SpaceX & Nasa to Send Dragon on a Dangerous RESCUE Mission
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(Dragon’s application in space rescue mission) 2:46
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outro 7:56
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SpaceX & Nasa to Send Dragon on a Dangerous RESCUE Mission
The spaceflight is well known for its high safety rating.
As of February 2024, 681 people have reached the altitude of space but only 19 astronauts have died in-flight accidents. It means a low rate of death of roughly 3%.
However, everything will get more serious in the future when the space tourism era blooms, especially when SpaceX Starship may get to 1000 flights per year.
SpaceX & Nasa to Send Dragon on a Dangerous RESCUE Mission
It's reasonable as the more people who fly in space, the higher the likelihood of something going wrong.
To prepare for that bad scenario, Nasa officials have devised an idea called: a space rescue mission centered on the SpaceX Dragon spacecraft.
While the project is still on paper, debates around its feasibility have emerged in the space community, raising many issues that need to be resolved to make this idea possible.
Find out everything in today's episode of Techmap.
(SpaceX & Nasa to Send Dragon on a Dangerous RESCUE Mission
Like the rescue fleets in the ground or ocean, the emergency rescue mission for space refers to any system that allows for the rescue or escape of personnel from situations that endanger human life in a spaceflight operation.
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I always wondered if docking adapters had a standard design for interoperability. Guess not. With commercial space stations being planned a standard design is required.
I find it odd that there would be different docketing ports at least on the ISS, otherwise i could understand but again i wonder what the purpose of not making a universal docketing port, is there the potential concern for a potential enemy docking with the said craft or otherwise?
The current International Docking System Standard has been in place since 2010. All ISS partners are currently using this system. Other cross-compatible systems have existed since Apollo-Soyuz in 1975. This video is absolutely FULL of mis-information.
@@corwinchristensen260 Perhaps what you say is so. But current docking systems are primitive. For rescue, much better docking is necessary. So it's time for development, redesign, and another step to the future. Do you know how long it takes astronauts to get from the outside of the locks at the ISS to actual entry into the inside of the station? There are NASA videos of repair operations there that can show you. It takes hours.
@farmergiles1065 the International Docking Adapter has sort of existed for some time, BUT the engineers working on it have decided to retire on the project instead doing their job. Fire the lot and tell the next batch finish in 5 years or go to prison for fraud.
@@farmergiles1065 you would think that they worked for the government.
SpaceX should build its original version of the Dragon capsule that would have held more crew members. Or modify it a bit larger for the emergency response system. The trunk could then carry extra portable O2 and other rescue supplies and/or repair tools and parts.
Why..? Starship much...
Dragon could be configured to carry a barrel docking port that could be installed in its "trunk" for another ship to dock with, pull out, and allow Dragon turn around and dock to its other side to form a seal to transfer astronauts.
Where do you get "only 19 astronauts have died"?? I'm up to 21: 14 in the Shuttle program, 3 in Apollo, 3 in the Salyut 1 and I believe it was Komarov solo.
Crew Dream Chaser would be the ideal rescue ship. Keep 2 of them or Dragon on standby for rescues.
Yeah, Dream Chaser can be a good idea when it works.
Not that I want anything bad to happen, but it would be interesting to see how modern flight command and engineers would respond to an Apollo 13 type of issue. Those boys back then could think outside the box better, I believe, than they're allowed to today. For NASA that is. SpaceX has proven they expect their engineers to be extra. Thinking outside the box is a prerequisite to getting a job at SpaceX probably.
He had them building an underwater capsule to free stranded scouts in a cave. They built it, but not before other divers got the kids out with tanks and lines.
Spacex designed and put the capsule together right quick all the same.
@avgjoe5969 that's exactly what I'm talking about... EXTRA! Thinking outside the box, SpaceX engineers ROCK!
I never quite noticed the AI except for today when it said the year “one thousand nine hundred seventy’
Thunderbirds are go!
How to transfer without docking adapters?
It's called 'use the door'.
Everybody puts on their IVA suit and float to the other ship. An IVA suit can handle 18 minutes outside.
That simple hey?
Train astronauts on emergency rescue missions before the mission and prepare rescue vehicles before the mission so it can launch when required...everything checked out.
Yes, train them like you would an ambulance crew or search and rescue, with variances for space rescue, repair, etc.
Excellent stuff bro
Love to hear that, thanks a lot
Crew Dragon needs an option to quickly restore the original 7 crew seat configuration, maybe with the extra row of seats on a "pallet". And maybe add an inflatable habitat in the trunk. Eventually the S&R will be moved to a Dream Chaser if Elon doesn't get off the stick.
The number of seats was reduced to 4 due to need for better recline for G-forces that might be experienced. Think they can revert to 7 if they are willing to take a bit of risk (ie - risk a back issue vs dying).
@@avgjoe5969 That's my thought, too. But they need to leave a pallet with an extra set of "jump seats" on the ISS and a set at each launch site that services the crew Dragon for emergencies. Make it like a baby seat so that it can be quickly installed and removed on the crew dragon. NASA might even want to look into the lifeboat concept again maybe a specially modified Crew Dragon than can take up a long term station on ISS. Eventually, there needs to be a better solution, perhaps a crewed version of Dream Chaser.
We recently had a need to return a stranded astronaut and 2 cosmonauts, but the suit connectors were incompatible. It would be a nice start to standardized suit connectors and a standard international docking adapter. But nasa etc al would prefer to see how many of each they can come up with.
@@steveadams7550 Maybe a set of adapters in every transport vehicle USA to USSR and USSR to USA. And I like the idea of a universal docking collar. For the next gen of vehicles.
Maybe the extra seats could be inflatable.
Why can’t NASA put Life-Ship, Life Boot, a combo Sierra Space inflatable solar HAB and HEX or square 6 docking port station with booster stage? This will give 4 open docking ports, one can be Russian docking. There will be docking ports for ship in troubled and docks for Rescue ship. Two or 3 in low earth orbit for up to 10 crew to stay up to a week .
It's easier from ISS to save another ship. But preview more ship annexed ISS to rescue.
In orbit chain of lifebuoy style space craft module which doubles up as a solar warning system when not activated. That then can be manipulated and maneuvered into a rendezvous if needed to prove a temporary safe in orbit additional shelter. Until a main rescue mission can be put together. Giving time and extra space to divide up the stranded astronauts into two separate craft, when docked.
A regular rolling program of lifebuoy satellite's kept up in orbit on standby, being upgraded with every launch. As older vehicles become increasingly unreliable over a duration lifespan. Get parked in the graveyard further out.
So in the end, bits of the I.S.S when it decommissioned could be left as a unmanned beacon that gets regular maintenance missions for this purpose with experiments that are attached to the outside. Placed up in a higher orbit and monitored for signs of impact damage and the like. After all it cost a lot to put them up there in the first place. Recycle and reuse, space junk.
Someone needs to CAREFULLY edit text to clean up voice presentation
Thanks for cmt. I noted it
Indeed, voice over is very flat. Possibly Al generated. Bad voice over is my main reason for not subscribing to this channel.
ie.... 3 5 days
It's also wrong.
Apollo 13 didn't have a Hydrogen tank problem.
The Dragon would be great for rescuing a few people like a small scientific mission. However think about a space hotel that has a major emergency. The Starship would be the only spacecraft large enough to handle lets-say ten tourist and the space hotel staff of about ten.
Dragon can handle 7 people.
It's NASA that set the limit at 4.
Yeah let's worry about this thing that won't exist in the next 100 years
@@mervstash3692 Whether its worth the effort today is arguable, whether there will be a need in the next 50 years is very likely. That said, there would likely be alot of Starships by then.
@@avgjoe5969 I guarantee there won't be. They will be bankrupt in a few years. There is no big demand for private launches. You need demand to fund this stuff. Can't rely on investor capital forever
The Crew Dragon requires custom made spacesuits to plug into the crew life support systems and they are all custom made. There are no "off the shelf" Space-Ex space suits available to the best of my knowledge. The Dream Chaser, on the other hand, may not have these compatibility problems.
I'm sure they can throw the required space suits into the seats for whoever and however many they are saving
@@scottbender9828 This very issue was the hot topic after the second Soyuz spacecraft sprung a leak and put the Russian crew in jeopardy since no Russian spacecraft was ready for a rescue mission. Their tour of duty on the ISS was extended until a replacement spacecraft was sent to provide a ride home for them.
I find it hard to beleive that NASA hasn't already thought about this and i am sure that Elon/SX has already thought about it, i wonder if they have a crewed vessel sitting in a clean room ready to go if need be? I cant imagine that SX wouldn't have some type of system in place?
They haven't. He pulled this straight out of his butthole
At this moment there is no need for a dangerous rescue mission, not in this video
So, why
SpaceX has a Emergency plan from the Beginning. SpaceX needs to be free to launch and improve it systems Thats how they improve so fast!!!
Lol the company that has zero emergency escape systems is all over emergency plans. Makes total sense
Given the amount of information available in open literature this clip could have been better researched.
Thanks for sharing it for me. Could you please share more?
The only research that went into it was logging into ChatGPT
It was a general statement of a need for an on call rescue vehicle. What specifics were you looking for?
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So much incorrect information here. Whom ever wrote this needs to do more research.
I will try to improve this. Thanks your feedback
I think you need to innumerate the specific items that need correcting.
In general, it seems correct to me. Are there some specifics that you are referring to? Turn around times, etc?
Is it so hard to have a human read these scripts? It’s a real turn off when you realize that the narration is artificial. I stopped viewing the video.
We will improve this, thanks
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I recall it being proposed when the first ISS modules went up. I was determined that it was both too expensive and that a long term life boat would probably "die" in orbit. That might have been true back in the 1990's but the tech today is much more reliable.
NASA could just build a rescue satellite and leave it in space ready for a rescue mission.
The biggest flaw in that program is "and leave it". Everything deteriorates in space, and needs round-the-clock-and-calendar monitoring to ensure viability. Maybe you'd like to suggest who has funds to support that?
@@farmergiles1065 if they can leave the Hubble space telescope in orbit as long as they did, they can do the same for a rescue vehicle.
@@kdubb81 Didn't say it couldn't be done. Said it isn't financed. Do you know the budget of the Hubble?
@@farmergiles1065 No. What's more important? People's lives or the dollar?
@@kdubb81 Didn't say what was important, or what should be. Said only what the current state is. And why should NASA automatically do this? There's a whole industry being built. Actually, it will take a fast-moving decade to build such a system anyway. We cannot provide such safety to space at the snap of a finger. Can't be done. But it's a good goal.
And it will also cost money. Sure people's lives are more important. That's why we should be more thoughtful of the kinds of risks people have been taking to get us to this point in the first place. But you still have to find the money. NASA doesn't have it. And our government keeps cutting its funds. I'd be in favor of a reversal of that trend. But we can't have anything for nothing. The money is the first problem to solve so that we can solve the problems of building a safety system, then build it, and then run it. All of that needs money. And yes, it's all worth it. So where do we get the money?
I'm happy as hell nasa came around in having mercy on tax payers development cost and in how long that would have taken( we do know but I'm not going to say it lol) tax money involved to do so billions.looking to spacex if they would take it up I say good chance spacex come up with something that works hope we don't need it.
F off... U want to bill us 10 x the value of the mission, to have a safe garanty. There is no life that valuable on earth right now.