Do Some People Deserve to Die? || Debate Clip || Abolish The Death Penalty

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
  • Is deciding whether or not to abolish the death penalty more than a question of public policy? Can it be argued solely based on the intent and real outcomes of capital punishment?
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Komentáře • 56

  • @dmtdreamz7706
    @dmtdreamz7706 Před 2 lety +3

    There was a very strange feature in this case, strange because of its extremely rare occurrence. This man had once been brought to the scaffold in company with several others, and had had the sentence of death by shooting passed upon him for some political crime. Twenty minutes later he had been reprieved and some other punishment substituted; but the interval between the two sentences, twenty minutes, or at least a quarter of an hour, had been passed in the certainty that within a few minutes he must die. I was very anxious to hear him speak of his impressions during that dreadful time, and I several times inquired of him as to what he thought and felt. He remembered everything with the most accurate and extraordinary distinctness, and declared that he would never forget a single iota of the experience. ‘About twenty paces from the scaffold, where he had stood to hear the sentence, were three posts, fixed in the ground, to which to fasten the criminals (of whom there were several). The first three criminals were taken to the posts, dressed in long white tunics, with white caps drawn over their faces, so that they could not see the rifles pointed at them. Then a group of soldiers took their stand opposite to each post. My friend was the eighth on the list, and therefore he would have been among the third lot to go up. A priest went about among them with a cross: and there was about five minutes of time left for him to live. ‘He said that those five minutes seemed to him to be a most interminable period, an enormous wealth of time; he seemed to be living, in these minutes, so many lives that there was no need as yet to think of that last moment, so that he made several arrangements, dividing up the time into portions-one for saying farewell to his companions, two minutes for that; then a couple more for thinking over his own life and career and all about himself; and another minute for a last look around. He remembered having divided his time like this quite well. While saying good- bye to his friends he recollected asking one of them some very usual everyday question, and being much interested in the answer. Then having bade farewell, he embarked upon those two minutes which he had allotted to looking into himself; he knew beforehand what he was going to think about. He wished to put it to himself as quickly and clearly as possible, that here was he, a living, thinking man, and that in three minutes he would be nobody; or if somebody or something, then what and where? He thought he would decide this question once
    for all in these last three minutes. A little way off there stood a church, and its gilded spire glittered in the sun. He remembered staring stubbornly at this spire, and at the rays of light sparkling from it. He could not tear his eyes from these rays of light; he got the idea that these rays were his new nature, and that in three minutes he would become one of them, amalgamated somehow with them. ‘The repugnance to what must ensue almost immediately, and the uncertainty, were dreadful, he said; but worst of all was the idea, ‘What should I do if I were not to die now? What if I were to return to life again? What an eternity of days, and all mine! How I should grudge and count up every minute of it, so as to waste not a single instant!’ He said that this thought weighed so upon him and became such a terrible burden upon his brain that he could not bear it, and wished they would shoot him quickly and have done with it.’⁷

  • @JoefromNJ1
    @JoefromNJ1 Před 7 lety +10

    the only reason death penalty is expensive is because of appeals. the death penalty is not in and of itself that expensive.

    • @mikailjaffer778
      @mikailjaffer778 Před 6 lety

      actually its not mostly appeals but in fact how it is against multiple amendments and the constitution

    • @d.6823
      @d.6823 Před 6 lety

      dp costs 10x as much. save the money and give it to the victims families, they will appreciated that more.

  • @spennyb89
    @spennyb89 Před 9 lety +3

    Obviously haven't seen the whole debate yet, but I'm surprised that they were treating the idea that people don't deserve to die as something ludicrous that you have to distance yourself from. I'm not saying it's not a controversial idea, but certainly one which many people share and which is defensible.

  • @kaishemanga9862
    @kaishemanga9862 Před 3 lety +3

    Yes some people do

  • @inanna2u767
    @inanna2u767 Před 9 lety +5

    Death is too good for some people. No to the death penalty.

    • @thesoloistic5596
      @thesoloistic5596 Před 2 lety +1

      I think you did the math wrong, but you got the right answer.

  • @joehartman1735
    @joehartman1735 Před 7 lety +2

    The question does Capital Punishment Work? The issue should be the laws broken against the public such as murder of our children, elderly and our Law Enforcement Offices. Innocent people that have died in the commission of crimes for the should purpose of doing away from innocent people that are able to incriminate them in a crime.
    Who is gong to speak for those in this case? Many men, women and children have died for a number of different reasons for no other reason of not taking accountability for ones actions. It's not a matter of right or wrong, it's a matter of this behavior should and will not be tolerated in our society.

  • @VincentMartin93
    @VincentMartin93 Před rokem +1

    Don't think they need to abolish the death penalty. If anything, they need to bring back the electric chair and crucifixion.

  • @jessicah3450
    @jessicah3450 Před 2 lety

    The truly evil people can afford lawyers who will keep them out of prison. As long as our justice system is as broken as it is, we don't need the death penalty.

  • @sexydudeuk2172
    @sexydudeuk2172 Před 2 lety +1

    killing them wont bring back the people they've killed. Plus they'll suffer more if you let them live as jail is absolute hell and killing them you're giving them a ticket to escape that hell.

    • @satwindr_sing
      @satwindr_sing Před 2 lety +2

      if no one deserves the penalty then the people will keep doing these kinds of heinous crimes and be carefree because of no strict punishments. They should fear before committing such things.

  • @chbrules
    @chbrules Před 9 lety +12

    No one deserves death at the hands of another. Murdering someone for punishment is an absurd, archaic, and inhumane notion. There is absolutely no positive quality about capital punishment.

    • @harlempunk4481
      @harlempunk4481 Před 7 lety +3

      But what is worst? Criminals killing innocent people or innocent people killing criminals?

    • @roguenation
      @roguenation Před 7 lety

      Televise executions so they can be viewed by the public at large. This was a major rationale for public executions in earlier centuries, and it makes a great deal of sense. Surely the deterrent effects of capital punishment will be enhanced if people can actually witness the death of a murderer.
      Make the execution of a criminal long and painful, to the point where it would horrify and thereby deter spectators. Again, this was the point of some earlier methods of execution, such as roasting heretics over a slow fire (it could take 30 minutes or more for the criminal to die), or the process of drawing and disemboweling a criminal, as dramatically and accurately portrayed in the movie _Braveheart._

    • @chbrules
      @chbrules Před 7 lety +2

      Prexto Rex + roguenation: What's worse, being a hypocritical murderer yourself, or trying to rehabilitate, if not simply remove murderers from society? You're complicit in murder if you support capital punishment.
      It costs literal hundreds of millions of dollars and decades of time (on top of the prison expenses) to finally go through with capital punishment. It is not shown to be a deterrent to crime either. Just because you believe it so doesn't make it so.
      An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.

    • @harlempunk4481
      @harlempunk4481 Před 7 lety +1

      +chbrules that's true. It may not deter crimes within a country significantly but it sure does stop other people from other countries committing a crime on the said country. For example, drug related crimes in Indonesia will be an instant execution. In the Philippines there is no death penalty and for this reason, drugs are easily imported from other countries like China, Russia and Mexico.

    • @roguenation
      @roguenation Před 7 lety

      Professor Cass Sunstein proposed in “Is Capital Punishment Morally Required: The Relevance of Life-Life Tradeoffs” that if the series of nonideological studies done in the last decade are right, then having a death penalty spares between 10 and 24 innocent victims of murder. How can we abandon indisputably innocent men, women, and children to homicide?
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  • @RE-jj2mr
    @RE-jj2mr Před 2 lety +2

    Death penalty for life 👍

  • @petercederstrand2044
    @petercederstrand2044 Před 3 lety +5

    I hope for the anti Death Penalty organisations to succeed in their work!!! "Let love rule" (Lenny Kravitz)

    • @yogalover2753
      @yogalover2753 Před 2 lety

      I agree because even if that person did something unforgivable, we still shouldn't take that person's life because it makes us murderers too.

    • @KOLUKULU
      @KOLUKULU Před 2 lety

      @@yogalover2753 🤣🤣

  • @caistuart2121
    @caistuart2121 Před 9 lety +1

    yes!

  • @arumba7345
    @arumba7345 Před 3 lety

    The answer is that a deserving is a personal perspective.

  • @prabhdeepdhahan1147
    @prabhdeepdhahan1147 Před 6 měsíci

    The answer is yes.

  • @pikachu8508
    @pikachu8508 Před 7 lety +8

    I prefer death penalty over life sentence. Why should we pay tax just to keep those horrible criminals alive? Imagine my family member was murdered and the murderer only gets life sentence, I would be very upset and frustrated.
    IMO Those are crimes that should carry the death penalty:
    Murder(mandatory death penalty)
    Involving in terror related activities(mandatory death penalty)
    Hijacking/piracy(mandatory death penalty)
    Hostage taking(mandatory death penalty)
    Child rape
    Kidnapping
    Large scale white collar crimes
    Corruption involving government officials
    Drug trafficking
    And for those think death penalty is murder:
    IT IS NOT MURDER, IT'S JUSTICE.

    • @videos10
      @videos10 Před 7 lety +4

      well financially speaking, since you mentioned American tax payers, ironically, it costs more to put someone down than to keep the prisoner incarcerated for a life term sentence

    • @pikachu8508
      @pikachu8508 Před 7 lety +1

      I would rather to see the money goes to execution of certain criminals than keeping them alive at expanse of tax payers

    • @videos10
      @videos10 Před 7 lety

      Okay I see your point, but more than anything, your point is not about finance, because in financely, it costs more to legally kill someone than to keep them alive, so if anything, your view is on setting the score even with the criminal? Right.

    • @videos10
      @videos10 Před 7 lety +1

      And wouldn't you think, it is of a harder punishment to keep them alive and deprive them of liberty and pursuit of happinness... If they are dead, the hell are they gonna suffer?

    • @pikachu8508
      @pikachu8508 Před 7 lety +2

      I don't think they would suffer much behind bars, They don't have to pay for foods and even healthcare, All those at expanse of the government. Furthermore life without parole inmates might still be able to escape or commit murder again. Death penalty is the only punishment that keeps criminal from committing more murders.Also in UK, there's another problem, murder doesn't always warrant a whole life order(equivalent to US life without parole), those criminals would become eligible for parole hearing after serving the minimum time, they would be granted parole/good behavior release if successful, and that is an insult for those who are family members of the murder victim.

  • @NaturelDeese
    @NaturelDeese Před 7 lety +3

    Bring it back now!!!!

  • @tinotendamandizvidza1903
    @tinotendamandizvidza1903 Před 3 lety +1

    The death penalty is revenge, how come people celebrate when the inmate gets executed, because they wanted revenge executioners are bad people how can you have such a job

    • @yogalover2753
      @yogalover2753 Před 2 lety

      Exactly because yes I get these people did something unforgivable, but we still shouldn't take their life because that makes us murderers too.