500 Teens Trapped On An Island With A Madman Thatâs Hunting Them
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Hi Steph my name is Davina and I really love your content, Iâm from Congo and I donât know if you guys know because the media doesnât really talk about it ,thereâs a silent genocide going on in Congo where kids are forced to eat the family members own flesh after being killed , they are raped and exported in mines and are forced to work , a lot of atrocious and evil stuff are happening there pls help me to let them know that their are not alone , i hope youâre recovering well I wish you a lot of good things in your life and your husband,lots of love đ
I am so sorry. Who does this? đ„ș maybe we can get people around the world protesting to put attention on it?
How is it possible that people don't know of such a thing? It's disgusting. How are people ignoring genocide so easily?
Apparently people suck ass at interpreting things
When I say "people ignoring it" I mean the media and the government. Not us general people
This comment should be on theđ
We can get it to the top
Davina I'm sorry! I have faith in Stephanie and her team â€
âIf death hasnât come for me, why should I go to it?â
thatâs the indomitable human spirit
Very wise my friend â€âš
âshe was ready to die. She wanted to die quickly. She waited to die. She never died. If it was survival instinct, she wouldn't have thought all of that. When she never died. She knew she had to survive, She Survived. At this point She had an unbreakable spirit, and she had an unbreakable survival instinct.
"WE WERE BORN TO INHERIT THE STARS" (they scream as they charge towards the guy)
â@@ktxoxie772of
In HS I was at a party that got busted. I talked to the cops through the window, gave them all of my information and then they went to wait out front for all of us. All of the other kids walked out, got in line, and got MIPs.
I drunkenly thought ânah, they can come in here if they want to give me one.â I crawled into bed and went to sleepâŠ
Woke up an hour or so later to all of my friends drinking. They all got MIPs and I didnât lmao.
Never make it easy.
The Norwegian singer *AURORA* who
played the role of "The Voice" in _Frozen II,_ lost friends in the massacre. She wrote a chilling song entitled _âBoy In The Grass.â_
I will tell you the story about the little boy I found in the grass
Tired soul as he told me he could hear the children wanting to pass
Sounds of laughter in the air
Still today we hear them
Finally we are over it all
Finally we are over, over it all
Let them run from the violence
The world is way too cold and bright for their eyes
Little boy runs beside them
As they take his hand and jump to the sky
Still today you hear him
Finally I am over
Over it all
Finally I am over
Over it all
When will my healing come?
I had no idea that their passing was from this! Such a beautiful song it stings even more now knowing đđ
dang. and thats the only song from her i've heard, other than the one she did for one piece live action
I have heard Running to the Sea by Royksopp was about this incident. It's such a haunting song
I saw a statistic in a fact page about her that said something along the lines of âmost Norwegians knew a victim.â
The scariest part is that there are so many men out there who think the same way like him
Thatâs what I was thinkingâŠ..
but the comforting part is that no matter how many people that think like him, they are in a an extreme minority and people will forever look down on those people and stand up for whats right
women too
Thatâs why we will always pick the bear đ»
@@ProfessorGoobinizerPIPE DOWN, MALE, YOU ARENT A VICTIM, THIS ISNT ABOUT YOU.
This man murdered almost 100 children and is living life better than the some middle class families in the US this is insane
YT PRIVILEGES
@@nubiangoddess2323 itÂŽs the scandi prison system and itÂŽs the same for everyone that goes to prison here. And though it might seem unfair in a case like this, it works, we have some of the lowest levels of reoffending in the world because our prison system is like this.
â@@noreaeron but does reoffending really matter in the case of such a high-risk person? Like Stephanie said, there's no chance he's getting out even if there's re-evaluation of his case for parole.
I don't understand why he gets to live in peace without any regrets while families around the world can barely afford decent housing and other necessities. He's a monster who's getting cradled by the prison system.
@@noreaeron the problem is justice. In America people who simply had 20 grams of weed are being r-warded in prisons while your sick pathetic citizens who hate people who are not blonde with blue eyes live in practical luxury. You would think for crimes like mass murderers rules would be amended but I see there is no strong sense of justice in that coutnry
@@nancy-qj4eg yeah, like reintegration is a great cause that I also believe in but in cases of life sentences without a chance for parole, reintegration is out of the question, so maybe these people shouldn't get the same nice reintegration treatment
Daaamn that girl survived because she wanted to insult her enemy and read a Harry Potter book before she died. Badass ngl. Very straightforward bucket list
if being on tumblr taught me anything it's that fandom and pettiness are truly underrated survival skills
â@@Steph-zo5zklol
I wish I was as motivated as her đ
I knew one story in my country that a person told is friend, if he ever died, read the latest episode of naruto by his grave. He unfortunately did die, and his friend is honoring his wish.
"Perish"
"Nuh uh"
The kid that pretended to not have an arm for weeks,so he could give his brother pointers when he woke up. Man,that part got me. đ
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Same â€â€đą
Itâs so sweet especially knowing how older brother was fighting to keep him alive and untouched.
same man, i dont think ive shed a tear in 10 years but that part got me too
Sobbing fr đ
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the absolute fuckery that was the police rescue operation on the island. Allow me to explain it, as described by Wikipedia. Police were called within a few minutes of the shooting, and realized they didn't have a proper helicopter to fly them out to the island. They had to take a vehicle instead. It took police 40 minutes just to get to the dock. When they arrived there, several civilians were already rescuing kids in the water by boat. Police told them to fuck off. Then the police realized that the ferry which was normally used to transport people from the dock to the island had been driven several minutes away after the shooting started. They had to sit around and wait for another official police boat to arrive to take them across the water. In the meantime, police were told to "observe and report" while they waited. They sat on their asses for about 20 minutes until the official boat finally arrived. They all hopped in, started going across the water, and the engine died. They fuckered around with the engine for a few minutes, then eventually they all just got into a civilian boat anyways, and finally arrived on the island, over an hour after the shooting started.
As soon as they saw Breivik, he surrendered. No confrontation, no nothing. It was that easy. Also, the police arrested one of the survivors on the island because he had a suspicious haircut. They kept him in custody for 17 hours and interrogated him before finally realizing how stupid they were, and released him.
absolutely disgusting of them
@@urami54 We think Uvalde was disgusting. I can't even imagine what it must have been like for the police to just sit around doing fuck-all while a maniac with a gun was playing target practice with a bunch of kids trapped on an island. And they told the civilians to stop rescuing kids from the water. Like wtf.
Her asses purposely left that part out because she didnt want to offend the norwegian police department.
@@urami54 yeah the folks in charge not the officers
@@ijustwannabehappier-v4973maybe she didnât know thatâs crazy
imagine brutally killing 77 and injuring more than probably hundreds, getting arrested but STILL living a life better than the victims
It's hateful is what it is.
i mean the lives of the victims families are better than his. the quality of life is amazing in norway and their crime rates and recidivism rates are incredible. so... idk
@@cjscatcat idk it seems more like a society that can operate without the need to satisfy their bloodlust and revenge
@@cheycheyfriend247 what he did .. goes beyond any normal crime and there should be no release for a person of his ilk .. I'm sorry, I may think that Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland all have amazing rates for things that are out of control here and in other countries, but when it comes to mass crimes such as this one, there is no rehab that would guarantee he wouldn't reoffend and is his life worth risking another 100+ lives or more?
I don't think normal circumstances apply to things like this. It's in the arena of a war crime or an act of terrorism (whether viewed as domestic or international) ... imho I would have considered the death penalty for such a crime and I won't apologize for thinking that the lives of 100+ children/adults are worth one who values so little the lives of others.
Why should the citizens of Norway have to pay for his incarceration after what he did? That's why it is so absolutely hateful, not only does he live in comfort, but his victims families are part of the country he is incarcerated in so therefore their taxes contribute to his well being! It's downright insulting to the victims and their families that he is allowed so many luxuries and so little of what most normal people would want him to endure - less creature comfort, daily doses of hard work and some sort of non violence regime whether through religion or some other form. Not to mention mental health sessions ... not violent video games. That makes my stomach turn. Idc if he never gets out, he is reliving his greatest moments every time he plays those games, it's sick. It's like allowing a pedophile to watch children at their leisure. That's just my opinion but I've got a few years on me and I think I speak for a lot of folks just like me.
@@cjscatcat Yap yap, long story for saying youre a sociopath with lusts for killing
the fact that the small island is heart shape is so much more disturbing
Right?
I had to check it's not the miss mango butt channel
Why is it disturbing?
Itâs crazt
The heart-shaped island adds a chilling contrast to the horror of the situation. It's an eerie reminder of the vulnerability and innocence of the trapped teens, juxtaposed against the sinister intentions of the madman. The symbolism of the heart shape, typically associated with love and warmth, makes the scenario even more disturbing, highlighting the stark contrast between the idyllic appearance of the island and the terrifying reality of their situation.â@@AmithVikramPictures
Holy fuck, I lived a dorm thatâs so much smaller than his âprisonâ.
Never having to worry about money, no responsibilities, food made for you every day, I can just have a pet and play video games all day?!?!?! Please arrest me now!!!!
that's because he can never be blamed for what happened and he is treated accordingly (put in quarantine)
@@Danuxsy What.
@@KumaraDosha Determinism.
@@Danuxsy Youâre insane, donât talk about theories like theyâre facts.
it's not a great time still.. you're isolated from everything and will never be free again. You dont have freedom or anything like that, it's not a good time -_-
This is a small detail that I would like to add. Some of the teens that were killed were from my local high school. I didnât know them personally, but there is a memorial outside the school and I see it very often. Several of these stone âstatuesâ are placed all over norway outside school that the kids were from.
From Norway here. The police never walks around with a gun and itâs ONLY used in highly dangerous situations. So if the bomb hadnât happened, anders with a gun and a police uniform would make people call the police because itâs so strange, but because of the bomb attack it made sense that he had the gun when he went to the island
I was just gonna comment that. I have a friend from Norway. When I was visiting I saw police just holding baton sticks, no gun unless needed.
Thank you for sharing this detail.
They kinda changed the approach since this event though, now they at least keep guns in their cars. Earlier they usually had to go back to the police station to get a gun.
I remember arguing with him on some online forum (nettby or something) and I still think about whether I could have changed his mind if I'd taken him more seriously.. He only talked about the problem of Islam though, never mentioned his thoughts on what it meant in his head. I remember the shock and eerie feeling I got when I saw his face on national TV.. (I've seen this guy, and then I remembered when they displayed one of his profile pictures) I still wonder whether I could have changed his mind if I had been better at debating.. But I'm not sure stupidity has a cure..
â@@ysteinberg5084 you talked to him online before this? What was the debate about
@@cecil2742 A few years earlier, around 2006 I think. He wanted people to agree with him that muslims was horrible, seemed to assume that all muslims was part of the muslim brotherhood that wanted to spread islam throughout the world. The moment anyone suggested that, maybe most muslims arenât jihadists he seemed to get angry, and thought people were naive.. Which might be the case, people are naive when it comes to Islam, but that doesnât make him right.. According to his - for the most part nonsensical - manifest he seemed to think that the only way to deal with Islam was to do what jihadists are doing.. The truth is, it isnât.. The only way is to educate them. The Quran is the most obviously fake religion there is.. Donât be an Islamophobe, Islam is pathetic, it even disproves itself in its own scriptures.. Also, thereâs been 30 000+ terrorist attacks by jihadists since he did one, did he really think that we should do the same? What but a horrible world to live in would that create? Very delusional..
I'm from Norway and this day still haunts the whole country. Most young people here either knew someone who was on UtĂžya or knows someone who does đ
Definitely, it's still quite haunting. D:
ain't it like 50% or at least 20% of people don't wanna blame breivik ?
@@ertjg The majority of Norway despises Breivik.
â@@ertjg he is the most hated man in the entire country
As a dane our thoughts are still with those who suffered and suffers to this day after what happened
You forgot the point that he was moved to another prison recently which even has a view towards Utoya... Sickening
The lil brother hacks part got me sobbing. My prayers to all the innocent lives lost and their loved ones. I hope you guys will find comfort in your lives through allthe beautiful memories youshared with each other. They are all in a better place now.
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Most of us Norwegians believe that if he should against all odds get released, then somebody will kill him. Now we just laugh at his pitiful cries and claims about him being mistreated in prison for not being allowed luxury goods.
He also legally changed his name to Fjotolf Hansen... Fjotolf basically is the Norwegian version of Billy Bob, it's got the same cultural ring and tone to it.
Ty for the insight!
Keep him in! You guys keep laughing and make him the most pathetic laughingstock of the nation.
i like that...thanks
norse pearl
@@ericascharf8711 they dont think like this at all they get released and live normal lives nobody will kill him
@@imalittletoxicjustalittle Joys of the internet, never a day where you donât have to fact check a thousand things and then still be confused lol
The way heâs calling the prison heâs in inhumane when heâs living better than a lot of lower class people essentially for free is insane to me.
You could have stopped at âwhen heâs still livingâ.
That says it all.
The fact that he still breaths...this is disturbing, honestly..most of his victims are not...đą
Him going after teens probably makes his predicament much worse vs someone who is there that doesn't involve mass murder and kids.
He doesn't deserve âhumaneâ and it's something he should have considered before going on a literal hunting spree after kids.
fr he should be in solitary confinement
@@neyusong the crazy thing is I believe she said that WAS solitary confinement. Could be wrong tho
I get the idea behind Norwegian prisons. But in cases like these... They don't deserve such humane treatment đ€Šđ»ââïž
No but they Will get worse mentaly so when they get out they would kill more but in nordic cells its like normal life
As a Muslim myself he seems very ignorant and narcissistic towards us, has no interest in getting to know the religion he only assumes. Itâs so unfair that heâs living in luxury and has no worries after killing so many innocent lives. ۧÙÙÙ Ùۧ ÙŰșÙ۱ ÙÙ ŰąÙ ÙÙ
Yeah I remember he talked about wanting to SA Muslim women and also said women in general donât deserve rights
As another muslim, it never fails to amaze me that the white man committs the worst kind of atrocities, and yet we're somehow the evil boogymen?
Something to note is that he also listened to music during the shooting, like video and movie soundtracks to make it feel less real. This just shows he was aware how wrong it was and he used that music to be able to perform this horrible tragedy to further a disgusting agenda.
He was also drugged out of his mind, which made him more aggressive, but less in touch with reality.
@@missJolie85 I hope youâre not using that as an excuse. .
To make it feel less real? Probably to make ir more fun
â@neimaria3152 If he was 'all drugged up', then that's not an excuse but a fact. Obviously, people who are 'all drugged up' probably aren't in a stable mindset before or during said 'all drugged up' state. No one said anything about excusing his behavior.
@@mariahclaar7915 legit. im not sure how that person thought that comment was excusing his behaviourâŠ
The brother of the boy who lost one arm willingly trying to live with one arm tucked in, so he can teach his older brother and he prepares his parents for when the brother wakes up.
Thats so beautiful
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I teared up hearing this đą
That shit made me real sad. As a brother myself, my heart goes out to them
that part made me want to cry
especially because im the eldest sibling of two
i teared up
Finally someone not from Norway made a video about this. I feel only norwegian channels have done this case.
Norway is such a small country that almost everyone knows someone affected, or someone who knows someone.
I knew somone who worked in the building that was bombed. Apart from some bruises, he was fine.
I had some american relatives visiting us the day before, and they were valking through the area where the bomb went off just 30 minutes prior.
I myself was on a cabin in Oslo. Not far from centrum of Oslo. We heard the soundwave from the bomb crashing into our cabin wall. We thought lighning struck.
My son has a cousin on the island. She was not hit, and survived. Allthough with massive trauma.
Someone else related to my son, lost his grandson on the island.
Well if you mean by area Norway is not that tiny. Which means it has rather low population density
@@redrubytwilightxx8700 I mean small as in population
This story has made me absolutely sick. I cannot physically believe that people like this in this world even exist, I physically cannot believe that crimes like this happen to others, I cannot physically believe that there are people who live with the trauma from this literally forever. I felt even worse hearing how well he lived after the fact. After I watched, I prayed over everyone mentioned, over Norway, and over all of the survivors and families. I donât think iâve ever felt so much pain for people i donât know. my heart goes out to all of the people who are sharing their stories in the comments. And thank you to Steph for putting this video out to spread the stories for others who canât.
Aurora is a norwegian singer who wrote a song to her dear friend who died in the massacre , it is called âLitte Boy In The Grassâ, it not only shows her pain but also the feelings of her nation
great singer and performer
@@viciouslady1340she used to be authentic, but Hollywood is pushing her into this weird spiritual singer image. She doesnât have much freedom anymore as artist unfortunately
i didnt know that song was about this :( thank you
That interesting knowing what I know about these celebrities and how they're all affiliated with Freemasons. I would like to think she means well with that, but I never trust a celebrity's good deeds without 2nd guessing their motives because of their affiliations w them. Most celebrities do this kind of stuff for more clout and more $. I guess I'll never knowđ€
@@truehappiness4U Oh, that's very interesting. For some reason I thought that she was just being more open with her spiritual side, but if that isn't who she actually is, it's weird for them to push her to be like that.
Thereâs a few details that make the entire event sadder.
1) Initially the kids couldnât get through to emergency services due to the attacks in Oslo. The lines were completely overloaded.
2) Due to all emergency vehicles and police in the area being in Oslo, they did not have the staff to go to the island.
3) Police were scared to go onto the island as they thought there were several gunmen.
Most Norwegians are connected to someone who was there in some way.
If I remember correctly I think the cops also only had one chopper, and it was under maintenance that day. I think they had to wait for an armored boat to take them to the island.
Disclaimer; this is just what I believe I heard back then, I haven't looked it up, so I'm not 100% sure
I live in the US đșđž(South Texas near the Gulf).I remember hearing about this horrible tragedy,the bombing....the shooter in the island,I thought it was just a campsite.I knew not the extent that this monster's depraved actions had taken.My condolences and my prayers đ go out to Everyone all of Norway.
The bombing in Oslo and the massacre on the island were done by the same man, from what I just read.
Police are awful
@@elouise5593yup
Stephanie, you have an incredible skill at centering the experiences of the victims and giving us as viewers a much better understanding of what these poor souls actually went through. I remember hearing about the Utoya massacre on the news when it happened and being absolutely horrified (as was the whole world) but hearing the harrowing stories of what they actually experienced brought me to tears at multiple points through your video. They suffered so much because of this one man's twisted, hateful, vile ideology.
if you dare, watch UtĂžya: July 22, the film came out in 2018. It follows the attack from the point of view of one of the teenagers. It really makes you feel like you're there, I was marked by this movie, I still can't forget it. I felt true fear and I can't even imagine what it would have been for the children. I thought of so many ways I'd try to hide, try to survive. It's such a terrible event đą
The fact those kids didn't even know what guns sounded like because of how uncommon shootings are there and now they'll never forget breaks my heart.
Edit: I didn't mention the US or US shootings and I'm American. If you're American and wouldn't know what gun shots sounded like because of where you live, congrats. You would be a person who lives somewhere were shootings aren't common and it would be sad if THAT'S how you found out.
I also didn't say a mass shooting was the ONLY way someone could learn the sound. But if THAT'S how you did THAT WOULD STILL BE SAD. Not everything is about us including the video...
No. That means that they're sheltered.
@@midnull6009Not sheltered, just not exposed to such sounds. Shootings arenât common there at all.
@@midnull6009bad take, man.
@@oniononion7560 Apparently not routinely having a shooting means you're sheltered lol
Right â@@RoseEyed! I mean we can't all be like the US,where there's a new school being shot up every day đ
And before anyone says I'm unfairly judging the US,I'm an American...
I remember our principal coming into our classroom in 2011, fourth grade. They told us that three students from seventh grade had been killed. We had a memorial in the gym, sitting on the gym mats. To this day every year on 22. July there is a moment of silence followed by a reading of every child and classmate that we lost that day on the radio. We will and can never forgetđčâ€ïž
@UTTP-142you donât even have videos lol
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â@UTTP-142 bro you joined CZcams 1 day ago đ
â@UTTP-142 WTF is ur problem? U must be slooooow sloooowwww huh? Like turtles look at you and scream "Hurry Up!" All u did was copy and paste that same lame AF excuse for a sentence. You need help đ. Your account had only been up for 48hrs
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This story brings tears to my eyes. Those poor children and the families who lost them. I canât imagine.
This utterly horrid. Those kids were totally innocent beings, not even able to comprehend they are being slaughtered. đą
Not to mention the fact that when the police arrested him and took him in, he started "flexing" for the pictures, which raised the question if he was at all sane. It's been 13 years, but I remember the media updates vividly and it was HORRIFYING.
â@UTTP-142she talks the entire video.. Soooo YOU have a Stephanie of your own in your channel huh??
I watch these stories because she is a great story teller. There are a ton of channels with the same stories.
@@suzieritz2957itâs a bot. If you ever see an account saying âmy videos are way better than this creatorâsâ or âthis creator is stealing my content!â Or similar things, itâs a bot account. Replying wonât do anything, your reply likely wonât even get read by the person who set up the bot account. The best thing to do is report the comment and/or account.
Maybe the twist is that he was sane. That he was a super sane man. That the name his parents gave him was Super Sane Man (tm). Psychologists knew him as the sanest of men. "Bullet proof sanity man" Proof? This internet comment right here.
â@@suzieritz2957 its a spam, just ignore or report these types of comments
â@UTTP-142shut up
The fact that he thinks heâs a victim after what he did and while heâs living in his duplex and playing video games is just⊠I donât even know what to say.
He sounds like a child that's just been grounded it's ridiculous and in a way he is because look at the way he is living in there it pisses me off
it doesnt matter.
What do you mean by "it doesn't matter"?â@@cheycheyfriend247
Well technically he is a victim...his mom did fuck him up.
All assaultes are victims of some sort of abuse...they just pass it on to others. Trauma begets trauma.
@@midnull6009SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE had even more abusive mothers and never went around getting pleasure from committing mass murder.
I cannot imagine the severity of the trauma the survivors have and still are going through. Personally, i have a ptsd diagnosis from an armed robbery while i was at work, and im still struggling with daily life 4 years later. It breaks my heart knowing other young people had to deal with worse trauma via gun violence. I would never wish the experience of ptsd on anyone else.
As an American, I know our prison system is actually inhumane, but this? This boils my blood. Not only is he living better than I, he is living better than MOST. I am disgusted that he is allowed to have video games, books are more than sufficient for mental stimulation. He should not have a space that wide all to himself and should be moved to a facility more adapted to one person. I can't believe he lives in what most would consider luxury after the amount of brutality he committed.
Prisons ethics are based on the resources of a country, if you have people poor enough in a country to live in worst conditions than someone in a jail, the issue isnt with the jail but with the money politicians are stealing from poor people, while helping millionaires with their taxes.
If everyone in US was rich, what would be the issue with better conditions at prisons? Im not saying they should be free, Im not saying they deserve luxuries. Hell no, they should be treated like slaves, and they should put to work for the country they are on.
As a Norwegian, I remember this day so well, horrible. Three of my classmates were there when it happened. Luckily all of them survived, but not unscarred. One of them left the world years later because of the trauma.. And seeing how few we are in this country, everyone either knew someone directly impacted, or just one link away from someone who did. We will never forget.
The fact that this man gets nicer living conditions than most people after what he did and that he thinks he deserves even better puts me at a loss for words. He doesnât deserve even a mattress to sleep on.
well norway has one of the lowest crime rates and reoffender rates on earth and highest quality of life.... so.... maybe their lack of lust for revenge is something good?
The prisons in norway are typically pretty nice apparently
the living conditions in general in norway are nice. so its really none of our business.
Yes, the thought makes me a bit uncomfortable, but I would recommend you do some research on how beneficial Norwayâs prisons are for its country. Itâs hard to implement right away in the United States, with the political polarization and history, but our nation (or if you donât live here, the country with the most prison issues) would be far better off by transitioning to Norwayâs prison system.
â@@cheycheyfriend247He doesn't deserve it anyways
You need to do a deep dive on shootings, gang war, drug and initiation crime, related to gangs, and bombings in Sweden. Youâre the best at telling the story the right way, thank you for covering this. The whole Europe was shock that day. Thanks for all the work you do!
we have many cases in sweden that could be a good cover.. the disco fire attack around 95 in gothenburg and the estonia sinking comes to mind.
@@missdokidokisan lisa holm too
@@webbslie and Wilma Andersson
The police literally just arrested a gang leader who worked in a neighboring building last night here in Sweden lol. They were selling cocaine while working at a home for mentally ill with drug issues...
@@Quzga damnnnn u get all the tea
I remember this day so well, I was 9 years old, me and my parents were driving to Denmark for vacation. Right when we crossed the border to Sweden they suddenly parked on the side of the road and the mood was panicked as they were trying to reach my sister on the phone.
She was working a few blocks away from the regjeringskvartalet where the explosion was. I didnât understand then, but now itâs so scary. In the hotel, it was everything that was on the tv.
Years later there was a memorial in the building there was the explosion and I went there with my school. There was a room with school book pictures of all the victims. The walls were completely covered because there was so many.
Wow we were weirdly close! I was 15 with my grandparents biking around the coast where the bridge to Copenhagen is (they live in limhamn) and we came home to make sandwiches when the news came on. I yelled and everyone came in, spent the whole evening watching and talking.
I'll def never forget that moment.
Iâm thankful that youâre covering cases from all over the world. Iâve always wanted big crime youtubers to cover some of the bigger cases in Norway, but never expected it to actually happen. Iâm from Norway, and this day is like our 9/11. Iâm pretty sure every Norwegian old enough to remember it, knows where they were and what they were doing when they heard these shocking news.
That's exactly what it is, I was in school when it happened and everyone talked about it for days and even months after, I still hear it come up in conversations today. This really was our 9/11 and I don't think any of us will forget that horrible attack, and the fact he called them "sheep" too, like they weren't even human to him
The fact that this happened in Norway, of all countries, made it that more shocking and horrific. đšđŠ
Iâm from Sweden and it was huge news even here. Everyone of all ages knew and all we heard from grandparents was âthat would never happen in Swedenâ and look at Sweden now. Itâs literally a gang war here with innocent people getting shot almost everyday
It was a huge thunderstorm with heavy rains on the island where i live and i ran inside to the TV remembering thinking the electricity is gonna go but no, streaming on the tv was live news from Utoya, it is imprintined in memory forever. It was awful. Love from Sweden!
Jag Àr svensk och jag minns det sÄ tydligt!
Jobbade nÀtter pÄ den tiden sÄ jag var bara hemma den dagen.
Tror det första jag hörde var en bekant, som Àr journalist, som skrev pÄ Facebook att det var en pÄgÄende skottlossning pÄ ett norskt kollo.
Det hÀr var i ett vÀldigt tidigt skede!
Satt framför TV, dator och mobilen hela dagen och uppdaterade allt för att fÄ höra det senaste!
Det var sÄ surrealistiskt, för det började redan som en fruktansvÀrd hÀndelse, men ju mer man fick veta ju vÀrre blev det! Och sÄ kÀndes det som att det fortsatte i sÀkert ett Är!
The unbelievable thing is, that civilians at the coast where the island was, decided to take their boats to the island and rescue children. It's because of them a lot of children were saved. I won't go too much into this as I don't find myself qualified to talk about this, but there was a lot of debate afterwards on how the police responded to the attack on the island. They were wayyyyyy too late to respond when arriving at the coast that looked directly at the island. And even when they got there, it took them a while to get to the island because they were scared of what would happen. Like I understand since there was another attack in Oslo, but here there were soldiers were risking their lives taking their boats to the island to save children while police used their time.
Sounds like Sewol :(
Makes you lose hope in everyone...
A similar thing happened in the story about the Korean boat incident Rotten Mango covered. Authorities were hesitant to go in due to the danger, but simple fishermen and hobby divers risked their lives to pull the students out of the water. While it is disgusting that civilians had to intervene because of the lack of care from the police, it is at the same time really wholesome to know that in both these incidents all the locals united to save as many children as they could. In this case the civilians must have been terrified, they had no weapons to defend themselves, chances were high that the monster was gonna shoot people on the boat to prevent the kids from being saved.
i was surprised at how it took them more than an hour to get to the island . I guess they where overwhelmed considering how unusual crime is in general in the area?
I don't think I've ever became so viscerally uncomfortable looking at photos of a murderer before. He oozes awful person even without knowing the crimes he committed.
Take a sip every time hubby says "Whaaat?" as Steph drops plot twist after plot twist and many different turns. Despite the grim background, she's a great storyteller
Whenever thereâs a âsummer campâ that held on an island i never have a good feeling⊠isolation from their parents/family and the rest of society while trapped with strangers is a *screaming red flag* . Too much bad sh*t happens when kids and islands are said in the same sentence.
Right. I used to like the idea of an island vacation . Nowadays it's an immediate red flag. LOL
It's really not bad. The camp has been running for decades, and even our last two former prime ministers used to hang out there in their youth. It's political youth camp for the labour party. Norway/Scandinavia in general has very low crime rate, and there is a high level of trust in society. That doesn't mean things never happens, this clearly shows it can, but people live more freely here and not in fear.
There is activity at UtĂžya again, to demonstrate that these evil people and events will not take away our power and freedom.
I also wonder if they would be able to get someone with a injury or medical emergency to the hospital on time from there
Helicopter i would assume â@pandasm2077
it's very common in norway
The 22nd of July for Norwegians, hold the same level of collective trauma, as 9/11 does for Americans. If you ask anyone what they did on the 22nd of July, when they heard about the bomb and the shooting, they will know.
I was in the barn preparing dinner for my horses when I heard the first messages of the shooting on the radio.
That day changed a lot for us. We learned that our police was seriously unprepared for terror attacks. But rather than reacting with anger, people flooded the streets with roses, and sang. A song that the terrorist hated, because it's about having equal value despite color or background.
maybe not 9/11. there were almost 3000 people dead in 9/11. this is more like the oklahoma bombing and columbine shooting merged together. there was 198 people who died in the oklahoma bombing and i believe 12 people shot in the columbine attack. either way it is still horrible. my heart hurts for those kids.
@@mrsvain9995 I didn't compare the amount of dead. I compared the collective trauma. Everyone knows what they did on 9/11, hell, even I remember that and I was 6. The same with Norwegians and the 22nd of July.
â@mrsvain9995 this stuff doesn't happen in Norway like it does all the time in the states so that's why they said that. It's the biggest attack in Norway that everyone remembers just like everyone here does 9/11
â @@mrsvain9995keep in mind Norway is also much smaller of a country than the US. America is massive
That is so beautiful †a response that showed the superiority of Norwayâs believes over this dudes because he wasnât able to contaminate the nation with his hatred in the end.
I waited so long for you to cover this case, I'm so glad you did it. I remember my class in high school watched the movie "UtĂžya 22. juli" in the cinema for a school trip, it's a norwegian made movie made to look like it's all in one take, no music, no theatrics, just following this girl trying to escape the attack, coping, trying to help others, and watching everyone die around her. In the end she gets on a boat and is shot too. I remember when the movie ended, it was so silent. No one in the cinema said a word, you could hear a pin drop from 100 meters away. It was an extremely eery atmosphere because we all felt the same thing. I've never felt silence like that. When we got out, a girl in my class had a panic attack and she was comforted and assisted by her friends. The thing about Norway is that we are so few people here, our country is very close knit. Everyone knew someone or knows someone who knew a victim. Every year on the 22. july the town clock strikes 77 times, which is the number of the total lives lost that day. The government building is closed to traffic and is still not rebuilt, it just has this huge cloth over it displaying how it used to look. In front of it is a memorial slate which displays all the victims' names and ages. It's so heartbreaking. Norwegian singers and rappers made so many works about it, also criticizing how many people though it was a muslim terrorist attack inititally when it's in fact extremist people like him we should worry about. This event changed us as a society forever. It's a tragedy we all carry with us to this day.
I am Norwegian and this case has left deep scars in our nation. I will never forget that day, and the 22nd of July is still a dark day every year. Thank you for covering this case.
as a swede, this day is a day that the whole scandinavia knows about and remembers years later, those poor kids will never be forgotten
As an American, it makes me sad my country hasnât done more to stop the ongoing violence against kids here): I live in Texas, have a 10 year old and dread sending her to school. Iâm amazed at how other countries have handled tragedies like this(even if itâs not all been perfect), and what theyâve done to prevent them after the fact! Iâve lost faith in my government, itâs a damn mess.
@@muggleintheupsidedown Yeah I completely understand that, I would've been terrified to go to school over there to be honest. I know that crazy people live all over the world and attacks can happen anywhere but from an outside perspective it almost looks like America is pouring fuel on the fire by keeping weapons (which in MANY other countries would be completely illegal) legal and not that difficult to acess :(
@@muggleintheupsidedown If you donât trust the government, you have to protect your 2A~~
@@ArtsyL0ser I can't understand if someone don't trust the government and want the government to control weapons.
@@TennSingtsuan9697 What do you mean? It's the fact that the Amercian goverment doesn't do anything about a very clear problem in the whole country that probably makes people lose faith in them. I think that a lot of people would start trusting them a lot more if they actually did something to ensure the safety of their people, like making deadly weapons illegal. Of course shit would still happen, gun violence is a big problem here in Sweden too even if guns are illegal but I still think it would help. It would show that the goverment at least is trying to do something about it.
Iâm definitely someone who thinks prison should be about reform over punishment, but Norwegians should have a prison-like option for child killers. đ€Šđ»ââïž He treated these teenagers like they werenât even human. It makes me sick.
Righ?! Like having playstation or computer is not a human need to survive. Especially after he said he was practicing shooting there, they should take it away. It makes me so angry.
â@@kestrel9975Honestly im with the whole reform idea but i think prison should be a room without windows and three meals a day and water. You receive Therapy daily and you have absolutely no access to the outside world no computer no outside interaction ( no vists) only therapists and prison guards. Your let outside twice a day for exercise and the courtyard has walls are so high you cant see over them at all. Idk this would be my ideal prison for people, Reformitory but Confining.
I think it should be both. There should be a certain level between reform and punishment. In this case he must be punished
True, they're not human.
@@Princess-Ammonite this is the possibly worst idea I have ever heard in my life. you are ASKING for people to hate the system and re-offense as soon as they get out. Norway has the lowest re-offense rate anywhere in the world and their crime rates overall are really really low. This is absolutely the right way to run a prison system.
This story screams âwe need to talk about Kevinâ from the very beginning - especially because even the mom knew that her son was evil from the get.
Not defending this monster, but that wasn't the point of what was shared. The mom wasn't mentally stable and neither was he. Those two don't make the best combination for healthy upbringing. Maybe things would have turned out if he'd been put into foster care, or maybe not. But saying someone is a certain way from the get go, at birth, is a crazy claim.
@@iamsotiredoflivingsomeone can absolutely be wrong right at birth. Itâs their brain chemistry what makes them like this and it can definitely be off right at birth. This is a clear case of he was born like this and his environment made it worse. No one believed the mother when she kept saying that he wasnât right. Who would know better than the mother regardless of how negligent she is. 1 may say she was negligent like that especially because of how she knew he was.
She was more than negligent. She was mentally ill. And obviously, it's something that could be passed down. Original comment said the son was evil from the get go. That's false. Plenty of individuals born with clinical psychopathy are rehabilitated and integrate into society with the right support. It was the combination that sealed his fate, and things might have turned out differently if he'd gotten the help he needed when the child protective services visited his home. Not saying his mom wasn't right about something not being right with him, I'm saying he's not evil from the get go and the mom certainly didn't know that, even if she knew something was off with him. Stephanie even said that the mom would take out her frustrations with men out on him, using her experiences to judge him when he was just a young boy still. That's not a mentally sound person.
@@iamsotiredofliving girl I was talking about a movie with Tilda Swinton, in the movie the mom claims the kid was evil even when it was her in belly, I was drawing a similarity to the movie mom and the real life mom. They both claimed the child was evil from the get.
I didnât think I needed to clarify, that being said: I was raised in hell of my own and the only life I wanted to end was mine own.
Maybe he was evil from the beginning, whatever the case he is evil now so whatâs the deal?
@@iamsotiredofliving ppl that are born beyond help do exist. More matter how much they try to integrate and take all the meds they r still not right and most go on to be serial killers or a murderer at the very least
Omg I remember asking if you could do this case months ago. I'm so glad you actually did it!
As a norwegian I remember that day so well. I was in middle school and for some reason I couldn't sleep due to anxiety, so I turned on my old TV in my bedroom as I usually did to comfort myself. Then I saw this on the news. I stayed up for hours...
I am horrified, appalled and disgusted by the fact heâs living better than most people out there. Heâs living in a freaking apartment while good homeless people suffer yet heâs complaining. Iâm mad by all the privileges heâs given after the heinous crime he committed.
Well, we all know itâs inhumane to treat total monsters inhumanely. đ
Yeah we norwegians are mad and disgusted too. While our prisons are overly nice for offenders, they are successful in rehabilitating convicts. That being said, i'm under the opinion that only a certain kind of convict should get such a nice treatment in prison, and that's those who show true regret. People who are actually good, but went down the wrong path. A path that to a certain extent can be forgiven. People who can be rehabilitated. Those are the individuals who deserve this kind of norwegian prison treatment. Someone like Anders should not receive such treatment. He don't deserve it. He never will, and it's appalling that he get's to live better than a lot of people.
This monster ruined so many lives and he is complaining about not having the best gaming equipment while living in better conditions than low income families and the student population of norway. It's absolutely insane.
I haven't finished the video but knowing this is raising my anger.
@@K000Hsome of it is just playing with statistics, culturally north Europe has been already always low in crime. I find it funny how people always justify letting criminals out with lesser costs to government, but forgetting the costs of victims, which are expensive, or as usual they just ignore victims and make them pay their own. Money over justice really. But even then, sure for low crime people thatâs fine, but murder or violent assaults etc. shouldnât have anywhere near nice conditions as prison is supposed to be a punishment, how else is it supposed to not incentivize people to commit crimes. Heck, even many foreigners are realizing that there are so many loopholes in north European systems that were held by a thin veil culturally homogenous population. Not to mention, many criminals not even getting prison time and just allowed to get out, to remake statistics look better. Needless to say Iâm sensitive about this subject because someone did awful things to me and they got away with it, just to continue to create more victims and idiots are justifying that person costing less in prison, when they still canât hold a job and government pays for everything and they can continue ruin countless more lives.
â@@sparrowwilson4514 I hope you're being sarcastic there.
You forgot to mention a 17 year old boy, Anzor Djoukaev, was held in captivity for 17 hours after the attack, even though Anders had already confessed. According to wikipedia he was forced to do a strip search, and wasn't allow to contact his parents, who likely assumed he was dead. The two main reasons given were that he had a different haircut than his ID photo, and that he didn't react as intensely as the other survivors to the carnage.
That is terrible because surely he was traumatized.
@@Megabot_6000 Or, an INTJ. INTJ's don't (typically) respond with emotion in critical situations since it is more important to keep one's mental faculties alert and processing at a rapid speed.
If I hear Stephanie Soo, talk about the Beirut port explosion, I would cry nonstop, the ptsd we have after that day can never be put into words. We reached the point where if we hear a thunderclap, we think its another explosion.
I love how your videos feel like I'm chatting with a friend and it's like you're in the room with me .
Just love this unique style of how you tell a story .
Could listen to you talk for hours.
The brother who was telling the kids jokes and then when both the brothers survived it broke me. God i hope they just remain happy, healthy and together for the rest of their lives đ€
The boy tucking one arm in his shirt to help his brother is SOOOOO heartbreaking
It's heartbreaking yet beautiful.
Right. I almost cried. Had to pause and collect my tears
I fully cried at that, I was already on the verge but that broke me
i started cleaning my dusty old ass room after that line played....smh
my oldest siblings lost a few of their friends at UtĂžya, They were some of the kindest, energetic people ive ever met. We'll never forget the futures lost to this madman.
sending out support to anyone who lost someone that day
my heart hurts so much listening to the story of the locals using their own personal boats and desperately trying to get close and be quiet to rescue those kids. theyâre true heroes, the pinnacle of humanity.
The part that always makes me cry is hearing about the adults saving the kids begging them to close their eyes and not look around. Itâs such a sweet act of kindnessâŠlike the adults saving them are still trying to protect their young minds from trauma even tho theyâve just been through the most traumatic events of their lives.
AURORA wrote a song in dedication to a friend who was a victim to this attack. It is called "little boy in the grass" and it is one of the most heartbreaking songs. I recommend people go listen to it đ
I didn't know she made a song for this tragedy but it's nice that she made a song dedicated to them
I remember thinking that Röyksopp and Susanne SundfÞr's "Running to the Sea" was inspired by UtÞya when I first found it, I don't think it was ever officially confirmed but to this day the song gives me chills with how haunting and real it feels. I'll definitely check AURORA's track out, the topic and tragedy hit hard in a way that vocalists like her and Susanne can convey so well
You never did vids, especially when you joined May 2024. Nice try troll.
listening to this now! thank you
Wait... I love this song and have listened to it so many times but never read the lyrics closely enough... this is heartbreaking...
My grandfather was a Free Mason. I don't know much about his involvement, he passed away when I was 12. He had a ring that he wore with the Free Mason symbol on it and was cremated with some kind of white apron that had to do with the Masons. Born in Baltimore in 1920-(ish?), not sure when he joined, I believe his father was also one.
Okay, I have a few comments:
1- Itâs weird how most of us never heard of this tragedy. If his name was Hassan or Mohammed instead of Anders, he wouldâve been called a terr*rist and the media would talk about it forever.
Just to confirm that, I searched for July 22 2011. Literally *all news channels called him a killer, a murderer, and the only one that called him a terror1st was ABC NEWS* . It was barely covered. This video is about to have more views than the most viewed video about this tragedy. Nobody called him horrific, barbaric, or anything.
To compare: Around 11 people were killed during the attacks that happened at Ariana Grandeâs concert Manchester , it was called a terror attack by the BBC and The Telegraph, but they didnât call this one a terror attack.
2-The man literally bombed a government building and killed over 100, most of them are children. He is obviously proud of himself. He is worse than a terror ist. He keeps on doing the Nazi salute each time he enters the court. It is crazy how he only gets 21 years. Releasing him in 2032 would be insane. He literally said in court that he regrets not killing more people.
3-He doesnât want Muslims because he believes they will bomb the country, so he goes to bomb it himself. Crazy.
4-This is exactly why i boycotted Activision even though i was obsessed with call of duty and used to play it everyday. After MWII, I noticed that the Muslims and Russians are always the bad guys. So, theyâre making games about killing Muslims for fun. Disgusting company. Their new game has a map named "Afghan" which is beyond racist.
TBF there is a pretty good reason Russia is always the bad guy...
He's not getting released. His sentence was 21 years with "forvaring." 21 years is the maximum prison sentence you can give in Norway, but forvaring means that when the sentence is over, there will be an evaluation if he is fit to be released to society. Because of his history, continued behaviour and continuous evaluations, he wont be able to lie either to get released.
Anders Bering Breivik will never be released, and even if he were, he'd probably be killed the second he steps on the streets. That is how hated he is.
I get your points. But just know that to us norwegians he will always be known as a terrorist and a monster. No one here talks about him âjust as a killerâ. This was a terrorist attack and should always be known as one.
He is very evil.
Islam is a dangerous religion though, and that shouldnât be taken lightly. It has passages in its sacred texts about killing non believers, and their prophet raped a 9 year old.
I am in no way excusing the actions of this man. I myself am a Jewish immigrant, and my fiancé is Cambodian.
He was evil, yes. But Islam is evil too, and making comparisons like âbUt iF hIS nAmE wAS hAssAnâ is disgraceful to the millions killed by Islamic regimes.
@@Hildus-ps3no I was just stating how he'd never get released as a lot of people have that assumption. Eg er ogsÄ norsk, eg kjenner godt til heile situasjonen.
I love that one of the woman's motivation to stay alive was to call some guy a douche bag. You go girl. I hope that guy felt like a REAL BIG douche and realized one of her motives to survive a mass murder was just to say that too him.
this was hard all together to listen to but the brother who prepped for his brother to wake up without an arm actually moved me to tears. the love in that was just too much
Same my heart aces for those babies
I've watched a lot of Stephanie's videos and this was the thing that got me đ„č
I was living in Sweden at that time, but was visiting family and friends in China, so I didn't really understood much about it when some friend told me there had been a crazy person shooting kids in Norway. It wasn't until I came back to Sweden I understood what had actually happened. It was shocking, it's like, I had this one thought that "These kinds of things don't happen in Scandinavia" ... and still it happened. I was still young, and I guess naĂŻve, but that was the moment I realized anything can happen anywhere...
It took me 9 days to prepare myself to watch this, I knew I would cry, it's just heartbreaking.
I'm so glad to finally see someone outside of Scandinavia cover this. I myself am Swedish but I remember this so clearly and how gut wrenching it was to follow the news and hear from the survivors. This is a case I think of often and I weep for everyone affected.
The chick willing herself to stay alive so she could see the last Harry Potter movie is an absolute gangster. I need to shake that girls hand. đ Sorry I know this is absolutely horrific and I donât mean to be insensitive, but that one detail was amazing to me. What a gal. â€
And to tell her classmate that he was a douchebag lol
@@CheeseFrLife a woman to my own heart đđđđ
It was staying alive to tell the guy to stop being a jerk that did it for me
That part was so sad, she's a real one for thatđ„ș
I canât imagine how traumatic watching the last movie was for her after what she experienced :(
I usually never comment on stephanies videoes, but this one did affect my friends and family. On the 22 of july 2011, two tragedies occured. One in oslo and one in utĂžya, both of which left my family in a state of grief. The first attack happened in oslo, a van full of fertilizee and other chemicals (made into a made shift bomb) blew up and killed 8 people, while injuring over 200 others. Me, my mother, sister and uncle were witness to what had happened, but thankfully we made it out safely withouth sustaining any injuries. The second attack however, ended up killing 1 of my aunts children. I was too young to understand what had unfolded, but i knew something wasnt right when my whole family gathered in the living room looking deeply upset. Every year on this day, i still feel an intense disbelief that this happened in a country we thought was safe, loving, and a place to call home. I hope all the victims families feel better knowing their children and loved ones are in a better place, and i hope this tragedy never ever happens again.
I am so sorry for you and you familys loss, losing a child, a cousin, like that, the pain. â€ïž It also confuses you, cuz living in norway, in scandinavia, is supposed to be safe right? But all that chattering at such a young age. I am so sorry
thank you for sharing your story. It's so sad that such evil exists in this world.
I'm so incredibly sorry for your loss. There are no words that can ever comfort even so many years later. I wish for you and your family to never feel your safety jeopardized in your home. I'm so sorry.
gracias por compartir tu historia, me alegro que no hayan sufrido lesiones y es una pena lo que le pasĂł a tu prim@
un abrazo
â@UTTP-142 you don't even have any videos. Go troll elsewhere
So us nordic people are generally opposed to the death sentence but when all this went down it changed a lot of people's minds. The anger and pure vitriol over this brutal act was huge, especially since that kind of thing is very rare here. Dude is probably more hated than Hitler. If he ever gets out rest assured that he will never be safe.
I guess now you can understand why people from war torn countries support it. Thereâs too many truly evil people in this world.
I love ur story telling skills, I get really bored really fast and get distracted a lot (adhd), but the way you tell stories is so entertaining and engaging? Like I really enjoy how you go back and forth from the timeline of events. Keep up the good work! đ
Iâm a Norwegian. I talked to my dad, and he said that his aunt was one of the responders to the bomb in Oslo. This honestly disgusts me.
whats worse is how the country is housing him in such comfortable conditions , must be so awful for relatives of victims and survivors
you don't look very Norwegian,typical colonizer assuming that they are natives
@@ginomanb6235what the hell
@@ginomanb6235 the profile picture is not me, itâs a dancer. Iâm not native to Norway, but my grandmother is. Iâm am very involved in my heritage and as soon as I saw my favorite creator post about the country one of my closets relatives is from, I had to talk about my familyâs involvement in the case. There is no need for you to be hating on me for spreading awareness.
@@kenziecupcake You don't have to justify youself to anyone, enjoy your heritage ^_^
The movie âUtĂžya July 22â is about this case. Most of the film consists of a single take, shot in real time, and follows the character Kaja from the third-person perspective before and throughout the 72-minute attack. Really recommend if anyoneâs interested.
ah I watched this movie when I was learning Norwegian and it's so hard to watch, but really well done. was wondering if anyone was gonna comment about it tbh
that movie fundamentally changed me, it's so tough to watch
I loved that movie when i was in middle school, gonna rewatch after this case!
I would also give a warning - my ex-boyfriend put it on without telling me it was about the shooting. When I realized, I actually got a panic attack and never continued and I donât dare to ever do so⊠itâs very realistic.
There's actually one more movie about this, but I think it might only be available in Scandinavia if I'm not mistaken. It's mostly following the story of Viljar, the guy who survived being shot in the eye
My grandad was a Freemason. He went to regular lodge meetings where a bunch of old expat war heroes drank and told tall tails. My grandad once lamented to me that I wasnât allowed to join, being female. He didnât think my father was a choice but we were close and server times mentioned how he wished I could join him.
Where are you from? My uncle is a Freemason & Iâve been to some of their parties - they hold special ladies nightsâŠ
Yeah my dad is a freemason. They do SpoOoOkY things like raise money for the local parking lot construction and listen to elderly men drone on about their lives for hours on end
@@backwardsbandit8094 itâs all very secret and sinister đ đ
@@LornaLouu Iâm from Australia. His group seemed to be a lot of his old war buddies.
As a norwegian i am really happy that you talked about this case . You and your team are fantastic researchers. And i learned new stuff about this case.
how people can be so evil to literal CHILDREN still scares me
Teens aren't "literal" children. According to science a child is under age 12.
This story is also fake af. Nothing about it online in history.
@@Vale10952 Still, they are minors, under the age of 18, and their brains will not be fully devoted until 25. I am 14, and though bi may not be quite a child, I still think id be considered as one. and yes, this was in the news, its just an older case.
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Probably because he was treated like shit from birth so he thought why they should be treated any less
Im just watching this, pregnant as fuck. Crying my eyes out.
Just scared of my child growing up.
Im a dane and remember this day. Everything was silent that day. Horrible
I saw this and immediately clicked. I never recognize stories, but this one remains memorable in Norway years later. :(
Immediately recognized the island and individual on thumbnail. He is a truly haunting individual
@UTTP-142 stop lying she doesnât even know you and you donât post so stop
I specifically watch these while doing the dishes because i can not STAND dishes and, for some odd reason, knowing the dates and all of that it makes me feel like im connected to the victims, almost like... like i know these people personally and after i hear all of the horrendous stuff that happened to most of these people i get quiet like so so quiet almost like its a moment of silence for the victims. I dont move a muscle and i try my hardest not to make noise while moving the dishes. This is a phenomenon that ive just come to realize and it really shows how good Rotten Mangoâs is at story telling, really connecting you to the victims. All this to say i really liked this video, keep up the great work!!
Same. I do chores that don't demand a lot of thought while listening to podcasts or music. This story made me scrub my windows furiously. May that blight on the face of the earth rot.
The creepiest thing about this is most teenage boys (at least in my country) have similar mindset as him and think that the said mindset is very cool and manly. The fact that those teenagers who made hating liberals/gays/minorities/women their whole personality will one day grow up into adults scares the shh out of me. Even now those teenagers don't see those groups of people as human beings so what will happen when they become an adult who can easily make their fantasies come true.
He claims he loves his country but mercilessly took the innocent lives of the future of 'his' nation.
I think because the ideology they advocated for was against (in his view), the future prosperity of Norway. Breivik chose this camp because the children had parents that worked in government.
In court he said âI wanted to hit them where it would hurt the most.â
He believed that particular political party was destroying his country. It has gotten 100x worse all over Europe in the past decade âŠ..
@@bastian9693damn fr
there were nazi jews, blacks that hate blacks, whites that hate whites (this you see all over Europe and US right now), this is a common phenomena. Just because you have the same skin color or grew up in the same country does not mean you are the same, when Berlin was destroyed by the Russians, some germans were cheering in celebration seeing their own people being annihilated. You can read many of these events in history.
I am Norwegian. born, and raised. I was three years old at the time and I still remember where I was and what I was doing. My childhood neighbor worked in that government building at the time, luckily he was off work that day. It is said that one in three Norwegians have connections to someone directly affected. That could be either a victim or a family of a victim. I didnât fully grasp the scope of this happening in my country until last year, I had a full mental breakdown for about two days where all I could do was cry and read about utĂžya. This was the hardest episode youâve ever done for me to get to. I listened to the audio version in about 10 sittings as opposed to my usual binge. I think itâs so crazy how accustomed the US specifically has become to mass shootings. We have had one since this one. It was about two years ago. I was on that street at a party just hours before it happened. Iâm gonna quit dumping now I just had a lot to get of my chest. Anyways, have a good day and stay safe
Iâm Finnish and American and it really annoys me how people think that US is used to mass shootings. USA is much larger than Europe, so comparing just Norway to USA would be insanity. Also, American and European news like to sensationalize in their news statistics that they have no idea about. Mass shootings definitions differ in USA and in many countries in Europe, which can make one country seem to have more shootings than others, itâs very difficult to accurately compare the shootings of other countries to USA. Europeans just tend to have this weâre better than thou mentality often, so they believe whatever their news tells them, tho many Americans do too. Americans arenât used to mass shootings, theyâre not common, news just talk about it, and copy cats love it. China uses opposite method of media blackout when they have similar attacks, to stop copycats. New Zealand shooter chose guns over bombs or a truck, because he knew it would get more media attention than bombs or a car would, in fact he had the plan the entire time for New Zealand to ban guns because of him, and they did exactly what he wanted. Insane.
â@@ihanakaunotar2741size isnt relevant when the statistics are per capita, there difinitely is a noticable difference between US and the rest of the world
Obviously it isnt a daily occurrence but the vastly increased frequency is still there
â@ihanakaunotar2741 i think in 2023 there were 38 mass shootings in the USA, with 333 million people, compared to 10 mass shootings (of which some were terror attacks like this one) and a population of 764 million.
Praying for you. It's gonna be okay. đđ»
Oh Hun. Dump if you need to. Sometimes we don't even realize how much we're holding on to until we begin to let it out. I pray you peace in your journey!
i'm danish, and we had to analyze a movie made about this incident called "UtĂžya" of course. I'm pretty sure it was filmed on the actual island itself, and it was super scary to watch. its of course in norwegian as well, but i'm sure it's possible to find it with english subtitles. it was super insightful as well, because the camera follows around like they're on the run as well with the main character, in other words, it feels like you're there yourself
Iâm from Sweden and heard this story in many different ways.
But you did it so good. Got all information in the right way đȘđŒđ€
Grandchild of an ex-freemason here! My grandfather was asked to leave the group after he lost some of his paperwork or "black book" full of secrets. Recently dug out some old paperwork from his collection, notices of where our family sat in the hierarchy, signed forms of identification. The paper and writing is beautiful but also kinda creepy. Yes I grew up with some very odd political beliefs that i have had to unlearn. Crazy!
@FeatheredScribe That's wild! It's definitely not spoken about in our family but the records I found date back to early 1900s so I'd say we were involved for a while.
Scouts for grown ass men. Nothing to see there.
Weird grown moid clubs
Reminds me how my father would walk 3 hours on weekends instead of helping my mom.
There's a free/accepted mason lodge next to where i live and another where i used to go to school. I think my grandma's husband was one if i remember correctly. Always wondered about them but had hesitant feelings about it.
@@FriendsForFriends666
This. This is the actual truth. I know a few Masons from my home town and none of them are powerful or influential lmao Theyâre just old, poor rednecks who use it for human interaction and to feel like theyâre part of a club. Itâs all secretive for the same reason young kids start clubs and have a secret password to get in. Itâs make believe
I hereby announce with reverence that Stephanie, a woman of diligent and pensive nature, hath posted a CZcams video, both settling and educational in its essence. May we receive this offering with due solemnity, embracing the wisdom it imparts with open hearts and scholarly intent.â€
Lol amen! God bless you in the name of Jesus Christ, who is the name above all names & the only way to Heavenâ€
@@arsondarkseaNah, we're exalting Stephanie's name up in here.
Dam Iâm early
Word.
Amen. Iâve been in a cult before, but this one I choose. All hail Mango.
Damn the prison system in Norway is wild. Makes you wonder if prison was worse there, if he wouldâve done this⊠he can just game 24/7 nowâŠ
well our prison system works seeing as we actually have less criminals and less people going back to prison even with how nice prisons are here, that should maybe tel you something about how society works here. imagine doing a crime and going to a prison like this but having your freedom taken away felt so bad that even if it was nice you didn't wanna go back again, and also because you got help to straighten your life out you now were a better person than before prison. how is that anything bad??
He killed almost 100 people and now he gets treated like a fcking king
For such a horrific event, you tell the story in such an engaging way that really made me drawn in and gripping on for more. I'm beyond sad by the events, but am in love with your style of storytelling. New subscriber earned.
I believe she takes her story telling style from K Dramas - where you tell the story from multiple peoples views. Itâs very engaging & she does such a good job at making you feel everything
âŠâŠ the father who had to hear his child die broke me. There is no worse hell on earth than to lose your child, but like that? And to have to hear it and feel so helpless towards the very person you live for to keep safe..? Unreal. Just absolutely unreal.
Evil like this is almost too hard to even believe exists. Yet they do things like this and we are reminded just how evil people can be.
No amount of words can express my heartache for the victims and their families. Im just heartbroken for them.
Also the fact that this wasnât plastered all over every news station on this earth is disturbing. I never even heard of this case. We all should have a day of remembrance for these CHILDREN.
Our children are being raised in a terrifying world. Itâs truly had gotten so so bad
i'm norwegian, and as to most of us this story really hits close to home. a close family friend was at utĂžya when the shooting happened, he was shot twice and survived only by pretending to be dead... also what's crazy is that the prison where the shooter is being held is literally in my home town
@UTTP-142 Go away, troll...
â@UTTP-142 Shut up! Stop telling lies!
It's not a prison, Norway don't have prisons.
That's actually such crazy timing with this video. I started working on my criminology end assignment about 3 weeks ago and as a swede I thought that this case would be very interesting to write about. And now my favorite CZcamsr talks about it as well
I remember when this happened, I was 8 years old, I remember my teacher mentioning that something was happening in Norway. When my dad was watching the news, they mentioned it again which made me mention that the teacher had mentioned it, not in detail, but that something bad was happening. Few later I found out what exactly happened and I was shocked, I'm still shocked considering that I am from Finland and share our border in the north, in the Lapland. Thank you for covering this case.
I had friend who was going to go to that camp but then her grampa passed so she stayed an dint go to that camp, thank god she didn't go. When she heard what happened she fainted because sh would have most likely been killed. I am still thank full that she is still hereâ€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïžI can't even imagine being one of the kids there. I hope they heal and see able to trust police and the authorities. I cannot imagine the mind numbing fear that would grip you.
Her grandfather's death saved her life... He protected her even in the end
I've been waiting so long for someone with the right platform and resources to cover this case. I'm a forensic psychologist, and this case still haunts me in all my years. Every shooting I hear about or have to read about that has a twisted element to the perpetrator's plan, I come back to this awful case. Its always real time, no matter how you hear it its like you're there in real-time. My mind cannot even begin to comprehend how his victims and families have healed.
Hi there
If you donât mindâŠ. Is it my impression or this domestic terrorists have a profile?
They seem to be: white, male, lacking social intelligence (people find them unpleasant/eerie to be around), extremely low self esteem, passionate about guns, blaming all the problems of his life/country on a specific group, hold contempt towards women and feminism, need radical ideas to feel relevant , leading to perceive mass killing as a grandiose moment of male power. Almost as if they feel inadequate as a man according to their own ideal of what a man should be and to compensate the feeling of inferiority caused by it, they resort to guns and killing because they feel that is the epitome of masculinity. Like âIâm not a loser if people fear meâ?
Is there a psychological explanation for this pattern or is this pattern an incorrect perception on my part?
I'll never forget the day it happened, me and my whole family spent the rest of that sunny summers evening watching the TV in southwestern sweden. We lived close to Oslo and knew many
Imagine that is happening in Caza now every dayđą
Caller - "HELP THERE IS MAN SHOOTING AT US"
911 Operator - "HAAA GOOD ONE BRO" *Puts the phone down
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can you hear anyone saying story at 9:03 PLEASE i swear my phone glitched and i hear myself saying storyâčïžâčïž
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@@weknowIeeknowthat's her husband saying "story?"
@@daisies667 noâčïž
The boy who had his eye shot, skull shattered, brains oozing.. You will forever be missed, your legendary act of saving and wishing those around you a calm goodbye to this world will forever impact this world. Singing, humming, saying jokes and wishing those around you a final goodbye, UtĂžya will remember all who lost their lives on july 22nd, 2011
Edit: sorry if I assumed he died, I really thought he did. But I'm glad he's alive and well.
He survived. He didn't die. He survived the shooting and lost his eye and his arm.
dudeâs somehow fine, no arm though.
@@Desiray77heâs badass ngl, if armageddon comes iâd want him on my side
@@newrecs4969 he is a true vikingđ
he's alive tho??
Its so weird and cool as a Norwegian that the Rotten Mango is covering a case from Norway.
I felt the shake as the bomb went off, and i grew up close to UtĂžya, and still I learned a lot of new stuff from this video. Thank you Stephanie, for talking about this and being so respectful.
As a Norwegian myself, this happened when I was quite small. I was away in the northern parts of the country, but I couldn't imagine how dreadful it'd be if I was there at the time of the tradegy. The prince truly held a wonderful speech about it, and I hope those teens rest in peace.