The Pitfalls Of Using An Alcohol Stove In The Cold!
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
- In a previous episode of Signal Outdoors - Shop Talk, I had issues with using my DIY alcohol stove in the cold and most importantly on the snow. I've done some research, made some changes and in the is episode, I'll show you how to use an alcohol stove in the cold.
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Music:
Intro: Last Train to Mars - Dan Lebowitz
In video: Communicator - Reed Mathis
Enjoyed watching your video. I too dislike the roar of my pressurized gas and canister stoves. The last decade or so I have come to really appreciate the quiet of alcohol and wood Twig stoves. I personally am seldom in a hurry when in the woods and these quiet slower methods of cooking and preparing foods and drinks are fine with me.
Agreed, thanks for watching Lonnie. ✌🤠
Good effort my friend. I’ve been using alcohol stoves for ten years, home made, gifted home made stoves, manufactured stoves. After all of that I still go back to the classic Trangia, a bit heavier than a can stove but virtually indestructible. I resisted for years using one because I am also a tinkerer ! Cheers
Thanks Craig! The Trangia is a great stove for sure. Its one of the few that can simmer which 90% of alcohol stoves can't do. I'll probably pick one up one of these days for sure.
2:30 Cut a 4" (or whatever size fits inside your pot) circle from a corrugated box, cover both sides and edges with aluminized duct tape. This will become an insulated pad to put your stove on. You can set it right on top of the snow, or burrow down to the ground. Your little platform/tripod is effective, but there's a lot of parts to 1) Carry, and 2) Lose. Also, raising the stove above the ground exposes it to the wind much more than if it is flush on the ground, as well as allowing wind to access the stove from the bottom of the windscreen.
4:45 The wire clips are a good idea, greatly aid in minimizing "cold pot kill syndrome."
Sweet! I'll do that. Thanks for watching and for the tips. 🤙
Great video. I feel like Shug's videos are required to watch for anyone wanting to winter camp in Minnesota or similar climates. Lots of great tips and info there.
Agreed! Shug is one of the greats, no doubt.
I use my Lixada alcohol siphon stove inside the Goshawk Outdoors titanium multi-fuel wood gasifier stove Eddy-200 Pioneer, it helps elevate the alcohol stove from the cold ground & shelter it from the wind. But I also love using hard wood pellets in the Goshawk stove & a squirt of alcohol to get 'er started. One cup of pellets burns for 90 mins, 35 mins of active flame 🔥 and 55 mins of useable heat with nothing left but some ash.
CZcamsr Mark Young modded a simmer ring and snuff cap from tuna cans for the Lixada siphon. Works great, and u can easily snuff & recover unused fuel, as needed, instead of just letting it burn off.
This shows how all those shed tests don't address the real problems of using an alcohol stove in the winter. Well done. I don't think you've quite cracked all the problems, but you have at least addressed them. One tip I picked up for guaranteed ignition is to twist up a short length of tissue and use it as a wick sticking up just above the top of the stove. It seems to work every time.
Great tip! Thanks
I haven't tried one in the snow, but the "cat can stove" made from a Fanciy Feast and small tomato paste can is supposed to work great. Mine works well in slightly above freezing temperatures. Thank you for the clever tips.
GOOD ADVICE, thanks. Form East Tennessee
Thanks for the tips! I have yet to buy or make a alcohol stove. This was very helpful to me for when I do use one! Appreciate it!!!
Thanks for watching Kenny! Glad you found it useful. Alcohol stoves take some getting used to. Take care 🤙
Your are one awesome person like your videos and you are a awesome inventor keep up the good work really like watching your videos God bless
Thanks for watching and for the kind words it's greatly appreciated. 🏕️🌲
You can try two layers of carboard with a piece of reflectex in the middle. Wrap it all in aluminum foil and it will insulate the stove well. It's ultralight too. I use a caldera cone with a kojin stove myself.
Ok, sweet! Thanks for the tip. I'll try that. 🤙
This is great experimental work. Nothing is perfect but doing it is highest learning.
Thanks, I spent my first year of winter camping in my backyard. I learned a lot but still have much to learn. Thanks for watching. 🤙
All stoves can be a real pain in the winter.. 🇺🇲🤠
No doubt! Thanks for watching.
“Separating the signal from the noise” is an old ham radio operators axiom. Are you?
I'm not a ham operator. I work in IT by trade and operate wireless networks. One of things we pay attention to is the signal to noise ratio (SNR). That's where I got that phrase from. I appreciate you watching! ✌️
thank s
Great video! Thanks so much! ATB 👍😊Wonderful
Thanks for watching. 🤙
My stove has a recessed lip around the top edge of the stove from priming in cold weather... You just put a little alcohol in the lip and it primes / warms the stove and when the fumes rise from the stove it self ignites.. It works great in the cold.
Cool! You must have a Trangia?
@@SignalOutdoors No mine is like Trangia's big brother... It is a pathfinder stove by Self Reliance Outfitters...www.selfrelianceoutfitters.com/ It is a monster stove made of stainless (a bit heavy) but full it will hold 4 ounces of alcohol.... I never put that much in it because I normally just boil water with it. I also want a Trangia but have not picked one up yet.
@@HikeCamp Cool!
Thank you for going through this learning process with us. I know nothing about alcohol stoves. I like your makeshift platform! I know people like them, but what are their benefits aside from the quiet and tinkering?
I'd say ultimately it's mostly comes down to an individual's personal preference. However, below are some advantages.
1. They can be extremely light weight. Mine weighs 11g.
2. The fuel is pretty inexpensive and you can buy it in bulk easily. It's widely available.
3. You have the option to bring only the fuel you need for the trip your going on.
So, for most people it’s probably the weight thing that draws them?
I'd say the draw is mostly the quite as I've never seen a through hiker use one. For the weekend warrior like me, they're great but for a week long trip they're actually heavier due to the amount of fuel you'd need to bring. It's a give and take thing.
@@SignalOutdoors
20-10 years ago, many thru-hikers used alcohol stoves, probably more than anything else. Then iso-butane canister stoves got much more compact and started to proliferate, and the canisters got much more available in the USA. Now few thru-hikers (in the US) still use alcohol.
instead that tripod, easier to make a cardboard circle that fits in bottom of the pot. Wrap it in aluminium foil.
Nothing transfers cold than metal against metal so use a buffer between them like carbon felt and with 2 - 6"×6" pieces you won't even need a stand it worked for me when i used to live in new england ( Connecticut ) hope you try it and that it works for you !!!
Cool, I'll check that out. Thanks for watching!
Wow like it 👍 🔥
Thanks for watching 🤙
Are you talking about Shug's little tables that he said are "expensive "? Those are sweet but I think you are the perfect candidate to invent a "not expensive" camp table!!! Ill test your prototype!! This was truly interesting Aaron. I know NOTHING about these stoves, until now. Is the music your original stuff yet? How is Shugs favorite coffee? I've always wanted to buy some but I always pass because I'm cheap. 😀
Yeah I was referring to those tables Shug was talking about. I figured I could utilize what I'd already have with me. Worked pretty good. My previous two videos had original music. I didn't have anything in vault that worked with this video. The "Medaglia D'oro instant espresso" wasn't too bad. However, anything tastes good in the woods for some reason.
@@SignalOutdoors those tables are pretty sweet!!
here's a simple trick. use rolled toilet paper as a wick. it works for me every time in cold weather !
Cool idea! Thanks for watching.
Alcohol stoves: 👍🏽
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Love the hat, gotta keep ur noggin warm. Once hypothermia sets in, u start making poor decisions. Form over fashion. Hyoh!