⚠️ REMOVE the “C0” LABEL and DECLASSIFY your drone NOW, or?! Removing 120 m limit.
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- čas přidán 31. 10. 2023
- This is important, especially for European drone pilots.
Drones like the DJI Mini 4 Pro are classified according to the C0 to C4 classification. Remove the C0 classification from your DJI Mini 4 Pro so you can fly above the 120 m limit. When you have removed the C0 classification your drone can fly up to 500 meters from the start point.
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Great info thanks! - I just completed mine with the RC N2. For those of you out there who have this - A tip - take the 2 required photos of your drone first - before starting the process.
Hello, I am abit worried because my drone is arriving on the 28th of December, is the process all instantaneous or does the verification take a while? Many thanks.
Thanks for the info, DONE on my DJI Mini 4Pro
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I have just bought the mini4 pro. I still have the sticker on the bottom and also registered with the British CAA and done courses. Now have both operator and flyer registration. Watching this video I went and looked at mine and see that I could strait away go to maximum height of 500m
My only concern and I havent found an answer for is if I would need to take the pilots test or is it just the same as the regulations for the under 250g where I need to register, since I have the mini 4 pro and it has a camera? I am in Portugal FYI.
Can you have a video of how heavy the DJI mini 4 pro can be and how much it can carry or how far 1:54 😊
Hi thanks a lot for your vids ! I had a very important and specific question: what are the real risks of declassifying my mini 4 pro (bought after 2024) to upgrade the hight limite to 500m ? Will I lose some privileges I had with the C0 ? Since I live close to mountains it’s very important. I searched a long time but couldn’t find anything specific to that.
Thanks again
I purchased my mini 4 pro 9days ago 20th Dec , but it does have the "0" label I updated the firmware and the drone has no height restriction, set height at 500M and it's holding there after shutting down and returning to it a few days later. No option on the N2 to remove restriction of height even if it I take the height limit below 120 and reboot. I live in a cliff/hills/mountainous location so this is a big deal for me. Even as I type this I updated the firmware and still no restriction. Should I remove the "0" label?
Is there any downside of not having the C0 classification, for example if i want to fly in the city, will there be any problem for not having the C0 classification?
Hello,when i've scanned the QR code in the Risk Reminder below point two( For removal of the CO label before December31.2023...) was missing..So now if you remove CO label you will be no longer allowed to fly it in A1 enviroments...It"s a bit disappointing, i thought i have 2 more days to declassify my Mini4 Pro :(
You are correct, the statements on the blog are moslty wrong, but the main concept is correct.
Ther real problem (and DJI is not mentioning it explicitly) is that if you crash your de-classified drone AFTER 2023, the one you will receive from care refresh will be irrimediably locked.
This is very bad and has no correspondance (as you mentioned) to any European regulation.
Hopefully they will acknowledge it and provide a solution.
However with Drone Tweaks app on Android and iOS u're totally free from DJI geofencing mechanism for that though ❤️🙏😂
Very true UK rules are 120m above ground, not take-off point so if going over a hill 50m higher then you will be 170m above take-off but only 120m above the ground
Thanks for understanding the rules. Even after my extra explainer video it seems to be hard to understand the reason why you should declassify your
hello i declassified the drone and everything worked great. But unfortunately it met with an accident and I will send it for replacement by care refresh. the new drone will arrive after 1.1.24. Will I be able to declassify it after replacing the old one and it was not actually purchased after 1.1.24?
This seems to me to be a crazy suggestion. Swapping your drone from C0 to C1 surely removes all the benefits of being lighter than 250g. Such as ability to fly over buildings, close to people, etc etc. Isn’t this why you bought a mini ?
Exactly so don’t do this with the intention to re-classify it! Do this to make it unclassified so it can fly under the legacy rules I was very particular about explaining. A drone out on the market before December 31 2023 don’t need a Cx certification.
if i riead point 3 right, u can forget to declassify the mini 4 pro, as it is then after 1st of janauary only to be allowed to be flown in the specific category, which would be a nightmare - given waht u need for a specific category.
I’m so glad I watched this because I would have never known about the Max Altitude setting that was taking into effect. I registered my mini 4 with the FAA and got a serial # because I have the bigger batteries, but I didn’t realize even in the US I was restricted to just 395ft! Now it’s all the way to 1640ft. Thanks for the video.
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So you were able to do those from US?
@@realMysta yes, it was completely by accident when I came across this video. We’ll put it to the test this weekend in the CO Mountains.
@@lalojr76ify interesting, i got a mini 4 pro but im hesitant to open if i lose that functionality then i may as well get the air 3
@@realMysta I like the compact size of the Mini 4 Pro and still had to register it because of the bigger batteries. If I had to do it again I would probably have purchased the air 3 if I had the money. Glad that DJI came out with the new firmware updates for the Mini 4 recently.
What about in Australia? I have gone above 120 meters without de classification. I haven't pushed it any higher than 150 Meters
Hi, today i got my answer about the C0 label 😊, ty Mats keep up the good work//Tomas
Amazing!!! Success! 😃👍
I did not remove the batteri,it worked fine for me too 😊
@user-ug9dr9bz8d thanks for sharing!! 😃👍
I really do not understand the reason to remove the c0 label, is it just because of hight restriction lock? I just bought a new dji mini 3 that had no label. There is no requirement for label to fly in A1 when drone is less than 250g and below speed 19 m/s. However all newer types of drones will have C label from 2024.
So if you declassify your drone before the 31st. Does that mean it can only be flown a3 air space?
Oops I didn’t scan qr code or send pics in , I just clicked continue and have max 500 m !!!! Do I need to re apply some how ?
Hi there!
I didn't have a 120 m limit on my DJI Mini 4 Pro right out of the box.
By default the max altitude was set to 120 m, but this could be increased up to 500 m without any declassification procedure.
Purchased in Lithuania (EU).
Anyway thanks for sharing, Mats! Your videos are really helpful!
Same for me. I live in the Netherlands. But I think when we do a firmware update this will also happen to our drones. So I wonder: what happens when we don’t update?
Thank you 😊
It’s probably because you haven’t installed the update that was released some days ago.
P.S. Just checked the latest firmware.
Indeed, the new version V02.00.0100 "fixes the issue of ineffective 120 m flight altitude limit in the EU and adds support to apply for flight limit altitude above 120 m".
I always keep my devices on the latest firmware, so I just got rid of the 120 meter limit as Mats suggested. Right after this I pushed the limit to the 500 m, but it immediately went back to 120 m. I had to reboot the drone and controller to get it to work. Now everything is fine and can be set to up to 500 m.
I probably wouldn't fly above 120 meters, but I'd like to have a reserve just in case.
Hi do you neede a new sticker on your drone now I remove the c0 sticker 😊
@koosgroot-te1ji when you have declassified your drone you don’t need any stickers. Just because it’s done before December 31st 2023.
It's possible to do the same with remote control without screen + phone?
The Mini 4 can be heavier than 250g with the extended battery which can make it qualify as a C1 Drone.
What if i don’t update the drone? Is it remaining the same? With the possibility to fly over 120m up to 500m?
Hi, so you are saying if we live in the States, we can't declassify our drones unless we're in Europe?
I thought it was 120m from the nearest point of the surface. Here is. An extract from EASA guidance.
you need to keep the drone within 120 m of the closest point of the terrain. This means that there may be conditions such as on top of a hill where even if you keep your drone 120 m from the side of the hill, you are actually flying at a distance higher than 120 m above the bottom of the valley. So as long as you keep your drone within 120 m of the shoulder of the hill your flight is legal.
Hi, @MK-Creator! Thanks for a well made declassify information video on the DJI Mini 4 Pro.
Regarding your comment starting at 1:37 mentioning that the Mini 4 Pro equipment need to be in a EU country to do the 120m "C0" remove/declassify action. As you mention Norway in your video, the situation is a bit different now late December 2023. With the current firmware for the DJI Mini 4 Pro as of December 2023 (i.e. like RC Firmware 02.00.0300 for the RC2, Aircraft firmware 01.00.0300 for the Mini 4 Pro) a Mini 4 Pro purchased in Norway prior to January 1st 2024 can be declassified sitting in Norway and also probably anywhere else in the world. As Norway is a EASA member, the EASA rules applies. I.e., one does not need to be in a EU country in order to perform the (EASA "C0") declassify action, the availability is dependant on installed firmware version in your drone, remote control and/or app. At least with the RC2 remote control, the URL resource given by said DJI QR-code isn't given without a firmware that allows it. Though, when available, the given URL contains the Mini 4 Pro serial number (SN) and once the URL is known, the "C0" remove/declassify action with image upload and so on can be performed with most commercial web browsers (at least, Google Chrome). Mind you; as the URL contains the drone SN, the usage is registered by DJI once completed and can only be performed once per URL. 🙂
Ref.: czcams.com/video/IzksHI5xE6M/video.html
Hi I had a question since I live in Switzerland and you seem to know quiet a lot 😅:
I had a very important and specific question: what are the real risks of declassifying my mini 4 pro (bought after 2024) to upgrade the hight limite to 500m ? Will I lose some privileges I had with the C0 ? Since I live close to mountains it’s very important. I searched a long time but couldn’t find anything specific to that.
Thanks again
@@alexispelz5954 Hi and thanks for asking! Though, with a great risk for giving an answer that is not correct for you, and your drone operations I will try. What comes first is that you are the one responsible for your drone operations and flying equipment. The short answer then is "yes", you loose what you understand and name as the C0 rights. But if nothing else than height/ altitude restriction is altered or modified with the Mini 4 Pro (not payload, not air speed etc.) you have a sub 250 gram legacy drone. In Europe, under EASA regulations in EASA membership countries, we can as such since December 31st 2023 operate a true 249g Mini 4 Pro with removed C0 label in A1. This is per description of legacy drones sub 250 gram in EASA regulations today (date April 1st, 2024). The sub 250 gram legacy A1 requirement still is 120m altitude, but also max air speed of 19m/s (Mini 4 Pro max air speed is 16m/s). I.e., we need to follow local country legislation and for most cases pass an online drone operator exam for A1/A3 in order to operate a sub 250 gram legacy drone. Get your diploma, mark the drone visually with operator ID and so on.
The long answer:
First and foremost, it is your responsibility as a drone pilot in Switzerland to research what applies to you and your drone operations on the specific location you intend to perform drone flight. When it comes to "risk", I think it is a strong word to use. I'd rather think one should discuss "consequence" of action. But again, this is pure semantics. For DJI drones, DJI do what they can for their drones to work and be operated in the various and different legislation areas of the world. First and foremost we here in Europe are subject to legislation in the operation country and then several country specific layers of local regulations and law. I assume you already have required understanding for that situation. Then, we have the situation for Europe and overall legislation. Since both Switzerland and Norway are EASA members per April 1st 2024, the EU regulations applies to drone operations in both of our countries. Having all before mentioned in mind and as I see it, the logical consequence of removing the 120m altitude limitation on a DJI Mini 4 Pro will take it out of C0 classification with immediate effect once the de-restricted software is loaded on the then altitude de-restricted drone. Hence, a requirement from DJI is to remove the C0 classification sticker from the Mini 4 Pro drone body is set forth. You then have a unmarked drone, which today for the Mini 4 Pro is to be recognized as a sub 250g "legacy drone" since December 31st 2023. As such, it can be operated in A1 with a simple online exam for A1/A3 operators. That being said, DJI has early 2024 given the possibility to re-classify the Mini 4 Pro as C1. But, in order to fully comply with C1 the drone in question must per December 31st 2023 have active "remote ID". Until recently, the "remote ID" requirement for C1 has had to be realized as some add-on equipment on the European Mini 4 Pro. As any add-on payload also will increase the Mini 4 Pro weight above 250 gram it looses some benefits even in C1. The Mini 4 Pro has the required remote ID hardware on board even for units sold in Europe, but the altitude de-restricting firmware/ software given in its first iteration didn't activate the remote ID. DJI has recognized this situation and have by March 2023 made it possible to apply for C1 remote ID activated firmware/software (version 02.00.0510). In the DJI Fly app you can apply for the C1 label and upon documentation then apply for and receive the firmware / software that activates remote ID on the European 249g Mini 4 Pro.
@TECHDRONEMEDIA/ Henrik Olsen discusses C1 labeling of the Mini 4 Pro in some of his CZcams videos:
czcams.com/video/1rG1tmcnByU/video.html
czcams.com/video/aJsKaKU2Zrg/video.html
Get your C1 label for the Mini 4 Pro at DJI:
support.dji.com/help/content?customId=en-us03400009941&spaceId=34&re=DK&lang=en
There is also a number of other web resources discussing the C1 re-labeling of the Mini 4 Pro at this time (March/April 2024). The interest appears to be particular in Germany right now. As I understand it, Mini 4 Pros sold in Switzerland today (March 2024) also come with the C1 labels in the box, ready for the owner to apply to the drone and take actions with DJI for firmware.
So, what is the "win" in de-restricting a Mini 4 Pro from the 120m limit? Most likely the uphill/downhill flight scenario, where height difference in terrain and constructions can exceed 120m and represent a challenge in drone operation. A major part of the problem/ challenge regarding DJI drones is how DJI interpret legislation and regulatory requirements, and then how DJI tries to implement it into functionality in their consumer drones. As most DJI consumer drones record "height" at takeoff, the 120m height requirement is fine in flat landscape. But in our case, Switzerland and Norway, we have hills, steep cliffs and mountains where the 120m requirement doesn't make sense as a per flight fixed point recording. Any figure or illustration accompanying the 120m restriction requirement indicates it as a continous flight requirement that can follow the landscape contour and shape (i.e, "the drone over a tall castle on top of a cliff" problem). As it is us, the drone pilots who are responsible for our operations, it doesn't make sense to have a drone that is restricted by the height or level the drone was at as drone take off point. Flying out from a mountain side or steep cliff, the height difference the drone sensor then measures can go from a few meters to several hundred meters in just some meters of level flight. I don't know what action a 120m restricted Mini 4 Pro will perform by autonomous programmatic control in a scenario like that, but I assume that it will try to maintain the programmed max 120 meter height restriction. If the autonomous move will be either air brake, hover, return to home, land or other action to maintain max 120m remains to be experienced for my part. Also, remember that manned flight can be as low as 150m above ground or water according to EASA visual fligth rules (VFR), so the 120m requirement gives a 30m safety margin for drone operation vs manned flight.
@@bjornonwheels thanks a lot for all theses informations! So if I take away my C0 label and make the change to my mini 4 pro, I will still be able to fly in A1 without an online class or will I have to take it. I’m still not very clear on the situation of when I’ll take the C0 label off. Do I have to pass the online exam A1 to be able to fly it in my village or in Switzerland or can I just make the 500m change and it doesn’t changes anything expect I loose my C0 label which makes my drone “just” fly higher. Why do I need my C0 label? Insurance (local shop insurance) if it breaks? Thanks for clarifying the first part even though I’m a little unclear to this specific situation: what is it bad to take off my C0 label. Thank you very much 🙏
If we open the 500 meter limit, can't we benefit from DJ care insurance? Is this being cancelled?
Hey! Do the rc2 need to be connected to wifi/iphone lte? To request/confirm the 500m update? Just bought the pro 4 😊
You can scan it with your phone and you can upload the photo's from the phone not from the rc2
Thanks for this great video. I initially feared that removing this label would restrict the use or entry in EU countries.
PS. I also thought DJI wanted a picture with battery removed to see the barcode of the drone. Would seem logical so people don’t use same picture over and over again. Ah well! If it worked, great news. Seems DJI is caught in red tape on this process. Cheers.
If I got it right imported DJI Mini 4 Pro from US has also class 0 sticker and if I want to operate it in EU it has to be declassified prior to year end, correct?
No. There is definitely no NEED to. It just unlocks +120 meters. So if you have no intention to hike a mountain or fly higher than than 120 meters above the take off point… then just keep it.
Hi, On my RC2 I haven't the "Request a higher alitude limit", is it because I live in Australia.
Hi,
Yes most likely. As I mentioned in the video. You need to be in a EU country to be able to unregister the drone from the C0.
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If I now change my max altitude to > 120 and then agree: It jumps back to 120 just as in your video. This was immediately after uploading the images...maybe I have to wait for the review process first.
How they check if you are in the EU at the moment of decalcification? Or the drone should be just bought in the EU?
If i apply now for c1 how high can i fly?
Thanks for Your work, and Your patience to keep on struggling in this swamp.
One side question is. How many Mini 4 pros have been sold and how many Mini 3 pros? Now and then it sounds like the Mini 3 pros might be affected, sold before C0 marking or later, one way or the other.
Take look at this recently recorded video and look to the left during the first half of it. All controller data are there. Link: czcams.com/video/DWRCixQHitA/video.html
I have a DJI Mini 4 Pro and I have A1/A3 qualifications. If I remove the sticker, will I also be able to fly in the city without any obstacles? what are the advantages of having c0?
none
nice
Indeed
The main question for me: if I declassify the drone, do I have to enter my registration number in 2024 like on the Air 3, so that the number is permanently submitted during flight? That would be no option for me that every flight would be regarded an recorded by authority
No, because this drone is under 249 gram.
i bought my mini 4 pro before christmas last year. but I was still able to declassify mine just this week.
Thanks for letting us know! 🤩👍
hey! how did you declassify the drone? I bought a mini 4 just now and don't find the option to do it :/
I'm from Brazil, but I intend to travel to Europe and fly my drone, can I do this procedure from here? TY.
Hi, 👋
As far as I have discovered you need to be in an easa country to have the option.
You mention Norway and Iceland. This applies to both of these countries as well.
It applies for all EASA member countries : EU countries, as well as Iceland, Norway, Liechtenstein and Switzerland
Thanks for sharing this valuable info and to make this community even better!
You are of course correct. All the member countries are listed here:
www.easa.europa.eu/en/light/topics/easa-member-states
hey hey😊, You forgot to take out the battery to take a photo so that you can see the serial number. I already declassified my mini 4pro😊
Well it worked apparently great even without doing that….
@@MK-Creator Now that is a surprise. Looks like the left hand does not know what the right one is doing. Where have we seen this before?
What are you referring to? 🤔
Hi. I have a mini 3 pro and thta never had any c-class sticker on it, if i understand it correctly it is classified as an C0? It didnt have the altitude restriction in the rc at firs but after the last update it now has the 120m limit. I new to drones and are still learning.
The DJI mini 3 pro is unclassified = no sticker. It’s a legacy model that is in the A1 sub category.
@@MK-Creator why did it get the restriction in the RC? Can I apply to remove it with out it even being a C0 in the först place? Thank you for conten btw
@HellSpawn8484 those are all great questions…I m trying to figure this out myself. It just doesn’t make any sense at all. And it doesn’t make any sense that the mini 4 pro should be able not have the limit. It’s still 120 meters… it’s so many unanswered questions here. But I’m trying to find correct answers…
@@MK-Creator I will pole around a bit in the settings and se if I find out anything more about it, there was another update again I noticed today, also I don't have the pro RC.
Do you mean you no longer have the slider in the settings where you can move the limit up to 500 m?
Thanks man :) CAn u tell us what will happend to mini 3 pro? Cause no C0 lebel on it.
The mini 3 is not classified so it’s a legacy drone the same as a declassified mini 4 pro.
Thanks man!!@@MK-Creator
Thanks for the heads up! I completely understand and think you did a very good job explaining it. It probably helped me understand it even better because I experienced what you’re pointing out in Iceland while filming waterfalls. At first I couldn’t understand why I was getting warnings of operating too high. I was walking up the falls while filming and was never very high AGL but had walked up the falls several hundred feet from where I launched from. Not sure why some don’t understand what you’re explaining, especially with the graphics you use to explain it. I think some just choose to believe you’re trying to show a way to break height restrictions when you’re absolutely not. Really enjoy all of your videos and they have really helped me be a better drone pilot and get amazing footage all over the world. I’m a 24,000 hour helicopter pilot and now always take my drone with me while traveling for work. Luckily for me I’ll be heading to the EU/EASA regions before the end of the year and will be doing the mod. And for some who are misunderstanding, the point of the mod, I’m not doing it to be able to break rules on height restrictions!!!
@PilotMuse thank you so much for sharing all of that! I really appreciate it.
And thank you so much for those kind words also.
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Are there any irreversible downsides to declassifying the mini 4 pro?
Well that’s exactly what my intention was to cover. 😂
As far as I can understand, no. Philip Bloom came to the same conclusion.
but you should mention that with declassification and reclassification to a c1-drone there comes also the disadvantage of being not able to fly over people anymore. so with losing the c0-class you also have to worry about a few things more afterwards that originally were benefits.
Hi, I'm new to mini 4 pro. And I can't see any requests higher altitude limit on my Rc2 remote controller. So how can I can confirm that 120m was removed and I can fly up to 500m instead. Thanks, hope to hear from you soon.
Cheers Danny
If you go into the settings and flight altitude limit. If you can push that one up to 500 m than its the fact.
@@MK-Creator yes. I can push it to 500m with not show any requests higher altitude limit at all. And I never do anything with my Drone before. No any distriction at all
@dannychuah9327 hmm. Are you currently located in an EASA country?
@@MK-Creator im currently at Southampton UK
I think that you confuse ground level with sea level.
Ground level is where you stand momentarily sea level is 0.
What about cities that are high altitude?
Hi. The take off point is from where the drone is measuring its current height. If you were to be able to take off from the top of Mount Everest that would be 0.
thanks. remove battery before the photos.
Questionable if it is / was needed…
I think you could be advising people wrong here. My understanding if you remove the sticker and request for a higher limit, granted it does take that limit away, but you can then not fly it in the open category. You’d be classed as the c1 cat for drones under 900g
Hi, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. Luckily you are actually incorrect.
I will release a full video in some hours where I go through everything about the categories A1, A2 and A3 as well as C0, C1 and unclassified / declassified drones.
Keep tuned in! 🫡👍
I just use an old trick I got from no limit drones a decade ago and remove the height limit completely. With the expanded battery u can get the mini 4 pro to 6600m before you have to come down 😂
Enlighten us. How does this work
@@nozer88 that guy is only creating publicity for an obscure site.
There is no hack form M4P at the moment.
"If you ascend a hill by 50 meters, your drone can reach a height of 120 meters above this spot, which is now considered as the ground. Keep in mind that in the UK, the maximum permitted flight height is 120 meters. So, if you're a responsible flyer, why would you choose to do this?"
No your drone can’t. That’s the entire purpose of this.
It’s not only in UK it’s 120 meters it’s more or less the same height restriction the entire world.
The reason is because the drone is not measuring the height over ground. It’s measuring the height over the take off point. I tried to explain this very well. I’m sorry to hear that i still didn’t manage to emphasize it enough.
Fine opinion, we should instead advertise to stick to the rules and not make up anything to get out of it. That 120 meters really has a function. I am not going to declassify my Mini 4 but enjoy things I am allowed to do with this drone and that is, in Europe, a lot.
Hi, yes as a new UK drone operator the posts on CZcams on this rulings and most recent update are causing me some confusion. The way I interpret the UK CAA height rule is that we get 120m from point of take off i.e. measured from ground wherever that may be. So although I can currently exceed 120m through the setting, to be UK legal I must set to 120m. Is this correct.
Now as for taking my drone to any EU country, with the right aviation authorisation I'm still compliant if my setting is =
@@allanb2906 =
@@RONALDSCHULTE Thanks for the clarification. I'm just puzzled as to why ppl are getting excited about this? Just for clarification though, when I do the next firmware update will my max limit be set at 120m or would I be able to exceed that using the slider on the controller like I can currently?
Mini 4 pro can easily be over 250 grams, add extended flight battery. It no longer qualifies as C0. I think that is why the drone could be classified either way. The drone can weigh under or over 250 grams, so I think that is why you get to choose.
Negative. We still can’t buy the Plus battery in Europe. I had a long chat with DJI but they could not provide an answer so I’m continuing my chase for answers 😁
@@MK-Creator makes sense, what about prop guards? There are like so many ways to make the Mini 3 and 4 weigh more than 249 grams, that it in most cases doesn't qualify as a Class 0. I figured that is why they have to allow a way to opt out of Class 0. Even putting the mini 3 battery into the mini 4 pro takes it over the weight (non-plus battery).
@@MK-Creator it’s not that clear of a decision you have to make. i’ve got a license by myself hence i know the rules. firstly, the only reason why you can choose between the classes c0 and c1 is that you are simply not allowed to fly over 120 m with a c0-drone anyway. and that’s actually enough for most professional tasks. besides you are not allowed to go out of line of sight but going over 120 m would undermine this rule anyway because it‘s quite high and i doubt most people would see it then. but if you wanna categorically deny the rules and go higher up a mountain without being able to see the drone you could reset the starting point easily with ever landing and starting again but then you possibly wouldn‘t be near one return-to-home point anymore which could lead you to searching for it. furthermore with the c1-class there comes the disadvantage that you cannot fly over people anymore so you would have to worry about more things when flying. so what has been a benefit of the c0-class once will be no more with reclassifying to c1. you should mention those things for people are able to make a better decision.
I am unable to request for high altitude on the app what do i do ?
Are you within a EASA country ?
if i buy the mini pro 4 now in the eu ( netherland) and il do this steps you talking about, from c0 to c1 do i need then doing a drone exam for that?... for the c1??... i dont understand it anymore lol its so confused... i got the idea of the c0 at 120m limit and after c1 is 500m limit... but what about the eu rules and a drone license at c1?...
If you do this you do it to have a drone that does not have the C certification! For example you can then fly higher than 120 m from take off point. But you still can’t fly higher than 120 meters from the current ground level.
Don’t do this with the intention to re classify as C1…. That would be completely useless. Do this to have an unclassified drone.
@@MK-Creator Thank u for the answer! :) but the steps in your video do i need to do that if i buy this year a mini 4 pro drone?... that scan qr code, send picture with and without sticker, for getting that 120m.500m hight?.... or is that the C0 to C1 label?.... Sorrie im just new in this lol. was planning to buy the mini 4 pro in may 2024. but this makes everything diffrent for me now. so im searching deeper and trying to understand all information about the C0, C1, A1, yes or no drone licence for the 249
@@Exploring_with_Photograpy_Don't bother if you are in the Netherlands. It is illegal to fly above 120m in the open category. Also, you must be able to see your drone at all times (VLOS). Flying above 120 m is only allowed in the specific category and that has a lot of other regulations and will cost you. I've seen a few video's like this one explaining this modification. Just don't do it, unless you don't give a crap about the rules and want to spoil flying drones for the rest of us.
@janf.327 This is not about flying higher than 120 m above the ground. It’s about having the possibility to fly higher than 120 m from the take off point. If you don’t have that need or will never have. There is no reason to declassify.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts 💭 👍
@@janf.327 thats your side of story... did i say that all?... i was more focust on the fact about the c0 or c1 lable.. and a license yes or no... and if il do it, and dji or the eu making new rules for the declassifications drones, then i cant no way back and i need a license... just thinking further then only here and now.. and its more that i have that option free, if im on vacation like italy, or austria, germany with high Mountains and stuff so i have that option for flying there... but thank you for the info lol... 🙏🏻👌🏻
This info is misleading. IF you surpass 120m height you are stepping out of A1/A3 category in the eyes of law. In all classifications C0 - C4 height limit is 120m by regulations. also if your drone is C1 you need to take an exam online and get certification for A1/A3 drone pilot license. You cannot fly over people in C1 class. so the are many downsides. Also the height limit is measured from take off height so not absolute heigh (sea level). So if you are on a 2000m mountain top and place your drone on the ground you can take off and fly 120m above the 2000m mountain.
What if drone doesn't have a label, what do you do about the before and after photos?
Did it fall off??? Hmm… send in two pictures??
@@MK-Creator no I have the mini 3pro which has no label from purchase
@@designamind mini 3 is already in this state, just be wary of any firmware updates to c0
My drone already lets me go up to 500m - what if i just dont update the drone?
Well then you will have a non updated drone 😁
When taking the verification pictures...the Serial Number (S/N) should be visible on the pictures.
Probably, perhaps and maybe. Even tho it’s not in the picture the process worked.
@@MK-Creator yes :) remarkable
Anyone know if you'll get the 'Declassification Prompt' in Ireland? As its an EU country and abides by the EASA. So I assume it'll work there?
@@joe0454 excellent! Just had my Mini 4 Pro up at 200m in South Africa! Beautiful views
According to the pictures on the site, you need to remove the battery so your picture contains the serial number.
Well it worked fine…
I saw that. It looks like they don't check it all.
Indeed…
or just get the fcc hack and you can keep your drone c0 and remove the 120m limit and have the best of both worlds.
the process of removing the c0 rating is not a wise one to do
hello last week i bought the dji mini 4 pro with the rc2 controller and my altitude limit is set to 120m. but I dont have the button to request higher altitude limit. anyone know why?
Are you located within an EASA country? Is the firmware up to date?
@@MK-Creator yes i al currently living in Belgium
@@MK-Creator I found out why, because i need to do a firmware update but i'm not able to , its stays stuck in the downloading screen for hours and i have a perfect internet connection.
I was just about to say that it’s because of an old firmware. In worst case do a factory reset. I have another video about that.
@@MK-Creator thank you , this morning i went to the store where I bought it they fixed some things and I was able to download the update now thank you.
2 days ago I bought a Mini 2 SE manufactured in September 2023. It has no C0 label and no 120m limit out of the box.
I do have to say that as a first time buyer anything above about 75m feels way to high for me to be comfortable with.
So I manually limit the max height to 80m which is what seems like a comfortable max height for a sub 250gram machine.
😃👍🏼
In Hungary you dont need a licence and insurance for a C0 drone. So i will keep my label 🤷♂️
That’s the same in entire EU at least. 😃👍
it’s not that clear of a decision you have to make. i’ve got a license by myself hence i know the rules. firstly, the only reason why you can choose between the classes c0 and c1 is that you are simply not allowed to fly over 120 m with a c0-drone anyway. and that’s actually enough for most professional tasks. besides you are not allowed to go out of line of sight but going over 120 m would undermine this rule anyway because it‘s quite high and i doubt most people would see it then. but if you wanna categorically deny the rules and go higher up a mountain without being able to see the drone you could reset the starting point easily with ever landing and starting again but then you possibly wouldn‘t be near one return-to-home point anymore which could lead you to searching for it. furthermore with the c1-class there comes the disadvantage that you cannot fly over people anymore so you would have to worry about more things when flying. so what has been a benefit of the c0-class once will be no more with reclassifying to c1. you should mention those things for people are able to make a better decision.
You are not allowed to fly higher than 120 m with a C1 either… and most of what you are saying is mentioned in the video.
But I would consider it as a fairly bad idea to declassify it with the intention to then classify it as a C1. Makes no sense.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Thank you! So what if I buy the drone now but declassify it in 2024?
There is no info so far that I have found if it will be possible to perform that in 2024.
I come from Germany and the same discussion is taking place there. However, it is assumed that DJI will remove the possibility of declassification.
Placing on the market means DJI has placed the drone on the market, the date of purchase of the drone has nothing to do with placing on the market. Therefore, it is highly unlikely that declassification will be possible from 01.01.24.
If you can remove the label than you will be able to do that in 2024 without issues because your drone was bought before 31.12.2023.
They plan to have a non removable label after 01.01.2024.
Of course this will be impossible, many seller will have the drone with removable label for sale in stock after 01.01.2024.
So technically if your drone got a removable label you will be able to declassify it after January 24.
Simply removing the C0 label does not declassify. You need a modified firmware for this. DJI will certainly no longer offer this from January 1, 2024 due to EU regulations.
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I just checked the Air 3 and it still goes up to 1000m in the UK so no action needed
That should be correct. You are outside this cozy union called EU 😂
@@MK-Creator indeed! But I do take my drone to EU so I guess I will still need to declassify for the future but how can I do it now from England? I guess in EU it will reset to max 120 m?
@@porschecarreras992cabriole8 correct. The only difference is that it will be restricted to 120 meters. I have a video coming out shortly where I go through the classification mess.
@@MK-Creator I will be watching it for sure. I am interested in declassify mine like you did your either now or in future date. I think you mentioned that it would be possible as I bought it before the end of 2023 and the option will be available to me whilst in EU?
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We are in 2024 ans I still have the possibility to declassify it 🤔
I believe that if you Declassify your drone, we will lose the ability to fly over crowds or over buildings, as C0 drones are aloud here in the uk. Please correct me if I’m wrong, regards Chris
Luckily you are actually wrong. How you are allowed to fly is stated by the subcategory the drone is sectioned into. A1, A2 or A3.
In A1 you have a C0 or C1 drones and drones without class that are sub 250g and put on the market before 31 December 2023.
Note that no drones are allowed to fly over assembles of people. Only a few people…
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You write: '...your drone can fly up to 500 meters.' Maybe the drone can do that but in most countries it is forbidden to fly higher than 120 meters and for good reasons. There are people who want to get out from under all kinds of rules and deliberately start flying in airspace that is not meant for such drones. People like that also make sure that rules have to be constantly tightened. You as a youtuber should not advertise for people to violate such rules but make sure that people do follow the rules and therefore, for example, do not remove the C0 sticker but just stay neatly under 120 meters and why that rule was devised. I would advertise all kinds of things that you are allowed to do with that drone and we can be really happy about that.
Well I would like to point out that 120m AGL restriction in EU/EASA rules and regulations refers to operating in the open category. Then there's the specific category and certified. U're totally entitled to get permit & waivers from local airspace authorities to fly at any height under those categories IMO ❤️🙏😂
@Teflonfilmare agree. Anything outside the Open category is just in a very different ballpark…
If you declasify your drone you will automatically fall into A1 classification starting in 2024. See Legacy Drone rule.
Exactly. That’s what I said in the video too 😃👍
A1 is the same subcategory as the C0 drones.
Hope you never need a replacement drone in the DJI Care Refresh.. What will you receive? With a label or without? 🤣🤣🤣
lol. Very good question… maybe have to try that next year! 😂
It's a good question, but can you talk us through it please or a review would be appreciated please 😊
This is so silly. Hopefully the drone will measure distance from take off location and not sea level?
It does. The drone don’t care about sea level. It measure from take off point
Japan must be excempted OMG yesterday i flew 30 metres only..I need my money back
30 m?? Altitude limit? Is that the max in your setting? Are you maybe located in an altitude restriction zone?
DJI must pay for the ticket to go to EU
Sent them the receipt 🧾😂
I read , sold before 2024
Anders Sweden Gothenburg
That’s what it says… but one never know after 23:59 2023-12-31 😂
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@@MK-Creator
Tack
Thanks for the tip, but I wonder if this applies to the DJI mini 3 pro? I didn't see any stickers on mine?
No the mini 3 pro is not C0 certified
Wait.. if you are up the mountain the ground level is where you stand so it stays 120m....
If you are on a mountain, or anywhere else on the earth. The take off elevation is counted from where you are taking off. Not to be confused with for example elevation over sea level.
Yes so you have Always 120m up unless you walk up after taking off
@MK-Creator also I think the drone can only measure take off point not ground level so you won't have a situation where if you fly away from the mountain top the drone will stop because of ground level.
@Rcworldshop.C0M exactly. It will measure from the take off point. That is 0m / 0ft