MLB has a muddy balls problem, a breakdown

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  • @Jsalcedo23
    @Jsalcedo23 Před rokem +4877

    That layover was so sick. Makes you realize batters usually have no idea what's coming their way

    • @willsladich9482
      @willsladich9482 Před rokem +36

      Wild that DMo actually took on that pitch lmao

    • @ApexATL
      @ApexATL Před rokem +22

      Might have recognized the spin

    • @willsladich9482
      @willsladich9482 Před rokem +140

      @@ApexATL definitely just goes to show how insane the mind games are between pitcher and batter at the mlb level

    • @jadeduh4555
      @jadeduh4555 Před rokem +9

      "Pools are also good for holding water"

    • @t3hNinj0r
      @t3hNinj0r Před rokem +11

      Those pitches are nasty.

  • @buttersPbutters
    @buttersPbutters Před rokem +2510

    Rubbing the balls for the prescribed 30 seconds could result in wildly different results depending on the technique and enthusiasm of the person rubbing the balls.

    • @josepedroferreira9389
      @josepedroferreira9389 Před rokem +218

      yeah gotta rub the ball with enthusiasm

    • @bigasstrout
      @bigasstrout Před rokem +89

      The South Park pfp with this comment really makes it lol

    • @dirtymike3329
      @dirtymike3329 Před rokem +4

      @@bigasstrout facts

    • @thevoiceofcake
      @thevoiceofcake Před rokem +47

      I do love the complete lack of context contained in that sentence.

    • @Riley99
      @Riley99 Před rokem +6

      That’s what she said

  • @1Putt4eagle
    @1Putt4eagle Před rokem +285

    I was a MLB batboy for three years in the 80s and one of my responsibilities was to prep the game balls. It was a lot less structured back then but you did hear from pitchers about what they liked/didn't. I did a dozen dozen at the beginning of every homestand and between 3-6 more per game depending on how many got burned in the previous game. We used the same ball bag and didn't toss any out until the end of the homestand at which point they went to the BP and cage bags. We used a specific kind of mud but I can't tell you where it was sourced. The bottom of the bag was the same balls at the end of the homestand that went in at the start if it. Only once did I ever come close to running out of prepped balls. I was down to about a half dozen in the bag and 5-6 in the umps pouch in the bottom of the 9th. I have never before and never since rooted for my team to make three quick outs. But I did that inning. At the end of the game, the balls are stored in the umpires locker room. When I brought the bag in immediately after the game, the HP ump tossed his pouch balls in the bag and saw how close we came to to running out. He snapped a look at me and was ready to tear me a new one but stopped. (I was 15). I think he could tell by the expression on my face I knew and didn't need to be told anything. It never happened again.

    • @calemorgan8763
      @calemorgan8763 Před rokem +46

      Cool story thanks for sharing! A dozen dozen (144) is called a gross and a grocery store is called that because you used to be able to buy eggs by the gross

    • @Nihilianth
      @Nihilianth Před rokem +30

      Sounds like a job for someone they should entrust to other than someone who's only 15 years old and getting paid in peanuts.
      I always thought the maintenance of balls and other equipment should have been....well...the equipment manager's job.
      I always thought the bat boy was just some random ass kid from a group of kids they would occasionally rotate all season as an honorary position just to collect the bats thrown on the ground by the players.
      MLB and their players, umpires, and coaching staff making far too much money to be employing underage wage slaves for something that approximates actual real impactful work.

    • @t_ylr
      @t_ylr Před rokem +4

      Kinda wild they were letting teams do it however they wanted until recently.

    • @1Putt4eagle
      @1Putt4eagle Před rokem +9

      @@Nihilianth it's much more like that today. This was in the early 80s.

    • @L1ama
      @L1ama Před rokem +21

      @@calemorgan8763 ehh not quite, "grocery" comes to english from french grossier (wholesaler), which comes from latin grossus. Grossus is also the origin of gross meaning 144, but they developed in parallel rather than one from the other

  • @josephheld4361
    @josephheld4361 Před rokem +277

    The behind-the-scenes breakdown is the perfect example of why I gave up playing baseball after 8th grade. Once pitchers started learning how to throw breaking balls, it was game over for me.

    • @Dead_Goat
      @Dead_Goat Před rokem +1

      I loved it. Curveballs are the easiest thing to hit and hit deep.

    • @grahamsmallwood
      @grahamsmallwood Před rokem +9

      You need the power of voodoo. Although it didn't help Pedro Cerrano.

    • @TheNooners123
      @TheNooners123 Před rokem

      I can agree, except I would sit back waiting for the curve instead of waiting for the fast ball due to shitty bat speed. I would have much rather chilled at first base with my shot arm than hitting any day.

  • @bryeep
    @bryeep Před rokem +1979

    That quick improvisation at the 2min mark to show us viewers the similarities in the pitcher's pitches was next level big jimmay! Great behind the scenes work 💪

    • @booster4liferh
      @booster4liferh Před rokem +2

      Yes!!!

    • @palmerbailey4333
      @palmerbailey4333 Před rokem +5

      Awesome breakdown. Also, the batter basically has 0.4 seconds to decide if he’s gonna swing. Amazing athletes

    • @palmerbailey4333
      @palmerbailey4333 Před rokem +1

      @@johnbeckerle6260 what are you talking about? Confused. Surely, you’re not talking about original poster complimenting his breakdown of pitches?

    • @juliebraden6911
      @juliebraden6911 Před rokem +2

      So putting up an overlay, which is a very common thing, is "next level" for you? And you called him "jimmay"? You sound like you're in your 50s and just figured out there's more to the internet than just facebook so now you're trying to sound cool like you're young again.

    • @ThorGodofThunder420
      @ThorGodofThunder420 Před rokem

      Big Jimmay! I know whose balls you're rubbing down right now.

  • @xjimmyx1814
    @xjimmyx1814 Před rokem +801

    i love how he turned into pitching ninja for a minute 😂

    • @jeremydyar7566
      @jeremydyar7566 Před rokem +36

      Jomboy has been overlaying pitches for years

    • @louiet2679
      @louiet2679 Před rokem +12

      @@jeremydyar7566 relax lol noones talking bad about jomboy 😆 u people r so sensitive n defensive its pathetic

    • @AceofYankees
      @AceofYankees Před rokem +11

      @@louiet2679 how is that sensitive?

    • @louiet2679
      @louiet2679 Před rokem

      @@AceofYankees 🤫 ur too slow to understand anything so dont worry about it

    • @michaelbeelby1995
      @michaelbeelby1995 Před rokem +8

      @@AceofYankees Could it be the instant jump to 'defend' when no insult or criticism was leveled in the OP? Think that might have something to do with it?

  • @kingslayer3796
    @kingslayer3796 Před rokem +276

    For those that havent played baseball, or maybe werent a pitcher:
    "Pearls" are what we call fresh, new baseballs. There's almost a thin layer of wax or something similar on brand new baseballs that give them a really slick feel and make them almost impossible to grip naturally. Thats how Tepera can tell instantly that the balls weren't rubbed down. It's actually a really big deal, and I've likened it to trying to throw a cue ball (pool/billiards) when the balls aren't prepped before being brought into the game. It's also not really something Tepera can fix while already on the mound, by the time it gets to the pitcher its too late.

    • @maxassault19
      @maxassault19 Před rokem +9

      To me it's dried out, almost certainly why the humidor is recommended. The slick feeling as I understand it comes from the surface of the baseball drying out the fingertips at the point of contact which means you lose that feeling of grip.

    • @justinskywalker
      @justinskywalker Před rokem +5

      I would love to know why any of this is an issue in the first place. Just get rawlings to make a ball that is good for for professional baseball pitchers. I'm sure that could be done in a way that doesn't change the physics of the ball in a way that's statistically significant. Not like they care about that anyways.

    • @gscurd75
      @gscurd75 Před rokem +11

      @@justinskywalker It is one of those things that if it was easy and inexpensive to fix, they would have done it already.

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju Před rokem +1

      Can't pitchers request a new ball?

    • @syrialyze7654
      @syrialyze7654 Před rokem +7

      @@KaitouKaiju That's the point of the entire video, lol. The pitcher requested new balls but each were fresh. The ump let him know those were all he had.

  • @JackMainVlogs
    @JackMainVlogs Před rokem +351

    Jomboy, I used to be a batboy for the Vermont Lake Monsters when they were the Oakland A's short season affiliate. The umpires were tasked with rubbing 6 dozen baseballs per game which usually lasted about 6 innings, and the clubhouse rubbed another 5 dozen per game, which usually had to go through a through review process by that day's starting pitcher. We stored game day balls in a boiler room in a ball bag which helped keep them fresh. Happy to discuss further!

    • @ZerodepthFTR
      @ZerodepthFTR Před rokem +14

      Hope more people speak up if they have more anedotes about ball rubbing. Thanks for sharing! I played baseball in youth had no idea this was a thing at all.

    • @MrBeachbum313
      @MrBeachbum313 Před rokem +6

      Completely unrelated to baseball, but I've been thinking of moving up to Burlington if my work allows it. How did you like the area?

    • @jayjya
      @jayjya Před rokem +6

      @@ZerodepthFTR i ball rub all the time

    • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
      @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Před rokem +4

      @@ZerodepthFTR Yeah I got some ball rubbing stories for you.

    • @GeoffO856
      @GeoffO856 Před rokem

      I'm assuming at those SS games, fans got to keep the balls? I've attended my fair share of AZL Rookie League games and they usually have uniformed players from the home team (who have the day off) go and collect all foul balls hit out of play.

  • @huggyb1949
    @huggyb1949 Před rokem +771

    This would be a perfect video for a manscaped sponsor

  • @jg2467
    @jg2467 Před rokem +299

    That behind the scenes part was pretty cool

  • @djetton1
    @djetton1 Před rokem +343

    Jomboy too generous with these 'Behind-The-Scene' layovers. Such a thing of beauty.

  • @jimbeam275
    @jimbeam275 Před rokem +7

    “That was worthwhile” yes it was jimmy

  • @Boyso5407
    @Boyso5407 Před rokem +696

    You could see right from the beginning those balls weren’t rubbed up. They were way too white. They honestly look like they had just been taken out of the box. The balls usually look a litte dirty cause of the mud but those looked like brand new, untouched baseballs

    • @jmcnally245
      @jmcnally245 Před rokem +79

      I am not a huge baseball guy, so I don’t know the intricacies of baseball preparation, but those balls were so damn white it literally caught my eye in the first few moments of the video.

    • @davruck1
      @davruck1 Před rokem +19

      Maybe they ran out of mud balls by the 8th inning?

    • @3xceIIent
      @3xceIIent Před rokem +2

      @@davruck1 Than shouldn't they take a minute to throw them in the dirt and roll the around a bit? Obviously that isn't ideal, but it would be better than using brand new balls.

    • @davruck1
      @davruck1 Před rokem +4

      @@3xceIIent yeah. they should have permanent reserve balls that get mudded but dont get used unless its an emergency. keep like 3 dozen in the possesion of the umpire crew instead of making teams resonsible for extras. the reserve stash should only be refreshed and used whan necessary

    • @SteelersCardinals1
      @SteelersCardinals1 Před rokem +3

      @@davruck1 could have grabbed the wrong box too.

  • @theburnetts
    @theburnetts Před rokem +167

    Seems kind of odd that nobody has developed an automated way of applying mud to a baseball. Some machine that could be in each clubhouse that would apply the standard mud texture to each ball.

    • @michaelboen2314
      @michaelboen2314 Před rokem +14

      Sounds like the same argument for balls and strikes

    • @allan0880stein
      @allan0880stein Před rokem

      Cause the machine would end up being Chinese. They’re trying to take America out of America.

    • @rockbandplayit6018
      @rockbandplayit6018 Před rokem +2

      Angel Hernandez rubbed gloriously with the secret mud. You’re welcome.

    • @runvnc208
      @runvnc208 Před rokem +20

      True but also, since the baseballs are manufactured, wouldn't it make more sense to use a ball that comes out of the factory ready to go? So many things about baseball are extremely dated. I hope someone starts a pro Wiffleball or pro Blitzball league. Really, if they had plastic when baseball was invented then they probably would have invented something a lot more like Wiffleball.

    • @dom19945
      @dom19945 Před rokem +12

      You’d think the pro baseball manufacturer would create that texture themselves. Otherwise, their product is useless.

  • @mattg9971
    @mattg9971 Před rokem +169

    From experience, the MLB has their own people inspect every single game ball hours before the game and there is a strict chain of custody from the second the balls are inspected to the umps receiving them. Any balls with too much or too little mud is rejected. It is a standardized process across the league and the amount of mud on each batch of balls is recorded with pictures of a random sample and sent to NY each game. The fact that these balls are so white is a mistake on the part of MLB personnel not the teams.

    • @sethcunningham2138
      @sethcunningham2138 Před rokem +17

      Bingo! The umpires could also pull these balls from service and send them to New York for analysis. Teams get fined over this shit.

    • @mattg9971
      @mattg9971 Před rokem +1

      @@sethcunningham2138 Indeed. The MLB has a more than a few procedural rules that are...interesting. As far as the balls go, the most common infraction by the team in my experience was the clubhouse managers not having the balls ready to be inspected at exactly 3 hours prior to first pitch.

    • @HeelBJC
      @HeelBJC Před rokem +3

      Or Tepera is being a toddler because he had a bad start and the balls were fine. One is an issue with one person, the other is a massive systematic failure of like dozens of people. Occam's razor.

    • @zym6687
      @zym6687 Před rokem

      @@HeelBJC The balls are clearly not rubbed

    • @avian_barrister
      @avian_barrister Před rokem +4

      @@HeelBJC Dozens of people? Gimme a break. One bored dude glanced over 10 dozen balls for the 90th straight day. And don't forget that the balls are rubbed up so the pitcher can grip them. If you want to know if they are properly conditioned, ask a pitcher.

  • @CoreyHague
    @CoreyHague Před rokem +59

    Jomboy with the Adobe Premiere tips along with a breakdown, what a pro.

  • @Rolling_Coasters
    @Rolling_Coasters Před rokem +362

    Speaking of the wedding ring he was wearing, apparently that is not allowed. Graham Ashcraft was pitching with a wedding band on his GLOVE HAND, and the umpire made him remove it. MLB needs to be more consistent with this stuff.

    • @dennissvitak6453
      @dennissvitak6453 Před rokem +80

      In Jim Bouton's book Ball Four, he talks about how the Yankee's catcher Elston Howard would sharpen the inside of his shin guard, and whack the ball against it before throwing it back to the pitcher. This would cause a nice cut on the ball, and it would do crazy things. This was 60 years ago.

    • @1231crazymonkey
      @1231crazymonkey Před rokem +10

      but if the ring is in his gloved hand how does it have any effect on the way the game is played by anyone including the pitcher? is it more of a safety thing that they have a “no rings” rule in place?

    • @aarontompkins7204
      @aarontompkins7204 Před rokem +46

      Maybe it has something to do with pitchers rubbing the ball. They always take off the glove and I could see an argument being made a wedding ring could possibly make extra scratches in a ball for a pitcher to grip.

    • @bigbadbillb
      @bigbadbillb Před rokem +14

      I spent an afternoon at the batting cages and had my wedding ring on the whole time, and got a gnarly blood blister on my finger from it.

    • @eazzy5822
      @eazzy5822 Před rokem +19

      You can wear thirty chains but no rings? Makes sense lol

  • @ethan2670
    @ethan2670 Před rokem +21

    love the on the fly editing

  • @tubby6339
    @tubby6339 Před rokem +67

    Id love to see that stacking thing with knuckleballs or maddux

  • @PeopleAcct707
    @PeopleAcct707 Před rokem +26

    That last minute decision to do the pitch comparison on the fly could've been the whole video, great stuff.
    It's so odd that baseball relies so heavily not just on getting mud on the balls, but getting **specific** mud from a **secret spot** somewhere in New Jersey to keep the league standardized. What a sport.

  • @raf.raf.
    @raf.raf. Před rokem +18

    "unwritten rules are stupid"
    Sees this video:
    "written rules are also stupid"

  • @briancarpenter1051
    @briancarpenter1051 Před rokem +112

    Doing the layover of the pitches live was phenomenal. More of that.

    • @johnjacobjingle7177
      @johnjacobjingle7177 Před rokem +4

      Less of that please

    • @CrispyBacon101
      @CrispyBacon101 Před rokem +10

      Check out Pitching Ninja if you like pitch overlays. He does a quick breakdown on almost all starters and relievers every day.

    • @jadeduh4555
      @jadeduh4555 Před rokem

      Watch more baseball tonight. 🤷🏻‍♂
      "It ain't new"
      Maybe on JomBoy?

    • @stephenbeck7222
      @stephenbeck7222 Před rokem

      He does it fairly often pretty sure.

  • @Christian_Martel
    @Christian_Martel Před rokem +15

    That layover is amazing. It shows clearly how the effect arrives in the last 5-10 feet before plate. Great video man!

  • @tfk_001
    @tfk_001 Před rokem +10

    Videos like this are why I love Jomboy's channel, deciding to go back to edit midway through the voiceover, same with the facecam shenanigans

  • @OrgasmicFailure
    @OrgasmicFailure Před rokem +36

    Man... you're actually getting better. You're about the only content creator I can watch every video from without even really caring what's going on. Your commentary is perfect. Perfect video length for the appropriate content. Easy to follow yet immersive overlays. No bias. Conscice information. Everything is wonderfully balanced. Just hope you know we appreciate your persona and work. Thank you.
    (fully understanding of sponsors especially with how you subtly throw it in but promoting gambling is the only criticism)

    • @terdfergeson23
      @terdfergeson23 Před rokem

      Better than having Raid shadow legends sponsors lol. I hear what you’re saying but betting is just a part of sports now it’s not like it’s going away. Have you seen the banners at premier league soccer games? It’s like 5 different betting agencies make up over 50% of the posters

    • @aarontooth
      @aarontooth Před rokem

      What's wrong with gambling?

    • @phillyphakename1255
      @phillyphakename1255 Před rokem +2

      @@aarontooth you walk up to someone and hand them a dollar, then they hand you 90 cents in return, even though they try to subtly convince you that if you just handle the situation correctly, you can get more than a dollar.
      It is the false hope that they are selling which gets people to think gambling is immoral.

    • @aarontooth
      @aarontooth Před rokem +1

      @@phillyphakename1255 I think you're saying gambling is immoral when bookies etc deceive you about your chances of winning etc. I agree with that, crooked businesses are bad news.
      How about when where gambling where everyone is straightforward, participants are fully informed, willingly take the risks, etc?

    • @phillyphakename1255
      @phillyphakename1255 Před rokem +1

      @@aarontooth To be clear, I was describing the thought process for many people, not necessarily me. There are also other reasons, religious objections for instance, where some people think gambling is a way of subverting the will of God, but the one I originally said is the most compelling for me and I think objectively.
      That said, a well informed participant who uses gambling as a way to make the game more exciting, knows the rules of the bet, knows the risks and rewards, has self control to not bet more than they are willing to lose, etc, if all of those conditions are met, I have no issue with sports betting. I had a friend in college who did just that, and he had a healthy and productive relationship with sports betting.
      Personally, the issue I have with sports betting companies is that I don't think they do their due diligence to safeguard people who aren't like my friend, in fact, I think they target the more vulnerable people, rope them in, install mental hooks to prevent their escape, all because it is the most profitable demographic. That is unethical.

  • @asdfaeou
    @asdfaeou Před rokem +207

    The issue with Tepera being a drama queen is situations like this, where he's probably right, but you just end up writing it off as drama queen stuff.

    • @davruck1
      @davruck1 Před rokem

      He’s a clown. Salty cuz he got his shit smashed into the corner.

    • @tpsin713
      @tpsin713 Před rokem +7

      the astros still making him eat his words. Walked off on him twice this year already!! Big mouth

    • @miguelsanchez2662
      @miguelsanchez2662 Před rokem

      @@tpsin713 *s can’t win the big one the right way haha lost a few WS already when they’re not using technology.

    • @tpsin713
      @tpsin713 Před rokem

      @@miguelsanchez2662 no one has gone back to back in the new era weirdo. Beat ur dodgers at ur place 3 games atleast 17 other teams doing same shit. cry moar

    • @slappzzz
      @slappzzz Před rokem

      Tapera dont give a fuck man. he'll run his mouth. Always has but it's usually justified. we were high school teammates and it hurt a little bit when my Stros made him eat his words but kinda not really🤣 He just hates losing trust me. sorry Ryan hope u dont read this!

  • @alexhoward5501
    @alexhoward5501 Před rokem +8

    The editing on the fly was so fun I love how Jomboy is always doing something different.

  • @mangosloth7250
    @mangosloth7250 Před rokem +10

    Was a clubbie for the home side of an mlb team for a few seasons (we had separate home and away clubbies), and it was our job to mud the balls before the game. This was before the new rules were in place. We probably did about 20 boxes at a time so they lasted a few games. Our pitchers often had input on how they wanted the balls mudded that we definitely obliged, some didn't care but others were very particular and would always drop in when we were doing it to give feedback.
    One guy always said "i want em black" which we always had issues with because he wasn't happy until there was a solid layer of crust on the balls, which the umpires wouldnt be happy about come game time when we filled their pouches.

    • @echobase1648
      @echobase1648 Před rokem

      Didn't the umpires muddy the baseballs at one time?

    • @mangosloth7250
      @mangosloth7250 Před rokem

      @@echobase1648 I can't speak for all of the past, but during the mid 2000's when I was there, it was solely our responsibility (the clubbies) and nobody had any influence on the process aside from our pitchers. I remember a couple times the umps requested a small batch be brought to the umpire room for inspection but it wasn't very often. It didn't feel like anyone was trying to regulate it, that's for sure lol.

  • @reccemdown
    @reccemdown Před rokem +19

    You should show more pitches like that 100%. Definitely shows the skill of the pitcher in an insanely precise way. It is easier to compare all pitchers in general that way too by seeing their own personal ball game all in one throw.

  • @electriceyeball
    @electriceyeball Před rokem +41

    Was a MLB stat nerd growing up. Couldn't watch enough baseball any level. Then I just got bored 10+ years ago. You're pulling me back. Thanks!

  • @MessOfThings
    @MessOfThings Před rokem +14

    You can easily cut that process down to 20 to 30 minutes by using two or three people. But there's nothing wrong with having one guy spend an hour rubbing up baseballs

  • @calvin4626
    @calvin4626 Před rokem +2

    I loved being able to see Jomboy’s thoughtprocess through editing. From the overlay to the math on how many baseballs. Real as it gets

  • @casmatt99
    @casmatt99 Před rokem +71

    Does anyone remember that episode of Dirty Jobs where Mike visited the guy who collects and supplies all the mud for MLB balls?

    • @AndrewAMartin
      @AndrewAMartin Před rokem +8

      The mud comes from a 'secret location' on Rancocas Creek in southern New Jersey, not far from where I went to high school...

    • @jonokiller
      @jonokiller Před rokem +15

      @@AndrewAMartin spoiler alert. it's just well branded mud

    • @loveandnapalm
      @loveandnapalm Před rokem +11

      @@AndrewAMartin its on public land, thats why its a secret... its kind of hilarious that a couple dudes stealing mud from the local creekbed have become so ingrained the sport of baseball

    • @geojesse9230
      @geojesse9230 Před rokem +1

      Such a great show

    • @deusvult6920
      @deusvult6920 Před rokem +9

      @@jonokiller imagine convincing the MLB you have superior mud and that they need to pay you for your special mud and only your special mud should be allowed.... respect the hustle

  • @therealbeedubbs35
    @therealbeedubbs35 Před rokem +19

    I used to work for a AA professional team, I was
    responsible for “muddying” all the game balls before hand. I believe it was special mud from the Nile River. Seriously. Kinda cool
    Edit: yes, I’d have pitchers come to me and tell me what balls to put in the game bag ball sack. (Yes I said ball sack)
    Some would have deeper laces for more break etc.

    • @nxstng7325
      @nxstng7325 Před rokem +1

      It’s from South NJ

    • @quintit
      @quintit Před rokem

      @@nxstng7325is what they want u to think

  • @DaddyStew-uh8cq
    @DaddyStew-uh8cq Před rokem +1

    Thank you for giving us a little inside look at what you go through to give us the amazing content you provide. Love you Jomboy

  • @Xdivus1
    @Xdivus1 Před rokem +1

    A+ on the improv editing jomboy! Another reason I love this channel is the geek out over the intricacies of baseball

  • @Verlisify
    @Verlisify Před rokem +43

    I didn't know this was going on. MLB having a lot of weird problems

    • @robertdog
      @robertdog Před rokem +1

      Not really that weird considering it's MLB. MLB could fuck up a wet dream.

  • @waltjones5114
    @waltjones5114 Před rokem +5

    Jake “Muddy Balls” Storiale

  • @tinysafari1851
    @tinysafari1851 Před rokem

    Cool editing and showing us in-depth the ball movements! Thanks

  • @BAllenK777
    @BAllenK777 Před rokem +1

    Most informative video I’ve seen in some time. Thank you for explaining the ball rubdown. Your quick videos sidebar was wizard. Pitchers are magicians. Keep doing your thang! Thx

  • @sleepyjoeisnotlegit
    @sleepyjoeisnotlegit Před rokem +3

    Respect for all the work you put in. Thank you

  • @evanc9636
    @evanc9636 Před rokem +5

    Love the vids jomboy you should do a video of the weirdest rules and a play that uses each of them just an idea love the vids

  • @MrMcBandgeek
    @MrMcBandgeek Před rokem

    I really liked seeing how you edit, your editing is always something I appreciate about your videos!

  • @C.A.D.
    @C.A.D. Před rokem +1

    This was like the closest jomboy video to a stream we'll get 😂 so much behind the scenes, calculator work, love it

  • @craigcampbell1843
    @craigcampbell1843 Před rokem +15

    When I lived in Seattle I was friends with the guy that muddied the baseballs. He was the concierge to the umpires. He did their laundry and told them where they could get the food they wanted or whatever they asked for. During the game he’d go into the crowd and give gifts to special kids and welcome them. He did other things too. Every summer when my parents would visit he’d get us seats right behind home plate that only the umpires and players families could get.

    • @thechovanone
      @thechovanone Před rokem

      Don’t care

    • @craigcampbell1843
      @craigcampbell1843 Před rokem +4

      @@thechovanone no one cares if you care or not.

    • @KC-nm4ct
      @KC-nm4ct Před rokem +4

      @@craigcampbell1843 F that dude. Thank you for sharing.

    • @ckdk5572
      @ckdk5572 Před rokem

      @@craigcampbell1843 ^fr fuck that guy cool story

  • @AH-lw2bj
    @AH-lw2bj Před rokem +21

    You're the GOAT Jomboy, never change!!

  • @blzt3206
    @blzt3206 Před rokem +1

    Loved that edit of you placing those two pitches together. The bts was cool.

  • @macritter4787
    @macritter4787 Před rokem +1

    Love your stuff, Jomboy. Keep doing what you do man.

  • @natethegreat4519
    @natethegreat4519 Před rokem +34

    Jomboy has pulled it off yet again…

  • @jefflewis4
    @jefflewis4 Před rokem +6

    I recall in the 70's and 80's, the average was 60 balls a game. Balls stayed in the game longer back then. Now most balls batted foul are taken out of the game, usually tossed in the stands to the fans. The 3rd out of the inning if its a fly ball to the outfield is also usually also tossed into the stands. So this will continue to be a problem unless they have a process to ensure every ball put in a game is thoroughly inspected beforehand.

    • @mikeydoesthings7877
      @mikeydoesthings7877 Před rokem +2

      I wouldn’t doubt it’s something excessive like, if the ball touches a bat, the ground, or if the pitcher simply doesn’t like it, balls get tossed away

  • @AliKhan04
    @AliKhan04 Před rokem

    the fact you did the overlay so quick you got talent bro and passion i love it jommmy!

  • @5manafireball
    @5manafireball Před rokem

    Jimmy love the video dude always been fascinated and loved your editing style glad you gave us a look at it

  • @adventure_48
    @adventure_48 Před rokem +3

    even though youre a NYY fanboy, i give you props for your breakdowns and editing skills man. that fastball slider comparison was def cool to watch you edit in realtime. bravo

  • @deo8313
    @deo8313 Před rokem +5

    not only is this man teaching everyone how to watch and love baseball, but we’re also getting a free editing lesson?! Womboy Wedia

  • @veritas_24
    @veritas_24 Před rokem +1

    Jomboy INCREDIBLE edit on this one. Loved the overlay. So frickin cool.

  • @hoodrock44
    @hoodrock44 Před rokem

    That mid video editing was top tier. What a pro you are. Good stuff my friend and great video

  • @randybutton9175
    @randybutton9175 Před rokem +4

    Im surprised the process of properly Muddying baseballs, hasn’t been addressed earlier in the MLB as something to make more consistent that’s extremely integral to the game with wild inconsistencies for years.
    I was a batboy for the Tacoma Rainiers, Seattle Mariners AAA team in 2007-09 while in high school, and home and away ball boys would show up to the field (Cheney Stadium) 4 hours prior to the game to do our pregame duties of which was running down 12 dozen baseballs every day, which we did in “the hole” a under the stadium seating, on the downslope, in a large storage type room. We’d store them in the Rawlings boxes then transfer to the ball bucket that Fit a good size amount for the game. The mud used was a specific mud that all the teams used, which is Mississippi Mud, and I’m Fairly certain has been used for a very long time and is consistent in the type of fine grit sandy mud that would lightly scuff off the slickness of the baseball converting it out of the pearl state. When we’d apply the mud we’d open the jar and mix a small cup full with large dollop with a little water to make a thinned out slurry. Definitely not an exact science. Then I’d apply a little with dipping my thumb pad into the mud and onto the bottom of the horseshoe, in a circular motion then rub it in by swiping it up the ball to apply it consistently, and continue to do the same in segments all around the ball, careful to not get them in the seams. You’d get really good and consistent with it after running down thousands of balls. But consistency is key.
    So to not see a potential irregularity of the process of muddying balls up, is surprising, I’m glad they’re ironing it out now developing a process league wide.
    One of the best jobs I’ve ever had by the way. Watch night games from the best seat in the house on a bucket, spittin seeds and slugging Gatorade’s, handing balls of to the blue when he’s signal over with his hands the number of balls he needed. I didn’t know about red man at that time, that woulda been real nice.

    • @jeffreykester6645
      @jeffreykester6645 Před rokem +1

      I worked the same job for the Indians AAA. Super fun stuff. Best part was hanging with pros all day before the game and I even have some buddies who are still good friends with zack plesak of the guardians because they were ball boys for him in AAA. Couldn’t think of a better first job

  • @route2070
    @route2070 Před rokem +57

    I am surprised, and didn't know pitchers are allowed to pitch with rings (wedding rings or otherwise). Seems like that would go against the standards of not roughing up the balls too much.

    • @catman-du8927
      @catman-du8927 Před rokem +4

      It's on the glove hand so maybe that's why? Though you are right that it could be used that way

    • @falcon1378
      @falcon1378 Před rokem +2

      Back in the day there was a lefty pitcher (forgot his name) who used to scratch up the ball to get a better grip on it and got suspended for it. Most of the guys I see nowadays pitch with silicon rings.

    • @mastod0n1
      @mastod0n1 Před rokem +3

      @@catman-du8927 do left handed people wear their wedding rings on their right hands? I've honestly never thought about it.

    • @mackenziecoleman8103
      @mackenziecoleman8103 Před rokem +2

      @@falcon1378 there was a pitcher that has sandpaper in his pocket and would sand every ball down a bit

    • @falcon1378
      @falcon1378 Před rokem +1

      @@mastod0n1 most of the guys I know that are left handed do. Idk, if I were to get married I’d wear it on my left hand since I literally wear like 4-6 rings on my hands already.

  • @AltxRoss
    @AltxRoss Před rokem

    love the editing and visual for that, insane pitches

  • @SkinnyP_
    @SkinnyP_ Před rokem

    honeslty cool little edit you made there, I like the behind the scenes stuff really cool!

  • @erikberg1148
    @erikberg1148 Před rokem +5

    Fun fact: all mud they rub on the balls comes from one family run company that dredges it from the Delaware river. It’s also like total worth $200 total a year.

  • @daithi1966
    @daithi1966 Před rokem +3

    I never fail to learn something when watching a Jomboy video. My son caught a flyball at a game and it had a nice muddy sheen to it, and certainly not a pearl.

  • @alerokilla419
    @alerokilla419 Před rokem

    This behind the scenes business is BOMB! So cool keep doing this!!

  • @j_scumbag1762
    @j_scumbag1762 Před rokem +1

    I will always love the overlay pitches. It truly shows the difficulty of hitting and skill of pitching unlike anything else

  • @delorean4383
    @delorean4383 Před rokem +3

    this would have been a perfect place for a Manscaped ad in the intro

  • @mortzy2149
    @mortzy2149 Před rokem +3

    really appreciate you getting to the nitty gritty problems with the mlb. more exposure means a better game in the long term. thanks jomboy

  • @drakecao2663
    @drakecao2663 Před rokem

    Really liked the live edit breakdown! Doesn’t need to be for every video but it is a nice little treat

  • @Moviesrule2011
    @Moviesrule2011 Před rokem +1

    Editing with Jomboy could be it’s own series

  • @narutoqweavatar
    @narutoqweavatar Před rokem +16

    I'm surprised Umpire didn't throw him out. Good job blue! It's a low bar but we have all seen guys get tossed for less.

    • @michaelboen2314
      @michaelboen2314 Před rokem

      Umpire prolly knew the balls sucked. But nothing he could do. Was the balls they were given.

  • @RJ12777
    @RJ12777 Před rokem +7

    A number of years ago Mike Rowe did a segment on
    “Dirty Jobs” about the people who collected all the “special mud” to mud up all the MLB balls with, along with the process of going it. Apparently the mud is very special and the location is kept a secret. Maybe MLB no longer used this mud and process

    • @oryanadin
      @oryanadin Před rokem +2

      Its New Jersey side of the Delaware river. Surprisingly enough there is an argument that it is illegal because it contains a quartz like mineral and the guy that sells it collects it on public land in which he does not own the mineral rights.

    • @nxstng7325
      @nxstng7325 Před rokem

      I thought it was the Rancocas creek

  • @markthompson7503
    @markthompson7503 Před rokem

    Great editing on the fly and once again an informative video...

  • @bladactania
    @bladactania Před rokem

    Loved that behind the scenes look. Not that it wasn't obvious before, but it just shows how much you love what you do!

  • @Jimmy_Watt
    @Jimmy_Watt Před rokem +4

    Laughed each time at "ballbag."

  • @stephenmellentine
    @stephenmellentine Před rokem +3

    “Get more mud when you rub: Roman.”

  • @johnhall1614
    @johnhall1614 Před rokem

    Very cool showing the 2 pitches, love your videos.

  • @justmcmanus
    @justmcmanus Před rokem

    Best part of the video is a quick overlay side note to Jimmy but also added to the (getting real long) list of why he should get an Emmy. Amazing work my guy.

  • @AzureKite
    @AzureKite Před rokem +3

    lmao the on the fly editing was hilarious

    • @chrisbrown18andup
      @chrisbrown18andup Před rokem +1

      What exactly was hilarious? At what point did you laugh yourself into hysterics?

  • @alexroman1370
    @alexroman1370 Před rokem +3

    Can you make a video on how many balls an mlb game goes through ? Or why they change it every time it hits dirt

    • @khehir99
      @khehir99 Před rokem

      AFAIK, they don't completely throw away a ball that hits the dirt. As long as they're not cut or anything, the ball boys wipe them off (probably in a very specific way), and they get put back into the rotation.

  • @beaubellamy2999
    @beaubellamy2999 Před rokem

    Overlay was wild. Thanks for taking the time.

  • @LikeAF0x
    @LikeAF0x Před rokem +1

    Really liked the layover sequence. Super interesting and cool to watch

  • @Corn-Pop.
    @Corn-Pop. Před rokem +4

    my uncle lived right down the road from where the special "MLB Baseball Mud" is collected, or at least where they had been collecting it for years, my uncle died like 10 years ago so I don't know if they still do

    • @edhartman6891
      @edhartman6891 Před rokem

      Delaware River mud 😉

    • @AndrewAMartin
      @AndrewAMartin Před rokem

      @@edhartman6891 More specifically, Rancocas Creek mud (which empties into the Delaware River). I went to high school not far from there, but never knew about the mud until later.

    • @edhartman6891
      @edhartman6891 Před rokem +2

      @@AndrewAMartin Close to the Tacony bridge ?

    • @stevedegaetano8188
      @stevedegaetano8188 Před rokem

      You can buy some for yourself. Lena Blackburne Rubbing Mud.

    • @AndrewAMartin
      @AndrewAMartin Před rokem

      @@edhartman6891 Yup, my dad took the Tacony-Palmyra Bridge to work for the five years we lived there. Used to be called the nickel bridge, it was up to 25 cents back then, it's probably $5 now... Glad I don't live there anymore.

  • @ethanpatton7921
    @ethanpatton7921 Před rokem +7

    I don't even like sports. I just like watching you for you awesome commentary, breakdowns, and technical stuff like comparing those 2 pitches. Keep up the good work!

  • @SomeGuyFromOK
    @SomeGuyFromOK Před rokem

    It was actually really cool to see part of the editing!

  • @brandonb.288
    @brandonb.288 Před rokem

    The 'on the fly editing' was the coolest part of the video! Way to go!

  • @DonnieTNJ
    @DonnieTNJ Před rokem +3

    I like when you cover weird sports like Sumo wrestling, do more of that please!

  • @johnsam8676
    @johnsam8676 Před rokem +8

    I appreciate Jomboy. However my love for baseball has waned considerably since last year. I’m an A’s fan. The way they do business is just to shit on the fans. They get us in that shitty ass stadium, get great players, don’t pay them, then ship them off once it’s time to pay. You can never buy a jersey because they’ll be gone as soon as they get good. Now they’re the worst team in baseball, stadium staff at the coliseum seems hellbent on making the fan experience terrible or uncomfortable, the owner could care less about fans or rings, and MLB baseball is only too happy to make sure them leaving Oakland after 55 years is all but certain. MLB is dying these days and they’re willing to waive a billion dollar relocation fee just so the team is worth a shit. Oakland A’s are the last dive bar in baseball. Maybe if the warriors owner could buy the A’s. That would be great, probably the only one that can turn it around. Sorry for the rant, nice video jom. 👍🏻

    • @jamieblank1515
      @jamieblank1515 Před rokem +1

      I feel for you John, as a Mariners fan, it hurts to see the A's ownership purposely shitting the bed. I hope the team never relocates. It still hurts to think about the Sonics leaving Seattle.

    • @acollectorslifeforme4201
      @acollectorslifeforme4201 Před rokem +2

      It’s impossibly hard to watch what the A’s ownership is doing to that team. I’m from the north bay and always enjoyed going to the coliseum because it was so much closer and cheaper than pacbell or candlestick, it’s not even that anymore, even if it was cheaper I still wouldn’t go to watch that product. The Warriors and Raiders had similar situations and had to leave Oakland to make it happen but once the A’s leave Oakland professional sports are finished in that city.

    • @ohger1
      @ohger1 Před rokem +2

      MLB is shortsighted and myopic. They don't care one bit about the future of baseball, only milking the fans right now. The only baseball I watch now is Jomboy, and I was a Yankee fan. I heard they're in first place. Big deal. Baseball will begin contraction in about 20 years, and Oakland will be one of the first teams to close shop. Oh, and as bad as MLB is, the player's union is every bit as culpable in the eventual death of baseball as a national game. I think it will eventually contract to an East Coast regional sport as it was a hundred years ago.

    • @oscarwinner2034
      @oscarwinner2034 Před rokem

      I'm with you. My love for it has greatly waned. My kids don't even care about the MLB. They play baseball and all, but don't pay any attention to the MLB like I did when I was kid. The whole experience of going to the games stinks.

  • @coolwill78
    @coolwill78 Před rokem

    Love the editing skills Jimmy!

  • @ethfun
    @ethfun Před rokem

    sometimes a random video just parts the kimono and shows you so much cool stuff at once. i loved that pitch onion skinning and explanation

  • @bradleythebuilder8743
    @bradleythebuilder8743 Před rokem +6

    It’s classic how we finally get a Mariners breakdown now that they’re on a huge win streak but it’s not of a recent game, it’s from back when we were getting rolled

  • @bryantsteury8910
    @bryantsteury8910 Před rokem +3

    I've never had this thought but I wonder if the MLB would do this now that they're more accepting of some things. At the start of every half inning the ump gives the pitcher a clean new ball and the pitcher has one of those small cannisters of ball mud he can use as little or as much of to get the ball prepped to his liking. All totally above the board, MLB knows precisely what's going on the ball BUT the pitcher gets to use the mud to their preference. Seems legit.

    • @Zraknul
      @Zraknul Před rokem

      One ball, lol. Second clearly super muddy, and leave some mud on it. Bring some goggles catcher.

  • @jeffreygreen1254
    @jeffreygreen1254 Před rokem +1

    The overlay of those two pitches is amazing. Glad you threw it in there and made it look so easy 🤣

  • @ImKyleM
    @ImKyleM Před rokem +2

    That layover was insane, especially done on the fly. Props to you

  • @derosa1989
    @derosa1989 Před rokem +6

    A few weeks ago i saw one of the Blue Jays pitchers do exactly the same thing, must have tossed 10 balls away that looked perfectly white, clearly hadn't been roughed up enough. What's next? Robot balls and strikes, and automated baseball preppers.

  • @fredleggett923
    @fredleggett923 Před rokem +13

    Seems like the MLB needs to invest in an automated muddying machine to ensure all balls go through the exact same process in an acceptable timeframe. Who wants to muddy a ball by hand? Sounds like slog work.

    • @bl-ni1iu
      @bl-ni1iu Před rokem

      This kind of thing is exactly why the mlb sucks. They keep trying to put standards, rules, and "expected outcomes" to every minutia of the game of baseball. It's really not that fun to watch when pitchers bitch about the "feel" of a ball. As if everything needs to be "perfect" before the play can begin. Play the damn game

    • @mal2ksc
      @mal2ksc Před rokem

      If they can let a machine call balls and strikes, they can certainly let a machine rub their balls for them.

    • @jhonviel7381
      @jhonviel7381 Před rokem

      that would ruin the game

    • @fredleggett923
      @fredleggett923 Před rokem

      @@jhonviel7381 It would? How?

    • @jhonviel7381
      @jhonviel7381 Před rokem

      @@fredleggett923 balls wouldnt feel right if done by a machine, shit why not just make the ball manufactures do it instead. might as well skip it all together and get pitching machines too!!!!

  • @superglx7028
    @superglx7028 Před rokem

    Great quick edit on the pitch release 👍

  • @RealityOrganized
    @RealityOrganized Před rokem +1

    5:01. And to think, 50 years ago, my friends and I used the same baseball, from one game to the next, *for years*.

  • @patron40silver
    @patron40silver Před rokem +8

    Question for anyone out there.
    Why is it that pitchers voluntarily get a new ball whenever one is put into play?
    20 or so years ago, pitchers wanted to keep a ball in play for as long as possible so it was scuffed and they could make it move more.

    • @impreza22bbs
      @impreza22bbs Před rokem

      Because it would have to be in an area that works for the pitch bein thrown. A new ball will be far more consistent to throw the pitch they want and location they want.

    • @CaptRR
      @CaptRR Před rokem +3

      Pitchers have become extremely reliant on ball movement and rotation over speed and precision, especially n the modern era. On the ball movement front, it does make pitchers last longer instead of gunning everyone down with fastballs all the time and makes it harder for hitters, but it makes pitchers into cry baby's if the ball isn't exactly now they like it and doesn't break the way they want it to. Personally MLB should just "mud" all the balls with their own employees and everyone gets the same ball pool.

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 Před rokem

      Because umpires are required to remove any ball that hits the dirt. You can try to hang on to one that has gotten scuffed up but if the ump notices it, he will remove it.

  • @safromnc8616
    @safromnc8616 Před rokem +3

    MLB continues to make a mockery of the game and chase fans away. What idiots.
    For anyone who has ever pitched, even in LL - you have new balls, you have no idea where the darn thing is going.

    • @safromnc8616
      @safromnc8616 Před rokem

      @Throg Listen to Mouse Outfit ft Sparkz Blaze It Up Really ? check their attendance figures and viewership...& get back to me once you are informed.

  • @yourleftfoot717
    @yourleftfoot717 Před rokem

    The live editing was amazing just the small look behind the scenes

  • @jlo7770
    @jlo7770 Před rokem

    That was really cool showing the pitches overlayed. Showing how you do it us super cool