The difference between Bayverse and Capleverse Optimus | Why they have a different attitude?
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- The difference between Bayverse and Capleverse Optimus | Why they have a different attitude?
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Transformers 1 ( 2007 )
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DreamWorks Pictures
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Di Bonaventura Pictures
Distributed by: Paramount Pictures[1]
*Transformers: Rise of the Beasts ( 2023 )
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Skydance Media
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I think that it also has to do with the fact in the 2007 movie the autobots new they needed sam's help to find the glasses to get too the allspark. While in the rotb movie the autobots didn't believe they needed a human's help.
Yeah the rise of the Beast Optimus wasn't even chill bro was straight-up a jerk
@@Crazinatorbeats you mean beast
@@jamsworldtv2621 oh lol my bad I thought I typed it but it didn't work
@@Crazinator it's ok
@@Crazinator new Optimus is still a young Prime, but in BBM he act like a real prime
Some questions:
Bayverse: If the transformers were on earth a long time ago, even forming an alliance with them, why did the humans freak out about them in the first movie? Even treated them as unknown aliens?
Capleverse: If Optimus Prime tries to hide from humans and doesn't trust humans, why did he learn and communicate in human language?
about bayverse maybe after ww2 the autobots or cybertronians are kicked out by humans because they scared, they become a weapon in future. also the history is hided so non of humans will make transformer. that maybe the reason the dont know about the cybertronians
about is rebootverse or capleverse its already shown on bumblebee, they use human voice language but the writing words language are differents maybe
Only Sector 7 knew about the Transformers at that point. Optimus Prime was even surprised why the Sector 7 agents weren’t surprised by the autobots
Edit: we also learn that even high ranking military officials like the US Secretary of Defense, John Keller, did not have the clearance to know about the Transformers
Capleverse prime has been stranded in earth for lime 8 or 7 years in earth he baybe learned about out language after staying here for 8 or 7 years
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So that you can be washed clean by His holy blood. And He rose from the dead! He wants to save you. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour today 🙏 today’s the day of salvation! God bless you.
It a reboot that why
I notice that both Prime are opposite of each other
1. Capleverse Prime started out as not trusting humans, but over time, he trusts humans
2. Bayverse Prime starts out as trusting humans, but later does not due to the hunting of the Autobot
Bayverse prime did eventually trust them again after they settled things out with the humans, and agreed to stop hunting down autobots.
Bayverse Prime started out trusting, but humanity betrayed his trust again and again. And it made him lose his trust on most of humanity.
The new Prime started out distrusting, but with Noah, Elena, and Primal introducing the tribe he started putting some trust into humans. I hope the new Prime doesn't get betrayed again and again, and that humans in this universe are better. With the G.I. Joes around, I'm hoping the Autobots are treated better in this world. I don't want to see a repeat of Ratchet's death. Unless from G.I. Joe's enemies, since that's a given possibility.
Yes, that is what I was thinking about too.
It’s also cause ROTB Optimus is a younger Optimus Prime. So it was when he first got too earth so he doesn’t have much connection to the humans. They actually build up his love for humans in the movie making it a story arc for him. It is like in the G1 show he didn’t immediately like the humans but when he realised they needed his help after the autobots and Decepticons fight he went and helped them cause that was the right thing to do. Bayverse Prime had known about humans before the first movie and had learned about them from the internet, cause somehow they were able to do that. ROTB didn’t trust humans after what they did to Bumblebee, and he hadn’t met any humans yet that made him believe they were worth fighting for, until Noah came and showed him that humans are complex.
Optimus from capleverse is inexperienced and younger as Optimus from Bayverse (I mean it happenes in the 1994, a earlier time). It's like with humans, a teenager is irascible and doesn't understand the right ways yet.
I think later in bayverse, the autobots travel back in time to gather fragrances or knowledge of something to defeat unicron(not kill but send him to sleep) that's why they are seen scattered across the timeline, even though they arrive in 07.
One reason too is that bumblebee looks quite old and experienced in ww2 scene but in bumblebee movie which is a reboot he seems small and inexperienced.
Just a theory
Edit: I can explain with more points if u want
(Sector Seven ARG and MOVIE UNIVERSE)
He wants to go back to Cybertron thinking about his hometown until he meets a human in 1982.
Slightly doubting humans but having the personality of Optimus Prime we know, has become the generous Prime that fandom and Optimus Prime have thought of since they got the Matrix. Optimus's past before becoming a leader is the same personality as rotb.
yaa that is true, optimus prime in ROTB is so different attitude, and primal said "he is not optimus prime i imagined"
Considering that there are two movies in the reboot universe compared to the 5 in Bayverse, and two different directors directed each, I think it's better to refer to everything new as just reboot. Reboot Optimus, instead of Capleverse Optimus, for example. Just a thought.
Well that is kinda true, if I saw a creature that I never saw in my life I would probably treat it differently. Like I'd either show it that I'm not a threat or just straight up I dunno just like be a threat to them.
kind off already knew this but still happy to see new video! you are only youtuber i watch when they release a video cuz other youtubers i watch them for some time and almost never watch them again huge respect
I have a question how come beavers knew about human culture, and how to study it before they come to earth but they had a war in Cybertron and the cube, when did reach earth and why did they not take it then leave
also to not forget: 2 humans treated bumbelbee nicely. the others tried to kill him to protect their own (in their thoughts9
Until the end of the film remember?
We have many doubts compare to these two universe
Heights, (size)
Cybertronions words, tattoos for names,
Respects,
Timelines,
And many mores
other explanation[i think bumblebee told optimus wha his life was like on earth since he mentions charlie and optimus replies like he already knows her and that includes the case ,the soldiers and etc] [edit both in bayverse and in capleverse arrived before the autobots, but the reception of humans is different in the timelines] thank you for reading
Different Transformers Multiverse
Say what you want but Optimus primes voice always gives me goosebumps and he always inspirer ❤😊.
bro pls make video about MARVEL TRANSFORMERS COMIC
The moment you realize Bayverse Optimus is more Optimus than Caples Optimus....
bayverse prime didn’t want another planet and sentient life to pay for the mistakes of the autobots and decepticons. Bayverse prime was also aware of what humans a capable of so you have instances in the movies he acts as guide trying to steer humanity from making the mistakes his kind made. While reboot optimus came off lowkey racist and I couldn’t see him saying freedom is the right of all sentient beings with how he was acting towards humans until the end of the movie which I guess was the point
@@giovonniiclayton Yeah
@@giovonniiclayton that's because primal had to teach prime why protecting humanity is worth saving and the meaning of "more than meets the eye" in order to become the prime we all know (aka bayverse), since he's been among them for a long time.
𝘉𝘶𝘵 Optimus prime, in rise of the beast 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘰𝘯 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘩 𝘧𝘰𝘳 7 𝘺𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘴
In the last knight movie sir Edmund Burton have confirmed that the autobots including optimus and bumblebee have been on earth since ww2 , I think optimus have lied to same about the web so sam doesn’t panic because things have been happening under his nose for a long long time and the government knows it
2:14 but are they dotm Prime, earth Ironhide and Hot Rod who has already scanned Lamborg?
I know this is an old picture in the house of another witwicky
Nice Theory👍
Yaa look interesting bayverse prime like so trusting to human and get somework together but the knightcaplevers like really really a robot in disguise
How many first comments are there?
Its just prime:
Love your videos from Philippines
Thankyou brother ♥️
Why the Maximals did not destroy the transwarp key after using it to travel to earth(day 2)
What happened with lockdown's ship after age of extinction.
I'm intrested because we can see it in TLK.
How it was obtained?
What happened with lockdown's mercenarys?
Fairly sure the rest of the autobots had a facedown with the rest of Lockdown's mercenaries, took them down and kept the ship. It's the most obvious explanation for them to have it.
Nice video brother. And btw I have a question, if capleverse prime never acknowledged us than how are they able to speak our language? Is that their primary language too?
I think on cybertron, it's a translation of their language. So we understand what they are saying. However, when they arrive on earth, they adapt the language of the humans there
Jesus Christ loves you ❤ He got on that cross for you. He bled for you. He loved you to die for you.
So that you can be washed clean by His holy blood. And He rose from the dead! He wants to save you. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour today 🙏 today’s the day of salvation! God bless you.
@chickennuggets5549 Who tf cares? Why not post this on a religious video.
@@therealpaulgoodman lol man you goin wild 💀💀
3:14 you too
In my opinion i like bayverse transformers bc they respect and trust earth's people but in capleverse they think humans only saves wut's theirs
Bayverse is the Best 🗿
Hol up if bumblebee was in earth with a very obvious HUMAN wat is going on in rotb
I have a cool theory. What if optimus died instead of bumblebee
so are we officially calling it the Capleverse or Knightverse?
we can call it in both ways
what music do you use?
Hi Edformers i have question. How old is Optimus Prime from Transformers Prime? I will be glad for any answer. Thank you and have a nice day.
Hey Edformers,
I have noticed that Scourge and Optimus Prime from Bayverse has some similarites, like their alt mode and their head having a bump. So do you think that Scourge is the Bayverse Prime? And why would Scourge wear a mask, is he hiding something. In the Transformer live action there is no one wearing a mask. Maybe Unicron mind controled the Bayverse Prime.
Hope u make a Theory about this Thx
I agree too
@@PRXRotomdebunked within *SECONDS*
*HEIGHTS*
bayverse prime, specifically *knight mode* is likely taller than his 1-4 truck mode or the same heights
and oh boy he's massive
meanwhile scourge can't even compare
scourge's height at best is like bayverse prime's chest if not the abdomen
not to mention in knight mode, his helmet got no bump
WHAT IF apelinq run with other maximals and not holding scourge?
imagine bayvers Optimus Prime meet Rise Of The Beast Optimus Prime What Will Happen ?
@@muhamadfazreen7845 I guess bayverse prime can win considering how much violent he can be towards his enemies. But remember this optimus from rise of the beasts was the same one prime from bumblebee who escaped cybertron and beaten all the decepticons while being surrounded by himself.
Wow thank you
Simple answer: cause the different verse :)
Hello Ed former...... So in bumblebee 2018 movie credit scene optimus has his trailer but in transformers rotb he's trailer missing...... What happened to his trailer is it cgi mistake or wrong optimus
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ı got a question if therese comic book about bayverses past about the cube how did they interact with humans before comic book like ww2 bumblebee and napolyon optimus prime (idk about optimus primes past)
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I have one why didn’t Optimus prime use his arm cannon during the final battle he could have fought an easily fight with scourge
And also compare to Multiverse Transformers also difference types series, movies, animated, anime, real life/real world, old times etc.
That’s my seacret qestion
On transformers prime optimus prime also had the same attitude
Hey can you do 2-year two missing dinosaurs and Transformers The Last Knight because in the first movie is supposed to be for dinosaurs but now in the last night is not only two
Can you answer this question edformers ?Why did grimlock not transform into his robot mode In transformers the last knight
They aint called Robots in Disguise for nothing
It’s a different attitude because the Optimus is an older version of the Optimus in ROTB they’ve said this
To be honest that's just the first bayverse movie in the later films they are careful to trust humans because humans are hunting them down
But mirage explained that they have been on earth for like 6 or 7 years
It's real sad optimus smiled only once then was killed by rotb prime 😢💔
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Beyverse Prime know Sam bcus of his grandfather And also they need Sam's help from the Glasses. It was also their plan to form an alliance with Sam that's why Prime needs to be gentle to Sam bcus his only a Boy. Capleverse Prime also dont want humans to be part of the Cybertronian Conflicts. Humans are just victims thats why he want to settle it on their own
Hey edformers I have a question. What if Noah didn't listen to Optimus prime. he destroyed the key anyway
Because surprisingly the new writers know less about Optimus than Bay
And yet he's a better Prime than Bayverse
@@ContagiousSponge found the geewunner
@@ContagiousSponge good joke troll Bayverse Optimus is better
@@Melkorsolostheverse Bruh, even the voice actor of Optimus Prime hated what they did to him in the Bayverse.
@@ContagiousSponge no he didn't lmao
Why ironhide never use his 2 rifle gun
Cause it was slowing him down
Probably because he doesn't know noah yet meanwhile he knows who sam is.
This is set in the 90s not in the 00s
Yo another theory video idea for u to make in last knight I still don’t understand how transformers already made alliances with humans before then they go back to cybertron and our race in the films are always shocked of seeing them in the films don’t make sense as bee and hot rod where in ww2.
I hope the next movie will Optimus justice
I think capleverse Prime hate human because of the event of BUMBLEBEE movie humans tried to kill bee
Edformers why in transformers prime when optimus matrix removed he lost his memories but in other transformers series when he get his matrix removed he not loses his memory
Im gonna ask something this is from transformer bayverse about why drift didnt use his helicopter mode again you said he cant transform into helicopter again because he lost his 1 sword but i see his 2 sword when Decepticon is about to attack them in there base.
Hi edformers one thing is can you make a territory on the maximals which was were there other maximals that survived besides Primal, Airazor, Rinox, and Chetor. The reason you should make this theory is because when the autobouts and maximals were getting ready to fight Airazor stopped all of them and Primal asked are the others but Airazor stopped him and said she is the last of them so from that sentence we know that there were other maximals that survived and Airazor might have meet them by when the maximals landed on earth the side were Airazor was standing on might have ejected out because there might have been a pod in that pod so while Airazor ejected Primal, Rinox, and Chetor stayed and when Airazor landed she was very close to another group of maximals and that group found Airazor and that group might have got to earth by when Apeliq was doing his best to make sure unacrion did not get the transwarp key he ordered some maximals to go to other plants so if unacrion did get the key there would be maximals to stop him and those maximals left for earth while Primal, Airazor, Rinox, and Chetor stayed with him and the reason why we may have not seen those maximals is because before Scorge, Battletrap, and Nightbird landed in New York they might have landed where Airazor's group was and Scorge, Battletrap, and Nightbird killed all the maximals except Airazor and before the last maximal was killed they might have told Airazor to leave and Airazor listened knowing that is what her team mate wanted her to do and she started to fly to New York and on her her she met the Autobots fighting the Teracons and helped out and we know she wasn't in Peru because she would have to be very close by to make it here in time so her group was close to the autobots and it is possible that when we saw the pod the maximals were in it was huge and on top that might have been a smallest pod and that pod ejected Airazor out. So you might have to watch the movie again to see what I mean
Michael bay Optimus prime is older and has been on earth for longer!
First
First comment
Why the Terror cons got an human Mode in the space and in the mobile form?
The ans is simple, unicorn is a multiversal villain meaning he exists in 4D,he can be the same one in past present future timelines for his stacked collections which was once torn apart by Primus!! Next as prime promised us to co exist and repair each other homes unifyingly he kept the promise in the last knight,so instead of autobots using more human resources they started to use the nature - the maximals due to predacons, insecticons , deceptions war afainst human hence we can see saturn like rings around the Earth so Apelinq sent maximals to the next blackhole associated timeline where Autobots aka thier ansector heroes exist so i cant say reboot or revamp but this trilogy is the hasbro secret wars introducing Autobots from 2 or more TIMELINES to defeat the unicorn and his herlads with help of GI JOE- Anti TRF squads!!
What if when unicorn bayformers vs unicorn steven caple jr?
So that's means, Bayverse & Capleverse still on the same timeline. Optimus Prime & the other Autobots try to learn about human culture on Earth after he sees Optimus Primal how to communicate with humans while in Peru. It's just that it takes a long time to understand people. So it makes sense in my opinion. 😊
Same timeline means not in the same universe right?
I think you still you dont understand
These are DIFFRENT verses
The New movies take place in the 80s and 90s while Google was invented late 90s or so meaning Optimus and the rest couldnt know about our culture except for Bumblebee
Wait so rose of the beast is not canon to Micheal bays movies?
its already confirm by the director many times its reboot
Did you just came out from cave??!
@@eddys9311 nah maybe his a bayfans you know
Edformers I have a theory what did apelinks robot mode look like
Thanks for the explanation for. The transformers in the paintings and also I think bayverse and capleverse is connected
Bayverse and Capleverse are not connected at all
I think ROTB Optimus Prime hates humans because of how Sector 7 allied with Decepticons and tried to kill Bumblebee. So Optimus has reasons to think Humans are evil and want to kill all Cybertronians.
Sector 7 never allied with decepticons.
If you mean by bayverse optimus was already here before from a long time that's why thay trust humans then I would like to say that didn't we say all of the Autobots arriving to earth for the first timein the first transformers movie after sam and mikela meet bee.
And Capleverse prime is less war criminal then bayverse prime
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no he isn't lmao, Caple Optimus is more war criminal and he commits war crimes unlike Bay Optimus who doesn't commit any war crimes and instead kills the war criminal and evil gods
👍😭 optimus prime 2007🥲...
Why Did Charlie Disapear From Transformers Rise Of The Beasts After Bumblebee Movie?
This is my theory cause Optimus prime in caple verse and bayverse is not the same director
Hey edformers,I have a question,who is stronger,Bayverse or Capleverse Optimus prime
Reboot Optimus Prime
Bayverse prime obviously
@@DestronRamjet cap
oh man it's obvious, Bayverse without a single question
Asan na young toys rebeu??
Hey can you do:"what if sentinel prime never bertrayed the autobots?
Easy explanation
The decepticons wouldnt gotten the upper hand cuz no one couldve activated the Little things(forgot its name)
So the decepticons on the moon wouldnt come to earth
most of AOE and TLK plot wouldnt exist
Michael Bay is still the producer so its still technically bayverse😂
it's not Bayverse at all and he never produced it
I like bayverse optimus😊
makes sense alot
and well
if bayverse prime visited earth *NOW*
like, this instant
he'll be even more "violent"
like, bro's going to be racist to humans
of course because he literally studies our culture through *I N T E R N E T*
meaning he has chances of finding stuff like tiktok and reddit, also twitter
that made another question
how does optimus prime study human language when the human language doesnt have the translation for cybertronians language
when you learn a new language you gotta know what it means to your first or second language
is bayverse prime that much of a genius to look at sentences and is able to know how to use words to construct a sentence dawg?
Bro is like a back up if trans theories hasn't posted a new video yet
First+pin+me+like
Can you make a theory of why scourge where’s a mask
because his mask matches with Unicron
the fact that Travis Knights only made 1 transformers movie but a solo movie while Michael Bay made 5
why won't Travis Knights make a second movie but with full battle of autobots vs decepticons from cybertron scene and since Travis Knights isnt gonna make it after 5 years with no second movie. Steven Caple Jr has to do it making a new transformers movie rise of the beast but I didn't really enjoy because Why optimus look different compared to bumblebee and what happened to Ironhide, Ratchet and Brawn and other autobots that were on cybertron in Bumblebee movie and why did they make Wheeljack look so bad why weren't there any decepticons cuz i just wanna see more actions from the decepticons like Soundwave and Shockwave and see Megatron after 5 years they barely had enough screen time.
Did Travis Knight quit or does he just don't have any idea for second movie?
Why sideswipe foot is tire
Your music into so scary to listen sorry to say that hope u can change the music
First pin please
Jolt was killed by shockwave
Where is barricade in bumblebee movie ?
Where is he
@@mridulasurolia5313he isnt there
Can you just let go of the bayverse it ended a while ago
simple: michael bay
that's why Michael Bay is better than Steven Midple Jr. even if he is making a skibidi toilet movie