CONTEXT is Important. The Lore of SOMA!

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    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro
    03:20 After The Scan
    08:32 The Comet
    18:12 Into The Abyss
    29:45 Carl/Amy
    37:21 Simon/Sarah
    41:43 The WAU/Final Thoughts
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Komentáře • 306

  • @TiptoeTheTank
    @TiptoeTheTank  Před 3 lety +50

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    • @bathhatingcat8626
      @bathhatingcat8626 Před 2 lety +1

      Copy and paste violates quantum mechanics

    • @Rhino-Prime
      @Rhino-Prime Před 2 lety

      I killed everybody except the wau now my reasoning was because these people were effectively in data loops they were either unable to recognize what they were or we're just stuck in a loop of consistently thinking they're in one spot with the only 2 exceptions being the 2 humans I meet both of which I killed out of mercy do the fact the 1 at the trams is effectively stuck, her heart and lungs have clearly been damaged and let's just say there's not gonna be any donors available With the one in the abyss well I rather let our species die out if there's only 1 of us left then watched that 1 left suffer slowly. My reason for sparing the wau though Was because it clearly showed the ability to learn The reason I noticed this was because I found a human body but it wasn't an organic one it was 1 that had completely robotic internal organs that look like they were being developed. My other reason for this belief that it can learn is the fact that you don't deal with the same type of monster twice they're very 1st when you meet clearly has a Understanding of what it's doing as if you listen to audio files you can hear it say shut up while it kills someone behind a door Implying that there is a consciousness there but it has gone insane as Catherine States because it has no other way of perceiving the world as it is now. The next one is The corrupted helper unit that clearly knows what's going on around it but it's just looking for areas to get more structure jail structure gel which as it says it's a thirsty which could imply that its low on power due to its flashing lights. If you consider Catherine a monster as well she's clearly a more successful iteration due to the fact that she's aware of what she has and where she is but isn't driven insane because of it. The wound has clearly shown it has an ability to learn hence why I spirit since it knows what it's doing when it comes to humanity it's learning as it goes along doing a classic human move of trial-and-error till you get it right.

    • @SephirothinLEGO
      @SephirothinLEGO Před 8 měsíci

      if you want to check out a much happier version of a story like this then i would highly recommend the bobiverse books by dennis e. taylor, "we are legion (we are bob)" is one of my favourite light sci-fi stories.

  • @ghastlygrapher
    @ghastlygrapher Před 2 lety +250

    Poor Simon. I feel like he is repressing the truth, subconsciously forcing himself to misunderstand. It's something I think would happen to me. Coping by misunderstanding.

    • @tylerbaldwin3269
      @tylerbaldwin3269 Před 2 lety +27

      Right? It's easier to "misunderstand" and blame others for your situation rather than accept your fate. With everything going on, it might also be easier to be mad and upset, rather than fully acknowledge that you basically sent a copy of your brain to an Eden, while you, in your body, were left to exist in a crumbling ruin, likely the last soul aboard beneath the sea

    • @trevor3013
      @trevor3013 Před 2 lety +5

      Well his scan is a basic incomplete scan. It's possible he doesn't even know better

    • @DiscoTimelordASD
      @DiscoTimelordASD Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@trevor3013 True. He was the first scan.
      A scan that was done on older technology too, so we have no idea how primitive his scan was by comparison to everyone else's.

    • @everythingpony
      @everythingpony Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@DiscoTimelordASD not only that, he also was in a car crash and has brain damage so he's a prototype brain damaged legacy scan, so of course he's going to be a little misunderstanding

  • @bandygamy5898
    @bandygamy5898 Před 2 lety +194

    SOMA is without doubt the most creative and best executed use of sci-fi in horror ever

  • @3beyondthesun3
    @3beyondthesun3 Před 3 lety +223

    SOMA managed to struck a perfect balance between telling a meaningful story with philosophical themes, questions about existence, AND evoking feelings like sense of dread, horror, isolation and loneliness in the player by making the game world as immersive as it is. The amount of lore and fantastic world building here deserves nothing but praise.
    It wasn't scary like Amnesia, yes, but I think that was exactly by design. A lot of people judged this game after Amnesia that the monster encounters are less scary, but for me in this case, the horror came from it's physical world and the environment itself (coupled with the story): it managed to invoke those aformentioned feelings in me that made me uneasy, but at the same time, it made me appreciate it even more. For example, there is a very detailed descending sequence in the game that straight up almost invoke thalassophobia in me, it was that perfectly executed :)
    In today's "made-for-youtube-jumpscare" horror game releases, this game was a breath of fresh air and a unique gem that focused on the world building and story before everything else.

    • @jaymantisgaming
      @jaymantisgaming Před rokem +3

      yeah i agree. its a game that appeals to any intellect. a deep thinker will love the philosophical aspect. a simpleton will just get a kick out of the horror/chase scenes. if they happen to click onto some of the deeper themes then great but its not essential for a good time. i love a good existential crisis but i also love a good sphincter-clenching chase sequence haha. regardless, thats how you do a game right

    • @LuciferHunter-kt7pm
      @LuciferHunter-kt7pm Před měsícem

      Totally agree!

  • @nealjustus9500
    @nealjustus9500 Před 2 lety +77

    the bigest mistake the company made when they learned that the earth was going to die was double down on their ai projects, instead of sending down something to help sustain them, like an algae farm, or something to that effect.

  • @yeet1337
    @yeet1337 Před 2 lety +115

    To be fair, Amy said "It won't let me die" which sounds an awful lot like she *wants* to finally rest in peace.

  • @Toirneachgames
    @Toirneachgames Před 2 lety +41

    As an acute care nurse, the Sarah Lindwall encounter stroke a deep cord in me. The scene was incredibly just in its writing and almost brought me to tears.

  • @robertschaffer596
    @robertschaffer596 Před 3 lety +51

    This game has one of the best stories in gaming history. If not THE best. I literally cried at the end and was constantly in a strange conflict of emotions during the game. This game is an emotional horror game. Not a traditional scarry one.

  • @Dwed746
    @Dwed746 Před 3 lety +73

    The thing that SOMA left with me is, if you are alone and I mean *TRULY* alone, your worst enemy is yourself. With perhaps the exception of Catherine, the only person that can judge you or your actions (Or I guess Simon's actions), is yourself and depending on who you are that can be worse then any amount of condemnation from another person.

    • @GeorgeTsiros
      @GeorgeTsiros Před 6 měsíci

      Well, if you are alone as you say, there is nobody else. There's only _you_ . Therefore, you are at the same time your own best friend and your own worst enemy. So uh yeah :|

  • @Proto-Martyr
    @Proto-Martyr Před 2 lety +69

    On my second playthrough, I decided not to kill Carl, Simon 2, Sarah and the WAU because I knew Simon 3 would be left behind. I thought that maybe Simon 3 would try to go back to the other stations and help them, so they wouldn't be alone. They could try to heal Carl and Sarah, fix one of the stations (technology seems to still work, so they could use the helper robots to restore a station and make new technology), form a small community and maybe Simon 3 could restore Catherine and make more Simons.

    • @WarriorWOLF13
      @WarriorWOLF13 Před 2 lety +16

      This is a fast track to vault 108 "Simon" "Simon" "Hahaha Simon"

    • @jewishfloppa6969
      @jewishfloppa6969 Před 2 lety +22

      Actually, I think there is no way out of the abyss for Simon 3. Can you remember our long walk from the climber? At the last part of this walk we turned on a little helper robot so he can guide us to Tau cuz there were no lights. So, basically you won't get back to climber because you won't find a right path to it in the darkness and you'll probably end up being killed by WAU monsters. So there is no good ending for Simon 2 if he was left alive :(

    • @MisterJohnDoe
      @MisterJohnDoe Před rokem +2

      Assuming any of the monsters doesn't kill him.

    • @jacksmix7123
      @jacksmix7123 Před 5 měsíci

      @@WarriorWOLF13 Siiiiimmmoooooooon!?

  • @Mach2style
    @Mach2style Před 3 lety +157

    The coin flip will forever be the biggest take away for me in this game. Such an amazing concept

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  Před 3 lety +63

      Ain't it a kick in the teeth, too? For a huge part of the game, we knew tragedy was waiting for whoever wasn't the Ark copy. But watching the left-behind Simon have the realization that he didn't make it on the Ark was tough.

    • @gamesthatmatter9374
      @gamesthatmatter9374 Před 2 lety +11

      @@TiptoeTheTank its a copy lol .there are 2 Simons and game switched perspective to the one left behind . there is no REAL simon

    • @dementedavenger2784
      @dementedavenger2784 Před 2 lety +7

      @@gamesthatmatter9374 Who said it was a real Simon? What is real anyway?

    • @Kris-wo4pj
      @Kris-wo4pj Před 2 lety +10

      @@gamesthatmatter9374 there was a real simon but he died. Its a what is a soul concept of philosophy that makes this game fun

    • @AGrumpyWitch
      @AGrumpyWitch Před 2 lety +16

      @@arturoarturovich4773 Yeah this. You can't "win". The copy lives on after you copy it. You never swap to the copy.
      Same kind of vibe as The Prestige.

  • @SlashCrash_Studios
    @SlashCrash_Studios Před rokem +7

    I take "It won't let me die, Nothing is allowed to die" as a lamentation. She wants to die, but can't.

  • @jimking1444
    @jimking1444 Před 2 lety +16

    I feel there is a fundamental difference between being alive and "living". What good is years of maddening loneliness left not knowing what went wrong, why was I chosen to be alone? Left as the sole "survivor", left alone forever in a cold deep unforgiving world. It is human nature to search for company, comfort in any form. A human isn't human without others in some form, and as sad as it is sometimes true death is the only truth there is.

    • @jimking1444
      @jimking1444 Před 2 lety

      *addition* I realized this has been proven even more given the past pandemic. People were forcibly separated and in lue of face to face interaction, people found new ways to connect with other humans. Video chat became the new norm if only for a short while given human history. People dove into virtual reality to try to garner that feeling of human to human interaction regardless of their digital forms. Humanity has always found a way to have human interaction but it only truly works if there is more than just one sole "person" left.

  • @yeet1337
    @yeet1337 Před 2 lety +31

    Wow that's an incredibly well-made video covering all the events in SOMA from the start to the end! Thought it had *waaay* more views than just 5000. Damn, good job, really!

  • @oSlig
    @oSlig Před 2 lety +16

    I appreciated the tension in the lines between Simon and Cath, when starting the descent after taking the new body, which dissolved when they shared personal memories with each other. In general, I really like how the story and the characters develop as the game progresses.
    My mind started to associate Cath and Simon with reason and emotions during their quarrels. On the one hand, it may feel wrong of Simon to care only about his own qualia and not about experience of his other equally valuable versions. Like Cath said, “we” were sent to ARK after all and we saved the humanity along the way.
    On the other hand, we were not doing ourselves a favor per se because “they’re not us” as Simon accurately puts it. Mental states can be copy-pasted but not your self-experience (in the game universe). So it may feel like we did something completely altruistic by achieving nothing for ourselves and everything for “others” who are totally unrelated to us now.
    In terms of horror, I dig the style when throughout the game the protagonist discovers consequences of already occurred horrible events as we dive deeper into the worst while expecting or hoping for the best.

  • @MRconfusedboy
    @MRconfusedboy Před 2 lety +8

    even if i play this game a hundred times i wouldnt be able to tell its story the way you did, i don't know how you managed to collect all this details and put it together, this is just so beautiful

  • @existentity3476
    @existentity3476 Před 2 lety +14

    I would love a sequel to this game where on the Ark, something was causing glitches that manifest as some kind of monsters from their subconscious (like in the movie Sphere) -- and if you're not careful, you'll be hunted. While trying to keep a low, friendly profile, you notice strange messages in the Ark, but they're either in a language you don't understand, or the information is too scrambled to make sense of. Over time it becomes increasingly difficult to avoid detection, so you find yourself running for your "life".
    Ultimately, aliens have discovered the Ark, which had been floating through space for 50,000 years -- having lost power like after only 1,000 years. The process of powering the Ark back on, which no one on the Ark even realized had happened, scrambled all of the information, melding personalities together and causing their fears to manifest as threats to one another. Before the aliens can restabilize the information, you (and others) need to avoid the increasing danger of other people's manifest terrors.
    You survive, of course, and once you are extracted into a new physical body (thanks to the aliens) you find out how long you'd been floating through space. You tell the aliens about the planet you're from, what happened to it, and that you'd like to know what happened after all these years. That could make for an interesting 3rd installment...

  • @eringoblah
    @eringoblah Před 2 lety +15

    I just finished this and I'm finding all the analyses of this great game. I personally felt pretty good about the ending. We got our copies on the Ark, and like Catherine said, I felt happy for them, and proud that we'd done something pretty great to save something of humanity. It's as much of a legacy as anything. Seeing Simon on the Ark was reassuring to me, giving me closure that it worked and wasn't all for nothing.

  • @batboyshark
    @batboyshark Před 3 lety +12

    Absolutely best video I've found on Soma I've found discussing the entire lore condensed.
    SUBSCRIBED!!

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  Před 3 lety +2

      Thank you very much! That's an immense compliment.

    • @batboyshark
      @batboyshark Před 3 lety +1

      @@TiptoeTheTank No thank you! :D I'm currently driving cross country and have downed about 5 of your videos so far. I'll be done with all your content before the road trip ends. Keep up the amazing work!!

  • @joshuabondurant456
    @joshuabondurant456 Před 2 lety +15

    I don't really think there's good or bad ending here I think it's just people making choices that they think we're right at the time.

  • @damiancrowley569
    @damiancrowley569 Před 3 lety +12

    I love this game, truly. I've beat it a handful of times since I got it in 2015. I had just started my existential crisis stage in life, and thankfully this game helped ease me all the way overboard, and for weeks later I wasn't sure if anything was real and almost convinced myself I was in a synthetic purgatory. This game's more than an ambitious and interesting horror game. It's an amazing introspection into the meaning of reality and existence and exactly what a solid horror experience should be.
    Edit: Autocorrect fail

  • @buntado6
    @buntado6 Před 2 lety +4

    Soma doesn't scare you with monsters, it horrifies you with it's choices.

  • @deviateedits
    @deviateedits Před 2 lety +21

    Such a great analysis of my all-time favourite game and story. You've earned yourself a sub!

  • @PythonSnake
    @PythonSnake Před 6 měsíci

    What a great analysis of what it feels like to play a story, that thing that only videogames can do. With SOMA I loved that I played right into Simon's point of view, and when I reached the end I also felt like "off course, they have been saying that it's copies throughout the whole game, why on Earth did I actually believe I would get to go?" It felt like a twist that had been hiding in plain sight from the beggining (if hiding at all). And it worked not because it was unexpected but because it was the culmination of the theme-conflict that we've been exploring all along. What a (relatively) quiet little master piece. And your video totally does it honor.

  • @23dimensions
    @23dimensions Před rokem +3

    After 2 years it's still the best analysis of Soma that I've seen

  • @Owdaks
    @Owdaks Před 3 lety +11

    Wish you the best for your channel, loving those vids. It's nice to have something else than an overdramatic deep voice trying to be creepy.

  • @ZaphodJan
    @ZaphodJan Před 2 lety +7

    This video is pure gold, buried in the desert of CZcams algorithm

    • @ZaphodJan
      @ZaphodJan Před 2 lety

      The least I can do is to leave a like and subscribe!

  • @pravda9646
    @pravda9646 Před 2 lety +9

    Insane production value, this popped up on autoplay and I expected it to come from a channel with 300k subscribers. I usually avoid small channels like the plague (sue me 🤷🏽‍♂️) but this was really captivating.

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  Před 2 lety +4

      Thank you for giving it a chance! And for the kind words

  • @MaraPetersonartists_reverie

    OMG i am forever going to use this, "what would the consequences be if you took a dump under their windshield wipers?" FOREVER, best analogy EVER

  • @vazzeg
    @vazzeg Před 2 lety +2

    This is one of the most beautiful videos I listened to on CZcams. I was doing some calligraphy and put it on because I loved SOMA to the ends of the Earth and I had to stop several times because this video is just like SOMA: haunting and beautiful. Thank you.

  • @Bobicus5
    @Bobicus5 Před 2 lety +5

    If you leave the WAU alive, I would love to see how it could evolve itself.
    With help from the brainscans it has, it would be neat to explore it retaking the surface.

  • @sylvan_sprites
    @sylvan_sprites Před 2 lety +4

    Hi! Big fan of your stuff! You mentioned in one bit of this video that a woman from TAU managed to get ahold of a tether and make her way back to the surface. I sort of want to look more into that, so if you know more about it, I'd be hella grateful!

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  Před 2 lety +5

      Hi there, and thanks for checking out the content! The old SOMA site by Frictional has some great extra stories/info!
      That particular story is here: somagame.com/item-4540.html

    • @sylvan_sprites
      @sylvan_sprites Před 2 lety

      @@TiptoeTheTank Thank you!!!

  • @Tinyuvm
    @Tinyuvm Před 2 lety +1

    Never played myself, but this Lore always gets me reflecting on the concept of what is a soul

  • @dazlao2155
    @dazlao2155 Před 2 lety +4

    This is wonderfully laid out. just makes me wonder what could've happened if this were made into a fully fledged film series

    • @Kittenheelxoxo
      @Kittenheelxoxo Před 2 lety

      I think it would be great for a show honestly

  • @ima-monsta2255
    @ima-monsta2255 Před 3 lety +1

    I love soma!!! I speed run it from time to time! Great work I’m enjoying these lore videos, keep it up!

  • @nothing-kf4uc
    @nothing-kf4uc Před 2 lety +2

    Congrats, incredible thorough analysis, you really went so deep into the details of it.

  • @msmelissxo33
    @msmelissxo33 Před 3 lety +8

    This was amazing! I could only watch the playthrough of someone else, I'm a mom who doesn't have a lot of time to game. But I honestly felt for the WOW, it constitutes as a living organism, sentient too. It literally mourned its creator and attempted to bring him back... reminds me of FMA in that sense.

    • @thomasjoychild4962
      @thomasjoychild4962 Před 2 lety +2

      It was told to preserve human life but wasn't given a set definition of "preserve" "human" or "life" and had a limited toolset. Given that, it was doing some pretty good work and seemed like it was improving at restoring people.

  • @DiscoTimelordASD
    @DiscoTimelordASD Před 8 měsíci

    The fact Katherine would have non chalantly experimented with Simon's scan as part of her ARC project and KNEW who he was but kept silent about it the whole time is terrifying.

  • @Durandalski
    @Durandalski Před 2 měsíci

    Soma is without a doubt the most brutal and impactful game I have ever played. A horror game where the monsters aren’t that scary, where the real horror is the existential questions and unease created by its world and story. That image of Simon 3 left alone on the bottom of the ocean will haunt me forever.

  • @kchurchjr
    @kchurchjr Před rokem

    I LOVE Soma, I watched too many videos one it. And yours's. Your video is the one I keep returning to.

  • @oblivuke5506
    @oblivuke5506 Před rokem

    damnnn Im subscribed to this channel last month why did i not see this video sooner, this is dope af i loved SOMA because of its lore and philosophical subjects

  • @cu_ri_o
    @cu_ri_o Před dnem

    I know there are way more sad games out there, but this game just gave me the feeling of everything being senseless and depressing. it hit a different part of me that I don't wanna ever wanna touch again.

  • @Astro_BS-AS
    @Astro_BS-AS Před 3 lety +4

    Such a great video... And really evoking of the feelings I did had (and still have) while playing (living?)
    This game truly broke me....

  • @GeorgeTsiros
    @GeorgeTsiros Před 6 měsíci

    during the flashing images at 17:20 you can see some white text. This, is code, specifically written in LISP (or some variant of LISP, there are _many_ ). LISP was used in AI research _a lot_ :D

  • @GeorgeTsiros
    @GeorgeTsiros Před 6 měsíci

    one note to make is that the player controls three entities. The gameplay up until the first, pivotal, scan in Munchi's lab, is the original Simon. Since we're talking about a _scan_ this existence continues on without us. The game continues from the point of view of a scan of Simon's existence (consciousness+memory). This, is a separate entity. It is not a continuation of Simon's _existence_ . Again, when a copy is created for the deep diving suit. At that point, it is the third instance of Simon we control.
    We do not know how many there have been, before the start of the game.

  • @RamenLlama
    @RamenLlama Před 2 lety +6

    Fantastic video, really enjoyed this. Wonderful narration, writing, pacing, timeline, editing, everything. Great job!
    I forgot how fucking painful and bleak this game is. It really is one of the most moving and necessary games I could think to suggest to someone.

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you for the kind words!
      I honestly thought SOMA was just an 'underwater spooky horror' game before I played it. Dead Space and SOMA taught me to not have preconceived notions when going into a new story.

  • @umukzusgelos4834
    @umukzusgelos4834 Před 2 lety

    I like your observations and takes of the themes of SOMA, nice video, wish I would have found it sooner

  • @marciawilliams2499
    @marciawilliams2499 Před 2 lety +2

    Q1: No, I wouldn't want to survive.
    Q2: Carl man, i don't like your sass die painfully bro.
    Q3: End her suffering
    Q4:: Leave him with the battery
    Q5: No i left her
    Q6: I left the wow on
    Last question: Yes

  • @HeatherHolt
    @HeatherHolt Před 4 měsíci

    Such an amazing game. I’ve played it many times over many years and I still think of its bigger themes often.

  • @sylvan_sprites
    @sylvan_sprites Před 3 lety +3

    I have to say, I absolutely adored this video. I've been feeling sick for quite a while, and horror game analysis videos have been quite a solace to me.
    SOMA is one of my particular favorites and I just discovered your channel through this video. I'm in awe of the way you present things and how the morality of Simon's / our own actions are described.
    I apologize for the rambling, I'm just very happy about this video and I'm looking forward to whatever content you put out in the future!

  • @HangMrH
    @HangMrH Před 2 lety +1

    17 mins in, continuity theory seems a great way to make sense of the suicidal depression some of them must felt in pathos 2. Question 1: i am still an utilitarian so if i can't really benefit the mankind at that point i am not doing anything

  • @omnis0
    @omnis0 Před 2 lety

    That was an excellent explanation/analysis, great video 👍

  • @OfficialJab
    @OfficialJab Před 2 lety +2

    Someone on Frictional Games forums described Simon's apparent inability to understand the idea of the copying like this:
    "So far, the game has put you (the player) through two scans. Both times, it switched your perspective to the copy's. Based on this pattern, the game will switch your perspective again: immediately after the scan, you will control Simon on the ARK. (Some players have said that this would be a better ending, and that returning to Phi after the credits would have a greater emotional impact.) Expecting a perspective flip is only reasonable; after all, it happened both of the previous times.
    This is exactly how Simon feels. At this point in the game, his experience perfectly matches the player's: he remembers being scanned in Toronto, waking up at Upsilon, being scanned at Omicron, and descending to the abyss. It's only here, at the very end, that the game breaks its own rules. Instead of switching perspective, it shows you what the original Simon sees. It cheats you out of seeing the ARK (until the post-credits scene). And just as you feel cheated, so does Simon."
    It's also a possible perspective that maybe Simon does understand the process before firing the gun but as soon as it's gone, purposelessness sets in, with jealousy at the minds in the ARK. People have also suggested that he's so irrational and emotionally childish because by then he's the result of a scan of a scan (I don't think anything in-game mentions this as a potential issue) and also originally a 'flat' or 'legacy' scan, from before advances made it more completely capture the whole brain which I think is mentioned. These maybe aren't necessary to explaining his attitude but maybe were intended to be considered.

  • @dustyrose9679
    @dustyrose9679 Před 2 lety

    Finest SOMA video I've seen. Very well done.

  • @mopdycke94
    @mopdycke94 Před 2 lety +1

    Honestly? It's less about curiosity for me and more a fear of death. I'd like to be one of them but only because I'm terrified of dying.

  • @ellicdote2015
    @ellicdote2015 Před 2 lety +1

    The name "omicron" for a station hits do differently now-

  • @alisayankina4095
    @alisayankina4095 Před 2 lety +1

    Woman. Your channel is just a brilliant and massively underrated. Let the algorithms bless you

  • @gwstreams
    @gwstreams Před 2 lety

    I would love a sequel of Soma. Where you’re Simon, and you get to explore the ARK. Maybe a tiny bit of the WAU made it on the ARK, and you and Catherine have to stop the WAU before it destroys the entire system.

  • @devenlemend4599
    @devenlemend4599 Před 2 lety +1

    the story of soma is very interesting, and the overall question I was able to glean from its tale is thus. "What would you do when presented with the end and no real conceivable way out?." Would you fight and struggle to give yourself or at the very least someone else just a few more days in the sun, or will you succumb to the end, after all, there is no grand savior in the story who will bring humanity back from the brink your just prolonging the inevitable. even knowing what I do now about the story wouldn't change the choices I would make I would likely fight for that last stretch of time in paradise and as I said if not for me then for the other clone because I don't see a point in dying afraid and alone.

  • @hectorlumbagoCringe
    @hectorlumbagoCringe Před rokem

    Amazing job love your work

  • @CybershamanX
    @CybershamanX Před 2 lety

    I REALLY enjoyed this video! 😃 Thank you for sharing! Subbed! 😉

  • @CatTechSupport
    @CatTechSupport Před 3 měsíci

    If no one knows: SOMA is heavily based on the concept of Human Conscious Transfer Thought Theory also known in Cyber Punk setting as Mind Uploading, the principle of this idea is this:
    What is human? What defines you being human? Are you still YOU if there are multiple copies of you? and most importantly... What is consciousness? ALOT of varitions of these questions can be asked and that will result in differing answers for each question but at the core of the concept it is "Just WHAT exactly makes you... well YOU!?"

  • @compassrose1466
    @compassrose1466 Před 8 dny

    What saddens me most is Simon never got rest. His copies never got to pass when he already was accepting death but was hopeful and then when given a chance to finally be free and experience a heaven…he didn’t get it. Again his copy got to live on without him and shows how unfair the world truly is. He was also given aspirin which thins blood and worsened his condition faster on purpose too. It feels as if they wanted him to die so they could take him as a template. Consent or not, he signed away his soul technically and it’s sad.

  • @renino_4770
    @renino_4770 Před 3 lety

    This deserves more attention

  • @trampoline11x
    @trampoline11x Před 2 lety

    Looking at all the pieces in this context, it really strikes me as borderline mythological or fantastical in its own grim manner.
    Like a Greek tragedy of the underworld. The souls of the living, and giving context on free will and what life and death really means. Its all very cool.

  • @rocki_bb
    @rocki_bb Před rokem +1

    I only recently found your channel, and I adore it!
    Simon has experienced a tremendous brain injury before his scan. It's so tremendous that complications from it end his life. While they, his doctors, believe Simon has the capacity to make medical decisions for himself and consent to release ownership of his scans, I sincerely believe the brain trauma diminished his cognitive capacity to fully understand and comprehend many situations throughout Soma.
    I don't think Simon understands he's a copy of brainscans loaded into the bodies of others or onto the Ark. I don't think he has the capacity to understand that an equivalent copy remains in the upload source each time, since he had only experienced being the new copy.
    My own personal experiences with recognizing my possible cognitive impairments and a family member's experiences with developmental delays are certainly impacting my prospective though

    • @rocki_bb
      @rocki_bb Před rokem

      I would have helped Amy. It just feels like the right thing to do, especially for someone who plans to destroy the WAU. And now after hearing your thoughts, it's easy to say leaving the WAU alive is the right answer. But I can't say I would have recognized that in the moment either. I would have recognized helping Amy as right, but I easily could have fallen into thinking that the WAU needed to die as I played the game. Leaving the WAU alive makes me wonder if someday human life in some form may live on Earth again.
      As for the Ark, the people unloaded to it, with perhaps the exception of Simon, all understand what it is. They have some concept of how long in Earth's measurements of time it will last. Depending on how Catherine designed it, she may be able to access the programming of the Ark from within. But without physical bodies, our physical concepts of time have no meaning. The only limitations of the Ark are its memory and power.
      In fact there's a light novel/anime/video game series that tackles this a bit, Sword Art Online. Specifically the third season Sword Art Online: Alicization. I'm only really familiar with the anime, and I recommend starting with season 1 to become appropriately invested in and knowledgeable of the main character and supporting cast. But season 3 can be a stand alone. Obviously the tone is VERY DIFFERENT than the overall tone of Soma.
      Thank you for the wonderful video!

  • @TheZanzibarMan
    @TheZanzibarMan Před 2 lety

    Just found your channel, first video was the PREY video, I'll be binging most of your content soon.

  • @iammike213
    @iammike213 Před 3 lety +2

    These vids give me hope for 2021.

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  Před 3 lety

      Thank you. Having/making these vids gives me hope for 2021. The people that have been showing up are pretty cool too. ☺️

  • @retrocute
    @retrocute Před 2 lety +1

    Fantastic retelling!!

  • @ignitusmalia6936
    @ignitusmalia6936 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey great video,and really enjoying the indepth of the lore,got a lot of vids to get through here whoop :)

  • @connorbest2811
    @connorbest2811 Před rokem

    Another thing I let 2nd Simon live cause there's 2 people in that body if the structure cell came in contact with the body after you kill 2nd Simon then the other person's put into a life of torment

  • @hunterpaleblood8648
    @hunterpaleblood8648 Před 2 lety +2

    enchanting voice. amazing vid. suscribed m'lady

  • @derkhart6019
    @derkhart6019 Před 4 měsíci

    Fantastic little video,this game makes you think,then question your decisions,just love that.
    I remember those lines from Star Trek,the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few,but what about the one,i.e. Us,were selfish sometimes,we can do great things,sacrifice ourselves for there's,but sometimes we're just selfish an don't do the right things.

  • @connormorgan6884
    @connormorgan6884 Před 2 lety

    Soma is by far one of my top 5 favorite games, I've played though the game at least several dozen times.

  • @TheFlamerWolf
    @TheFlamerWolf Před 2 lety

    The most scariest thing about soma is the cholices you run into

  • @koryth7920
    @koryth7920 Před 2 lety +1

    This was an exeptional video. I have just played through SOMA and faced all the moral questions like you did - making this video even more touching. However, i left the WAU alive. because when akers gets you in the subway station, you have this odd dream-state where things seem quite... uplifting? better? only to realise later that it was induced by the WAU - mimicking Caths Arc. But if everyone in the WAUs grasp gets to live through fond memories or even a less depressing hallucination of better times - then the WAU does humanities remainder quite a service. Sure their real bodies look like deformed flesh-masses, but i dont think they know about that. and the WAU tries to make sure they dont realise it. perhaps with the structure gel all around pathos-II, all the live bodies are also connected - like all the people in the ark, able to interact with eachother.
    The only thing im still wondering tho is how imogene reeds head was replaced with the robotic visor that simon nr.2 started out with. who put that there? was that really the work of the WAU? a helper-robot ripping a corpses head off putting a visor and a battery in, along with some Structure Gel and a cortex chip? Shouldnt it just have reanimated her instead?
    Anyways, thank you for this well made video.

    • @thomasjoychild4962
      @thomasjoychild4962 Před 2 lety

      I think it didn't have a working scan of Imogen Reed. In the Transmissions series of shorts, her brain reacted badly to the scanning interface and she had a seizure the first time, then she refused to try getting scanned again by Catherine because she'd kinda gotten disillusioned with the idea of the Ark. The scan of her that the WAU got and put into the vivarium in the first short doesn't seem to have worked properly I guess. That, or the WAU remembered she'd been hostile to it and had shut the main power down at Upsilon, and decided to boot up someone else.

  • @larubric
    @larubric Před 2 lety +1

    Wow. Even after two playthroughs of this game, I knew NONE of this. Thanks so much for enlightening us!

  • @thetalkingbear
    @thetalkingbear Před 6 měsíci

    I feel that the "coin flip" was the carrot before the horse. I just feel that there was no chance of Simon 3 transferring to the ark.

  • @EvPev
    @EvPev Před rokem

    Brilliant video!

  • @PrattlingPyre
    @PrattlingPyre Před 2 lety +1

    Doesn't matter if there's a chance. I'd want to see the end. That's my greatest fear with dying normally, that the world carries on without me, a single blip on humanities radar. But no, I'd want to watch the last lights flicker, to see us fade from history, the last keeper of all of humanity, derelict.

  • @Markis2bi4
    @Markis2bi4 Před 2 lety +1

    A problem with Soma is that we don’t give the say-so to those we have to decide for. Being in a dangerous place, full of monstrous creatures and strange people, there was no luxury of sitting down and talking it out. We didn’t get to hear that other side of those topics. Not until the very end where we met the protector of the ARK.

  • @brycethoreson9216
    @brycethoreson9216 Před rokem

    Always love reading comments to see others view on this

  • @TheFlamerWolf
    @TheFlamerWolf Před 2 dny

    The thing I always wonder is are there people on Mars making a colony I mean if their was a comic coming to destroy earth would people get ready to go to mars to save humanity

  • @LetsChat
    @LetsChat Před 3 lety +13

    Small note: The entire game is from Simon-3's perspective and memories. Once the Ark is launched, Simon-3 (implicitly) kills himself (shortly after Catherine-2 short-circuits and dies) and they both wake up as Simon-4 and Cat-3 in the Ark. You're experiencing the continuity Sarang was talking about (which is also why it was explained in such detail)--so it's not an out of the blue happy ending, I see it more as a way to avoid making the ending even more explicitly dark (ex. "and then Simon-3 kills himself") while still building on the lore established in the game. The dark spot of hope.

    • @hoked2194
      @hoked2194 Před 2 lety +4

      It's still pretty depressing that mankind is forced into a digital existance. The ARK is more of a "man-made afterlife" than a way to contine the human race. Humanity is cut off from the physical world, doomed to die slowly alongside the ARK.
      I'm also convinced that the "Carthridge Consipracy" was all about pushing humanity to the next level with the WAU. Think about it, the WAU constructs are not only capable of interacting with the physical world, but they're also resilient, likely enough to live on the surface again.
      The ARK is just a slow but painless death, the WAU could've been a solution.

    • @murfad
      @murfad Před 2 lety +3

      "Simon-3 (implicitly) kills himself" how so? i didnt notice any implication that he kills himself.

    • @LetsChat
      @LetsChat Před 2 lety

      Implicit literally means not plainly expressed. Looking for/detailing implicit tells is like answering a rhetorical question.

    • @murfad
      @murfad Před 2 lety +3

      @@LetsChat but it means its expressed in some way, even if only faintly. the game doesnt imply either. we dont know if simon will kill himself or not. neither outcome is implied in the ending.

    • @thomasjoychild4962
      @thomasjoychild4962 Před 2 lety +2

      Both the idea of continuity and of a coin flip are incorrect, really. There's no transfer of a "soul" from one instance of the person to another, it's always a copy being made, an identical but discrete mind, which Simon possibly-deliberately repeatedly misunderstands. A new copy will remember the events before its creation but it's a new instance of the entity that experienced them, not the same one.
      The entire game until the credits is the experience-stream of Simon-3/powersuit Simon, from his memories of being flesh-and-blood Simon and then ductile suit Simon up til he discovers he's been Simon 3, not Ark-Simon, the whole time and the game ends. The post-credit scene is just an assurance that the Ark does work, to prevent the ending from being too grim, I guess.
      Catherine's chip-instance crashes due to intense emotion, which was a noted thing that could happen.
      TL,DR: Unless you believe in a soul, continuity was never even possible.

  • @AlphaEngineer2022
    @AlphaEngineer2022 Před 2 lety +1

    Could you imagine if the ark was set to horror mode and no one could change it. Only to end up reliving everything month after month😳

  • @Sm0k3turt
    @Sm0k3turt Před 2 lety

    Soma has gotta be one of if not my favorite sci-fi horror game.

  • @jetfoxproductions
    @jetfoxproductions Před 2 lety +1

    i went into this game almost completely blind, the only media i saw was one trailer. so i experienced everything as Simon did which i think made the game all the better.
    you also missed a character, she is in a robot body resting on the ocean floor.
    but anyway i also left alot of death in my wake. the only one i felt any hesitation about was sarah, i had simon ask her several times if she truly was ready to die, her being the only completely normal human left on the planet. the rest were in a sorry state like amy or just machines.
    also i swear i was able to keep carl alive because i remember the robot walking in and beating him to death, before i escaped. so i figured he was doomed regardless.

  • @tonysack-a-titanite7497

    The brain injury equivalent to taking a dump under someone’s windshield wipers rofl ❤️❤️❤️

  • @ABs70nova
    @ABs70nova Před rokem

    Wow ur doing great with your videos! I was one of your first 1500 subs now u have over 65k?

  • @jaymantisgaming
    @jaymantisgaming Před rokem

    heres something i love about this game. it appeals to any intellect. a deep thinker will love the philosophical and moral side and a simpleton will just get a kick out of the horror/chase scenes. or a youtuber or casual gamer can fire it up for a bit of fun on halloween. the deeper side to the game isnt essential but it makes for a better experience. i love a good existential crisis as much as the next galaxy-level god-mode genius (sarcasm) but i also love a good sphincter-clenching chase sequence haha. the world is full both kinds of players, so if your game or movie only appeals to one of those demo's, youre gonna alienate the other side completely. so this game did it right.
    dropped a like for the video. i'm only half way through but i'm enjoying it. nice one

  • @thecamocampaindude5167

    That last choice at the end, seeing her on lifesupport, starving , truly sad and signifying thatvour days on earth are numbered,

  • @JKPippa
    @JKPippa Před 2 lety +1

    I love your voice. It's so relaxing.

    • @Aramakie98
      @Aramakie98 Před 2 lety

      Even given the thesis, it truly is! It is a solid tossup between her and The Exploring Series ( an SCP and other pulp fiction content creator) as to which I will listen to over and over again for stress relief and lore.

    • @JKPippa
      @JKPippa Před 2 lety +1

      @@Aramakie98 I love her style. Somehow, I've managed to stay away from the whole SCP universe, but I may give The Exploring Series a try.

  • @murfad
    @murfad Před 2 lety +1

    i mean, you can see the end coming miles away. but when it then happened, it still hit me hard.
    i am wondering if it would have been better if after the launch of the ark, we instantly go to the ark simon. do that part etc. and only after that we go back to the earth simon? not sure if that would have hit even harder or not...

  • @vjdarktm
    @vjdarktm Před rokem

    Reminds me Repo Men. The ending is just bittersweet

  • @conked944
    @conked944 Před 2 lety

    9:30 nope! I’m getting a paraglider and riding the wave if the impact until I make my own impact

  • @blumrich1970
    @blumrich1970 Před 9 měsíci

    To me, the reaction of the people in the undersea installations is kind of hard to fathom.
    Ya see: Their stations were self-sufficient.
    The life on land might be screwed, but it is established that life in the Oceans is booming.
    You only need 15 individuals to sustain a healthy gene pool - they had over 80.
    They could have easily survived the catastrophe, for generations.

  • @thecamocampaindude5167

    FINALLY WE ARE IN CANADA 🍁 2:47

  • @caillasse3147
    @caillasse3147 Před 2 lety

    Great video

  • @batcatman3916
    @batcatman3916 Před 2 lety

    This Chanel is so underrated

  • @jerrjohnpresti
    @jerrjohnpresti Před 2 lety

    Q1: I probably would. but only if I thought we could do something about this.
    Q2: I'd go for the option that doesn't cause him pain, even if it led a robot down there.
    Q3: I'd ask her which one she wanted.
    Q4: I'd drain their battery.
    Q5: I'd follow her wishes.
    Q6: this thing made the game harder, and creepier. I'm going to get my retribution.
    Q7: does there have to be a point.