.
They look way better IMO