He's only an under-achiever because he had the potential to go a lot farther and longer than he did. Bowe was still a great fighter. I remember watching him and Holyfield about kill each other when I was a kid. Some of the best fights in my lifetime.
I've never seen a big man like Bowe fight as well on the inside as on the outside. Bowe had a phenomenal jab and power to boot ,a real chin ,and fighting heart. He got the better of Evander when he fought Evander inside. The real shame is ,Bowe was his own worst enemy ,if he keep his mouth closed instead of eating everything in his path he would be champ as long as he wanted ,very few hwts had his natural abilities. Perhaps we will never know who wins in a Lewis/Bowe fight but I know it would be a barn burner. Still the most under rated champ ever.
I can't believe that Riddick Bowe maintains that it was Lennox Lewis that ducked him. I believe in a thing called "common sense ". I have NEVER heard of a number one contender ducking a champion. Riddick Bowe was great when he was in shape; however he was LUCKY to suffer only one defeat. He never fought Lennox. He never fought Tyson. Golota could not resist hitting him low. Evander had Hepatitis A the third time they fought. Rock Newman 'handpicked' his opponents. Besides Lewis and Tyson, Bowe never fought Razor Ruddock, Tommy Morrison, Michael Moorer, Ray Mercer, Oliver McCall, or Tony Tucker. He looked FANTASTIC the night he beat Evander and took his title, but after that he regressed. Too bad. He was good, but could have been really, really GREAT!
wussup What point are you trying to make? Bowe should have fought Lewis in 1993 for his first defense. Bowe and Newman kept that fight from happening. The Lewis vs. Holyfield draw? That is irrelevant to my original post, but the judges were wrong. Look at the punch stats. I know Bowe beat Holyfield twice, but for their third fight Evander had Hepatitis A...he was NOT at this best. What does this have to do with Bowe and Newman avoiding Lewis? Bowe looked great for Holyfield vs. Bowe 1. That was his signature fight, then he regressed. He was only the lineal champion for one year. Riddick picked the wrong manager and wasted his career.
wussup I read that a long time ago. It reads that Rock Newman and Riddick Bowe signed a "Letter of Intent" to fight Lennox Lewis as their FIRST title defense. They got the title and backed out....breaking their word, breaking the agreement. You wrote a "Bigger Money Fight"? Bowe vs. Lewis in 1993 was a guaranteed 32M Purse! That was HUGE money in 1993. Lewis' management wanted a 75/25 Split, that is 75% for Bowe and 25% for Lewis as challenger. Rock Newman refused and set a fight with a washed-up Michael Dokes. Foreman had no desire to fight Bowe or Lewis...Big George wanted to fight smaller heavyweights that he could out-muscle like Holyfield and Moorer.
We know Lewis beat Bowe in amateurs.This doesn't prove he could the same in 93-95" Lewis lost to Tyrrell Biggs and Henry Tillman in amateur's. Again this ain't prove they could beat him in pro
Agree, actually when bowe lose in olympic, the referee always stop bowe momentum with warning the use of head in round one (but we know lewis leaning on him actually)
There is no good reason for believing that Bowe would have lost against Lewis. Fans of Lewis will claim that he would have won, but they never have a good reason for believing so. Technically, Bowe had more to offer as a fighter. He had a better chin, better punching power, good jab, he can fight in the inside, and he got up when he was knocked down (unlike Lewis). The only thing Lewis had over Bowe was that he was bigger, and that he had better management.
Very sad to see a boxer like Riddick Bowe so punch drunk. I can hardly understand what he is saying. It is a big difference from his interviews when he was young and now when he is affected. Lewis was very smart, he retired when he wanted and he took little punishment, he is still sharp with his speech and mind.
Bowe would have beaten Lewis. He was more of a power puncher than Lewis. Lewis chin was questionable as well. Bowe was bigger and stronger than he was in the Olympics.
Lewis was taller, bigger, stronger, leaner than Bowe and if you listen to Rock Newman interviews, it's clear Bowe was protected by his manager against Lewis.
I can give you better reasons for why Bowe would have won, but again, they never fought, so I can only give you an educated guess for why I think he would have won. You don't have that, you're just saying he would have won because you admire him, which is a very poor reason.
I had to stop because you were not making any good points, and you were insulting Bowe and praising Lewis; rather then make good arguments for why he would Lewis would win against Bowe. You know that I destroyed you in this debate. I was not apologizing to you, I was apologizing to the gentlemen who I thought was you. Tied myself in a knot? Keep dreaming.
Anyone can use your scattershot logic: A 1996 Golota won 12 out 16 rounds against Bowe. A 1997 Golota got his skull pounded in less than 2 minutes when he fought Lewis. I guess the 28 year-old Golota was much much better than the 29 year-old version. Holyfield was 33 when he fought Lewis the second time and 41 when he fought Toney. So it's nonsense when you say Lewis should have been able "to knock out the old man like Toney did." Holyfield had already lost six times before he fought Toney.
I also have to add, that you are ignoring the fact that Bowe had already fought in 3 wars with Evander Holyfield, before he fought Galota. He was in the decline at that point, Bowe was already washed up when he fought Evander for the third time. So he washed up when he fought Galota, so that's not a good reason. Heart problems? give me a break.
,great fighter bowe. wud have loved to have seen gain lewis both at there best pretty fucking even bowe better on inside lewis better defence give slight edge to lennox overall
I think Riddick would've definitely beat Tyson. Not sure about Lennox though. Seems that Lennox would've been too mobile for Bowe, but he had trouble with Bruno so maybe not.
I really feel like wow right now. Where in the hell did all his money go. No one needs all those cars and mantions. Why didn't he save anything for later life when boxing was finished for him. I can't even feel sorry for him on that one. Speech slurring probably from that Golota beating.
Dont get me wrong he wasa top class heavyweight but not as goodas people say i keep hearing this about james toney oh if he was dedicated n same with bowe well let me tell you this dedication is a talent n a very big one ask roy jones jnr n lennox lewis the two real greats no fat boy toney n bowe
Lennox beats Bowe 7 or 8 times in 10. Of course a fighter of Bowe's power would have a chance if he connects with Lewis chin. To say Lewis fought Holyfield twice and only beat him once is stupid. Lewis beat Holyfield twice on points comfortably. Ignore the judges verdict in that first fight which was crooked.
Bowe could of been one of the greatest champions of all time> but he didn"t dedicate himself. he would of beat tyson, but lewis would of destroyed him, and he knew it.
I screwed up my dates on Lewis/Holyfield. I think I was looking at Holyfield/Bowe. Anyways lets cherry pick Bowe's opponents: Dokes, dead drug addict; Herbie Hide, currently on trial for cocaine distribution. Also an addict; Pinkon Thomas, heroin addict; Tony Tubbs, cocaine addict, just released from prison for possession; Tyrell Biggs, cocaine addict; Bert Cooper, crack cocaine addict. Anyone can play the name game and marginalize the achievements of any fighter.
You're the one who mentioned Golota, you used that as one of you're arguments. Now you're telling me that I'm defending Golota? Don't know what to say to that, I shouldn't be wasting my time with you.
yeah thats why he vacated his title.Because he was confident he could win.your such a genius.Chicken Bowe dodged Lewis because he knew he would lose his title.He dodged Tyson more than once claiming he didnt want to fight because they where from the same area.excuses excuses...fact of the matter is Bowe was an average fighter whos style clashed with Holyfields.Otherwise he wouldnt have beat anyone of any talent EVER.Bowes good at running away from fights and beating up women though
Bowe is the most criticized and hated heavyweight champ of his era - and understandably so. Hindsight is 20/20. He'll be the first to tell you that. A very complacent champion and a very lazy champion. Make no mistake though, Bowe had the most talent out of the lot of 90's heavyweights. And he would have beaten Lewis. He was the best match-up for Lewis and his jab and reach would have been ineffective against Bowe.
FactOverFiction After bowe saw lewis demolishing ruddock whom bowe avoided he decided to dicth fighting lewis the same thing he did to ruddock. Even evander stated that bowe opted to fight him 3 times same as tyson in order to avoid fighting lewis. Lewis wanted to fight bowe but bowe kept running away and avoiding the fight. Now that there is a display of Lewis's superiority and inferiority over bowe otherwise bowe would have been straight up and made the deal to take on lewis.
That's simply not true man. Those statements are only half-truths and hearsay. I'm not gonna acknowledge the hearsay because I can bring up so stuff that was said about Lewis just like you can bring stuff that was said about Bowe. All I know is that Bowe wanted to fight Bowe - there's a NY Times article floating around dated post Bowe-Holyfield 1 quoting Bowe that he wanted Lewis. But Lewis wanted to much in the deal and it fell through. To have the belief that a pro boxer, the heavyweight champ of the world at that, spent his career ducking a guy because he was afraid of him kills the argument before it begins.
FactOverFiction Its on youtube a clip by Evander Holyfield stating the facts on why bowe and tyson opted to fight holyfield rather than lewis. Bowe fought holyfield 3 times and tyson fought holyfield twice. Evander went on to say that he is grateful that those two fighters (Bowe and tyson) gave him the opportunity to fight for the title rather than fighting Lewis and in return he is happy to give lewis the chance to fight him due to the other two fighters being too scared to fight a bigger opponent. Obviously tyson and bowe wanted a smaller person. After lewis pounded ruddock in the earlier rounds whom tyson fought twice guess what happened? Tyson ducked lewis thats exactly what happened! and guess what happened to bowe who did not want to fight ruddock but opted for a drug addict michael dokes. Bowe kept ducking lewis especially after lewis dropped ruddock whom bowe refused to fight. Now your ass keeps getting schooled. why would Bowe throw his belt in the bin when lewis really wanted to fight him? theres only one answer to that and that is "Bowe was scared" of losing to lewis. You can keep talking crap here but that wont change the fact that bowe threw away the belt because he was scared, nothing but plain scared. Only fools with no brain like yourself will not get that.
Didn't realize I was dealing with a moron. So Bowe fought drug addicted Dokes and dropped him while Oliver McCall fought you're hero Lennox Lewis twice while on PCP and dropped him once and got a 'TKO' the other time because he was laughing in Lewis' face while he was hitting him. Sure, let's listen to the biased opinion of a drug upped overrated asshole on why the guy who he personally couldn't beat is better than a boxer that Ko'd him twice.GTFOH, you simple minded buffoon. Tyson fought dudes just as big as Lewis and Lewis ducked Bowe in the beginning. You obviously don't even realize that they did fight in the Olympics and Lewis got lucky on a questionable TKO call. You're obviously not gonna change you're Forrest Gump IQ having mind about you're birdbrain point of view on this matter and I'm not changing my informed opinion on the situation either. So stop messaging me and go back to blowing dudes through the glory hole of a truck stop bathroom. Bitch.
FactOverFiction Sorry mate..Lewis would have nailed Bowe to a post like he nailed Ruddock, Golota, Rahman&Tommy Morrison when he was focused and he would have been really focused after Bowe's insults..Lewis had lapses like all fighters, but when he was focused he was the man..Bowe was all talk, and talk is cheap..why was Lewis an undisputed champion Hall of Famer and Bowe a flash in the pan....because Lewis was far better..Lewis progressed, Bowe regressed... end of.. Bowe was outboxed by Golota who had some form of mental health issue at the time and was disqualified for continued low hitting..Golota had Bowe on the canvas, Bowe would have lost that fight, Golota was beating the shit out of him..Lewis pulverised Golota in one round. Holyfield who was a bumped up cruiser also beat him once..Bowe never fought Razor Ruddock or Tommy Morrison who both had the tools to beat him..Lewis hammered Ruddock in the same time it takes a kettle to boil..and Morrison didn't fare much better. Bowe was a loudmouth who unlike the other loudmouth he seemed intent on emulating, Muhammad Ali, he lacked application&consistency......beat Lewis...Lewis on a bad day would have enough to beat Bowe..on a good day he would have hammered him..
I did debate intelligently and anyone who comes to this video and see's the so called 'debate" we had; will know who came off as a gentleman (even if they did agree with you). So good day, I'm done with you.
I was just pointing out your mistakes. The fact is you have no credible reason for thinking that Lennox Lewis would beat Bowe. The only reason you think that is because you're a Lennox Lewis fan. Just because Bowe's handlers at the time made him give up the championship and not fight Lewis, does not automatically mean that Bowe would have lost against him, if they fought. If you don't want discussion, then don't post comments.
Why don't you comment at me directly? Again; you are ignoring all the arguments I laid out and you don't have one good reason for why you think Lewis would have beat Bowe. Everyone you listed that Lewis beat was already washed up and beaten before he got to them. Again; Bowe beat Holyfield convincingly, twice; in his PRIME. When Bowe fought Golota; he had already been in 3 wars with Holyfield and was already washed up. He also fought an undefeated Golota, unlike Lewis who fought him washed up.
Do you know how to use the REPLY button? (and you're trying to claim that I'm ignorant?). The irony. I agree his manager Rock Newman, like you; had very little knowledge about boxing and protected Bowe against Lewis. That doesn't mean that Lewis would have won. Just because Lewis was bigger; does not mean he automatically would have won. Bowe had a better chin, he was a better inside fighter and he also had a good jab and can fight going in as well as going out.
It has nothing to do with admiration. Again, what makes you believe that he would have lost against Lewis? There is no good reason technically, Lewis also fought bumbs his whole career and never fought anybody he didn't have an edge over. You are just saying it because you like the guy, we'll, that has nothing to do with boxing. If he was so clumsy and slow, then how did he beat Holyfield? (in his prime, unlike Lewis). You can't just say that he would have won against Bowe because you like him.
Bowe was washed up in the third fight with Holyfield. You can just look at their first match together and see the difference in the third fight, and he still knocked out Holyfield; when Lewis couldn't. Lewis also fought a Holyfield who was in the decline. You know you don't have any good reason for thinking Bowe would have lost.
Again; you're ignoring all my points and you're not commenting at me directly (basically talking to yourself, convincing yourself that you have a good point). I never said "PRIME Golota" so you're not even listening. I said UNDEFEATED Golota and Bowe was already washed up at that point, but you're just going to ignore that. Golota was in shape and hungry for the title at that point (your Golota argument is pathetic, really). Again you have no good reason for thinking that Lewsi would beat Bowe.
Big Bow, is apsoluthli right, when imitating the boring style of Lewis.Bow is a best five undiputid heavyweight wariors EVER in the world!!! Who now's what is the changing, bat when i see Riddick'"s body after Golota...?! I think , happend one of the biggest mistake with he's nutricionista...I remember, waiting figt, waiting mi man, who don't hew body of atlets, bat when he caught the kmera...Only Ali look like is strongest of Riddick... And ewery match is go to the history, to the box when he (Bowe) step to the ring...! Like a greatest Ali!!! And after golota, we, ewerybodi starting with questions...Riddicc is beutiful, bat wer is the body ?! He's face look very tier...Mim frend, who is a treiner hier in Szabadka tell mi:to much time, to much trening....Hes body and mind is so tierd...
Anyway I enjoy talking to people with boxing knowledge and I have fun debating and arguing with people about it. You don't have any knowledge about boxing; thinking that Lewis was one of the best boxers of all time proves it, along with all the other ridiculous comments you made. So i did not enjoy this debate it was rather easy and foolish to be arguing with you.
I defenetly agree whit the Jean-Paul Wallet ... If Lewis fought Bowe betwen 93-95 he would lose! Amateur is different than Professional. Proven over and over again...Riddick was unusually good inside fighter as well as a outside. Lewis could barely beat an aged Tony Tucker and got a gift win vs Mercer! Lewis's team cherry picked at the highest scale! Ah let Tyson erode in prison!And others to beat each other up! Yes Lewis was robed In first Holyfield fight!But not in second!
Actually I think Riddick would have some hard time whit Mike. But also that Mike would have hard time whit Riddick.Can't say for sure...But I know that desigion would lie by who wants it most and is better prepared. On the other hand.Riddick would beat Lewis before Lewis teamed up whit Emmanuel. After Emmanuel I still think Riddick wins over Lewis.
Who did Riddick Bowe actually beat apart from Holyfield? Who did he fight as champion? This guy is the most over-rated fighter from the US, since D. Wilder. He never fought Morisson, Mercer, Ruddock, Lewis, Briggs, Tyson, the list goes on. Galota gave him permanent brain damage.
Are you crazy? That was an amateur bout. Means nothing when both fighters are still learning, Pro and Amateur are completely different things. Golota? a washed up Tyson beat Golota in three rounds. Bowe also fought Golota when Bowe was in the decline, he already been in 3 wars with Holyfield before he fought Galota.
+rick rich Wow, in two comments you've gone from xenophobia towards the British to xenophobia on a global scale. Generally though you just come across as very insecure about your country. But I agree, Bowe was no bum and on his day would've have been a match for any heavyweight. Unfortunately, he lacked dedication to back up the talent.
I ain't talking about Tyson himself. And yes Styles do make fights.Lewis couldn't beat Oliver.He had Huge problems whit Bruno.Got a gift victory over Mercer.And most defenetlty didn't deserve a win in the second Holy fight.
Well, you don't know that because it never happened. Lewis won in 88 against Bowe. Lewis cherry picked just like Tyson, Foreman, and Bowe did. Bowe got his ass kicked twice by Gollota because styles make fights. Lewis was just as gifted but his career is better because he was smarter in his fights. Oh, and whose fault was it that Tyson went to prison? Lennox Lewis? Evander Holyfield? Tyson is the worst example of champion.
The guy beat Holyfield twice, way more convincingly then Lennox ever did and he fought Evander when he was in his prime. They never wanted to give Bowe the credit and said that Holyfield had heart problems in the third fight which was a bunch of garbage (Bowe didn't bring in pay per views, so they didn't want him as champ). Lennox is lucky he never fought Bowe, because Bowe would have done a lot worse to Lennox then Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman did to him, (Bowe never got knocked out).
Well, you don't know that because it never happened. Lewis won in 88 against Bowe. Lewis cherry picked just like Tyson, Foreman, and Bowe did. Bowe got his ass kicked twice by Gollota because styles make fights. Lewis was just as gifted but his career is better because he was smarter in his fights. Oh, and whose fault was it that Tyson went to prison? Lennox Lewis? Evander Holyfield? Tyson is the worst example of champion.
He was 1 of my favourite boxers.He had it all,could have been the greatiest hw boxer ever.
The 3 Riddick Bowe Holyfield Fights were classic, historically great fights.
This guy had sooo much skill. He had it all. Jab, power Eddie Futch. He threw it away though. Peaked early.
He's only an under-achiever because he had the potential to go a lot farther and longer than he did. Bowe was still a great fighter. I remember watching him and Holyfield about kill each other when I was a kid. Some of the best fights in my lifetime.
Thanks for all the great fights, champ.
Amazing Bowe great boxer
Lovely man
I hope his truly happy
I've never seen a big man like Bowe fight as well on the inside as on the outside. Bowe had a phenomenal jab and power to boot ,a real chin ,and fighting heart. He got the better of Evander when he fought Evander inside. The real shame is ,Bowe was his own worst enemy ,if he keep his mouth closed instead of eating everything in his path he would be champ as long as he wanted ,very few hwts had his natural abilities. Perhaps we will never know who wins in a Lewis/Bowe fight but I know it would be a barn burner. Still the most under rated champ ever.
It hurts my heart seeing Riddick slurring his words so badly.
Riddick Bowe is a beast.
I can't believe that Riddick Bowe maintains that it was Lennox Lewis that ducked him. I believe in a thing called "common sense ". I have NEVER heard of a number one contender ducking a champion. Riddick Bowe was great when he was in shape; however he was LUCKY to suffer only one defeat. He never fought Lennox. He never fought Tyson. Golota could not resist hitting him low. Evander had Hepatitis A the third time they fought. Rock Newman 'handpicked' his opponents. Besides Lewis and Tyson, Bowe never fought Razor Ruddock, Tommy Morrison, Michael Moorer, Ray Mercer, Oliver McCall, or Tony Tucker. He looked FANTASTIC the night he beat Evander and took his title, but after that he regressed. Too bad. He was good, but could have been really, really GREAT!
wussup What point are you trying to make? Bowe should have fought Lewis in 1993 for his first defense. Bowe and Newman kept that fight from happening. The Lewis vs. Holyfield draw? That is irrelevant to my original post, but the judges were wrong. Look at the punch stats. I know Bowe beat Holyfield twice, but for their third fight Evander had Hepatitis A...he was NOT at this best. What does this have to do with Bowe and Newman avoiding Lewis? Bowe looked great for Holyfield vs. Bowe 1. That was his signature fight, then he regressed. He was only the lineal champion for one year. Riddick picked the wrong manager and wasted his career.
wussup I read that a long time ago. It reads that Rock Newman and Riddick Bowe signed a "Letter of Intent" to fight Lennox Lewis as their FIRST title defense. They got the title and backed out....breaking their word, breaking the agreement. You wrote a "Bigger Money Fight"? Bowe vs. Lewis in 1993 was a guaranteed 32M Purse! That was HUGE money in 1993. Lewis' management wanted a 75/25 Split, that is 75% for Bowe and 25% for Lewis as challenger. Rock Newman refused and set a fight with a washed-up Michael Dokes. Foreman had no desire to fight Bowe or Lewis...Big George wanted to fight smaller heavyweights that he could out-muscle like Holyfield and Moorer.
Bowe was a beast & always will be!!
Bowe had been living a mile from my home in Orlando fl but have not seen him in some time now
We know Lewis beat Bowe in amateurs.This doesn't prove he could the same in 93-95"
Lewis lost to Tyrrell Biggs and Henry Tillman in amateur's.
Again this ain't prove they could beat him in pro
Agree, actually when bowe lose in olympic, the referee always stop bowe momentum with warning the use of head in round one (but we know lewis leaning on him actually)
God bless him
wouldn't want to take a punch of bowe in his day .strong strong guy
There is no good reason for believing that Bowe would have lost against Lewis. Fans of Lewis will claim that he would have won, but they never have a good reason for believing so. Technically, Bowe had more to offer as a fighter. He had a better chin, better punching power, good jab, he can fight in the inside, and he got up when he was knocked down (unlike Lewis). The only thing Lewis had over Bowe was that he was bigger, and that he had better management.
imagine a conversation b'tween mr Ali n mr Bowe... xD
Very sad to see a boxer like Riddick Bowe so punch drunk. I can hardly understand what he is saying. It is a big difference from his interviews when he was young and now when he is affected. Lewis was very smart, he retired when he wanted and he took little punishment, he is still sharp with his speech and mind.
thats not being drunk, thats a speech deficit many boxers get
+Atif Bashir especially seen when u get hit on the side of ur skull for a longtime. and 40+ fights is a longtime for a heavy weight boxer!!
Bowe would have beaten Lewis. He was more of a power puncher than Lewis. Lewis chin was questionable as well. Bowe was bigger and stronger than he was in the Olympics.
That upper cut is devastating
thank you. made the same argument myself.
Lewis was taller, bigger, stronger, leaner than Bowe and if you listen to Rock Newman interviews, it's clear Bowe was protected by his manager against Lewis.
I guess he forgot he put his WBC belt in the garbage then face Lennox Lewis, his mandatory at the time.
I can give you better reasons for why Bowe would have won, but again, they never fought, so I can only give you an educated guess for why I think he would have won. You don't have that, you're just saying he would have won because you admire him, which is a very poor reason.
Bowe was a beast, he should have went down as ons of the greatest of all time. The guy beat Holyfield twice and was a multiple world champion.
I had to stop because you were not making any good points, and you were insulting Bowe and praising Lewis; rather then make good arguments for why he would Lewis would win against Bowe. You know that I destroyed you in this debate. I was not apologizing to you, I was apologizing to the gentlemen who I thought was you. Tied myself in a knot? Keep dreaming.
god hes got brain damage
Anyone can use your scattershot logic: A 1996 Golota won 12 out 16 rounds against Bowe. A 1997 Golota got his skull pounded in less than 2 minutes when he fought Lewis. I guess the 28 year-old Golota was much much better than the 29 year-old version. Holyfield was 33 when he fought Lewis the second time and 41 when he fought Toney. So it's nonsense when you say Lewis should have been able "to knock out the old man like Toney did." Holyfield had already lost six times before he fought Toney.
hes got that labored speech thing going on reminds me of so many others with brain damage.. ken norton, leon spinks so many
your happy with a beautiful wife and a beautiful daughter , lol, think you got more than that !!!!!
RIDDICK BOWE KICK ASS !!!!!!!!
I also have to add, that you are ignoring the fact that Bowe had already fought in 3 wars with Evander Holyfield, before he fought Galota. He was in the decline at that point, Bowe was already washed up when he fought Evander for the third time. So he washed up when he fought Galota, so that's not a good reason. Heart problems? give me a break.
,great fighter bowe. wud have loved to have seen gain lewis both at there best pretty fucking even bowe better on inside lewis better defence give slight edge to lennox overall
Lewis would have sparked him out
Not sure about that as they both had good left jabs, bowe had a better uppercut and attack
1986ant1986 ARE YOU SURE GUY?
Lewis would have but bowe cowered out and did not fight
1986ant1986 lewis would have gotten bounced off the canvas, he ducked every good prime fighter of that era.
I think Riddick would've definitely beat Tyson. Not sure about Lennox though. Seems that Lennox would've been too mobile for Bowe, but he had trouble with Bruno so maybe not.
I really feel like wow right now. Where in the hell did all his money go. No one needs all those cars and mantions. Why didn't he save anything for later life when boxing was finished for him. I can't even feel sorry for him on that one. Speech slurring probably from that Golota beating.
Tramaine Mason shut yo stupid saggy fuck face up 😂😂😂😂
Dont get me wrong he wasa top class heavyweight but not as goodas people say i keep hearing this about james toney oh if he was dedicated n same with bowe well let me tell you this dedication is a talent n a very big one ask roy jones jnr n lennox lewis the two real greats no fat boy toney n bowe
Lennox beats Bowe 7 or 8 times in 10. Of course a fighter of Bowe's power would have a chance if he connects with Lewis chin. To say Lewis fought Holyfield twice and only beat him once is stupid. Lewis beat Holyfield twice on points comfortably. Ignore the judges verdict in that first fight which was crooked.
Bowe could of been one of the greatest champions of all time> but he didn"t dedicate himself. he would of beat tyson, but lewis would of destroyed him, and he knew it.
why didn't he fight Tyson?
Because he and Tyson were friends from childhood, neither wanted to fight the other.
I have to also add; that Bowe had a better punch then Lewis.
I screwed up my dates on Lewis/Holyfield. I think I was looking at Holyfield/Bowe. Anyways lets cherry pick Bowe's opponents: Dokes, dead drug addict; Herbie Hide, currently on trial for cocaine distribution. Also an addict; Pinkon Thomas, heroin addict; Tony Tubbs, cocaine addict, just released from prison for possession; Tyrell Biggs, cocaine addict; Bert Cooper, crack cocaine addict. Anyone can play the name game and marginalize the achievements of any fighter.
You're the one who mentioned Golota, you used that as one of you're arguments. Now you're telling me that I'm defending Golota? Don't know what to say to that, I shouldn't be wasting my time with you.
yeah thats why he vacated his title.Because he was confident he could win.your such a genius.Chicken Bowe dodged Lewis because he knew he would lose his title.He dodged Tyson more than once claiming he didnt want to fight because they where from the same area.excuses excuses...fact of the matter is Bowe was an average fighter whos style clashed with Holyfields.Otherwise he wouldnt have beat anyone of any talent EVER.Bowes good at running away from fights and beating up women though
Bowe is the most criticized and hated heavyweight champ of his era - and understandably so. Hindsight is 20/20. He'll be the first to tell you that. A very complacent champion and a very lazy champion. Make no mistake though, Bowe had the most talent out of the lot of 90's heavyweights. And he would have beaten Lewis. He was the best match-up for Lewis and his jab and reach would have been ineffective against Bowe.
FactOverFiction After bowe saw lewis demolishing ruddock whom bowe avoided he decided to dicth fighting lewis the same thing he did to ruddock. Even evander stated that bowe opted to fight him 3 times same as tyson in order to avoid fighting lewis. Lewis wanted to fight bowe but bowe kept running away and avoiding the fight. Now that there is a display of Lewis's superiority and inferiority over bowe otherwise bowe would have been straight up and made the deal to take on lewis.
That's simply not true man. Those statements are only half-truths and hearsay. I'm not gonna acknowledge the hearsay because I can bring up so stuff that was said about Lewis just like you can bring stuff that was said about Bowe. All I know is that Bowe wanted to fight Bowe - there's a NY Times article floating around dated post Bowe-Holyfield 1 quoting Bowe that he wanted Lewis. But Lewis wanted to much in the deal and it fell through. To have the belief that a pro boxer, the heavyweight champ of the world at that, spent his career ducking a guy because he was afraid of him kills the argument before it begins.
FactOverFiction Its on youtube a clip by Evander Holyfield stating the facts on why bowe and tyson opted to fight holyfield rather than lewis. Bowe fought holyfield 3 times and tyson fought holyfield twice. Evander went on to say that he is grateful that those two fighters (Bowe and tyson) gave him the opportunity to fight for the title rather than fighting Lewis and in return he is happy to give lewis the chance to fight him due to the other two fighters being too scared to fight a bigger opponent. Obviously tyson and bowe wanted a smaller person. After lewis pounded ruddock in the earlier rounds whom tyson fought twice guess what happened? Tyson ducked lewis thats exactly what happened! and guess what happened to bowe who did not want to fight ruddock but opted for a drug addict michael dokes. Bowe kept ducking lewis especially after lewis dropped ruddock whom bowe refused to fight. Now your ass keeps getting schooled. why would Bowe throw his belt in the bin when lewis really wanted to fight him? theres only one answer to that and that is "Bowe was scared" of losing to lewis. You can keep talking crap here but that wont change the fact that bowe threw away the belt because he was scared, nothing but plain scared. Only fools with no brain like yourself will not get that.
Didn't realize I was dealing with a moron. So Bowe fought drug addicted Dokes and dropped him while Oliver McCall fought you're hero Lennox Lewis twice while on PCP and dropped him once and got a 'TKO' the other time because he was laughing in Lewis' face while he was hitting him. Sure, let's listen to the biased opinion of a drug upped overrated asshole on why the guy who he personally couldn't beat is better than a boxer that Ko'd him twice.GTFOH, you simple minded buffoon. Tyson fought dudes just as big as Lewis and Lewis ducked Bowe in the beginning. You obviously don't even realize that they did fight in the Olympics and Lewis got lucky on a questionable TKO call. You're obviously not gonna change you're Forrest Gump IQ having mind about you're birdbrain point of view on this matter and I'm not changing my informed opinion on the situation either. So stop messaging me and go back to blowing dudes through the glory hole of a truck stop bathroom. Bitch.
FactOverFiction Sorry mate..Lewis would have nailed Bowe to a post like he nailed Ruddock, Golota, Rahman&Tommy Morrison when he was focused and he would have been really focused after Bowe's insults..Lewis had lapses like all fighters, but when he was focused he was the man..Bowe was all talk, and talk is cheap..why was Lewis an undisputed champion Hall of Famer and Bowe a flash in the pan....because Lewis was far better..Lewis progressed, Bowe regressed... end of..
Bowe was outboxed by Golota who had some form of mental health issue at the time and was disqualified for continued low hitting..Golota had Bowe on the canvas, Bowe would have lost that fight, Golota was beating the shit out of him..Lewis pulverised Golota in one round.
Holyfield who was a bumped up cruiser also beat him once..Bowe never fought Razor Ruddock or Tommy Morrison who both had the tools to beat him..Lewis hammered Ruddock in the same time it takes a kettle to boil..and Morrison didn't fare much better.
Bowe was a loudmouth who unlike the other loudmouth he seemed intent on emulating, Muhammad Ali, he lacked application&consistency......beat Lewis...Lewis on a bad day would have enough to beat Bowe..on a good day he would have hammered him..
I did debate intelligently and anyone who comes to this video and see's the so called 'debate" we had; will know who came off as a gentleman (even if they did agree with you). So good day, I'm done with you.
I was just pointing out your mistakes. The fact is you have no credible reason for thinking that Lennox Lewis would beat Bowe. The only reason you think that is because you're a Lennox Lewis fan. Just because Bowe's handlers at the time made him give up the championship and not fight Lewis, does not automatically mean that Bowe would have lost against him, if they fought. If you don't want discussion, then don't post comments.
that fried chicken bwoy...
Why don't you comment at me directly? Again; you are ignoring all the arguments I laid out and you don't have one good reason for why you think Lewis would have beat Bowe. Everyone you listed that Lewis beat was already washed up and beaten before he got to them. Again; Bowe beat Holyfield convincingly, twice; in his PRIME. When Bowe fought Golota; he had already been in 3 wars with Holyfield and was already washed up. He also fought an undefeated Golota, unlike Lewis who fought him washed up.
I apologies; my previous comment was meant for someone else. Sorry for that.
Do you know how to use the REPLY button? (and you're trying to claim that I'm ignorant?). The irony. I agree his manager Rock Newman, like you; had very little knowledge about boxing and protected Bowe against Lewis. That doesn't mean that Lewis would have won. Just because Lewis was bigger; does not mean he automatically would have won. Bowe had a better chin, he was a better inside fighter and he also had a good jab and can fight going in as well as going out.
It has nothing to do with admiration. Again, what makes you believe that he would have lost against Lewis? There is no good reason technically, Lewis also fought bumbs his whole career and never fought anybody he didn't have an edge over. You are just saying it because you like the guy, we'll, that has nothing to do with boxing. If he was so clumsy and slow, then how did he beat Holyfield? (in his prime, unlike Lewis). You can't just say that he would have won against Bowe because you like him.
Bowe was washed up in the third fight with Holyfield. You can just look at their first match together and see the difference in the third fight, and he still knocked out Holyfield; when Lewis couldn't. Lewis also fought a Holyfield who was in the decline. You know you don't have any good reason for thinking Bowe would have lost.
Absolutely right man...
Again; you're ignoring all my points and you're not commenting at me directly (basically talking to yourself, convincing yourself that you have a good point). I never said "PRIME Golota" so you're not even listening. I said UNDEFEATED Golota and Bowe was already washed up at that point, but you're just going to ignore that. Golota was in shape and hungry for the title at that point (your Golota argument is pathetic, really). Again you have no good reason for thinking that Lewsi would beat Bowe.
Big Bow, is apsoluthli right, when imitating the boring style of Lewis.Bow is a best five undiputid heavyweight wariors EVER in the world!!! Who now's what is the changing, bat when i see Riddick'"s body after Golota...?! I think , happend one of the biggest mistake with he's nutricionista...I remember, waiting figt, waiting mi man, who don't hew body of atlets, bat when he caught the kmera...Only Ali look like is strongest of Riddick... And ewery match is go to the history, to the box when he (Bowe) step to the ring...! Like a greatest Ali!!! And after golota, we, ewerybodi starting with questions...Riddicc is beutiful, bat wer is the body ?! He's face look very tier...Mim frend, who is a treiner hier in Szabadka tell mi:to much time, to much trening....Hes body and mind is so tierd...
Ferenc Péter first time I’ve ever seen someone spell absolutely like that
Rid dock I think u will find it was u who was afraid to fight lewis
one of your* arguments.;)
Anyway I enjoy talking to people with boxing knowledge and I have fun debating and arguing with people about it. You don't have any knowledge about boxing; thinking that Lewis was one of the best boxers of all time proves it, along with all the other ridiculous comments you made. So i did not enjoy this debate it was rather easy and foolish to be arguing with you.
I defenetly agree whit the Jean-Paul Wallet ...
If Lewis fought Bowe betwen 93-95 he would lose!
Amateur is different than Professional. Proven over and over again...Riddick was unusually good inside fighter as well as a outside.
Lewis could barely beat an aged Tony Tucker and got a gift win vs Mercer!
Lewis's team cherry picked at the highest scale! Ah let Tyson erode in prison!And others to beat each other up!
Yes Lewis was robed In first Holyfield fight!But not in second!
Actually I think Riddick would have some hard time whit Mike.
But also that Mike would have hard time whit Riddick.Can't say for sure...But I know that desigion would lie by who wants it most and is better prepared.
On the other hand.Riddick would beat Lewis before Lewis teamed up whit Emmanuel.
After Emmanuel I still think Riddick wins over Lewis.
Who did Riddick Bowe actually beat apart from Holyfield? Who did he fight as champion? This guy is the most over-rated fighter from the US, since D. Wilder. He never fought Morisson, Mercer, Ruddock, Lewis, Briggs, Tyson, the list goes on. Galota gave him permanent brain damage.
+OS993 so his brains literally were in his trousers then...
OS993 you don't know shit about boxing
Are you crazy? That was an amateur bout. Means nothing when both fighters are still learning, Pro and Amateur are completely different things. Golota? a washed up Tyson beat Golota in three rounds. Bowe also fought Golota when Bowe was in the decline, he already been in 3 wars with Holyfield before he fought Galota.
But I ain't saying that Lewis was bad eighter.
Whit Emmanuel he became vary good.Last great Champion.
Its the Klitschko's who I don't like
Lewis would've destroyed him
Lewis is a highly respected ATG with a $150m net worth whilst Bowe hangs around the big fights hustling fans for $20 an autograph. BUM!
fucking bum was from England but fighting for canada. what the fuck kinda man is that? lol typical overseas bum.
+rick rich Wow, in two comments you've gone from xenophobia towards the British to xenophobia on a global scale. Generally though you just come across as very insecure about your country. But I agree, Bowe was no bum and on his day would've have been a match for any heavyweight. Unfortunately, he lacked dedication to back up the talent.
Ignorant comment that has nothing to do with the topic...
RoidWatch lewis? An all time great? Really? That’s too generous
rick rich lol benn smashed your top middleweight
I ain't talking about Tyson himself. And yes Styles do make fights.Lewis couldn't beat Oliver.He had Huge problems whit Bruno.Got a gift victory over Mercer.And most defenetlty didn't deserve a win in the second Holy fight.
he was stupid. he lost everything & used to work as bus driver.
rock newman destroyed him, robbed him
Well, you don't know that because it never happened. Lewis won in 88 against Bowe. Lewis cherry picked just like Tyson, Foreman, and Bowe did. Bowe got his ass kicked twice by Gollota because styles make fights. Lewis was just as gifted but his career is better because he was smarter in his fights. Oh, and whose fault was it that Tyson went to prison? Lennox Lewis? Evander Holyfield? Tyson is the worst example of champion.
Big daddy would fucked Lewis up.. IDGAF what anyone says.
The guy beat Holyfield twice, way more convincingly then Lennox ever did and he fought Evander when he was in his prime. They never wanted to give Bowe the credit and said that Holyfield had heart problems in the third fight which was a bunch of garbage (Bowe didn't bring in pay per views, so they didn't want him as champ). Lennox is lucky he never fought Bowe, because Bowe would have done a lot worse to Lennox then Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman did to him, (Bowe never got knocked out).
Well, you don't know that because it never happened. Lewis won in 88 against Bowe. Lewis cherry picked just like Tyson, Foreman, and Bowe did. Bowe got his ass kicked twice by Gollota because styles make fights. Lewis was just as gifted but his career is better because he was smarter in his fights. Oh, and whose fault was it that Tyson went to prison? Lennox Lewis? Evander Holyfield? Tyson is the worst example of champion.
Lewis fought everyone who was anyone in the heavyweight division except Bowe.
And beat them all.