WHY I QUIT MY PHARMACIST JOB
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
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i quit my job as a pharmacist....
i wanted to give you guys some insight as to why i quit my hospital pharmacist job
i also wanted to elaborate on my journey to finding my new job
hopefully this can be helpful to fellow pharmacists, pharmacy students, or really anyone that is looking to change their career or quit their job.
we should all live life to the fullest, and my new motto is work to live, not live to work!
hope you enjoy this video :) thanks for watching!
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00:00 I quit my job
00:42 Why I became a pharmacist and how i chose pharmacy
01:25 My path through pharmacy school
01:43 My start at retail pharmacy and the problems with retail pharmacy
02:51 1st pharmacist job in retail pharmacy and struggles in retail pharmacy
04:34 Moving onto hospital pharmacy
05:10 Wanting a remote wfh job
06:45 Why i quit my job
07:29 My journey switching pharmacy careers
09:20 My new job
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Great content Michelle, yes I quit my as an RN last years after almost 17 years in the field. It was not an easy decision, but life is too short to dread going to work everyday. No amount of money can buy real happiness, but friends I'm not asking you to resign from your job or abandon your business but be wise!
Wow I’m sure your patients really appreciated your work for 17 years! And YES to the last sentence!
Yes I don't really like my job but I love what it provides for me and my family. This pandemic has people rethinking working
What do you do now and how did you plan yourself before quitting?
@@riccardogiuseppe6635 right now I run my own business and While I was still in service I planned towards early retirement, making about 3k weekly from my retirement investment portfolio trying so much to build more side hustles and extra income
Wow impressive! You're making quite a fortune speaking of investing I have heard many people talk about it but I don't really know how to start can you explain?
I left the profession after 11 years in both hospital and retail (in Sept. 2000)--the pharmacist who replaced me at a hospital pharmacy committed suicide due to job stress! I am now teaching at the college level and love it!
That’s horrible, but I’m glad you found your place.
i'm so sorry that that happened. so glad you are loving your job now though!
This was very refreshing. I love to hear and see other pharmacist making efforts to take charge of their career and not settle for the toxic environments that the retail space as created and forced on us as professionals. I especially like your description of the inhumane expectations thrusted upon us working without lunch, water, or sometimes bathroom breaks. These big box chains are simply factories and they put such a stressful strain on us that even our patients are under the assumption that it is absurd that the pharmacy should be closed for lunch. I've owned my own store for 13 years and have been out of the loop as far as the job market is concerned. My stores where heavily patient care based providing diabetes training, free delivery, compliance services and so much more. Insurance payments decreased and breaking even wasn't even happening anymore. So I recently sold my stores and was in a predicament where I needed a job and had no choice but to accept one of these retail positions. I was traumatized from the experience. I, like you only lasted 3 months. Every night I came home applying for a WFH opportunity. I finally was selected for a great opportunity and I'm hoping that my experience will be enjoyable. Thank you for sharing your experience it has helped me to prepare for what I should expect in my new position. Sorry for long message but you really inspired me. Good luck in your future endeavors please continue to share!
Thank you for making such a transparent video. Some pharmacy work environments are very challenging. We always say to find a career that matches your personal goals!
Thank you so much for taking us through your process!! I’ve been thinking of switching of careers because I felt like I was working to live and you’re right, it’s not the way to live life!!
omg Celeste! ☺️ thank you for your support! it’s definitely worth a thought! how long have you been thinking of switching your career?
Thank you so much for sharing your experience . This is so helpful for a pharmacy student to have a insight on what life is like as a pharmacist. Thank you for your vlurnability. I looking forward to watch more of your video
Congrats to you Michelle ! For being strong and bold enough to realize a bad situation and leave early. I bounced around and was mistreated by retail after retail pharmacy for 6 years and I will never EVER go back. In nevada we waive our rights. Would work 12-14 hour shifts sometimes longer as a manager and wouldn't have time to eat or drink or go to the bathroom doing 400-500 scripts a day with 3 techs and 1 pharmacist. I would eat 2 snickers and 2 mountain dews; per shift. Which of course the company accused me of stealing, twice. Why would I steal a dollar drink when I am the manager and making X amount. My physical health went to shift. Knee and foot pains from standing for 12-14 hours with no chair. Constant stress and harassments from patients who had no idea how much work I had or what I had to do. Worked 5 to 10 hours extra each week being a manager having to work after my shift. If I could go back I would file a lawsuit against every one of these companies. Lawyers tell me it's illegal what they are doing about waiving lunches. I still have mild ptsd from it and anxiety stress attacks and hard to cope in normal jobs because I feel like I need to be doing more and not able to relax.
thank you so much! wow waived your rights? retail really affected me when i was in it as well. cheese curls for dinner were the usual for me haha. it sounds like you have found a different job to work, and that's great! i hope you have found a job that you like, and a job that you feel comfortable in! thanks so much for sharing your story :)
I graduated and was licensed as a Pharmacist in 1978. I am retired now but my working career as a Pharmacist was 44 years of torment. I am happy & glad that the younger graduates have the courage and are getting out when they can. Even though the chains are stating that things are better they are not. Corporate chain management are flat out right lying to Pharmacist and you.
Its super cool that even though you didnt have a good experience initially with retail you still found a way to branch out in pharmacy in a way that makes you happy!
So true Karina! It’s all about the journey and getting here was not easy. I knew I could reach this point, it was just a matter of the amount of risk I was willing to tolerate and the amount of faith I was willing to put in myself and my journey!
I echo every word you said and when you said they "rescued" you, omg that's exactly how I felt when I landed my hospital job, coincidentally also an evening position. I lasted 10 months and I should've jumped the ship long before that. I was ready to give up pharmacy altogether but thank god I found my current job. Thinking back, I was sinking into depression. At the end of the 10 months I was crying every week and broke down over the tiniest things. When they rolled out the 30-minute lunch break thing, my friends and I (P4s at the time I believe) were celebrating like it was a privilege LOL ridiculous.
Retail will kill your soul, mind, body. I could go on for hours. You did the right thing.
ABR-anything but retail I’ve worked hospital, mail order, a drug information line, and retail.
People look down on mail order (maybe it’s changed) but that was a decent job.
Why retail is bad Iam teck guy but it look decent seating and chilling 😅
Hello Michelle thank you for sharing your thoughts why you quit your job and your journey to find the one that you really like. I agree with you we should all live life to the fullest!
Thank you for always supporting Auralyn! 🥰 Hopefully you are living life to the fullest too! 💖
Congrats Michelle! My Pharm life history is similar to yours! I lasted 3 years in retail (only because it wasn’t a big chain) and then did long term care (don’t work with the public but still dispensing) and that was quite similar to retail. Losing my job right at the beginning of the pandemic was the greatest thing ever as it set me up to get the most miraculous referral into consulting which I can mostly WFH. I absolutely love it since it is still patient care, but with a cat curled up beside me and I Love Radio coming out of my cell phone speakers. It also allowed me to help on the front lines in late 2020 and early 2021 with Covid to keep my social skills in tact 😅 if I get my way, god willing, I will never step back into a pharmacy unless I’m dropping off a script! Especially since I can work from anywhere in the world--
Glad you made it out of misery!
hi davey! i'm so glad you were able to get a consulting position where you can work from home! having the patient care aspect is great, and i'm sure your cat loves you being at home too haha! wow your job sounds like a dream, being able to work from anywhere in the world! sometimes a setback like being laid off like that is really a blessing in disguise. thanks for sharing your story :)
Hi, from Europe here what is is a consultant pharmacist?
@@user-vs8rv6oj1w it’s a job required by our federal insurance program for the elderly. Pharmacist helps the nursing home or hospital nursing and physician staff stay compliant to laws and regulations, helps improve drug regimens, and makes sure the patient actually gets the medications and treatments they need. We create reports for care teams called MRR (Medication Regimen Review) that they must legally file. It’s pretty cool.
@@Aright231 thank you, so is it more on the level of patient care or is it more like administrative/logistics? Is it perhaps a role where your focus is all the farmacotherapy of the elderly? So like medication reviews in community pharmacy, but now you are not distracted with dispensing tasks so you can actually take the time? I am not sure we have something like this in Europe and even if we have I think there’s very few jobs like this
Great video, incredibly helpful !
This was such a good video! I recently just quit my hospital pharmacist job too! Looking for remote options, it’s tough
thank you so much russia! remote is where it's at, definitely. have you had any success with applying to jobs or interviewing?
Wow, my path to pharmacy school was almost identical. Prior to pharmacy, I had a bachelor's and master's in the social sciences. My first major job after grad school was in marketing research but after 6 months there I was fired because I wasn't meeting their expectations. Before jumping into a different career, I wanted to take some time to consider my options and visited my sister out of town for moral support. While I was there I began applying for some temp jobs. My sister was shocked and said that I was selling myself short. Long story slightly less long, she suggested pharmacy because of the good pay, opportunities, sign on bonuses (my sister had an early 2000s idea of what the pharmacy profession was like). But I just ran with it. Over time, I developed my interest in the hard sciences and have grown to really like pharmacy. I'm near the finish line and can't wait to be done, but I have this feeling of emptiness because i started this journey in an avolitional state and remain in a mental fog.
I commend you on how each job you held was a "stepping stone" towards the "next step" up the career ladder. With the 1st full time retail pharmacy job, then moving into a hospital pharmacy position and setting a goal of working from home. Taking advantage of getting a contract position to gain more knowledge and experience. Moving you forward for 1st interviews. And achieving your goal of working from home.
Thank you Theo! I realized I wasn’t aggressive enough as a student in gaining those experiences so I had to take action myself towards that goal!
I only lasted 3 months in retail. I'm in the exact same boat as you!!!! Now looking for anything but retail. Thank you for posting your experience!!!
Bob! 🥺 I’m so happy this video helped you. I am totally in the same boat as you Bob! We both only lasted 3 months in retail, which really speaks volumes about retail pharmacy…. it must be even tougher now with all of the staffing shortages. You got this Bob! I know you’ll find something that’s a good fit for you! 🙏 Anything but retail is the goal. How is the job search going for you?
@@michellejy initially, I thought I can power through this. But facing the volumes and shortage plus there are just so many negativities. I had to quit. I was mentally tired after ~ a 10hr shift!! Now, just throw applications everywhere but retails.
I totally support you! I know it can be scary but I know you will be fine! It is really so tiring and not a way to live honestly. Although there are some rare people that really enjoy retail, more props to them. I know you will find something that matches your goals. Good luck Bob! 😁 Update here when you find something, I’d love to know your journey too!
I am taiwanese,and I lasted 2months in retail . I’m surprised in the beginning that in the states pharmacists in retail don’t have lunch time😂
@@user-ez3cf7dl9m lol yeah... i think they are getting better with providing lunch time though according to some job postings from big retail chains
Thank you for the video, it gave me courage to do what’s best for me. I also quit my job in health care, got a less stressful job while it gives me time to work on my projects. Thank you again
thank you for watching Jackie! I’m so glad you have a less stressful job now! what type of projects do you work on now that you have more time?
@@michellejy I my my own business online customized merchandise loft example making tumblers, T-shirt printing, surgical hats. I do matching bundle surgical hats with tumbler
@@michellejy I also taking classes in a community college
@@hackorhats that's so awesome! i'd love to see your merchandise! do you have a website?
@@hackorhats that's wonderful, good luck with your studies :)
I've been in retail 9 years. I don't think anyone would understand how it is until they've worked as rph in big chain. I am so happy for ur courage to change career. I hope to do so soon!
Thank you! You got this!
The past couple years I've been taking courses to either do medical lab or pharmacy school. After working as a pharmacy technician and taking micro this semester, I know now that I want to make the switch out of healthcare completely. I love science but I don't want to be the one in charge of people's lives. I would rather screw up on an excel sheet than screw up on a detail for someone's health and harm them.
I quit being a pharmacy technician after 10 years, and I never regretted it ..and yes we def didn’t get a 30- min lunch break when I first started out
Hi Michelle, I'm a p4 who is graduating in May and I just found that managed care is really the field I am trying to get into as a Pharmacist. Im working in retail however it's not what I want to do long term and I feel like aside from the money, its almost wasting my time in terms of career goals.
I didn't do any rotation in managed care and it seems as all the residency programs are all basically matched. Is there a way I can contact you to ask a few questions about contracting with insurance companies? Thank You!
I guess I'm the only happy Pharmacist. Pay is good for sure. Yeah, it's boring as heck at times. I take my time doing my work when it's busy . No rushing like a madman just to make mistakes. If someone does NOT like that then they can go ____ OFF! Not everyone can do that as they need their jobs but if one saves their money from a young age then they can quit, go somewhere else or just early retirement. Or just take it slow no matter how much business the pharmacy is doing.
you Are amazing thanks for guidance as a 2nd year pharm D student I really need to explore some pros and cons of every Particular pharmacy job ...I love anything related research ! any idea about research field as a pharmacist ?
hi there! you're welcome :) the research world is huge! i wish i had done some more exploration on that side of pharmacy. there are tons of opportunities like clinical research associates, research pharmacists in clinical trial services, a lot of hospitals have investigational drug research pharmacist jobs and there's so much more! since you are a student, i would definitely take advantage of your free time and energy to look into doing internships with pharmaceutical companies or cro companies. even reaching out to professors to see if they need help with any of their research would be a great step in the right direction too :)
I wasn’t a pharamcist but a pharmacy tech and finally quit retail after 1.5 years, best decision I ever made! lol 😂
Hi Michelle! Thanks for sharing your story; I took a contract position with a managed care company after 5 years in retail, and the contract ended after 3 months. Since then, I've struggled to find a new position; do you have any advice or input for where to look and how to leverage 3 months of managed care experience? Thank you for your time!
hi Michelle! wow our experience sounds so similar. my contract ended after 3 months as well. i know 3 months doesn't seem like a lot, but you actually gained some valuable experience. i would really showcase that in your resume. i would also stalk the linkedin jobs search page, and turn on notifications for linkedin and indeed. once i saw new job postings, i would jump on it immediately and apply. i've applied to literally 100s of jobs per week. unfortunately with the competitiveness of the market, you have to really put in a lot of different applications. how many jobs have you applied to? and have you been getting any interviews at all?
@@michellejy Thanks for getting back to me! I job searched a lot while I was at my previous job (retail) so I had an idea for how tough the market was. I hadn't prepared for the contract to end so suddenly, as they had recruited many people and trained us for 6 weeks and we ended up only getting to work for a bit over a month after that. I am on indeed, glassdoor, and linkedin a lot; I would say so far linkedin seems the most informative and well organized. I've been applying to about 20 jobs per week, and feeling discouraged, but compared to 100, 20 doesn't seem like a lot! I'll try to step up my application game :) I also really enjoyed remote work through my contract so hopefully that opens up more job opportunities nationwide.
yeah i totally get that. although it is a "job searcher's market" it's also so so competitive right now which almost cancels that out. linkedin is where i found most of my job applications as well. 20 is still a good amount and a really good start! and yes once i started working remotely wfh, i really can't imagine going in again. good luck with everything michelle! with your effort, i'm sure you will find that job that you love. please update me in the future! :)
Question: did u take a salary cut working for insurance company?
I’m almost at the end of my 1 year fellowship position in academia and I don’t have any jobs lined up after this. I have a flex pharmacist position interview tomorrow at a regional supermarket. Not even sure how that will end up. I’m anxious because I have to start paying loans in the summer.
Oh wow a fellowship position in academia? I think that can line you up for any kind of pharmacist job. I could see your experience being valuable in Pharma or in managed care. Would you ever think about staying in academia?
Yes I walked away on January 27th 2022 after 30 rough years working mostly in the retail setting! There was always a problem with little to no help. Free at last free at last! 😊
good for you rickey! where do you work now?
@@michellejy I sometimes every now and then work for a temporary pharmacy placement agency. I pick where I am going to work and that consists of easy independent pharmacies. As a result, I have been planning my bucket list to travel, see live plays, walking and exercising and visiting friends and family. Thanks for responding and happy new year 🎊 Subscribed!
that sounds like a great gig! and thank you, happy new year to you as well!
I recently did the same thing! Definitely was not an easy decision to make and I feel the same sentiments as you. I made a video to document that as well :)
hi Mimi! I just checked out your video! good to know we have the same sentiments! hope to stay connected :)
Thanks for sharing your story, am currently a 4th year pharmacy student in Cyprus(Turkey side) one more year to go. i really am looking forward to practicing fulltime. can anyone please recommend series, books, news letters, social platforms, movies etc that is solely base on the profession of pharmacy that I can still learn from and get to know more about pharmacy.
that's awesome! you got this! i really like pharmacist's letter but there is a subscription fee. you can use powerpak too which is free! those are both great resources
Hi I have not had any luck finding remote jobs was wondering what they look for if you have no experience in pbm?
hi uzma! i think they look for leadership experience or actual pbm experience. if you're not in a leadership role, i would suggest highlighting your leadership qualities or projects you've completed in your resume that may showcase some of those skills. if you're really committed to making the transition, contract jobs are a good place to start as well, although they may be temporary and don't always guarantee a conversion to full time.
@@michellejy thanks your story inspired me so much I recently got a job offer for prn with a company that offers work from home opportunities however the department is different and the line of work is different. I am not sure if the risk is worth it but I am not getting luck anywhere else momentarily.
could you work your full time job and also PRN on the side? that way you don't have to take such a large risk of quitting your full time job? that could be a tactic to try it out, get your feet wet, and then hopefully jump into a full time position if it opens up!?
Im in the pharmacy program and hate the school/ program. Im debating if I want to quit 😢
It makes me unhappy
I just quite my retailed job too
I see your comment on my other video! congrats on becoming a prior authorization pharmacist 🎉
Calculus made me quit trying to be a Pharmacist… I’m Just a pharm tech now for almost 20 years…n
Calculus is really difficult! Wow that is a lot of years! I really respect pharmacy technicians. Pharmacies cannot function without you.
The crazy part for me is I left law enforcement to do this. And the fact that a lunch break is supposed to be an incentive sound like the same environment. 🤣🤣🤣 But here we are getting thru it. Im sure the job I want will come along that let's me have freedom and a lunch break.
Retail is whack
Better to work on a plantation than in retail pharmacy these days...😀
I was looking into Nursing and Pharmacy Technician. But im leaning more towards nursing😮😮
nursing is a great field! and travel nursing is in demand right now too!
As a Pharmacy Technician, I would think that this job would be much more smoother than nursing. I heard many horror stories about nursing. I just hope if you do nursing, it's not true on what I've heard about it.
Go with nursing please, pharmacy is just sad unless you really love it.
@@semharghebremeskel3741 why?
Nursing is not so great either… especially if you work in the hospital. In a clinic it’s a lot better.
Long story short are you happy now with your new position ?!
yes I am! :)
@@michellejy Good to know. =]
Would you recommend Pharmacy or something else?
Youll survive if you find a store that does 200 scripts or less per day.
You can do pharmacy but make sure you look towards multiple pathways (like clinical, industry, PBM, etc), not just retail. Also work in retail as a tech/intern throughout pharmacy school.
What math do you use in pharmacy?
Math 55
That should read " an hour and a half" (useless Kindle keyboard)
Why did you even go to Pharmacy School and you can’t hang in retail or inpatient pharmacy? Waste of time, money and effort. 🤪🤪🤪
that is a good question lol. i don't necessarily think it's a waste, since i love helping patients and enjoy my job now. it's been a journey but i am satisfied :)
Maybe because just like school, they don’t actually teach you what happens in the real world. They just talk about how much money you make.
You got to understand that school literally just show you what you need to do as a Pharmacist. They do not show the parts of the retail pharmacy that can get hectic at times.
There’s always retail if you just absolutely need a job.
retail pharmacy has gone down the drain it’s not the same 10-20 years ago. It even affects your physical and mental health. Independent pharmacy is better than chain Pharmacy’s