Who would be a nurse right now?

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  • čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
  • When are we going to learn?
    Tory MPs justify uncapping bankers bonuses so we can attract more of the brightest and the best.
    And yet they conveniently forget that approach when it comes to our NHS staff, our teachers, and other public sector workers who we rely on day to day.
    Why? Because they don't use these services, so they don't care.
    We have an NHS that runs on the goodwill of those who go above and beyond - and it's running out.
    Note: This clip is from a few months back - hence the inflation number.

Komentáře • 95

  • @roddychristodoulou9111
    @roddychristodoulou9111 Před 23 dny +2

    Exactly the same can be said for teachers , 40,000 teachers left the profession in the last two years .

  • @jamessteel9016
    @jamessteel9016 Před 24 dny +37

    Marina spot on as ever.

    • @carlishiggins
      @carlishiggins Před 23 dny

      Squatting Tax on 7 million rich foreign students in our Universities can pay for our workers £40 an hour, increasing minimum wage from £11 hr to £40 an hr, care workers, security, warehouse workers who work pain sick 50 hrs a week,

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz Před 24 dny +43

    I do think we should keep in mind they keep saying you can't keep putting more money, as it gets worse every year. However every year the last labour government was in power they put in more money and it got better. It is not money, it is the mismanagement, corruption and incompetence of the government in charge of the money

    • @corvus1238
      @corvus1238 Před 24 dny

      The creeping privatisation creams an amount of money off for profit that could be used to increase staff levels. It is immoral to profit from people's illness.

  • @user-mn1xl1cy1r
    @user-mn1xl1cy1r Před 23 dny +15

    Jeremy Vine .Tory boy .

  • @alexwright2521
    @alexwright2521 Před 19 dny

    This amazing women speaks sense kèep it up normal people love you and thankyou

  • @user-ol6rd7pl5t
    @user-ol6rd7pl5t Před 24 dny +36

    The problem is most of the money going into the NHS is bring syphoned off into privately businesses, the Tories handing out huge contracts to private businesses who charge twice the cost of everything was done in house, the Tories have calved up the entire country & divided the spoils amongst themselves.

    • @lamestreammedia3154
      @lamestreammedia3154 Před 23 dny

      No it's mismanagement from within. Is down to the trust.

    • @KevinSmith-ki7yl
      @KevinSmith-ki7yl Před 23 dny

      @@lamestreammedia3154 brainwashed Tory

    • @robertdownie9218
      @robertdownie9218 Před 23 dny +9

      ​@@lamestreammedia3154no a good chunk of the money never reaches the NHS to be mismanaged, remember the new health England has a majority of private sector providers on the board making desisions on critically how and where the money is to be invested

    • @MarkJones-lk9jy
      @MarkJones-lk9jy Před 23 dny +6

      Billions going to private nursing agencies
      Privatisation in full swing

    • @kevinshanahan6064
      @kevinshanahan6064 Před 23 dny +3

      @@MarkJones-lk9jyMark, bit out of date on that one. As the budgets have been squeezed the NHS can no longer afford to pay the external salaries and admin and profit costs of the agencies, so the NHS has been recruiting from abroad to back fill. Hence the moan of “too many immigrants”.

  • @paulthornton8871
    @paulthornton8871 Před 23 dny +2

    You are nowhere near!
    Try finishing your shift at 9pm,driving home 20 miles,getting food,getting a shower, getting sleep, getting up and travelling 20 miles back before a 6am
    All for a garbage wage and no thanks
    You are wasted,your home life suffers and for what?

  • @Chrisnffc82
    @Chrisnffc82 Před 24 dny +23

    I’m trying to think of a reason . I’m struggling. The nurses, GPs and this country deserves better

  • @deydododontdedoh.5672
    @deydododontdedoh.5672 Před 23 dny +5

    That traitor Cameron stated why bank CEO's and traders got big big bonuses.
    His reply was we need to pay well to keep the best.
    This it seems only applies to corporate business heads and bankers, everyone else is too expensive for public finances.
    Paying decent wages is not excessive spending it's investing in our public workers and we need to to invest in our infrastructure too.
    Wise investing will bring dividends, we need to build and invest in our people and our infrastructure.
    Not forgetting he also said re the austerity project 'we're in it together' 🤔 Not!
    Banker, CEO's and millionaires have never been in the s##t like the workers who made more millionaires than ever during the pandemic. 🤬

  • @Ayeright.
    @Ayeright. Před 23 dny +4

    Good to see Jeremy Vine demonstrating he's the oracle of knowledge when it comes to why the NHS is in crisis???

  • @stubowills-yq4ys
    @stubowills-yq4ys Před 24 dny +17

    When the University bursary was removed, that caused a huge drop in recruitment. Vocational qualifications, like Nursing and Radiography, don't have that many other options for gainful employment post qualification. In other degree courses there are more transferable skills obtained, increasing job opportunities...
    If one were to make a considered choice in a degree course, without a bursary, who would seriously opt for a dead end vocation (relatively speaking) in a career that is massively undervalued and under paid?
    In terms of personality types, the care and health care professions are mostly made up of caring people. As a country, it feels to me, that the most caring in our society are valued very poorly by the government and often actively undermined.

    • @jodders619
      @jodders619 Před 23 dny

      Nursing is not a vocational qualification. It is a professional qualification.

    • @pocolol8424
      @pocolol8424 Před 23 dny

      @@jodders619 it should not be a degree qualification that is one of the many problems and thank Tory Blair’s education education for that.

  • @ageordieboy
    @ageordieboy Před 23 dny

    I came into the nursing profession in 98
    I did the degree programme so I didn’t get a bursary that my diploma colleagues did…meant they could concentrate on their studies and placement hours without worrying about having to bring in extra money.
    Even though I didn’t have that, I was blessed that at least my tuition fees were still paid at that point by the NHS. About 1,750 per year.
    But I still had to work a full time week in lectures and placement hours and then work a minimum of 20 extra hours to pay my rent, bills, food.
    I left the house at 6am, got home and grabbed an hour to eat, get a nap if I was lucky and then worked till midnight at the earliest. 12 hour shifts in a bar, a restaurant, a nursing home every weekend.
    And today with 9 thousand pound fees per year, they wonder why no one wants to train to be a nurse. To continue to be stuck on a crappy wage. Idiots 🤷‍♂️

  • @KevinSmith-ki7yl
    @KevinSmith-ki7yl Před 24 dny +12

    Just the fact junior doctors are on under 15 quid an hour is criminal, someone tell me who in their right mind would want to do that job.

    • @arghjayem
      @arghjayem Před 23 dny +6

      Yep. It explains why the number of junior doctors leaving the country for places like Australia keeps going up every year! They get better hours down under plus they earn more. A first year doctor here earns about 32k. In Oz they can earn between 35 and 49K depending on which state they’re in! And the cost of living is a little better down under too.

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 Před 23 dny

      Same student scumbags who worked for atos and were paid extra money and uni credits for the more ppl they kicked of the benefits??
      Really?? You can't see it??

  • @debnbhuy
    @debnbhuy Před 23 dny +1

    Vine is such an OSSER !!

  • @user-ol6rd7pl5t
    @user-ol6rd7pl5t Před 24 dny +12

    Underpaid, under appreciated, understaffed & overworked, why would anyone want to work in the NHS. It's hardly surprising that only people coming from even worse of 3rd would countries are the only ones will to put up with the conditions.

    • @lamestreammedia3154
      @lamestreammedia3154 Před 23 dny

      Average pay of a nurses 35k

    • @kevinshanahan6064
      @kevinshanahan6064 Před 23 dny +1

      @@lamestreammedia3154The figure you have given is the same one that was quickly de-bunked quoting London as if this is paid throughout the UK. To get £35k outside London you would need to be typically Band 6 which is Sister / Charge Nurse level. Nearly all nurses are far junior.

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 Před 23 dny

      I wouldn't pay a child more to kick ppl of welfare. If you think that's moral than more fool.you.

    • @lamestreammedia3154
      @lamestreammedia3154 Před 23 dny

      @@kevinshanahan6064 'The Royal College of Nursing estimated in 2021 that the average annual salary of an NHS nurse is £33,384. The pay rise introduced across the NHS in 2023 means that average is probably now closer to £37,000.'
      Plus they get full pay up to 12 months on sick. Who else gets that?

    • @lamestreammedia3154
      @lamestreammedia3154 Před 23 dny

      @@kevinshanahan6064 The most common grade for NHS nurses is Band 5, which accounts for about 42% of nurses in England.
      That's the pay grade for newly qualified nurses as well as some more experienced ones. Their salaries range between £27,055 and £32,934

  • @MrOliver1444
    @MrOliver1444 Před 23 dny +1

    But also spending a lot on private contracts within the NHS (Tory nepotism)

  • @samb3783
    @samb3783 Před 20 dny

    They've all moved to Australia and New Zealand.

  • @brianglobe1
    @brianglobe1 Před 23 dny

    I have family in the Philippines training to be nurses I have told them DO Not come to the UK why should they and be treated the way they are

  • @buzx1313
    @buzx1313 Před 22 dny

    22 hour wait for a bed at derriford hospital the other night

  • @jessieb7290
    @jessieb7290 Před 23 dny

    It probably goes to the CEO’s, not the actual hospitals or training or the way things are run.

  • @therealspixycat
    @therealspixycat Před 23 dny +1

    Please don't forget that it is absolutely not clear how much of the NHS budget goes straight to private clinics

  • @tombartram7384
    @tombartram7384 Před 23 dny

    We're lucky here in Wales because Drakeford's mad 20 law took so much pressure off the NHS and now we've got an extra £93m a year.
    (Yes I'm taking the piss)

  • @vitadelicatus
    @vitadelicatus Před 23 dny

    BlaBlaBla.

  • @jonathanwetherell3609
    @jonathanwetherell3609 Před 23 dny

    This is the management instinct. Pay as little as possible and make up for lack by overtime. L:ow pay demoralises and staff will vote with their feet if they can. The reality is that pay does not motivate, a perceived lack of pay demotivates. Over time will be a boost for a week or two but in the long run actually decreases output, as fatigue sets in and reduced hourly output by more than the increased hours. For reference, see the government white paper "The productive working week". Tragically published in 1915 and the lessons keep being ignored and relearnt.

  • @alexfielding8411
    @alexfielding8411 Před 23 dny

    Apparently it’s better to not pay NHS staff decent wage, but pay more to agencies for the same staff but at inflated rates.
    At same time this means more public expenditure for less return as the agencies strip a profit margin from the rate they charge.
    Privatisation by stealth - which was always the plan, make it economically unviable to work as a public servant, so more of those funds can be funnelled via private companies and into investor (rich) hands…

  • @JollyGraham
    @JollyGraham Před 23 dny

    The larger problem is the future of the NHS. As she comments, who would want to be a nurse, doctor or whatever when they are so badly treated.
    We rely on overseas staff which depletes those countries who need them even more than us.
    It’s a real worry which could have catastrophic consequences.

  • @MartinSmith-qt3cc
    @MartinSmith-qt3cc Před 23 dny +1

    Should nothing improve, Within 10 yrs there will be no public services as we know it. Nor could I blame them either.

  • @andyashcroft4049
    @andyashcroft4049 Před 23 dny

    I think there are dark forces at work here behind the scenes pulling the puppet strings

  • @carlishiggins
    @carlishiggins Před 23 dny

    Squatting Tax on 7 million rich foreign students in our Universities can pay for our workers £40 an hour, increasing minimum wage from £11 hr to £40 an hr, care workers, security, warehouse workers who work pain sick 50 hrs a week,

  • @bierfuerall
    @bierfuerall Před 23 dny +8

    now if they only had 350mil a week

  • @andrewmaccallum2367
    @andrewmaccallum2367 Před 23 dny

    Keep up your excellent work Marina ✊

  • @andrewgeoghegan3526
    @andrewgeoghegan3526 Před 23 dny +1

    I came to Canada when I was 15.Best thing my parents ever did for me ! I retire in July and I will have fantastic health care for the rest of my life! Meanwhile the brits are looking down the barrel of a gun, Tuff luck guys, you did it to yourselves!

    • @spanky590
      @spanky590 Před 22 dny

      Not really sure you had a point?

  • @adrianaspalinky1986
    @adrianaspalinky1986 Před 23 dny

    Gp's have pressure to work weekends

  • @pittarak1
    @pittarak1 Před 23 dny +2

    Marina, you’re onto something for sure; we seem to be getting a lot more UK doctors working here in Australia recently.

  • @davidpearson243
    @davidpearson243 Před 23 dny

    The agenda for change needs to alter Nurses need a higher grade !!!a grade 6 ward nurse is a far more stressful and difficult job than a grade 6 OT or physio they get paid the same (I have family members in all 3 occupations)

  • @mauricefox8508
    @mauricefox8508 Před 21 dnem

    50% NHS funding goes to the Private Sector 1/2 nurses train by NHS go & work for the private sector because NHS Nurses pay is so bad & NHS as been so badly staff since 2010 with May Home Secretary deported non British Nurses & Doctors for only reason they wasn't born in the UK pity she do that Sunak Braverman Patel but that wouldn't happen because they are rich or Tories or both

  • @paulmoses23
    @paulmoses23 Před 23 dny

    Unfortunately employment agencies lure nurses, GP’s and care professionals away from the NHS and the Care industry with much higher rates of pay and this is going to destroy morale when they turn up on a shifts that are short staffed. Stop paying out to agencies and pay your loyal staff and make them feel valued!

  • @nioengland
    @nioengland Před 23 dny

    A rotten culture is not the most inspiring

  • @macsmiffy2197
    @macsmiffy2197 Před 23 dny +1

    It’s a strange world. The people on this programme are getting paid an outrageous sum of money for prattling on doing a job which, on the whole, is irrelevant; whilst the people they are discussing are likely to provide essential, healthcare services to everyone in society at some point in their lives. I know which I think is more valuable to society.

    • @kevinshanahan6064
      @kevinshanahan6064 Před 23 dny

      Journalism pays far more when they get media exposure. It’s life.

  • @michaelmouse4024
    @michaelmouse4024 Před 18 dny

    Can Vine be a bit more insincere?

  • @carlishiggins
    @carlishiggins Před 23 dny

    hds uop rich foreign students just want longer holidays in uk, they use universities 4 squatting, ther sugar daddy is rich, Squatting Tax on 7 million foreign students can pay for our workers £40 an hour, increasing minim wage, care workers, security, workers who work pain sick 50 hrs wk

  • @davelou1995
    @davelou1995 Před 23 dny +1

    I’m sorry to say but I cannot think of any quality care provided by the NHS and GP services for many, many years. It is a fact that austerity ripped the guts out of the NHS over the last 14 years but I have to say that in my, my family and friends experience it’s been sh*te for at least 20 odd years. The quality of nursing care is atrocious. I fear we are being moved to a private and unaffordable system but it’s not just money that’s needed, it’s staff that care

  • @DJWESG1
    @DJWESG1 Před 23 dny

    Let me be the person who offers balance..
    There are many potential harold shipmans and lucy letbys out there, more than willong to take a lower wage, they bite their lips and work quietly without even a whimper.. rest your little heads, there is absolutely nothing to worry about.

  • @lamestreammedia3154
    @lamestreammedia3154 Před 23 dny

    Average pay 30K decent pension. Just avoid A&e.

  • @mr.thegreat557
    @mr.thegreat557 Před 23 dny

    Also, who’d want to date a nurse right now?
    I believe they’re all bang at it.

  • @cinemaipswich4636
    @cinemaipswich4636 Před 23 dny

    You could get a third world nurse to attend to you, Minister?