Piper Cherokee 180 Is The Toyota Camry Of The Skies
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Piper Cherokees are single engine aircraft that are also some of the most commonly flown airplanes around the world. Starting from the base model, the Piper Cherokee 140 with only 150 hp engine, and then you have the cherokee 160 with 160 hp engine, and featured in this video is the Piper Cherokee 180 with a Lycoming 180 hp engine.
The model in this video is a 1965 Piper cherokee 180, recently purchased by Anthony. This is Anthony's first airplane which he bought to acquire his private pilots license. And he plans to also get his instrument rating and commercial rating in this plane. From just the appearance, the aircraft looks well kept, and the engine has recently been overhauled so Anthony's got more than enough hours left on this airplane.
The interior/cabin space was nice and comfortable. And the aircraft was built to seat 3-4 people comfortably with useful load of over 900 pounds. Although you might find it a little bit narrow once the door shut close. The Piper cherokees line of aircraft also only comes with one door which is on the passenger side.
Below are the performance specs for the Piper Cherokee 180
Engine: 180 HP Lycoming
Climb Rate: 700 fpm
Cruise: up to 140 mph
Range: up to 586 miles
Price: $50k - $80k - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I lost the recorded audio sound for this video, hence the wind noise you hear. Sorry about that. Hazard of the job!
Doo Doo happens!
No worries
Can't go wrong with a Cherokee 180 or Archer. Good IFR training platform and decent XC airplane for shorter trips. Btw Mike, that tail was down because the nose strut was extended a bit from being pulled out with the tow bar. Once you get inside the weight will get the nose to settle and it'll sit level. Also, that Cherokee isn't fuel injected so it's an O-360.
More likely the nose is high from climbing up onto the wing. Having owned Cherokee’s for decades I’ve often had this happen from climbing up on the wing, never once from using a tow bar. The tow bar hooks just above the front wheel, below the front strut, and can’t cause this problem.
Mike, we used to call guys like you a self-made man. You’ve followed your instincts and passions. Bravo for a good life!
I have a 1969 Cherokee 180 and I can tell you that plane is not sitting normally. The front strut is close to fully extended and the main struts are almost completely compressed to give it that nose up attitude. You should be able to see about 4" of the gear struts on all wheels. I am not sure why it is that way but under normal circumstances those planes sits a lot more level that this one. The owner should check the gas charges on this aircraft. Landing with undercharged mains could cause some additional wear and tear.
What a difference a few years makes. My 1973 Cherokee 180 has the trim wheel down between the seats, all the gauges on the left side, and a nice wide baggage door. Still no fuel injected engine, though.
Trained in a 180, bought a Cherokee 140 with a 150hp Lycoming. Can't go wrong with any of the Cherokee, they all fly the same. Here is a small note: worked with an engineer at Beechcraft, back when Beech was developing a trainer aircraft they tore a Cherokee 180 apart. This is why the Sundowner has the same profile.
Pity they didn’t put 200 hp in the musketeers lol
Most of my training hours were in a Piper. Its a great plane for solos and takeoff and landings are smooth.If maintenance history is consistent and it has a secondary or auxiliary fuel pump, Cherokees and Warriors are both great planes to purchase in the pre-owned market.
My first plane was a Cherokee 180, N7721N. I got my instrument rating in it, even with it's flaky glideslope receiver. The wife and I had a great time with it. But, I was fascinated by the taper wing. Had to have one. In 1985 I bought a 1979 Archer II, N2953U. It is really something special in ground affect. I still own it to this day.
Haha I just Bought N7721N no way it’s has a new 2022 engine and new paint job now a days
Looks like its forsale again @@ryanfly5769
I got my license in a Piper, and it’s a great and sturdy plane. Regarding the location of the trim, the planes I flew were built in the 70s, and the trim was on the floor, between the two front seats.
Great airplane. I learned in a Cherokee 140 and if I can find a Cherokee 180 that suits my needs and wallet I would jump at the opportunity to purchase it.
Your ability to enunciate clearly and explain aircraft components/avionics in greater detail is excellent. I'm a student pilot and looking forward to eventually purchasing an aircraft of this type. A+
I trained in a plane just like that and I loved it. Can’t go wrong with that plane!
I'm currently training in a piper warrior II, right now. Seems like pretty much the same plane, except the trim wheel is on the floor between the seats, seems like every one you talk to did their training in a cessna, after watching this video, I feel a little better now about training in a piper, thanks for the video.
I learned in a Piper and have instructed in Pipers & Cessnas. Both are good airplanes to learn in, although the struts on the Piper are a little more forgiving if you plonk it onto the runway when landing.
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That's good to know, especially considering the fact that I have not done my solo yet. I would like for my landings to be as smooth as possible.
My dad would take me flying in the Cherokee many times. We even went to Oshkosh three times in it. I remember the trim crank and the brake handle very well. :)
Love this plane. Thanks for the thorough run down
I haven't flown (other than airline) since Feb 82 but I do have a fairly good amount of time in PA-28 180's. While you are most comfortable with the glass cockpit I would feel really comfortable with how that PA-28's panel was outfitted with the old "steam gauges".
My all time favourite for x country with familie and friends. So nice to fly this old bird.
The Cherokee 180 is a sweet little bird. I trained in a Warrior, awesome airplane. I purchased a 1973 Cherokee with the 160hp STC, love it (I prefer the post 1970 throttle quadrant and trim position of the later Pipers). Warrior glides better but they are both nice planes. My Cherokee with the160 STC cruises at 100 knots to 120 knots depending on conditions and throttle percentage. Great little planes.
I love my Cherokee 180C. A few speed mods and a cruise prop and flies 130kt true. 500 hours in it and have been coast to coast. Great plane and cheap to own and fly. I burn 7.4 gal per hr in cruise at 9500.
i owned a share in a 180 at one time. that low tail made it possible to land like a tail dragger and touch that rear skid to the ground in landing. My flight instructor insisted on hearing it touch that skid in order to pass my flight test when I got my license.
Love the 180! Thanks Mike!
I’m 6,0 tall and 225 lbs the plane fits me fine. The shoulders get a lil close but not a big deal. Great lil birds
Salivating... This is EXACTLY the plane my buy-in partner and I want! 140s are good but 180s are best!
Great airplane! I had a 1967 and it was amazing. Good choice!
That was very nice of the brother to let u showcase his plane. #salute to u both!!!!! & that sound @ 14:22 had me dyin lmao
Love the channel Mojo! The Cherokee 180 is a great airplane and fills a lot of mission as you point out, but not all mission. I'm not taking that plane on a sandbar. ;-) think outside the box my friend and take your plane off the beaten path. Come out to Michigan and we will show you a good time!
So thankful to you for making this video. I didn't actually know of the Cherokee 180 until I saw this video while looking to buy a plane. Guess what I bought in August of last year :)
Loved my Cherokee 140
Fun plane to fly.
Awesome video! Not a pilot but got behind the yoke of some Cherokees when I was kid a few times (adults would let you do that sort of thing years ago!); I love this plane! Hope it ends up in MSFS soon...
Very thorough. Great video
Absolutely 💯 love your channel and the information you give. Thank you so much, I learned a lot. Keep it up.
Nice review on a Cherokee. I had a 160 and at 6’2” I was fine. I am not skinny Even with an instructor we did fine. Good plane. I’d love to have one again. I’d fly it all over the place.
Thank you for a great informative video.
Got many hours in the 180 but boy do I love the 235.
I started in NZ 1967 and all was round analogue dials complete with roof type elevator trim so I would feel quite at home but would be lost with glass. but that's progress . I did 195hrs but not flown since late 80's and at 78 that's about to change as I am plugged in for a dual flight soon! it will be interesting to try out my old skills once more. cheers for the vid it was very interesting and worth watching. cheers NZ
Spent a lot of time around those when I was a kid.
I like the paint scheme on this one 😎🤙
Mike, the wind noise was overpowering, please get a cats tail muff for your mic.
Great vid, convinced me ❤
Not now papa, 100k! Love your vids!
I own a cherokee 140. I still have to think sometimes when using the overhead trim.
I had one. As soon as you crank it will come level.
Awesome 😎 thanks
Great video my favorite is the Warrior the trim wheel is on the floor between the seats and it has throttle lever mixture lever too
The sound and the wind oupsss
Love my 67 180
Would love to own something like this but I think my missions will be a little too long for this plane. Great video!
I need one!
I did my discovery flight a couple days ago on may 18 in a similar looking plane. Was a bit tight inside the plane like. Shoulder to shoulder. I’m a big guy so ya. Was a great first experience would recommend trying a discovery flight. Got to experience moving the yoke / rudder peddles a bit :)
Man these things really have exploded in value. Seems like they all go for like $70k plus now for basic vfr planes too that aren’t even in that great of condition. It’s crazy
Perhaps the most accurate description of the 180! Loved the video. You might want to consider a filter for your mic though.
I really want to learn how to fly and get something like this some day
If I were to go back and complete getting my private pilot license I would be more comfortable using this aircraft as I trained in a Piper Cherokee 140 in 1974, but ran out of money. Now I maybe too old and may not pass the physical.
You don’t need a medical anymore. Drivers license and your good. You are limited to 2-3 passengers tho. No ifr either. Look up basic med.
Always check that the wing is seated properly within it's belly-pan by pushing wingtip fore and aft putting torsion on the entire wing and undercarriage assembly. It was shocking how many ppl were flying with affected Cherokees that you could literally wiggle the wing at it's root. The AD was a biggie!
Off topic a little, I just wanted to comment on a JAW DROPPER of a Garmin setup you have. Right On!
This is a constant chord wing. Later models had a "taper" wing, which changed the characteristics on landing....better glide characteristics and tendency to "float" a bit more in ground affect.
Yes , my hershey bar 180 floats as good as a hunk of marble
Thanks
Great video 👌yes shame about the sound quality..I learnt in 152 then did a type rating in a PA 28 181 and wow what a difference. Keep them coming.
I flew 79 hrs in this plane back in 1964 RVAC,
The 172 is the Toyota Corolla of the skies. The Cherokee is more fun, like a VW Jetta or Honda Civic of the skies.
It looks like the front strut is about 3” too high at rest and the mains about 2-3” too low. Likely need seal kits, new fluid and recharged with nitrogen.
Right, Piper designed it to have a flat fore-aft stance on the ground for the shortest take-off roll. The struts in this example need maintenance.
Is the panel shroud off center of the windsreen or is that just an optical illusion? Great video!
In pre buy, check entry door entry wing rib per AD. Most all PA-28s need a new right wing. Where do you think those are?
Did my primary in the tomahawk but most commercial and instrument was done in the Cherokee.
Ah the good ol Tomahawk...good plane to learn how to get out of a spin...i love the Cherokee, Warrior, Archer and the Saratoga. Miss flyin...need to start back up again.
You and me both.
Informative. Thank you!
I’d love a pilot’s license. My uncle used to be, I forget what but something with air traffic control & he was the boss and when’s movie was made in Philly he was the consultant for all flying aircraft
Can anyone suggest plain option for 6”6 wide shoulder ?
Love your videos but the wind noise on this one was a real distraction for me.
I've trained in a Cherokee 180 and own a Cherokee 140, that I'm going to do my instrument and gain a couple hundred hours in before I retire. At which point, I'm seriously considering hitting up your dealership to help me build a sling tsi.
The wind noice made the last 5 minutes unbearable. I could barely hear anything that was said. I'd suggest getting a cat tail for your mic.
I wonder if it will ever be possible to make a family airplane with shoulder room. The one thing I don't like is the cramped side by side. I wonder if there could be a fuselage with lifting body principles to enlarge the cabin. I build competition models so I understand weight. I save grams where possible.
Can you help me find a cheap sea plane that is under 85k? please and thank you.(preferably looking for a 4 seater)
I buddy how's it going ok hope you are well buddy phil. Nice plane but I like the cirrus sr22t. Brilliant starter plane though. Phil.
Great vid as always but defo need to invest in a mic less susceptible to wind noise. It was quite bad.
Mashallah you are a creative and diligent person. I loved you and love your work. I wish you had a job for free. I frankly love your work, I love flying, I love flying, and I love jumping on parachutes from the highest distances. Now I need to build a helicopter, but there is no enough plan to make it.
Very Nice Bro. Get Good Pilots!
That would be cool to get trim on a plane.
What about the 235?
Do you still sell this one
Not all Cherokees have the trim above the head. Some have the wheel in the center.
Lather models had the trim wheel positioned in the centre.l remember flying the P28/180 at the Singapore Flying Club in 1971.I have since retired.In the tropic its get very hot in the cockpit on tht ground.
Don’t forget the 150, 151, and 161.
And the cherokee 140 is the PT Cruiser of the skies....
This might be a silly question 🙋🏾♂️ are you allowed to have a stereo in the cockpit??😁
XM radio all day. But would you listen to that or ATC?
@@mojogrip ATC always. Would it hurt to jam out to 1 jay-Z song after you take off? Jokes aside, in your flying experience. Do ever get moments in your flight journey you think “ I should jam out to something “ ?
@@MrandMrsLivingLife I have when I didn't use flight following. But I've made an agreement with myself to use flight following always. I can listen to my music once I get back in the car.
@@mojogrip thank you 🙏🏾 that’s awesome sir, you are getting us into flying. Next year we start our training
I rock out all the time. My com will lower the music when receiving radio transmissions
Currently training in a piper after doing the first half in a 172. I am wide shouldered and tall. The piper is more uncomfortable to me
I just bought a 1966 Cherokee 180 and that plane sits nothing like mine. That tail is a good 2’ lower than mine sits it looks like
MojoMike… You really need a new mojo-mic! (See what I did there?) 😁👍🏼
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All I heard was the wind rushing by the mic.
HEY
The camry of the skies. Just take out the 33 mpg!
If you give me a car with a hand crank starter I could eventually start it. I've done it while stationed in great Britain. I much prefer an electric starter. same with steam gauges.
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Who's flying with the seats all the way back?? You that tall bro??
I like this plane. It seriously needs so glass upgrades though.
Wish they were 50k lol.. Found a decent one for $75k but ehhh
Idk much abt yt equipment but you need a mic & wins muff
Hello i apperciate you
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Way too much wind noise!
Wonder why Lycoming hasn't worked to increase the TBO on the 360 engine
More like 80k to 100k
Crashed in one of those on my first flight lesson. Killed my brother and practically crippled me and screwed bt insurance. Not a cherokee fan lol
This wasn’t the plane’s fault most likely. It is a very safe platform
Dude gets a wind sock for your camera OMG WTF
My main problem with the Cherokee is its slow speed. It takes forever for you to go places.
Compared to what? At 124kts cruise, I can fly mine from northern Ohio to Hilton Head in about 3 hours!
@@tomnagel5634 hmm, compare to all non LSA Vans RV.
Well you got me there! Lol😅
Thought we were talking certificated aircraft
@@tomnagel5634 I thought I was talking about airplane in general. you spend the same money going slow, which doesn't make any sense. I cruise 190mph or even faster if I burn more gas.