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While every video that Chris and Jordan produce looks like it came together flawlessly, a lot has happened behind the scenes you might not be aware of. It's true: they are a well-oiled machine, but they're not perfect! The duo chats with Jaron about the biggest disasters they've experienced producing their CZcams show over the years and even discuss some problems they had to overcome on very recent episodes.
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In This Episode:
00:00 - Intro
33:33 - Nikon's new named lens, the Plena: petapixel.com/2023/09/26/nikk...
10:21 - CFexpress 4.0's greatest strength is the new card readers: petapixel.com/2023/09/25/test...
13:36 - TTartisan's new 500mm f/6.3: petapixel.com/2023/09/22/ttar...
17:30 - Our greatest disasters while making our CZcams show
47:33 - What have you been up to?
52:18 - Tech support
1:01:40 - Never read the comments - Věda a technologie
You earned a like for this episode if for no other reason than Chris's "Mini Rant" about pronouncing camera brand names. Brilliant! Cheers!
i am young, film cameras haven't existed in my lifetime, and i got into photography when my great grandfather gave me his old bridge camera. i'm autistic, and i liked playing with the camera and learning all the different things it could do. i found focal length really exciting especially; the only cameras i had ever used up to that point were smartphone cameras, so optical zoom was something i had never been exposed to before, and i started playing with it. i liked how i could use it to make pictures look different and try out different aesthetics! and that excitement exploring the ways i could change the look of an image is what got me to learn more.
i mostly learned it on my own, but i started getting books out from the library to learn more about things i didn't understand. like, i figured out that the aperture setting controlled brightness all on my own, but i didn't understand how it worked, or why i would want to use aperture over the shutter and iso settings. most of the books were geared towards students and professionals, and i really hated how those ones were written, cuz i found they dampened my excitement to experiment with things on my own (a lot of those books were written like "do this to do this thing", which was really rigid and limited creative expression), so i still mostly have stuck to learning things entirely on my own, to try and keep me excited about photography.
My grandfather was a hobbyist photographer all the way back to the 1930's, his dark room was in the basement of the house I now live in. When I was a kid he had a Minolta Maxxum 5000 and after he passed away I began to use it out of curiosity. I finally was able to take a photography class in my senior year of high school. After that I got much more serious, and in 2008 I became an M43 shooter on Panasonic, which I am to this day. I grew up on a lake and my love is landscape, night photography, astrophotography, macrophotography, and light painting.
I would love to see y’all bring back wooden nicholls. All these cameras are getting so good and I know it might be difficult getting a crew together, but it would be interesting, and very helpful, seeing how y’all deal with varying sizes of crews with these modern cameras
lol @the thumbnail before I even finish watching 😂
How I got started. Im a 3D artist, and I got a Samsung G9 49" curved monitor. You literally CANT find a good desktop wallpaper at 5120x1440, so I got a Sony A6000 and a Sigma 30MM and started taking photo's for my desktop. I now have a Sony 6700 and a bunch of glass! Plus a massive collection of really nice wallpaper, plus family shots, vacation photo's, a ton of FB likes. All still pure hobby, but its been amazing. Camera's so far. A6000, Canon M6 MkII, went back to Sony for an A6600, and now A6700 with a bunch of Tamron glass. BTW I also run teleprompters and have stories. Just the look of disgust when I tell a camera man I need to put a prompter on his rig is so satisfying.
Any plans to bring back series of unsung cameras of yesteryear?
For the Nikon Zf, they used that screen so you can flip it inward and the back is solid blank textured like a film camera.
That isn't why they did it. That's just a pleasant side effect to the vlogger screen
Man, I've really really been enjoying these podcasts--so, I hope they just keep going on forever haha... Regarding how I got into photography--I was into art from an early age watching Bob Ross, doodling, painting, and although I really never got good (honestly not being humble), it was always there... in late high school I got into making short films with friends (pre YT days) and that was probably the seed that started my interest in camera gear--so video would eventually lead me to photography. In terms of really learning, by the time I got deep into it, my teachers largely became Tony and Chelsea which would then lead to Chris and Jordan. Photography became the tool for me to express myself artistically when I lacked the ability to make my hand do what I wanted on paper. Thanks guys!
This podcast is one of my happy places 😄
I started learning photography when I saw an ad for the X100T in a magazine when I was treeplanting in northern Alberta. I bullied a friend who was going to Edmonton to bring one back for me.
I Really gained momentum when, a few years later, I picked up an XPro3 from the Camera store in Calgary, only to get in a horrific near-death ski accident. I spent my two month recovery on a couch learning everything I could about photography to keep from dying of boredom.
I got into photography because my band needed a music video, so I got a gh5 and practiced for a month before the shoot. Started taking photos to learn the camera better and then photo and video work quickly became much more exciting for me than music. Now I'd say I get more camera work than music work and love it.
I learned mostly from youtube, and then making SO MANY mistakes and learning from them. Trying different diffusers or no diffusers (for flash photography) and just brute forcing it all. And just asking for advice from every photographer I knew before going into a shoot. Love the channel and these podcasts. Keep em coming!
How I got started....I was thrown directly into the fire....I had a Minolta 202 and was the emcee at a Johnny Cash concert. The photog from the show's Publicity firm got stuck in a snowstorm, and Cash's monitor guy told them I had a camera ... so I shot the show - on film - with only 'family photo' type experience. They must have been good enough, because 5 decades later, I'm still shooting major shows.
I love these podcasts - keep them coming!
"Wow - like astrophysics, and then you forget everything" OMG - can so relate to that!! LOL
To Chris' question about how people learn photography ... Growing up I enjoyed taking pictures on film point and shoot cameras. Then as an adult I'd transitioned to digital point and shoots. Then 3 things happened. #1 in 2008 I bought a Pentax K100D, my first DSLR & #2 I took it with me to Seattle and I got hooked on the look of the beautiful 6 megapixel images ;-) compared to digital point and shoots. At this point I was still shooting in JPEG using Full Auto, and did so for several years. Finally #3 I wanted to get "better" and I read Bryan Peterson's book Understanding Exposure. That book opened my eyes to the creative possibilities available to me through photography. I went from taking simple snapshots to purposefully thinking about and composing images. It also lead me to seek out more information, first from blogs and podcasts and eventually to CZcams where I started following Chris and Jordan. I'm so thankful for the work you guys have done making gear reviews entertaining, and now learning more from you through this podcast.
The GFX100 story is hilarious in the context of being frozen out of Fuji samples in the current year. The Japanese seem to love slow vengeance 😅
ha Battle at F Stop Ridge I remember that funny one.
I had the Joy of Photography books, first camera a Kodak 100 then I had an uncle visit from HK and he had a Minolta Maxxum 7000 when they first came out, so naturally my first 'real' camera was a Maxxum 5000. A great thing to learn on as it was so 'automatic'! I think these days CZcams and the fast learning curve (inexpensive as well) of digital can get people past the technical and to the soul of photography faster. Well at least to the door.
That thumbnail😂 ❤
I was first inspired to take up serious photography when I came across books by Ernst Haas and David Douglas Duncan. As to how I learned photography, it was primarily by taking thousands of photos for my high school yearbook, mostly with a Yashica Mat 124. That all-manual experience (usually without even a working light meter) was invaluable for mastering the basics.
My first SLR was a graduation present to myself when I finished my Masters in 1989, a Nikon N6006. The camera store held a free macro workshop, teaching the old "manual w/flash" technique, but they also passed around John Shaw's "Closeups in Nature", which became my bible. I need to dig that volume out tonight and leaf thru it again, I about wore it out!
There is no speed advantage with CFx 4.0 readers and CFx 3.0 cards, at least if you already own an okayish CFx 3.0 reader and somewhat modern Computer with USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 (have to love that name...). USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 was announced back in 2017 and is more and more common since at least 2020. CFx readers are also available from many brands (including Angelbird, Lexar or Transcend).
The only obstacle is, as always, Apple. But if you are looking for high transfer speeds, MacOS isn't the way to go anyway^^
What is even more important: Find the right reader for your CFexpress card. We review CFx cards and readers on a regular basis and the standard is so f... bad, you can take the fastest card and fastest reader available, combined they are half as fast as they should be.
Respect to Chris for rockin' the Patlabor T-Shirt.
I like number 1 but number 2 is a straight up masterpiece. When Goto has a conversation with the Mole about the nature of peace and war and it plays over just stunning composition after stunning composition. The art work is stellar
My father gave me a Pentax ME when I was 10 - he showed me the basics of film photography. I later picked photography as my medium for high school Art (I believe I was using a Nikon FM2 at the time) and I learnt how to develop my own work.
It was then a combination of self-taught moments and whatever photography magazines I could afford. My first digital was a Canon 10D!
I still have the Nikon Coolpix 990, where the lens section of the camera rotates. It was my first digital camera. Since the, I have shot with the D200, D300, D810, D850, Z7II, and now the Z8 (still have the Z7II).
Thanks so much for sharing another wonderful video like always 🤗👍
We definitely need the "Rear Windcow" remake as a Wooden Niccolls episode. I think the Nikon Z8 would be an excellent candidate. Or perhaps the Lumix G9 II in autofocus!
Sound is great this time 💪 And the content as well, of course 😊
You guys have swiftly become my favorite podcast. If you're ever going out in Calgary for a photo walk or need an extra body for any content, I'd swoon at the chance 😉
A lot of what I learned is from you guys!
The filter situation would be completely solved if 4-6 stop nds we’re just included in bodies… One of the few things that would get me to upgrade day 1 from my xpro 2 to an xpro 4 would be if it includes an nd filter. I just don’t understand why it’s been a thing on very few cameras. For me, every camera I’ve used with one it has been something I’ve used extensively.
The biggest two mechanical issues was my buddy got my monopod stuck in the 1/4 20 port in the bottom of the camera, had to unscrew the damn camera, the college we borrowed it from were not happy.
The other one was we were using a DV tape deck to record a broadcast of a game, and it literally jammed up and melted the tape. lol. (I been doing this too long!)
Loved this
Great podcast. On the issue of camera design I wish the Yashica Samurai was a digital camera. I thought the design was a little out there at the time as well some Minolta Dimage cameras that for their time looked futuristic.
My uncle was a photographer. He had a darkroom in our house and I learned at 8 to use it. I also Had the 12 Volume Life Library of Photography
My dad was a serious amateur shooting Leica and I learned a few basics from him and learned some darkroom basics in shop class. Bought my first slr, a Pentax ME super (Yes Chris I wanted a Nikon FE 2. Couldn’t afford it though). Now I’m an Olympus shooter.
Back in the day, Vivatar sold a 400mm f6.3 for $200.00. It was always advertised in the back of photo magazines. I have one in Pentax mount. I hope the TTartisans version is better.
Air shows were my first way into photography. Self studied the skill through websites, some books and CZcamsrs like yourselves, tony Northrop, DPReview, OG Kai Wong, and Jared Polin (Fro). This was around 2013/2014
Great podcast! The Joy of Photography book brought back memories. I bought that book a long time ago. It is what jump started my interest in photography before I even had a camera.
The talk on pronunciation of some cameras was interesting. In Australia it’s pronounced “ZED.” There is a photographer (Matt Irwin) who wears a shirt with “CANIKONY” on it.
I'll miss that San Fransisco aireal shot in Jarons shot, but thats a real nice set up back there. Good studio, and congrats on the move!
Love this episode 🙂Started shooting on a beautiful black Nikon FE as well 🙂...wish I knew how to get one repaired...do people still repair/cla film cameras? Stopped using it when I started acquiring other cameras...now I can't get the leaver or shutter to advance 😞 Hate that I did that...on a positive note...the Light meter still works 🙂 Guess that is my biggest mistake...retiring a great looking camera/body that now needs surgery 😞
Star Tracker - Move Shoot Move is great.
My worst disaster was when I almost hit the president of Cyprus with a lens. At some point of my military service, I was asked to be the camp’s photographer for a very high-profile event. We had my country’s president, politicians, the chief of staff, and lots of top brass from NATO and other UN peacekeeping forces.
The day started with someone hitting my lens with some metal window blinds. Thankfully, the plastic hood did its jobs and got not a single scratch on the lens. All good I thought; disaster averted. *sigh* I was not prepared for what followed.
Eventually, the event started and I was getting all the shots I wanted so I got cocky and decided to try some different angles. You know, get a shot or two of the president’s back with the people standing in front of him or of him with the honor guard standing nearby.
I climbed on the platform that the president was giving his speech from and….I slipped. I regained my balance very fast and landed on my two feet. However, I had my bag unzipped and as I was landing, the bag moved and my Olympus 4/3 50-200mm flew off the bag! It went right in front of the president’s face and landed in a bush next to him. I can still picture the scene in slow motion when I close my eyes. I turned white. The president did not flitch and continued looking down on the podium where he had his printed speech script -I am not even sure if he even realized what just happened. I quickly turned around. Most people on the front rows were with their eyes half closed as they were facing the sun! At the corner though, there was a brigadier general who was looking at me fuming. He was biting his lips and his face had written “you are fucked” all over it. As soon as the president finished his speech, one of the president’s security guards handed me my badly damaged-but operational-lens and told me: be glad that it was clearly an accident and none got hit. Still, avoid general X, he did not seem happy.” I spent the rest of the day making myself busy taking photos or chatting with everyone else. Whenever he was coming towards me during the social after, I would move myself to the other side of the event space!
😂 Thankfully, the photos turned out fine and the camp’s commander was happy!
Hey there. I am Satoru and 100% Japanese!haha I just wanna throw in my brutally honest opinion about how Nikon and Canon should be pronounced outside Japan. Truth to be told, a majority of the Japanese do not give a flying damn about that! Some people just want to get chichi and nit-picky! The Japanese language uses a lot of borrowed words, and if Nikon and Canon had to be pronounced precisely in the same way as the Japanese do, we Japanese people also had to start pronouncing the borrowed words such as a remote for a television (we pronounce it like "Rimokon")! Do not care about those pretentious people out there, keep up your excellent work !
Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson was mind blowing once I realized I wanted to do more than blurry shots of my kid.
Brilliant and hilarious. Hats off to Jaron,! Those guys are worth every penny of the insurance fee !! 😀
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Great episodes!!, I dreamt many years ago (sine I was a teen) to have a camera. 20 years later ago I took a long trip and that was my opportunity to buy a camera (film of course). My first cam was Nikon F100 with Tamron 24-70 and 70-300. Ive read many articles and books about photography, with that and self-criticism ...slowly, slowly Ive made progress. since then I've upgraded my camera and lenses.
Tech support question for Jordan; I have a Fujifilm XT3 and I'm looking for a good lens to start doing video. I already have the 16-80mm f/4; would that serve? What would you look at on a tight budget, say up to Australian $1000 - that's about 6 bucks US (actually around $650 US).
I've learned more about bodily functions from this one episode than I have from any other photography podcast ever in the history of photography podcasts...
Since I'm doing a road trip this winter from LA to SF, I'll make sure to stop by Sushi Heaven. Thank you for the recommendation!!!
It's "Pleh-nah"
24mm F1.2 with Quad-XD Linear Motors. Not spending another dime on camera gear until there is a 24mm Prime made for the Sony A1. 24GM is compromised on the A1 due to the old motors and it is unable to keep up in burst mode
39:30 ah the GFX100 story clearly explains why it took Fuji so long to send the XS-20, to make sure they were the last ones to get the review copy of it!
It'd be cool how Jordan would shoot Chris doing astrophotography, given how dark it'd be. Would he finally have a use for the Noct?
Way to go Chris!!!
A comment and a question, comment: I'm enjoying the podcasts, including the format, you guys keep it fun and interesting, thanks! Question, are you going to review the Viltrox 16mm F1.8, preferably in E-Mount? Would be curious to know how well this thing performs optically compared to the very limited options out there, and how well it integrates into the Sony eco system, meaning, if all the features work well, like Eye A/F, CAF, on my RV for example, heh. The price makes it seem almost to good to be true... (If you already reviewed it, color me embarrassed and point me in the right direction, heh).
Tech support question: Is there a future for crop sized sensors like micro 4/3 or APS-C? Or will everything eventually go full frame and beyond? For example, will Fujifilm keep going APS-C for their X-T line camera's and increase resolution, or will they eventually go to FF (or their MF sensors) because of physical limitations?
For anyone criticising flip out screens try shooting low on a tripod in portrait mode...
I'm a 70+YO amateur who loves to take pictures, not videos. And that's part of my problem. I went with the Sony A7 series early on because there were adaptors available so I could use some of my old Minolta lenses from the 70s (ie 16mm, 50mm macro). And I love my current A7RII and A7RIV. BUT I did not get a A7RV because there was no increase in resolution. I love what they've done with AI and processing in the camera but its not worth $4k to me. I want an A7RVI with 100 mp sensor and stop giving me all those video features that I don't understand and am not interested in anyway. In the end, I think I'm a lost cause because the competition and market seems to be driving video forward. But I liked it when a camera model was good for 5-10 years and the new release of a new camera was so one could take better "pictures".
Thanks guys for your years of great product reviews.
How did I start? I learnt from the manuals that came with the Russian camera and enlarger that I bought as I couldn’t afford any books on the subject. I started developing colour at twelve years old because I didn’t know it was difficult and developed the first photo that I took.
I didn’t get attracted to the Nikon FE Nikon but later I moved to a Contax RTS and 50mm Planar. I had a red B+W filter that got stuck on it and I shot the next ten years of photos with a red filter because I couldn’t get it off and couldn’t afford the bill from the camera shop to remove it!
Jaron, you mentioned getting the edits on the podcast done same day. Are you doing it manually or using Autopod or something similar?
What a pristine performance pertaining to PetaPixel's premier podcast.
In my work, I despise the variangle screen. It's just a lot slower, and I miss far more shots when I use a camera with one.
when i started photography, I learned on flickr and then on youtube.
Flash card speeds are not measured in Bits, instead it's Byte/s --> so cards are at 2000 MegaByte/s and not 2000 MegaBit/s. Bit/s are still used for bandwidth speed of Internet connection ... I guess to make it sound fast.
Yup, you're right. it's Bytes. I misspoke. Apologies, it was cranking at megaBYTES per second. -Jaron
Shout out to Alicia(?) as I was thinking pretty much the same thing coming off the last episode. While I'm personally someone who likes the look of the "DSLR" camera style, I find it funny that every time anyone talks about a "good looking" "stylish" "sexy" etc. camera they're pretty much always talking about something with a retro style, as if a camera can't look "good" unless it's deliberately retro styled. And while there is truth to the idea that camera companies are (understandably) risk averse design wise, is it any wonder they act in that way when the only cameras that anyone calls out as being attractive are retro cameras? It's a little like shouting from the rooftops that only vanilla ice cream is good and then wondering why no one makes chocolate any more.
I've been into photography since I was a kid, but what sets my journey apart is my nearsightedness. I started by using my smartphone and a Canon 1100D to capture the things I couldn't see clearly. It's amazing how photography has allowed me to appreciate the world in a whole new way.
Tech support: Why is the focal length limitation e.g. 3m to infinity lock a feature of the lens rather than done in software in the camera body? Even if the camera body can’t tell the focal distance exactly, wouldn’t it be possible to have a way to remember a focus point and prevent the autofocus going past that point? Are there cameras that have this already? (Sony user) - even stuff like remembering focal points feels like it should be more commonplace & just a software feature perhaps. thanks for the podcasts!
You should say Nikon as Paul Simon says it in the Kodachrome... Wish Kodachrome was still around. I agree with Chris, real photography just wants to survive in the face of a phone juggernaut. 120 Kodachrome was really wonderful...
Can someone please link what they’re talking about… the whole Wooden Nicholls thing? Thanks!
czcams.com/video/gPTCrXbIbh4/video.htmlsi=wY4QDOdRcNU115Un
I loved my Nikon 990 and 995
omg its plena dude
Japanese must be similar to Welsh. They pronounce Nikon and Canon like the Welsh do. It is quite true that these companies want the regional differences that make it easy to recognise the ‘brand’ in that area. The US is an outlier with its ‘Zee’ but it is correct in the USA so who cares!
tt artisan 500mm lens review would go hard especially with your ideas
Jesus... just figured out what the thumbnail represents...laughing my butt off.
I think the TTArtisans lens would be good for backyard birders who have a reliable perch.
Funny thumbnail. Is Jordan going to be "sacrificed" on some cold north Atlantic eve?
Thank you for clarifying that a noct is 2kg. Everyone South of your border has been going, "Huh?" for years.
Oh, Boy!! A disaster movie!!!
and don't forget the Voigtlander (VfochtLandtter) :)
The Tokyo skytree tale. That made my butt clench.
As long as you put an small caption saying that 1 nockt = 2kg and 1 plena = 1k I am all for it.
Third!
Hello Chris, Jordan, and Jaren, I'm having some difficulty accepting the fact that you claim to own and operate an OM-1 camera. It's challenging for me to maintain a sense of impartiality towards OM Systems when you're sponsored by them. I've been a longtime follower of your work across various platforms, and I'm curious about why your preferred camera choice is an MFT sensor with 20 megapixels when the photography industry as a whole has shifted towards APS-C and full-frame systems
At 1:12:30, the "corrected" Japanese is also wrong, pretty much just as wrong as the usual American pronunciation - in Japanese it's spelled キヤノン、 to be pronounced キャノン、 i.e. Kyanon (Kabushikigaisha), with a consonantal y, as in "yes," even if it's very short. (All it takes is a look at the Japanese Wikipedia page to confirm it, even if you haven't been to Japan). Not that it matters, because that's in Japanese, not English.
In some other languages, Nikon is pronounced just like in Japanese, it's just that native English speakers have issues figuring out when to pronounce "i" as a proper short i-sound, when to pronounce it "ai," and when to pronounce it as something completely different. So it became Naikon in English. No big deal, languages evolve, spelling becomes confusing.
Incidentally that "kya" bit is very often used in Japanese to spell English words beginning with "ca" or "cha," presumably in an attempt to reproduce a more English sound, so most likely the original intent of the Japanese name for Canon, was to make it sound more English... Especially considering they adopted the name "Canon" in international markets both for its similarity to the older brand name Kwanon (Kannon, the goddess of mercy) and as a reference to the European word "canon," i.e. "norm," "standard." *before* they changed to the corresponding name in Japanese. Unlike Nikon, which is a contraction of Japanese words, the brand name "Canon" originates as an English/European word.
They're still making the 'Joy of Photography' books, huh? I have my copy of the first one.
I doubt it. My copies are truly vintage. Probably as old as I am
I learned photography through youtube.
Haha, great pronunciation rant
A company for profit will (most likely) not tell off any customer because they pronounce the brand name incorrectly.
However, it should be at least a bit close to the original, when you loan a word from a different place/language. At least try "neekon", if Japanese pitched accent is too much.
As a Spanish speaker, I cringe at the US pronunciation of some of the common words in Spanish that have permeated the US culture, and I wished the anglophone world would put just a bit more effort in it.
Second.
Nikon KeyMission 170 sensor was just too small...
I still always get a little aneurysm when people say Leyka or Porsch
"It's not Porsh! It's Porshah!" Ok. Next time you say Mazda I'm going to yell at you to not say "Mazda!. It's Matsuda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Hate that shit! Also, The tilty-flippy screens are awesome! More cameras should have them. Nay, ALLLLLL CAMERAS SHOULD HAVE THEM. 😉
12k is the new rage these days.. every kid their dog now shoot only in 12k 422 prores raw
When you’re taking weight, I’d prefer pounds and ounces over “Noct”, or “Plena” 😂
Force the Nikon make nikon z50 ii jooooorrrrdan 😊
I'd say 'I've been to Paris'. If I said 'I've been to Pareeee' with 'Pareeee' in a French accent I'd sound like a pretentious twat. We localise language. (And if we have to pronounce things like they do in the parent country, what regional accent should we use? Is it 'Lon-don' or 'Laaahn dun' as your cockneys would say.)
Last!
om systems realy wants to take yoy off hands from Panasonic