Why I QUIT Iracing after reaching 3000 Irating
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- In this week's commentary video I cover my struggles with winning on iracing, and the difficulties of winning when you're between 3000 and 4000 irating.
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Once I learned winning wasn't everything I loved iRacing even more. Sure winning is great, but I'd rather race in top split and finish well then race in lower splits and never be challenged. I've learned so much from those who are 4k+ than I ever did against those in the lower splits. If I can finish top 5 in a 3k+ SOF that feels like a win for me. Just gotta set your own expectations based on your SOF/matchup.
Well said
Yep, this past talladega week in D class cars really helped me see that. Had three wreck outs, and committed pushing a guy to win and get p2 by .05
I just reached the 2000K level and it is so much harder to even get top 5 finishes.
Prior to this I was able to just ride in the top 10-15 and as the cars racing way to hard crashed out or killed their tires I had no problem finishing up front and fighting for wins.
But now finishing 10-15 requires me to race hard and taking more risk.
Yea wins don’t mean anything really because you don’t know if they were all in the bottom split …
The beauty of racing in general is there is always room for improvement. You will never hear me say, "that's the best I can do."
Same here!!
I almost never win races but I'm always trying to be consistent. You have to think like the old Winston cup points system when trying to grow your Irating- consistently good finishes win you the cup- checkers or wreckers does nothing for you. I just eclipsed 3200 for the first time last night. A year ago I never thought I'd even touch 3000.
Yep consistency is a great way to approach the game as well. It definitely takes a mindset switch which I’ve had to go through multiple times now
I only play Road classes, but I can kinda relate. Being over 6k is also somewhat of a challenge mentally for me. At this point, you are practically top 3 in the grid, so iRacing expects you to be ~top 5-6 at worst to not lose anything. Which is not an unrealistic expectation, because raw pace dictates a good chance for this, but this also means that you simply cannot make a mistake in any of your races, cause your rating gets screwed. I'm still not over my anxiety for losing rating after a race, while it shouldn't mean much - it's just a number that is calibrated based on the law of large numbers (so your rating trends to your actual rating over time).
In oval almost every 5k+ has an alt because pace can only get you so far. Contact, late race cautions, pit strategy all work against consistent results in oval that having a really high irating requires.
I know this feeling you're talking about, but I think over the years I learned how to tame it!
I raced NR2003 when it was in it's most popular times and after a few years, I also put my wheel aside because I was #1 tired of practice, practice and more practice and #2 very few wins. Me being a lot younger than now - if I raced NR2003 in it's heyday you can see i'm not a young guy anymore - I had some trouble dealing with all the losing! It's indeed tough!
Fast forward, this year, I finally subscribed iRacing. I never liked the monthly/ payed content, but I wanted to race ovals again against real people.
In roughly 2 months, I have 2800 irating and all the races I do, it's split #1 and people at the front often go away into the distance.
So, I know that I'll hardly win a race in the near times - unless I go to a rookies race and just happen to join a group with little experience - but I'm ok with it!
This week as Chicagoland, my 1rst races I was 0.3 sec slower in the average race lap time, then 0.2 and last night only 0.1 slower than the race winner. That made me happy. This old guy is still learning tricks and somehow still going fastish XD
So, yeah, there are always positive things to take from the races.
I can find this very relatable, at the begining of the current season I moved up to C class and I went from regularly winning races to not winning any which means my irating dropped from about 1500 to 800. it was very demotivating but recently i have been practinging and practicing and I have won around 5 races in C class in the past few weeks.
Great job! The switch from rookies to c class is always a rude awakening because generally your irating coming out of rookies just places you way too high and it takes time to truly find out where you are
Same things happening to me atm, how much practice per week are you doing?
@@SwordnScale I’m usually on iracing 3-4 hours a day on weekends and 2 hours on weekdays
Loving the grind and making progress. Reached the 2k mark recently on both oval and road. Just at the point where I focus on trying to get solid finishes and breaking even or slight gains in IR. Definetly have some major learning to do if I'm going to get faster anywhere near the pace of top guys that I run leagues with. You know its scary when any given oval you can be over a second off.
Yep I’ve always said Iracing is 80% knowledge 20% execution keep at it!
This was a really good video. I lost interest in publics after reaching a 2k plateau and now only race league. I agree that winning does seem out of reach in higher splits.
i’m currently sitting in the low 2k irating and i actually like when i get placed in the top split despite my chances of winning being near zero. i don’t care that i’m car number 24 in a 26 car field. i look at it as i’m racing against guys who are much better than i am and i can learn more from what they’re doing differently compared to me
This I suspect is about to become a very relatable video. I race dirt in an australian timezone so the numbers are even lower than dirt in the US. It’s my first season on iracing and i’ve just yesterday gotten my iRating just over 2K. The issue that leaves me with is that because the number of racers is smaller here, I get put in the top split with guys who have 3/4/5K iRatings and even in a fixed series I just don’t have the experience to hang with them.
BUT, i’m not feeling disheartened yet. I’ll likely go a long time without a win now, but i’m looking forward to learning and improving and buying some setups so I might be able to keep the leaders in my sights during the open series races.
Thanks for sharing your insight it was great
That mindset shift I think is the #1 way to prevent burnout!
Great video 👍
Loved your vids lately Justin. I'll be retiring in December, because it's all just become too much. We have discussed this before, but the pressure to perform at the high levels of sim racing are maddening. I'm unbelievably proud of my 6k+ road and my 57xx oval, but I can't be bothered to continue to put in the time and effort required to maintain that. I've accomplished all I've ever wanted, but the numbers have made me numb to racing. I no longer get enjoyment from just running laps. It's become dominating, or nothing. Sad, but it's time for something new for me. If a high iR is your dream, ABSOLUTELY chase it, but beware of what comes with it that isn't often spoken about. Thanks again Yee, appreciate your insight!
I suppose a lot of my issues may have stemmed from being an extremely niche driver. My main series have long been B Open and Late Model (before it was ruined by setup shops), and especially the Solstice. I am thankful to be a top-level Solstice driver, but there just isn't the amount of top talent to support my level in that particular car.
Honestly I was beginning to fizzle out before starting to make videos. I knew I wasn’t ready or willing to make any serious attempts to progress further. But making videos adds a whole new reason to race and seeing people watch and comment on it and building up a community has turned the hobby into something I’ve always done alone into something I can always come back to. Hopefully it stays like that for a while.
League racing my dude. Race for the fellowship and fun, not iRating.
@@toobrafter Been there, done that. 11x champ, so it's just time to do something else, maybe some IRL track days. (:
I just bought iRacing because it has best AIs vs. all other sims. I bought all GT3 cars and lots of road tracks that mimics ACC.
I dont even bother racing online. I did not know iracers treat the game like a career but props to you guys!
I used to race in a league and it was serious time dedication. Tons of people all into want to win. I simply want to race and follow cars. In many human race, i just intentionally follow them, overtake them and slow down to yield and then follow them again because i dont care about winning but just racing door to door all days 😂
Now that iracing AIs are super intelligent, i can pop in and race anytime in any car/track combo.
I’m at around 2500 road irating and that’s about the point where you have to put in quite a lot of practice to get up to speed. I would love to win but mainly race to be on pace and competent but at that irating you do have to put in the practice. That leads me to not racing as much as I’d like because it can be so time consuming.
Yep it's either you put in time to learn the track, or you put even more time in to be good enough to not need to practice much haha
i will say it's very hard to win in iracing I've doing this for 2 years and irating is almost 3300 but lately i took a 5 week break on officials cause i was burnt out i have about 300+ starts it gets pretty stale thx for explaining and i will make sure to subscribe thx man
Yeah it's a super common feeling to get burnt out where you are because the races seem like so much effort for seemingly so little reward. It's all about reworking goals and mindsets at this level imo.
It's all about mindset and goals, as you said. My peak iRating is 1800, I'm at 1600 right now (only been going for a year, with a 5 month break in there). Even in the splits I'm in, I never expect to have a shot at the win. I have 2 oval wins total. I somehow have more road wins, despite only having done maybe 15 road races.
So, if I win, I'm thrilled. But I'm not racing for wins. I'm racing to improve. I want to get a higher iRating because in theory, that will get me some cleaner races. I know there is questionable driving everywhere, but in the bottom splits, it can be really weird. For example, I ran the first ARCA time slot this week in the 3rd split (out of 4) and was one of only 4 cars to finish on the lead lap.
Another thing about chasing wins, in racing, there could be 10-25 other drivers competing for that win. I'd say you winning 25% of your races is crazy good. I'd be happy to win 2% of mine! Great video! I really like the stuff you put out.
Winning in iracing at all in any split is so much harder than people give it credit for! That’ll be another video topic eventually.
My philosophy to enjoying sim racing is to solely look for Good racing win or lose.
I don’t win very often but I’m constantly getting top 5’s in all oval classes. I’m currently at 3600 on oval. I’ve also found that running road has helped me with oval more than I could have ever imagined.
I don’t run much road, I’m curious what ways has it helped you?
Yeah do please share! I assume it has something to do with being able to feel the car and what it needs to be able to do what you want it to do?
@@DJYeeJay I came from 6 months of road and just started ovals. On my 20th oval race I got a P3 in A fixed at Daytona. In road you really have to master brakes and throttle, so that transfers over to oval. Getting on a podium in an A class road race would take so much more practice by comparison imho. Daytona is a wild card and maybe I'll get destroyed on medium tracks. I'm hoping to keep learning a lot from you and a couple other oval guys here so I can avoid major pitfalls. Thanks for all the help so far!
I started as an ovaler, then became a rovaler, then eventually ran everything. Running road helped me to learn passing maneuvers, setting up passes, car positioning, defending, and pacing myself. You need all of these to have the full package.
Natural born road guy here. I earned over 2k road iRating fairly easily then started on an oval career and have been hovering around 2500-3000 for the last six months. I tend to struggle at the cookie cutters (which I also find boring to be honest) and avoid superspeedways, but I excel at the short flat tracks. This week I have two wins at New Hampshire in the C fixed and haven’t been lower than 3rd in 8 starts. I also do fairly well in the Gen 4 Cup and got a win last week at Atlanta.
If you’re wondering how road skills translate to oval, I have found it gives you the biggest advantage on the tracks where braking and line selection as well as building speed on the throttle at corner exit are more important. NH is a great example, as-is IRP and Gateway. It also teaches you a lot about saving tyres, because being smooth is fast on a road course, and being smooth on an oval means you build up less heat.
Another reason road driving is helpful is because you can also learn to shift gears properly in a stock car without losing time or unsettling the vehicle. I see a lot of people struggling to downshift when entering a corner because they simply get off the throttle and change gear, while the game essentially dumps the clutch causing axle hop and a loss of rear traction. You can fix this by giving the throttle a blip at the right moment. Learning to change up and down with the anti-stall clutch option checked will gain a surprising amount of time for an aspiring sim racer.
I have just been iracing for a little under 2 months now.
My Oval rating is 3.66 /1333 I won a Kansas race in the trucks.
Then Darlington came. I joined a open 80 lap truck race I thought was a 40 lap fixed race and qualified 6th, got spun on lap 2 the recovered to run top 8 for 65 laps until I had enough being bullyed by guys who act like your not even there and if I dont give up the place we get wrecked.
I lost my temper, lost focus and killed the truck.
The freaking top guys ran 29.3-30.5's almost their entire 80 run.
No cautions BTW.
So I ask is that good to hold on to a top ten in the B licence open setup race with a fixed set up?
I still dont know how to get around Darlington I only just tryed the track 4 days before I was ok to race it.
I would rather say around 1500 and win lol, sounds crazy but at 2000 im in top splits and always mid pack
Great video! Championship points should be viewed as a more indicative stat than wins imo... for me, if I'm improving my average points/race every season, that's genuinely how I know I'm getting better.
People should ask themselves: What would you rather be? A guy in the bottom splits getting a ton of wins though those wins are only valued at 50pts?
or would you rather be a guy who has exclusively been in the top splits, not winning, but averaging 100ish pts a race?
As you know baseball is my passion, and an analogy I like to use is... would you rather be bashing a ton of home runs in the minors or would you rather be grinding out walks/singles in the majors?
That’s a good way to think about it! It definitely took that mindset change from me at some point
Never stop learning
For me, it's hard to race seriously when people don't even practice the basic racing line, so when you are racing side by side against them in road racing and they aren't taking the racing line, you can accidentally turn into them because you are expecting them to do X but they choose not to do so. . .
Edit: By the way, I completely agree. The goals I set are not "winning" a race. Even though I generally start top 3 every race, my goal isn't my position, it's my pace, consistency, and lap times. If you focus on these things you will have fun and enjoy playing the game. If you focus only on winning, you're gonna be in for a bad time. The only reason why some F1 drivers win all the time, for example, is because they simply have a better car which has been proven throughout history. There is none of that in iRacing, it's just you and skill alone. Can't win them all.
One stat I like to compare no matter what I'm racing is my average points. I may get 100 points a race in lower divisions, then make it higher up and still get 100 points. In my mind I'm still running at my level, it's just that there are a lot more drivers at or above my level than there were before. With the higher participation even in the lower levels I was worried I was getting worse, but when comparing points to prior years when I won more in the same class of racing I see that my points have actually gone up while my wins and top 5s go down which means the competition is just getting better
I took a step back from iRacing for a week because I felt I was taking it to serious. When I came back 4 races, found myself with another win. I been blessed to get 11 wins after 5 months on there server and never took them for granted. I always soak it al in. I have if I'm not mistaken won some top split races too. Right now I'm at 2017 on irating.
I mean compared to a 1v1 game like chess, you can consider "being in the top half of the field" as "winning". Basically anything where your iR still goes up.
Simracing or just racing is a competitive environment. Even if you start racing for fun, at the end you will be intoxicated by competition and irating. Irating is basically for matchmaking, but for most of us as well evidence for our performance. Every race I tell myself „do it and have fun“. It is really hard just to enjoy racing. As soon as I see the results sheet I am in the mood of „next time I have to do better“…
I always say this, if you have the ability (chance and luck) to win, win. But if you can’t, survive and hope to finish well. Top 5s and top 10s are still great to have along with wins and championships
“Want to win? Fall in love with losing”
2:12 yeah, this always sucks. I have a few tracks where I have an easier time finding my feel and can compete, a few tracks am just meh, and a handful that I am comically bad at no matter the set up. So often times at the start of a week I will be in the 'wrong' splits from either being too high or low on irating from the previous week. Some iracers at the lower end of my range think I am headed for eNASCAR stardom and most people on the high end have to think someone else races for me. Late nights when there are only 2-3 splits, it is bad because I usually end up in the top one where people think that 15th place finish is going to make or break the professional eracing career. Just not fun people to race with at all.
There is virtually no give in top split for the short fixed races, it makes everything super frustrating like you said. Sometimes you’ll be able to follow a really fast guy though and that’s when you can learn the most so I’d say it’s a good opportunity
On a separate not here Justin, You mentioned about using budget wheels, pedals etc. I have not heard what you use for a CPU, GPU, as well as monitor and your settings. To me this is probably a big a deal as pedals or wheels due to the fact I started in 2019 with a ASUS ROG G73-SW Laptop with almost every setting in graphics set to Off, I think a couple may have been on Low and using a LG 32" 720P TV as a monitor (It died 12-9-2019) So I was able to get a system where I could run most settings on Low. Finally when I was able to actually set some of the graphic settings to On or Med/High it blew my mind what I was missing ( Still not quite there as far as graphics and ability to see things like I should be able to). Making this longer then needed. I think a video going over your CPU, GPU, Monitor resolution and FPS would help people who may be struggling to hit the same marks you do as it is hard when you cannot see them especially at full speed. I noticed your FPS shows like 200 on your videos but the Meters that show the R,G,I as well as CPU use is not enabled ( I only mention that as it gives me something I can compare with as well as give me something I need to be planning to update) but if the settings are in ball park then know I should be able to see and hit the same marks etc.
I covered it a bit in my setup video but I have a very beefy computer mainly for all the other video games I play. Rtx 3080 and a ryzen 5600x along with a single view sonic 1440p 144hz monitor. I raced for a long time though on a super budget setup with everything on low
@@DJYeeJay Oh ya that's good, I was just able to ( I believe Nov 2021) Update my MB, GPU and my CPU. Added the ASUS Rog Strix Z-490 E Gaming with a i7-10700K, and a ASUS Rog Strix RTX 2060 OC GPU , I won silicone lottery the 10700K runs al cores at 5.2Ghz No Problems Wish I would of waited a year on GPU as I can get a ASUS ROG Strix RTX 3080 for about $100 more then the RTX 2060 cost last fall. I do have a Meta Quest 2 256GB VR just have not tried it worried my system is not beefy enough from what I have read anyway
It's crazy reading these comments and seeing how relatable this video is. I'm no exception. Textbook example, went over 10 months without a SINGLE ranked win. And the win that broke that streak was my first ever top split win (ARCA at Michigan 😂)
I hope guys watching this who are enjoying the sim and struggling with this exact thing stick with it. It'll take time to learn what it takes to win in top split consistently.
Damn 5ks can’t win a race anymore now that we have a constant rotation of farmers running arca 🤣
Avoiding the big one or every crash is basically winning because Iracing is a game where anyone can play so you know the big one especially on big tracks or where cars are all grouped together will happen because it doesn't just happen in Iracing it happens in almost every racing game. So avoiding the big one is already a win in a way.
Well said!
i have won like 2 nascar officials since i got to top split regularly and it’s been like half a year but i like running in the front of the pack and learning from pros i don’t have a problem with me not winning
Would you say that a goal of running a clean race and finishing above your staying number is a good goal?
That’s a good goal too but sometimes being aggressive and going for something a little risky will really teach you things you can’t learn from just being safe.
@@DJYeeJay oh I like that. Next time I'm in second and I am too afraid to make an aggressive pass for the lead because I don't want to crash out, I'm going to think of this advice.
IRating is a good measure of Time+skill combined. It shows a good understanding of how racing for points works.
In 5 years the top guys will have 20k IRating, but that doesn't mean they are 2x as good as now. It just means on average, the gain more raring than they lose. It adds up.
At some point the top players will be unreachable by even pro drivers who start iracing because the possible points gained over time will take at least a year or two to gain.
looking at the stats iracing posts about demographics, 3k actually is top 1-5% depending on the series and discipline.
In Dirt rally, it increased my difficulty to elite and it seemed insurmountable. I went from winning by 1 minute, to 30 seconds, to placing below 15th. It hurt at first, but i realized that i just love the driving. Its just exhilarating to me. So i kept playing. And lo and behold….. i am now winning against elite by 10-20 seconds. Obviously this isnt that hard of a level, but it was for me. Winning isnt everything. You need to measure your RELATIVE progress. If you are going from 15th to 18th, then you need to figure out your mistakes. If you go from 15th to 13th, thats an improvement and to me is still rewarding.
Holy Crappers, I never thought about that Like how I have never won in NWRS, and seems lately I thought I had just lost something (Talent or little I had) was pretty bummed and thinking maybe it was a sign I should just say ok I suck lets quit the charade that you can race cars now.. In 2020 I won 20 races, 2021 i won 12, 2022 a whopping 2 but I now race mostly at night early AM with if lucky 1 split maybe 2 and I see a lot of Div 1 drivers and ones with between 4-7K iRating. I also am not able to put the hours in practicing like i did in those previous mentioned years which is probably just as big a deficit then racing a 6K irating driver/drivers when my best irating I think was a 2700
It’s important to put everything into perspective once you reach a certain level or else you’ll be setting goals that are just not attainable with the amount of effort you are willing and able to put in. It causes burnout in so many people
i quit for 9 months worst thing i ever could have done, forgot all skill no joke. I used to run up front nose to bumper , mistakes happen people wreck , i was getting reported because i would mess up or get netcoded like when your car slames into bottom line when your actual moving up the track in realtime. So don't get discouraged and quit maybe just back off for a bit run back take it easy . kinda like a mind reset . Iraceing truely takes a toll on the mind, i felt like a bad driver for ruining others races but i now realize it happens to everyone, no matter how bad people bash you. keep your head up
If I would be racing in circles for hours, I would also be quitting, for mental health reasons.
Right now I am struggling with just bad drivers. I can’t get through two laps without someone wrecking. My oval irating went way down. It’s the most frustrating thing.
Man there was never a time where i could fight for wins on my journey to 5k road.i eventually just went from losing in second split to losing harder in top split. I have like a
It’s really discouraging trying to progress without buying the tracks necessary to compete in non Mazda/Street Stock/Legends races. I don’t have $300 laying around to throw at a paid service to race on a track once or twice a year ya know? I’ve found the torture of the feeder series is getting to me psychologically
I went through exactly what you’re going through. When I was ~16 I was just doing pickup cup and honestly I enjoyed it because it was only a regular video game to me. I wasn’t really trying to be anything other than a pickup cup gamer if that makes sense. Eventually though I was like “I need to get out of here”
Do the 8 races per series and get the Iracing bucks. Let Iracing buy some of the stuff for you.
For me iracing needed to be where it is today but 10 years ago.
I had alot more time back then.
Nowadays I'm so busy with work and family that I simply can't commit the practice that it takes to compete at such a level.
I made it to 3.1k and haven't raced in quite a while.
Yeah it’s definitely hard to be competitive without the commitment and that makes it hard to go back and race in a more casual sense
I quit iRacing because of the shear frustration of it. It's a wreck-fest plain and simple. Last season I had an A license with a decent SR and IR. Now I'm a B and will probably get dropped to a C next season. I'm not saying I don't make mistakes but I go out of my way to give room to other drivers, (even if it cost me the race) why can't others do the same? You can't finish a race in any kind of good standing if you're wrecked, period. The last race I was in made 10 straight races I got wrecked. 10 straight! Others will disagree and blame me saying I'm being unreasonable (it's racing after all, accidents happen) and that's fine. But there's also something called "Racing Etiquette" and people need to learn that and stop being so damn selfish. For me it's just not worth it anymore.
With each race you should change your expectations and focus on getting better. Last night i was going to be happy with a top 10.
I'm currently stuck in oval 3k purgatory. I win no more. Im pretty happy with top 10s now.
Winning has never been everything. I'm in Div 5 rn and I'm just happy to get top five or podium. It's fun and I expect to climb higher just to race cooler cars. I'm here to improve my skills and maybe win a few races. Only maybe. lol
Well Ratings don't mean a thing. If you don't enjoy your racing and expect too much, you are never going to do good. Who cares if you win or not, just compete against the drivers in the race and get the best position you can. if everyone drives a clean race, it should be a fun race no matter where you place in the end. Some tracks you may be better than others.
You should be proud to have such a high IRating, like I said, if you enjoy the racing, who cares what position you get at the finish line.
i quit because i can’t afford 3 new 15+ dollar each tracks every week, i’m in highschool i got more important stuff to pay for w that money
Yeah that’s the unfortunate part of iracing. I once heard someone say that the ridiculous cost of iracing was done in part to gatekeep the hobby to people truly serious about it. It unfortunately leaves out a lot of kids like you and myself when I was in high school
I wish I won 1/4 of my races. I think i've started 50 races now, haven't won once. barely got 2nd twice. i plan to not win for a long time still. i'm at 1.9k road racing, not oval.
Good luck man! I'm about there on road too although I pretty much only run road when arca goes there lol so iratings don't mean a lot in those lobbies it's a different beast
If you care so much about winning, then just take it easy for a bit of a time, lose your iRating, and then you come back into a split where you are at the top again.
i’m at 6.8k now, very stressful to maintain lmao
You can say that again lol
I've gotten lucky enough to where I can beat the large majority of drivers on iracing even though I'm only at 4.4k and wreck so rarely I have a 4.99 safety rating, almost every race I do is top split and I finish top 3 in most races, I just don't do a lot of official races, most of the racing I do is in leagues and that's where I've improved the most, because leagues allow you to take risks without the consequences of your license being demoted for being in a wreck you didn't cause and you get to be familiar with people in the community.
The best way to play iracing and get better truly is to treat it like a simulator rather than a game of trying to get the highest irating and the highest license, that will come with your skill level improving.
Try learning tracks before you just hop on and grind officials, see where you can push the limits and get comfortable with the car/track combo, I know there are people who make fun of practicing but there's a reason they don't win, practice makes perfect and there's no denying it, also try to learn from people better than you rather than complaining about having to compete against them, but above all just don't take it too serious, nothing ruins a race more than that one guy who took his anger a little too far over voice chat lol.
I think racing is the by far best way to practice unless you have good resources to follow for solo practice. I’ve been forced to practice more than ever this year with making the guide videos though. My IR is only up to 6.7k from 6.0k start of the year, but my win percentage is also up to 30% this year from 15% last year so there’s definitely merit to more effort and practice producing results. I just think practice time is better used by just racing for official races.
You looking for a truck team to run with?
I’m already working with some people already and kinda have my own thing going with the Arca Farm as well. Thanks though!
I'm having a similar issue with Gran Turismo 7 - and GT Sport earlier...
comparing a hobby as niche as sim racing to apex, not really the best comparison but it still gets the point across if a little light on how it hits. it's like if I compared mario kart to dark souls, both can be great fun with friends but one has a hell of a lot more players than the other, and in dark souls I can't win all my PVP encounters.
I learn better from a solid ass whopping so that's why I keep coming back to iRacing as it's the only place I can get a somewhat decent race going, try getting clean and close racing on assetto or RF2, nothing.
Ahh yeah I agree iracing is more like dark souls. I guess then I’d say the current irating system is like dropping every newbie halfway through the game
@@DJYeeJay it's why i call iRacing the dark souls of Sim racing. Great video btw
For me I care more about my Avg finish, I just want top 10s.
Being consistent is a great goal as well!
Im at 3.9K Keeping up with thr 8k guys is a win for me, considering I only get to race 1 week a month due to work, and no matter how good we think we are. Always someone better in the world.
I'm at like 1800, usually 3rd or lower split and still don't win lol
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Even at 2500 I’m almost always in the top split. You start a new series and have no idea how drive that car and you are still going against the best drivers.
I keep getting shunted in rookies bottom split.
I made it to 3k road, once… 😅
oh no 😪😪😪 i can buy you Some tracks if it can help, serioulsy
Those 7 wins must of been sweet though
I’m slow even in the bottom splits.
Not even 3000...I been in top splits since 2000 with the occasional 2nd split
True you are right, I guess 3000 is more or less the level where you get pretty much no top splits.
Why does winning matter so much? I race because I enjoy driving and racing- who cares if it's for 1st or 12th? Probably best to chill out and enjoy it rather than getting your ego all out of shape because you're not always the best. It's only a game, it doesn't define you.
I quit and ive had 5000 a few times.... community is full of a bunch of cancel culture karens.....
Good. The game is simple and patjedid
My friend likes to brag that there irating is better, but they never play so
It's not a racing game. It's a points game based on racing. The ONLY way to get top split iRating is to gain points over time. Wins DO NOT MATTER. Only your points matter.
Understand that earning 40pts in 6th place is much more efficient than risking your 40pts for another 6pts and fighting for 5th. Most of the time wrecking out.
STEADY GAINS OVER TIME. That's how the top racers got their rating. They earned it 20pts at a time, over years.
If im able to finish a race with 0x incidents, I consider that a win...
So, its a skill issue? Why not just become better?
You quit from iRacing and just sit on the chair after the work? Or going to AC public servers? No better alternate here yet
Didn’t play racing games at all
Why would you pay for 2 accounts for 4 years then say you couldn’t afford content? With that extra $480 you could have owned all the nascar content.
I actually have like 6 accounts because my first 4ish years on iracing I would just wait for really good new account promos (like there was one for $22 for 2 years subscription) and only race rookie. I only have 2 accounts I’ve ever purchased content on. One of them has all the content I race, one of them has only superspeedways
@@DJYeeJay I wouldn't even be able to keep up with the logins lol
Bro I have no clue what you're talking about, you said you did the rookie street stocks for 2 years. Either you were a dependent or a student or you just didn't prioritize iracing. You can't expect to spend 2 years driving the same car and then all of a sudden buying all the cars and tracks and then having to struggle with alone not to mention people get better the higher you go up that's kind of how skill based match making works.
It sounds like you just gave up because you took the most unorthodox method of all time to enter into iracing.
Like I said in the video, it's an extreme case, but I know many people struggle with going from contending for wins in a lower split, to having no chance in a higher split. In each scenario it's about putting goals into perspective.
The participation trophy genre will never understand.
Iracing punishes you just for showing up.
most will race 30 races in a week, not a year, youve hardly ran any miles really lol
git good
clickbait title. your still Iracing