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Chael Sonnen talks about athletes competing into their 40's on this episode of Beyond the Fight.
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Uncle Chael didn’t retire he’s just giving the youngsters a chance for glory. What a humble man he is.
chael isn't losing chael is putting over new talent. building new stars for the future. a man with no ego.
If you can easily beat the shit out of 99.999% of the world your never retired. At age 90 chael will still beat up most anyone
Lmao good stuff
Names hilarious
I aim to inspire
"Athletes have gotten older and older with time" -Chael Sonnen
Haha I know I wasn't the only one who caught that , good o'l uncle Chael !
AltWhite I believe he meant athletes are competing longer and to a older age than ever before, but good one 😆
It's about time Uncle Chael has discussed the linear progression of time
@@jessiewalker8547 I know lol he just fuct his words up but it was funny
He clearly heard how it sounded, but even Chael doesn't correct Chael
Aging: *Exists
Urijah: “No, we don’t do that here”
I started training and now competing in amateur boxing at 36. I love it. I lost 90 pounds doing it and have kept it off. I am now 38 and 25 matches in. I plan on competing amateur until 40 then try a pro fight or two. Now I mostly compete in the Master’s division 35+ but will match up with anyone 30 up.
well, sure you can compete in Amateur boxing, but when you're above 35, you're already out of your prime, and you definitely can't compete in professional boxing which consists of 12 rounds and you are more likely to face those who are younger, and faster than you.
@@alexong2542 most pro boxers don’t get to the 10 round level. The 12 round level is the championship and maybe top 10 level of a division. 2 years past and still at if even beat a few 20yo along the way🥊
@@victormelendez9752 Ignore the haters. Go win some medals.
Give'em hell, sir
Dude, I'm 36 and training, contemplating on my first MMA match, you gave me inspiration lol, thanks!!
Chael foreshadowing his comeback
Hes only begone a couple months
Yoel Romero said "water & Sugar"
He legit said that on the joe rogan podcast
Gay jesus
i'm knocking on 50 and killing it better then I ever did in my 20's and 30's ,energy,weight training strength,overall stamina ,recovery looking young .. It's also because the rules of nutrition like Chael says and self maintenance .
Yessir!
Im 36 and can still run, lift and spar the same as my late 20's. Now i do have some lower back problems that could be fixed with surgery from the weightlifting I i did when I was younger. But late 30's and very early 40's really aren't that old these days if you take care of yourself. Recovery time though slows as you get older and you have to adjust for that.
Agree. I started at 30, and never felt better than the past 8 years. Still feeling totally normal and capable.
“Athletes have gotten older with time” That statement is the perfect marriage of obvious simplicity and infinite complexity.
"Athletes have gotten older with time" -Chael
Anderson Silva - 44
Lil' Nogueira - 43
Demian Maia, Yoel Romero, Fabricio Werdum, Aleksei Olynyk, Marion Reneau - 42
Francisco Trinaldo, Alex Chambers - 41
Daniel Cormier, Andrei Arlovski, Jacare Souza, Glover Teixeira, Urijah Faber - 40
RIODS and a midget.
And they all suck except glover and all these people are freaks of nature and super athletes regardless
Chael: explaining the importance of nutrition
Me: (stuffing my face with sugary cereal) OK GREAT!
@I offer u this i eat cereal without milk 😬. I know, i know 😂😂😂
@@megadeth6756 Your a monster lmaooo
@Trouser Troll thanks buddy!
megadeth675 got these skittles
One doesn't stop fighting until they kick air addiction !
Best explanation of "prime" that I have ever heard.
@Flashy Paws
I dont agree w this AT ALL. We age, period. Our testosterone levels diminish and endurance fades. You can argue and dive into the deep end of semantics, but without PEDs, that shit ain't happening.
If "older" guys can stay healthy (no easy feat) they can be as fast, explosive and strong as they were at 30.
What suffers are 2 things:
1. Reaction time (it starts falling off in your twenties, and repeated brain trauma is not helping this in any way)
2. Endurance starts suffering not due to being older in itself but from having to take it easier in training to avoid injuries that a) now happen easier and b)take longer to heal
On top of all that, in MMA (or other combat sports) even if you are very good at avoiding punches by the time you're 40 you will have accumulated enough punches to the head that it takes the toll.
OK GREAT 😅 BUT UNCLE CHAEL HAS SPOKEN. 😜✅💪🏽
Glover is the prime example to keep pushing I'll be honest I wasn't much of a fan before but him winning as made me appreciate him more
Absolutely one of the best and most insightful videos I've heard from you. Great work
Awesome listen,Chael.42 here,train bjj/mma 5 days a week. Prime is definitely a mindset.
What happened to the songs at the end? Loved those.
Great message Chael - thank you
I can only speak for myself. I've always taken care of myself and trained. However, now at 48, I simply can't train enough because I get overtraining injuries. It's a fine line between staying in shape and getting hurt.
It also depends on how u train. If u went hard in your younger years it will affect you as you get older. If you take it easy like myself then there's no issues. Too many dudes get caught up in their ego.
TRT would help. If you aren't on it, look into it
There isn’t a fine line between staying in shape and getting hurt. You shouldn’t need to to get hurt to train hard. There may be a fine line between being a professional athlete and getting hurt, but getting in great shape doesn’t have to involve injury.
@@theDavidChannel1 I played a lot of basketball in my younger years and the high impact has definitely had some effect.
@@ryannath85 Not into messing with my hormones. There are consequences to everything.
This is some real talk. I appreciated this one.
Urijah had that FIRE in his eyes stairing down Yan.
Carrie Haley I thought that too. Rooting for him this weekend
I'm rooting for uriah as well. I have always been a fan of his. He has always showed up to fight
@@slicksilver9441 he is such a fighter at heart & soul a true warrior.
@@carriehaley3076 for sure.
Never end these videos I love them
I remember seeing Faber fight in WEC ...he seems to still be a force to be reckoned with.
I remember seeing his merch in the no fear stores back in the day.
I think the layoff actually did him some good. He still seems to be in great shape
This man is a true master of talking articulately and constantly over a long period of time
So true. Doesnt seem the blows to the head damage his articulation.
I like the perspective on aging and staying hungry. It is all freakin mental. This is a cool comparison to what some athletes were and the evolution of what they are beoming..Faber's my hero.
I got myself a shirt for Christmas! Thanks Chael!
is chael asking for a rematch against jon jones?
Jon doesn't want that smoke
I perfer Tito. Say what you want, Tito wouldn't deny a rematch. Jon would.
@@jayfiggs4656 tito tapped but ref didn't catch it
@@carlosamaya3849 right which is why I would like to see a rematch.
@@jayfiggs4656 don't think chael would do it tbh, he's doing really well with his podcast and merch
Damn, I'm inspired, thanks Chael.
I'm in my late 40s and have never participated in athletics other than just doing modest workouts in the gym (nothing too heavy). I want to start training in muay thai or mma but my sedentary career kind of gets in the way - gotta pay the bills. Weekends and night training after 7 would be ideal but hard to find a gym with that schedule. I'm not in bad shape but not great shape either. Plus sometimes my knees bother me if I'm not careful. I hope fight training won't break me if I decide to do it. I wish I had tried this twenty years ago.
The difference is there's a place for these guys to compete and earn money. A wrestler "retired" at 23 in the '70 because there was no professional options. Since MMA started, multiple promotions exist and these people have reason to build a career.
Uncle chael needs to hook up with teddy atlas the analysis would be devastating
"Manny Pacman Pacquiao" just recently became the oldest Welterweight to win a Title against Kieth Thurman (A Champion in his 20's and much physically bigger man and murderous puncher) at 40 years old, adding to his multitude of Records already, is an ultimate example!!
Want to see an example of how it can be done at 40, watch that fight if you haven't already!!
Yoel romero
There was also ZERO drug testing for that fight which is why most of the boxing community didn’t really care about the win after a day or two
@@MVPboppin ON THE contrary it was easily one of the highest selling PPVs of the year, although still not close to the numbers of Prime Pac, his still one of the highest sellers in the fight game even in his advaced age (boxing doesn't stack there cards like the UFC so the fight sells predominantly off Pacs name alone), when longevity is mentioned in the Sport of boxing Pacs performance as a 40 yo beating on fighters in their 20's is the most recent great example and has been mentioned consistently as such, and in a positive light in most part from bpxing media and boxers alike if you watch a lot of boxing reports as i do.
Furthermore the whole welterweight division are calling him out for a payday.. little 40 yo Manny Pacquiao whose obviously not a natural WW by a long shot, if that's not crazy impressive to you than enjoy hating im not gonna stop you :)
His taken multiple drug tests in his career and not once tested positive so the nay sayers are mainly haters and/or Floyd Mayweather fanboys, which is fine, not a problem if you're one, each to their own can't impress everyone mate :),
P.S maybe you should turn your attention to Canelo (AN ACTUAL CONVICTED FELLON) with these type of comments lol
Kay Vee I’m not hating, I like Manny. He’s an all time great. BUT it’s widely known that he hasn’t been clean his entire career. I never doubted any of his PPV sales or anything so don’t know why you’re bringing all that stuff up. Maybe you’re trying to change the topic because you know there’s some shady shit 😉. Now canelo is something we can agree on. This man is so blatantly protected by the WBC to the point it’s not really a sport anymore. They will make sure he will never lose again.
MVPboppin I don’t know who told you there was no drug testing but just because theŷ don’t sign up for VADA doesn’t mean there’s no drug testing as WADA undertook the drug testing
I am 60 and would still fight under a few conditions.NO weight cutting,i want a LEGIT fight partner.NO peds of ANY kind,again i want a legit fight partner.The final condition...,i need a few months to get back some cardio lol.My job is very hard work so i had to stop playing sports and stop the cardio workouts,just no way i was too tired and body needs rest.IF i had a job that allowed me to continue all these years,i have no doubt even at 60 my cardio and ability would be on par with anyone.My point is that 40 is NOT old,it is only old if you do things to slow yourself down,like gain weight,no cardio work ,laziness whatever.
The age factor has more to do with weight cutting.Cutting weight is extremely tasking on an older person and their kidneys.If this sport removes the weight cutting aspect i bet more fighters would last into their 40's.The other factor is injuries,over time injuries will slow you down,bad joints,torn muscles,arthritis,cartilage and just the down time while recovering.
"FABER"imo he was most certainly using ped's,i could see the very fast size transformations and it just looked too obvious.Cotoure is another one i have always suspected of a ped user,so these fighters were imo NEVER that good if not for peds.
When is your radio show starting on SiriusXM? We are all waiting.
To the point; professional surfer, Kelly Slater, is 47 and just scored a perfect 10 in waves of consequence in Hawaii. He's also an 11 time world champ and currently resides in the top 10 in the high stakes world of professional surfing. @ WSL.com... 47yrs. old. Think on that.
He's ranked number 4 at 50 years old now
This made me think of Aldo as well... good luck to the old guard 👊 ps honorable mention to Overeem for being an OG, it sucked to watch him loose after playing his cards almost perfectly
Dude the Overeem loss must be crushing to him because he got stopped with 4 seconds left in the fight and his lip literally exploded... plus it would of been a 3 fight win streak!
Aldo is 33....
@@kenjammin holy shit ay, that legit always slips my mind. Regardless Aldo is definitely a veteran . What did you think of the flights? I think Aldo got robbed a little
Typically when u reach forty your body is no longer the same...U may be a tough guy still,but typically speaking the younger (tough) guys will win out more often than NOT....An older fighter does have that cagey aspect though and is NOT to be underestimated as if u take them lightly u could end up paying the piper...
EXACTLY ✅💪🏽👀
basically everyone ages differently. Some people develop very quickly and then plateau. some can take into their late twenties or even thirties before peaking then its just a matter of maintaining. If you look after yourself your forties shouldn't be impossible. Look at bodybuilders now, some of those dudes are almost fifty at the top level. granted they use steroids but to be able to last like dexter jackson is a good testament. I think human genetics have been misunderstood with respect to longevity. with modern health science i wouldn't be surprised if we see a lot more pros in their forties
I think it's means that this generation has younger genes. I think in the future fighting at 45 - 50 will be fine
This is the kind of video we watch Chael for
Chuck liddell was past his prime going into the Tito Ortiz fight. You could see it in his training video before the fight. He looked like an old man kicking the bag.
You could see it when he literally started limping towards the cage like he needed knee replacements.
It didn't help that he hadn't fought in 8 years and Tito stayed relatively active. One or two warm up fights would have served him well.
he was past his prime 10 years before that fight
@@theDavidChannel1 tito was a warm up fight to him or so he thought
Past injuries fucked him up. I'm sure there's quite a few 50 year old ex-fighters that can kick a bag 100X better than that crippled up Liddell.
There are some Impressive fights of age !
I am 44 and went into Tyron Woodley's gym to train. The power is not a problem, learning the techniques was not a problem, taking a punch was not a problem. Wind, was a huge problem. I could not go for more than 2 minutes. Now I have had some other personal issues and cardio is something I could work on but I don't think the avg person understands how difficult the cardio side of fighting is. Just shadow boxing for 2 minutes will be a real challenge for a lot of people, especially people over 40.
Rick flair, hulk Hogan etc all get mad props from me,for wrestling in too there 100s.It blows my mind, even if it is scripted. still incredible athletes.
Props to Uriah! Keep it up uncle Chael!
Yoel Romero is 42. It’s awesome
I am 26, an athlete, and i am already severely more susceptible to injury and pain than when i was 18. At 40, i can only imagine how painful the workout i do today will be.
Maybe your falling apart dog
Id start taking a shit load of cbd if i was you and eating a lot of peinapple.
Chael ... LIFE IS NOT A RACE ... IT'S A MARATHON. .. good podcast
Regarding Uriah Faber's weight: Back in his wrestling days, not unlike my own wrestling and boxing days, he probably wrestled at, or close to, his actual 'in shape' weight. These days, for many UFC fighters their actual 'walk around' (in relatively fit condition) can be 20 to 30 lbs over their 'dehydrate the hell out of yourself' weigh-in weight. ~ I mean C'mon, I've heard that Khabib walks around at 185, and fights at 155. And some people, physiologically speaking, are better than others at dehydrating and quickly rehydrating. IMO there should be weigh-ins, or secondary weight check right before the fight. Why not have fighters fight at their actual weight? jus askin
I just watched this Urijah interview today, I had a feeling this was about him 😅😅
Yoel Romero has entered the chat...
45 is the new 30 just ask Kelly Slater, Randy Couture, Yoel Romero......legends
Always spot on. Love me some uncle chael even if I'm older. Lol
There is a tv show called “Brain Games” in which psychological tests are performed. One test they flashed an item directly in front and another item to the side. It was a brief flash and you the viewer had to name item. I am 44 years old and didn’t pick them up. It was determined by the psychologists that you brain changes at 40 and to have seen the items you would be under that age ( there is exceptions but they prove the rule not change it). This explains why fighters start getting hit with shots they normally slipped. Their brain is not picking it up like it use to and the shot you don’t see is the one that knocks up out.
I'm 41 and have weighed roughly 175lbs since my 20s...I got to 205 one time working in the kitchen while in jail and a friend had me on a prison workout...got out stopped my routine and am now back to 175
Obviously Uriah still functions at a very high-level but inevitably young hungry opponents are going to rise to the top. Good job CS.
I hate the fact that I'm getting older.
sorry
How old are you?
T, R, T. It’s dynamite.
Only one other alternative.
Well if it makes you feel better millions are going to die from economic fall out over the next three years.
Chael still undefeated even in retirement.
Fighting at 40? I can barely get up off of the toilet at 43.
Is Werdum coming back after his 2 yr suspension over in May Chael??
“I was doing what I was doing.”
🤣🤣🤣
It would so cool to train with chael
The reason athletes are able to go well beyond what people perceive them to be able to go in sports. is training and nutrition nowadays is so much more advanced than it was even 20 years ago. I mean it's really insane when you think about it.I mean looking football athletes are training better and eating better than athletes did in the 90s and in the 80s and before that. And they're able to go longer.also we have a lot more safety protocols to protect players or fighters so they can have longer careers. I'll say this is 100% honesty most fighters and athletes weather its football, basketball,boxing,MMA whatever most of them don't retire because they have to they retire because they can.it's a choice they choose to retire because normally they have so much money that they don't have to beat their bodies up any longer. I mean just look at the world strong man you got Mark Felix at like 54 years of age competing against dudes half his age and he still Killin It.
I started boxing at 33. Now at 38 I will enter my first amateur kickboxing match in about 2 months.
What's crazy to me is to look back and see how guys like Archie Moore and those old time boxers were fighting until they were damn near 50. No fucks were given lol
Look at Archie's second fight with Yvon Durelle, Archie was 45 and Yvon was 27, Archie took a beating in the beginning but kept coming back over and over again until he managed to turn the tides and then beat the shit out of Yvon.
Another example of a boxer fighting into old age is Jem Mace, man fought professionally into his 60's and then kept doing exhibitions until his death, last recorded entry in the ring being at age 78
Kelly Slater 47 still competing and beating 22 yr olds. 11 time world champ. Had a 10 at pipeline yesterday. The GOAT
12 haters, must be Tito and Anderson's entourage
I kept expecting this to turn into an ad for Roman...
Do you think kahbib and Tony are as evenly matched as usman vs. Colby ?
When I was in my twenties I often heard guys my own age say things like "I never work out and eat junkfood all the time but I am not fat so its okey". Now when I am thirty I just don't hear that anymore...
Chael doesn’t have an ego or pride......ego and pride have Chael
So fighters chins lose metal focus and desire?
i think it has alot to do how much head trauma you take in your career .tito even tho he has lost a few times he hasnt actually been knocked out that much.
What about a guy like Shogun? Tough ass hell, still showing heart, but no more high-flying. He used to be unpredictable and dynamic, now he's plodding.
Believe that Sukoraba aka the Gracie killer is still active at 50 fighting at Rizin
'Athletes have gotten older and older with time' - Chael P
And yet somehow the rest of us knew da fly what he was saying 🤣
Lmao! I paused the video to see if I was too late. I am.
Tell BJ Penn that his extended career is commendable.
BJ wouldn't put in the work, even in his prime. :D
Southern Folk: "Let me git some of that, them there Urrjeah stock that Uncle Kale was menchunin"
Klitschko is even coming back for a 3 fight deal
Why they should allow trt under strict limits and testing so older guys don't cheat. Look at Vitor Belfort.Look at Mike Tyson. Stem cells for injuries and 15 years out of boxing, went in the ring and lasted. He and Roy wanted to go all out balls to the wall, moving hard and fast to KO. You put him on trt, Tyson would be in his 2nd Prime......look at Shawn Rhoden winning Mr Olympia at 43. Dexter Jackson coming 2nd at 46. Albert Beckles winning pro bodybuilding show at 61...and yes Bodybuilding has some pretty damaging injuries too....
It all depends how long you've been doing it, how your body has held up, how you've looked after yourself, any injuries that have held up or not, so many things that the number of years isn't quite at the top of the list, it's all down to the individual.
One factor....if there are no major illnesses... keep in shape, keep training
@Ocasio-Cortez4prez2022 you nailed it! 😊
@@tantamount4341 yep, 100% 😊
@I offer u this yep, all you guys smashed it 😊
@Ocasio-Cortez4prez2022 Yeah and when you think about it too it's not even that old. Chael says it best here about how athletes are getting older and Alan Jouban also said it recently on a UFC Now episode, I mean the average roster is early to mid 30's and all our title holders are in their 30's except Max, is Stipe around 37? It's just us that make it out to be and put that on it which is proven time and time again like with your example there once again showcasing this. I know MMA is different to wrestling in regards to wrestling being a scripted entertainment show but look at loads of them too, Ric Flair, Undertaker, Hogan, DDP, I could list literally hundreds but majority of them are in their 40's at least and people like The Miz and Dolph Ziggler now are about 40 and they're in their prime, my point is fake or not it's a physically demanding thing that requires this and they do get bashed about and put their bodies through hell performing almost every day throughout the year as well as of course training too so you're absolutely right. It's individual and how the person has looked after themselves, some athletes are done in their mid to late 20's when not taking care of themselves yet others are going way beyond that so it's a huge misconception that probably needs to change.
Looks like Uriah passed his prime before Saturday,
He's really been past it for 10 years.
😬 I'm watching this thinking the EXACT same thing. Age is a real thing, man. A 40 yr. Old man CAN'T have the biological DRIVE and "get em" that a 23 year old can. It's basic stuff.
He got paid though. $300 k or more to lose.
Holy shit....i think Uncle Chael is the new Chuck Norris.🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
How does this man have so many stories...
My joints hurt age 48☹️
I know you hate Tito....but for his age, and yals brutal mma lifestyle....to be in that good of shape and to still be at that level in training..is pretty impressive.
Jaromir jagr 45. There’s a list as long as my arm. Age now a days doesn’t mean what it used too. Mind is everything. Look at Tyson. Age didn’t mean anything. It was work ethic.
Jagr entered the NHL when I was I starting high school and was still in the NHL when my youngest daughter started high school. It's an incredible the career he's had, good on him.
Look at 11 time world champion surfer Kelly Slater, still killing it at 46.
Insane how every year since 2005 there’s only been like 1-2 guys who are capable of beating Urijah.
Wait are you giving a shout out to tito here uncle chael
Don’t forget dan hendo was fighting over 40 years for a long time dude fought hard level fighters
What happened to the outro music?
Hey chael
Kim Collins broke his PB at 100m with 40 year, 9:92. How crazy is that ?
I would say drugs but they're all on peds so it doesn't matter. That's impressive though.
I thank it depends on the sport as well . Certain sports I believe will diffidently improve the average rate of retirement and also the average age of when you peak at your athletic performance . But fighting sports ? Ehhh . U can eat healthy and do whatever but the fact of the matter is the DAMAGE you take can’t always be reversed the human body can only take so much .
I hate that. It is sad and uninspiring. Everytime I see a fighter far past his prime in a bout I know he didn't do enough money to retire. UFC should pay better.
Cash in
Bernard Hopkins boxed and was world champion in his 40s
Shoutout to anderson silva
“Athletes have gotten old with time” 😂🤪