Stop putting FAKE ASL interpreters on the news‼️
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- In a Blue Beetle interview with KCAL NEWS, they featured an “interpreter” on the news. Not only are the signs wrong but the captions are wrong too. For the News praising accessibility, this interview was NOT accessible. Interpreting and communicating are two different things. Interpreting is a skill you acquire through many years of studying, typically you must have a bachelors degree in ASL interpreting and then go on to pursue your certification. Putting someone unqualified with maybe one ASL class under their belt does not make them fluent or an ASL interpreter. Claiming to be an ASL interpreter is illegal and violates the ADA law. Do not use your ASL skills as a way to practice your interpreting skills in a professional setting. You are taking away access.
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Your anger is JUSTIFIED.
It is. Was that girl PRETENDING? Or did she think she was actually signing correctly?
@@JescaPilarshe was
@@KiransGamingGalaxyPretending...right?
I’m speechless. That’s heartbreaking that it’s 2024 and there’s still ““interpreters”” showing up ON NATIONAL TELEVISION no less!!! As a hard-of-hearing person, this makes me mad. Something needs to change.
If the access of hearing people was taken away, EVERYONE would switch up. Something needs to be done about this. I’m sick and tired of seeing fake interpreters on my screen and losing admiration for actors I love because they don’t care about accessibility.
@@L1zHarris yes these fake interpreters are wrong and so are the national television crew for still letting this kind of stuff happen
If it's illegal, there should be real consequences!
@@L1zHarrisyou have to be that voice for the deaf. Lead the charge in making sure that ADA laws are enforced to ensure TV stations and any other places that hire actors that supposedly ASL and ASL interpreters are vetted for this reason.
@@lun4r_jxydeExactly!! If people are looking to hire ASL interpreters, at the very least they should confirm that whoever they choose is legitimately qualified.
She’s not mad she’s learning asl. She’s mad that this woman is being fake. She is totally justified, that is unacceptable
Agree!
I speak pretty good Xhosa, enough to hold a conversation. I tried interpreting (informally) once - it's really difficult, you need a lot more than fluency in both languages. This woman has zero business interpreting on broadcast media.
ASL is NOT a joke, I’m so sad that this happens, and keeps happening, I wish people would be a little less ignorant
This!
@@chelsieharris8136
The only way to make others Les ignorant is to educate them. The deaf community is pretty large and diverse. Maybe it's time to forge a campaign to get their attention.
People may also be unaware that when streaming there are times when captioning won't appear because ASL is being used. There are times with scripted programming where the camera doesn't show all of the signing or times in live broadcasts when an "interpreter" isn't actually qualified, and the content becomes completely inaccessible.
I think the idea of closed captioning being disabled when an ASL interpreter is present is completely ridiculous. I'm not deaf but I can't see any benefit ASL has over closed captioning (obviously for live events it's totally needed, but if it's not then why bother)
@@williamdrum9899 yeah like not every deaf and hoh person knows sign language, a lot of us are denied access to that knowledge, it's really best to have captions AND sign
@@dragonflies6793 captions make things more accessible for many other people too, not just deaf people. I’m not deaf myself, but I like them because I speak English as a second language and can read more easily than I can understand spoken English.
@@dragonflies6793and not everyone knows the same sign language either! British Sign Language and American Sign Language are totally different, despite them both frequently being used to interpret English.
aand for people who are hard of hearing but not completely dead, captions are a necessity. I am unable to hear well and i need captins
Also she's wearing a t-shirt with a design on it. A real interpreter would definitely know to wear a SOLID color that contrasts well with their skin tone for legibility!
I’m learning ASL currently, by no means an expert, but I saw one once (presented like this where I only knew of it from a deaf person’s channel) where the lady looked like she was dancing a bad version of the Macarena rather than actually signing anything. She was called out and researched and turns out she was a serial fraud and impersonator with multiple convictions. And she got on TV “interpreting” for a police press conference or (something like that). Despicable.
If this is the same case I’m thinking of, I believe the police themselves later said “I guess we should’ve checked her out more before hiring her” 🤦♀️
I remember that video. I remember seeing a comment that said something like “I bet the deaf people are wondering why she just declared war on toasters.”
@@jessicajennings9148lol
Dear christ
I would be close to tears too! My friend is deaf and has learned ASL since she was three. I have learned a bit, but I fully understand her when she uses it. What that girl was saying on the news made no sense. ASL is NOT A JOKE. It’s like saying every language in the world is a joke. ASL is a LANGUAGE and NOT to be disrespected. This is just sickening. I would be mad too honestly.
Bro I am literally LEARNING, L E A R N I N G ASL..I would NEVER EVER EVERRRRR do that. Who the actual HELL would:
1. Claim that they are an interpreter.
2. Claim they have the SKILLS to be an INTERPRETER.
3. Go on THE NEWS.. where more then BILLIONS of DEAF ppl are WATCHING, and fricking not even interprete properly??
This is honestly making me rlly angry, cause I'm learning ask and I would NEVER EVER in my WHOLE LIFE, even if I GOT A CHANCE TO..do ANYTHING similar to this or this itself. I'm sure that girl must've been happy, but maybe she would be even more happy if she had the skills and other ppl would also be happier (deaf ppl) seeing the deaf community representation. I'm sorry if this came off a bit harsh, but I let it come off as much as I felt abt this situation. I don't do that normally.
I'm genuinely upset about this. My fam- *clears throat* dad. My dad makes fun of it sometimes if he sees me practicing and he starts moving his hands around and then says "What? I was just talking to ___!" Or "What? I was just telling ____ to ____."
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Like bro..just stop.
U ain't only not taking it srs.. you're trying to bring me down abt something incredibly AMAZING and EFFECTIVE (in a good way) for others (deaf community) and myself. So I hate hate HATEEEE when ppl don't take sign language srs. Like learn it if u want, but don't do stuff like this. It's straight up rude and disrespectful.
Womp womp
@@Milo_Official812forreal girl. please keep that energy! we need more hearing people talking about this! The way ASL is not respected as a language is absolutely disgusting.
@@didi85515It is so idiotic to not take it seriously, like what do those people think any language is…?!?! Spoken words are just a bunch of sounds we decided to assign meanings to, and written words are some scribbles that we assigned meanings to. They’re ways to communicate that we humans just decided on, which is incredible, honestly that we can make some sounds and write some shapes and it can communicate all of our ideas. But then, why would the movements of ASL be any different?! It’s a way to communicate and it’s an awesome one. I mean, blind people cannot understand ASL, but can hear spoken word; so if deaf people can’t hear spoken word, why shouldn’t there be ASL?! It just makes sense to have ways to communicate that require or don’t require different senses.
I just mean that the people who don’t take it seriously should think about how arbitrary ANY language or form of communication is. Writing squiggles and voicing sounds, we just chose to give meaning to those! Why is a physical motion like sign language any less dignified?
Idk. I just think people don’t think things through sometimes :/
@@AlexanderrRobinEvansto answer your last question (which might be rhetorical but just wanted to put in my two cents), I think this is because of the belief that being able to understand and speak verbal languages takes greater intelligence, so that people who can’t do that are just “dumber,” and have to rely on “primitive” hand gestures. Which is, ofc, untrue, bc of what you said on attributed meaning. Whether someone can hear has nothing on whether they understand how to communicate and what is speaking said to them, regardless of the medium. Linguistic ability in general does not equate to level of intellect and I’m sick and tired of ppl acting as if it were and giving themselves a superiority complex.
Deaf people use sign languages because it’s the medium that makes the most sense. Not very long ago (you might know this already) there was the expectation that Deaf ppl need to learn verbal language as in lip reading and relying on all sorts of mouth techniques and guides to formulate verbal words which is not only wild but insanely difficult and yet they were punished if they tried to sign to each other. It still happens today but not to as large of a scale as was before. It really feels like some of the hearing folks that have did prejudices just don’t want to be bothered to learn sign language to support their child/relative/friend. But even so, not providing ASL translation at all is still not to the same level of maliciousness as making a fake translation so that hearing folks think there’s accommodation when there’s only insult to injury
I can see the hurt in her heart. Know that you are doing a huge favor by giving the deaf community the representation It deserves. This is never ok.
Ahhh you got me emotional at the end there, Liz. Keep spreading awareness that ASL is a language. It's not "English signs for deaf people" like no, it's another language. Such a beautiful one at that. I added this to my awareness playlist as well to help spread it.
It's not even the only sign language that people in English speaking countries use. BSL is a separate thing, Australian sign is a thing, ASL is not the be all end all of 'English sign language', especially when ASL actually evolved from French sign language more than anything. It's its own thing, & it's far from the only sign language even amongst English speakers
@@BooksandBuns Yes!! And I believe (I could be wrong) countries like Mexico use ASL and that is a Spanish speaking country. But exactly, ASL is it's own language and there are many sign languages!! All the sign languages are a language family like the romance languages, Asian languages, slavic languages, etc.!
Ooh, I appreciate your idea about an awareness playlist… 🤔
@@sabinamariaActually in México there is LSM, that is the sign language used here, and there are a lot of other sign languages for diferent spanish speaker countries too
I agree! I teach ASL and deaf myself teaching ASL 1. I told my students if you take interpreting jobs you going be in a huge trouble. NEVER take any interpreting jobs until you are fluent with your signing and interacted with the deaf community immersing. Also taking interpreting classes and training. How could she just squeak by and do this. It doesn't matter if it was his sister but it's not okay. The news station and the actor should make a public apology and replace that fraud "interpreter" with a professional interpreter and upload again. Since the sister is already in a PIP setting and it easy to switch out to a professional certified ASL interpreter.
I took an ASL class in college because I used to work with a guy that was deaf and I thought it would be good to know. I was doing ok in the class; I took it seriously and was sitting on the fence for either an A or a B in the class. For our final, we had to sign a song. I chose Same Auld Lang Syne by Dan Fogelberg; turns out it was a hard song to sign, but the teacher was great for helping me learn how to do it. When it was my turn, I got up there, did the first two words and froze. I didn’t sign anything else; alone up there, standing like an idiot for 3 minutes doing nothing. I was so embarrassed, but I can attest signing is no joke and hard. Fortunately, the teacher graded me on my work she saw prior to the exam and gave me a good enough grade to get the A in the class. It definitely pays to participate in a class
I'm not deaf, but I am an ambulatory wheelchair user with a chronic illness and I've witnessed how people take accessibility as a joke. This is a civil rights issue. What that show did was the equivalent of mocking deaf people and I'm amazed they got away with it in the 21st century!
i'm a hearing theatre actress; it's appalling how little representation of Deafness there is across all forms of acting, and how often hearing people play Deaf/HOH characters - opportunities that should inarguably be given to Deaf/HOH actors. liz, i hope you achieve your acting goals and keep raising awareness about accessibilty. keep up your good work; it matters and it makes a difference.
Thank you ❤
@@MikeDonaldson-eh2ru yep, i am an actress as well and have played all sorts of roles that don't reflect my own experience, but personally i feel it is different for Deaf roles as they usually require a strong grasp of ASL and Deaf culture; else the portrayal feels inauthentic. you can see this sentiment echoed by Deaf viewers of most media with hearing actors in Deaf/HOH roles. people can cast things however they want though
@@MikeDonaldson-eh2ru honestly it’s hard to compare an astronaut to a deaf person because the deaf community has been oppressed for as long as deaf people have existed, and with that we have our community and our own language. We are just more visual than people that can hear. There is only so much. You can learn about being deaf, but unless you are deaf, you can’t portray that experience and the feeling and the frustration of constantly being ignored by people. it’s the same as if you were to cast a white person to play someone who grew up in Venezuela. It’s very different.
@@L1zHarris That's really interesting because that mirrors what I've heard about able-bodied actors playing wheelchair users. The part could have been given to a genuinely disabled person and unless you are a wheelchair user you won't know the difficulties and challenges. It's not just sitting in a chair with wheels. Accessibility matters. Best of luck to you from across The Pond!
@@yippee8570 ❤️❤️❤️
Never thought institutions as distinguished as the news would bring up a fake interpreter, EWW! It's honestly disgusting girl that people aren't taking this seriously. We have just restricted and excluded a whole group of people from understanding the news. We have discriminated a good portion of the population because of ignorance. Imagine the amount of backlash this girl would have received if she was instead responsible for writing subtitles for this news segment. Imagine the attacks she (and said actor) would have received from native speakers who felt offended, misrepresented and confused with the wrong captions. Imagine if she was responsible for the audio playback of that news segment, then messed up and made it go silent. She would have been ridiculed and cancelled online. But when it's ASL, it's not that serious. Disgusting.
I could hear your voice cracking Elizabeth, and I know that, no matter how much I can empathize with this situation, I can never feel the disappointment and ire you must feel towards society. All I can do is support you, so, 2:35, period queen, I'm standing by you.
News institutions are not distinguished, they are opportunistic capitalist enterprises. Sorry you had to find out this way, but if it wasn't clear from Gaza, at least you're still seeing it.
The news didn't bring her, the guest did.
U sound like ur gonna cry hun…….
What this girl did is *NOT* ok. She looked like she’s never even been in a ASL class and I can’t believe she said yes to “translating”. The amount of deaf ppl that were probably SO excited to finally see their language is horrible. I hope she is held accountable for this BS
@@MikeDonaldson-eh2ru ok my apologies I did not know that much concept on this but is she rlly a child she kinda looks like she’s like 18 but still she should’ve said no bc she knows she’s not fluent in ASL and her brother should DEFINITELY be held accountable for this bullshit and she’s not so innocent herself
@@MikeDonaldson-eh2ru 16 is plenty old enough to know better. You have a weird idea of personal responsibility.
Nothing better than commenting on how a deaf person’s voice sounds
@@davidlloyd1526age does matter for legal accountability which might be what the user was responding to. But yeah regardless of how, she ought to be held accountable in some way
im sorry liz, i get how this can be suuuuper frustrating. i wish more people actually put in effort into accommodating the deaf community. keep raising awareness!!! love you!! 🫶🫶
sadly some people do see asl as a joke. i was trying to learn asl a few months ago and my ex best friend (who was my best friend at the time) was constantly mocking me and saying it’s not a real language. i tried to explain to her that waving around her hands and saying it’s sign is just as offensive as saying ching chong or whatever but she refused to understand. i can’t even imagine how much worse i would feel if i was deaf and it was my main form of communication.
What a dense person to be around. Glad you ditched her.
@@thatalchemistlady actually she ditched me lol. it took me a few months to realize it was for the better
I didn't even know there was such thing as a fake interpreter being allowed on TV. I thought anything like that would be impossible, to the point I never questioned it. Thank you for making people aware.
"do some people think ASL is a joke?" As a hearing person, absolutely yes. Honestly? Of course it depends on your area and who's around you but so many hearing people grow up thinking this, and not just about ASL. Disability is always discussed and portrayed as either a joke or something to cry over. Kids will grow up mocking sign language and no one does anything about it, so of course we never grow out of seeing it as a joke. On top of that, many people don't see it as a language, either. When we think of language, we're gonns think of speaking languages, not sign language, because thats only ever brought up as a joke. You probably already know this as someone who uses ASL day-to-day but there are SO MANY people who dont even understand that theres multiple types of sign language- when people in america think of sign language they think of ASL and thats it. Even my mom thought that there was just a singular universal sign language and i had to tell her theres not, and a few years ago i thought the same thing too. And for SL being apart of deaf culture, the unfortunate thing is that a lot of people can't wrap their heads around the idea that deaf people could have a culture in the first place (despite people somehow thinking youre all connected?? Ableism is weird man) You're just seen as pitiable and cultures are supposed to have happy aspects but no one seems to see that you can be content and even happy with life while being disabled. I'm sorry you have to deal with such bullshit everyday, hopefully we'll reach a point in time where nondisabled people can see disabled people as equals
Especially for those that live in Deaf neighborhoods/communities, many people can say that it doesn’t seem like they’re disabled because guess what, with the right kinds of accommodations then the disability hardly is relevant. Funny how that works. And yeah agreed with how there’s very little exposure in hearing media or education about sign languages in general or Deaf people or really much of any disability so if you’re not already in the know, it’s very easy to be ignorant for one’s entire life.
doing fake sign language is like if a show just said “worbendoble nubuksalin” and called it “english”
As someone who admires ASL, and has taken classes on the language, as well as uses it to help communicate in their classroom (very loosely mind you as I’m hearing and I teach in a hearing school), this is simply repulsive. I use ASL and want my students to know as much about the language as possible but NEVER, NEVER Tell them I’m fluent or that I can interpret. If they want to know or learn a sign that I don’t know I’m always down to learn with them. But to stand in front of any group of people lie, and blatantly deny deaf and hard of hearing people the access to their language is. Gross.
ohhh Liz.. the wavering and shaking in your voice and passionate intensity in your signs 🥺♥️ I'm sorry you have to experience that shit. im sure it's not the first rollercoaster of emotions regarding fair and proper access, nor will it be the last..
I can’t even believe that is still happening!!! I just went through and Interpreter training program, and would never interpret for the news until I am much more skilled. Thanks for spreading awareness!
That’s so valuable and important to know what your skill set is as of this moment! ❤ thank you
She was definitely too overconfident, she looked really young. I agree with you, I think that she might’ve just started learning ASL. It’s a really bad look for that news station, I don’t know who would be at fault here, probably the girl and the news station both. I have been around news stations before and a lot of times they will search for any crumbs just too look like they have “inclusivity” and “diversity”. They thrive off of tokenization of underrepresented groups, such as people of colour, the deaf community, and the disability community as a whole, just to win the favour and the hearts of the general public. One big thing that happens in live TV is hyping up people who are subpar at this type of thing and who have really novice knowledge of the subject, just so that they can easily check mark “representation” off of their bingo card instead of searching for an actual deaf or hard of hearing professional ASL interpreter who is qualified for the job. She probably honestly didn’t 100% feel comfortable before everyone convinced her and hyped her up to go on stage.
Although I dont know asl and don't have any deaf family members, I have a friend whose parents are deaf and speaks asl. It breaks my heart just knowing the disabled families that can't properly watch the news because these "interpreters" make it difficult for them to comprehend the news. I agree on how asl is a language and not just "deaf people stuff" because these horrible human being "interpreters" don't understand the struggles deaf people and other disabled people face in order to find accessibility. Sad, this is just disgusting.
No you 100% are justified. If the news was in a language I didn’t understand and for a glimpse and split second I thought I would be able to be represented and understand without subtitles and the person was speaking jibberish but adding in a couple of words here and there, I’d be offended too, that more than anything. Like they think this is a game or something? Wow…
So I am a person who can't keep their mouth shut. So whenever I'm in school and we're not allowed to talk while the teacher is talking I use my sign that I know to still say it. I do not have any trouble with hearing. This is not something that any professional recommended to me I just started learning ASL and started using it for this. In my experience living from the LA area Kids at school would come up to me and move their hands around looking like their hands are having seizure episodes (these kids are the closest thing in my school to "popular kids"). They asked me "Isn't sign language is kinda like German where it's just a bunch of sounds with meanings. I can just move my hands and a deaf person would know what I'm saying?" That just made me hate them more than I already did. Unfortunately these kinds of people call themselves masters after learning what "thank you" is in ASL and get put up with the impression that they know what they're doing bc hearing people don't know any better. It's like if braille on a sign was wrong but no one would find out bc it's not their problem.
I hate how common these access issues are. People not knowing ASL. Braille being wrong. Ramps being too steep. Bathrooms having strong chemical cleaners or scented soap that people with chemical and sensory sensitivities can't use. Buttons on doors not working, or doors not having buttons at all. Bathroom stalls being too small to actually bring a wheelchair in even when it's the "accessible" stall. On and on and on
"Isn't sign language kinda like German where it's just bunch of sounds with meaning"
What does that even mean??
...I mean I suppose all spoken languages are technically just "bunch of sounds with meaning" but what
@@dragonflies6793as a person with scoliosis ( a disability) and wears a huge brace… WHY WITH THE TINY BATHROOM STALLS AND THINGS NEAR THE GROUND 😭😭
@@shellykidvid omg why is it so hard to reach the toilet paper in "accessible" stalls, they always put it so low to be below the hand rails
@@dragonflies6793 I know right and I literally can’t bend down to get it and I’m like augghhh
I have a cousin who is taking classes in ASL, I think college level.
I don't know much about it, but I subscribed.
Wanna learn.
Langauges are cool.
But also you're right, a society should pride itself on its accessibility, and if you are an able bodied person with all the works, you should still feel uncomfortable in a wolrd that doesn't cater to wheel chairs, or with braile for the blind or ASL for the deaf.
Because like the Joker says, all it takes is one bad day man.
So yeah. It bothers me. All the inaccessibility in the world.
Oh and even like for videogames.
Like its fine to have colorful characters but every color should be another shade too or paired with a tonescreen pattern so that colorblind people have a proxy so they can use the same tools the same way. And not everybody has the same number of fingers or the same range of motion.
So it just irritates me that we live in a world with so little redundancy for accessibility.
Like videogames COULD come with accessibility in mind, but USUALLY you have to go out of your way to get a crack team of nerds to help you be included.
That enrages me. I love the nerds. I wish we didn't need some third party nerd group tho. You know?
I'm not well informed but I do care, and I want people to be included and have fun and all that 💖
P.S: plus I'm hella hard of hearing, so give it a few years and I might be deaf as well 😅 so no judgemenr, never ever, in fact, caring about disabled or differently abled people could be seen as future-proofing in addition to being the obvious excersize in basic empathy that it already is. Take care of others and yourself that's life you know?
Anyone saying you're just being mean is ignorant. You're anger is completely justifiable, thank you for bringing attention to this. I didn't realize there were people who pretended to be interpreters, that's insane. You're completely right that an entire community's accessibility is being taken away. ❤
Liz, okay wow. A lot to say. My ex-husband works in network news, I've been adjacent to this industry for 24yrs, and while I can picture exactly how this happened, I find it appalling. See, I am also a disability activist and educator, (as well as a partially ambulatory wheelchair user) and I really don't want to let this lie.
If you want to chat, my contact info is in my bio...I'm relatively easy to vet because of my old job. I am fairly certain that there is a process to file a formal complaint with CBS, but I know that there is with the FCC.
(I'm also friends with some really cool disabled actors you should meet if you haven't. Feminist networking at it's finest.)
I know how emotionally exhausting this crap can be, I really do. It is so frustrating that we are still here. But there are tools at our disposal we couldn't have dreamed of a generation ago, social media has allowed us to all connect in a way that was never possible before. I think that's powerful. 💜
Well put Liz. The deaf audience needs proper interpreters, not whatever she was. Try not to be too mad. Life is too short to dwell on it, but you continue your fight for the deaf community. You are a great spokesperson for them. ❤
The FCC needs to start fining these actions as aggressively as it fines Super Bowl performances. If you are going to use an ASL interpreter, their skills should be proven beyond being somebody's sister. Now we got Nepo ASL. 😠
As someone who’s trying to learn ASL and has deaf and mute family that I want to be able to communicate with, that’s honestly so frustrating. Your frustration is 100% valid!!! It isn’t fair for someones way of communication to be taken as a joke. If I didn’t understand even an ounce of ASL, I’d still be able to notice she doesn’t know what she’s doing. What is wrong with people!?
You're right. In my country deaf people have been telling the national tv uses interpreters that don't do their hob right and use sing languages that they don't understand.
Many years ago a guy in him late 30s or early 40s learned reading and writing, since then he grew and made huge influence in the country, and one of those influences was our nationalizing language and schools for our deaf children but the current regime got rid of those schools and now our deaf children have to go to school with non deaf children. R.I.P Mr. Baghchehbaan. You are remembered forever.
I'm from Iran btw.
You go girl you have my support. Please realize that you’re not alone. Many people with draw back in life are faced with this kind of nonsense. You get on your soapbox and stand up for what you believe in.👍
ASL is so so so so so not a joke 😡 I totally understand u. I am not deaf but a teacher in my school learned asl she inspired me a bunch and I thought it's super cool to be speaking fluently in a super cool language. I love the asl community with all my heart and I actually have a hard of hearing deaf cousin.
I totally agree with you. I am not deaf and only know very little ASL, but i can understand your frustration. I couldn't imagine being so happy that you are finally being recognized and appreciated and then you find out its all fake. I just wish others could be considerate of other people and realize that sign language is not a joke, it is a beautiful language like all the others and it shouldn't be made fun of whatsoever.
It's heartbreaking that this keeps happening. It's so hard when you feel like you're not being represented, your voice is not being heard, and your community is just being waved away. This needs to change. People need to wake up. Good on you for speaking out about it! 😊
People like you and stories like yours have made learning ASL on my bucket list. I hope that our society can notice and change and become better.
you should be angry! the people who say you shouldn't obviously don't care about the representation of the deaf community. I'm glad you posted this because, at least now there's one less fake interpreter who is getting away with the things they do
This is so sad to see and I'm so so so sorry to everyone in the deaf community it is just not fair to be treated this way, and you know what else sucks is that most high schools diplomas won't recognize ASL as a language, like you can take it as a class but it won't count as a real language and that's dumb and doesn't even make sense
Your anger and sadness is completely justified. Seeing that makes me sick, and I think it's awesome that you're taking a stand to help your community and educate others about ASL. As a young actress myself, I can't wait to see you in some big acting gig, and I admire your hard work and dedication not only to your craft, but to your community.
I'm really sorry that you experienced this. You expressed yourself so well, though. They are taking away your access, as well as every member of the deaf community, and that's not OK. You are absolutely in the right to call this out, and I hope that your critique goes viral, so people begin to understand the effect things like this have in disadvantaged communities.
Seeing your passion and anger gave me goosebumps. I hope accessibility gets its due. Access is so important, and i hope people at large come to realize this.
For the hearing people out there, with all interpretater needs, please look to your local Regulatory of Interpreters for the Deaf (RID) to ensure they are certified and know what they are doing.
Awe. Bless your heart. You're shaking and I even thought you were about to cry from how disappointed you are. ❤ you're too real. I am glad you're making a difference in your community. So wholesome.
I took two ASL classes many years ago and absolutely loved it and learning about the Deaf Culture. My teacher said I was a fast learner and encouraged me to become an interpreter. Unfortunately that never happened then but it’s never too late! ❤ and you have every right to be upset! I’m right there with you!!
I admire your strength to speak up about this issue. You’re right she did take away your access and many other people’s access I’m so sorry about this, I can even hear the frustration in your voice about it. Thank you for continuing to grow and use your platform for good and raise awareness on these issues. They matter. You matter, I’m so sorry. ♡
Thanks for making people aware about this. Knowledge is power, and I'm thankful someone is out there looking out for us. 😊❤
Wow! That is shocking!
Thank you for sharing your feelings in such an articulate and logical manner. I am particularly grateful that you pointed out the negligence of the brother and sister who squandered an opportunity to advocate and educate others about the importance of ensuring they use qualified interpreters.
I used to be an ASL interpreter and hoped to reenter the profession when my youngest started school. I was accepted into the four year degree program that is now required for all ASL interpreters but I fell and injured my wrist and the doctors advised against it. I am now training to be a mental health counselor and regularly ask questions about interpreters and other accessibility concerns that nobody even knows need to be asked.
I know that many providers, including mental health counselors are required to pay for interpreters if the client requests one, and I was shocked to learn that medical facilities allow Deaf patients to provide their own “interpreters” without verifying their credentials. I understand not wanting a stranger in the room, but even if the family member is certified, it is an ethical and legal nightmare for the clinician. My instinct is to refuse to work with a non-certified interpreter, but the conversation would be very uncomfortable and there is the risk of being accused of discrimination. I cannot imagine how difficult it is for hearing people who are aware of the ADA but unfamiliar with interpreters to tell a Deaf person that they cannot use the “interpreter” of their choice.
TV shows generally rely on captions to satisfy the ADA and only use interpreters when interviewing a Deaf person. Are they required to provide/pay for interpreters rather than use captions for this type of interview? I ask because if they satisfied the law, the television station needs education but they will not be fined or face discipline unless the law requires an interpreter. I am not defending anybody. I just want to understand it better. I appreciate your focus on the two people who “should” follow proper protocol, and am trying to think of ways to help educate hearing people who are afraid of being rude or insensitive towards the person in front of them that the interviewee’s preferences do not alter who has the right to stand in that box.
I am sorry for your pain and want to do my part to improve access, understanding, and connection.
Good for you standing up for deaf people. I have known some deaf people but I was lucky enough that they could read lips. Stand up and let us lucky people know what is going on.👍👍
I'm amazed by your skill and voice. You have a fire inside of you that most people don't have. I know you've got this, and it'll make a huge impact! 🙌🏽
Woah I didn't even know this happened, thanks for shedding light on this. I recently graduated from an interpreting training program and have been signing for a few years, but I'm not claiming I'm an interpreter yet because I'm not certified yet!! It's crazy how people with little-to-no respect towards the Deaf community and the interpreting profession can simply get up there *especially on the news* and claim a title that many individuals work so hard for.
As a language enthusiast, sign language of any kind is not a joke. I would love to learn it. It's very satisfying, and as someone who is often more comfortable being non-verbal, I wish more people learned it as a valid form of communication. It's a shame that not only is it not taught in schools, but it's not even known by "interpreters" themselves.
It’s good that you have passion for helping others like yourself. We need more people like you to represent a community people don’t think about at all.
It's good you're calling this stuff out. Stand up for your community! And we'll stand with you ❤
Thank you for sharing about this- this is absolutely terrible and you being vocal about it is helping move our world into a better place. Thank you.
I love your passion and that fact that you are bringing attention to this matter!! I think it’s very sad that some people do not seem to take ASL and interpreting ASL as seriously as they do a spoken language. If that woman was translating English into another spoken language more people would be in an uproar that her “work” was incorrect. Sadly since non deaf people don’t understand ASL they do not realize the damage being done!! I hope to learn ASL so I can have to option to use it in my career.
That’s not illegal in the US. In fact, in some states like NY, you don’t even need a degree to be an ASL interpreter. You just need a high school diploma.
I would be angry too. I don’t know why anyone would ever do this. It’s horrible.
For people who don’t understand, explain it like this:
This is like an american TV show bringing on a girl who says she speaks spanish but really she doesn’t so all she is saying on the screen is utter gibberish.
It’s mocking the language.
Vice versa if I were to watch mexican TV and they have an english “interpreter” yet all they are saying is a bunch of random english, some not english, words.
We gotta do better and hire the right people for the job.
I so wish you get good acting roles and are able to represent in a larger sphere, you already do so well here on CZcams! Your passion and disappointment in this video is so clear, you don't seem mean at all. I'm so sorry that you had to go through another frustrating moment like this.
Your voice here breaks my heart! 😭 I just thought you’re sick at the beginning, now I understand how hard it is to see people disrespecting others like that, by lying and faking! I hope these people learn their lesson
You have every right to be angry. "Interpreters" are an injustice to anyone who relies on ASL. I wish I was better at learning it, and/or more confident, so that I could try and help to contribute to the solution. You just renewed my dedication to learning ASL.
This is so upsetting. To have the mere audacity to do this.
Imagie someone going on National television for something important and they start speaking in Simlish and call it English and everyone's praising them for it and they're getting paid while you're sitting here feeling absolutely confused and played with.
ASL IS AS IMPORTANT AND VALID AS ANY OTHER LANGUAGE.
I have been severely unilaterally deaf for years now.. that itself is such a struggle. I can't even imagine how bilaterally deaf people feel in these situations.
As someone who isn’t deaf and who honestly doesn’t know anyone who is deaf, I had no idea that this is something that’s happening. I’ve always thought that the ASL interpreters they have on TV are as qualified as anyone else who’s doing anything offivcially on TV is. Since I don’t have any deaf friends or family members, I would have no way to know this is happening if it weren’t for someone like you telling the world it’s happening. And I’m both shocked and upset to know that this is the reality you all are living in. That is not OK!
i love your videos!!! i am so excited to learn more ASL because you got me so interested and hooked!!!!❤❤❤ im taking ASL in high school and im so excited to have it as my minor in college with my major being teaching!!! ily sm🩷🩷
I can hear your voice shaking. your feelings are so justified this is despicable to see. people like her just want her 15 minutes of fame at the cost of others. I fully support your journey to become a deaf actor
I learned a grand total of 3 signs when my daughter was learning ASL (toilet, turkey and sorry), but because she had a great teacher, I learned so much through my daughter about deaf and hard-of-hearing cultures; the accreditation needed to act as an interpreter; and especially that the hearing should not just assume that hearing aids and cochlear implants “solve” deafness.
Come to think of it, maybe ALL hearing people should learn at least to say “sorry” in ASL.
What the heck?? Totally agree ASL is a language and an interpreter plays a vital role in bridging the language barrier. Thanks for sharing this unacceptable behavior and busting them.
TV especially this main stream stuff is sooo faaaakeee! It is not the first time that fake interpreters have been called out. They don’t care how it looks to deaf people, just if it looks good to a majority of viewers who want to use it as a “feel good” and “we did something good!” Even when it is fake. That is sooo messed up and I am so sorry, and angry along side you! Thank you for showing us this!
Can I just take a second to say how beautiful it is the sign for heart in this language?? There are some words that are SO beautiful and nobody talks about it. ASL is an amazing language
I personally have never learned asl or know someone who uses it, but your anger is absolutely valid. This is so many people’s way of getting to know what’s happening in the world! Whether it’s important or not, everyone has the right to know what’s happening in their community. And this is just sad, because this is national television and so on.
Much respect to you. ❤
Your feelings are completely justified. I don't know ASL, but even I could tell right away that she was not interpreting correctly. Her hands were still too often.
I’m tearing up..ur anger is justified!! That’s so disrespectful. I mean an interpretator is there so the recipients who’s only access it is to understand what is being said…
Bro I am literally LEARNING, L E A R N I N G ASL..I would NEVER EVER EVERRRRR do that. Who the actual HELL would:
1. Claim that they are an interpreter.
2. Claim they have the SKILLS to be an INTERPRETER.
3. Go on THE NEWS.. where more then BILLIONS of DEAF ppl are WATCHING, and fricking not even interprete properly??
This is honestly making me rlly angry, cause I'm learning ask and I would NEVER EVER in my WHOLE LIFE, even if I GOT A CHANCE TO..do ANYTHING similar to this or this itself. I'm sure that girl must've been happy, but maybe she would be even more happy if she had the skills and other ppl would also be happier (deaf ppl) seeing the deaf community representation. I'm sorry if this came off a bit harsh, but I let it come off as much as I felt abt this situation. I don't do that normally.
I'm genuinely upset about this. My fam- *clears throat* dad. My dad makes fun of it sometimes if he sees me practicing and he starts moving his hands around and then says "What? I was just talking to ___!" Or "What? I was just telling ____ to ____."
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Like bro..just stop.
U ain't only not taking it srs.. you're trying to bring me down abt something incredibly AMAZING and EFFECTIVE (in a good way) for others (deaf community) and myself. So I hate hate HATEEEE when ppl don't take sign language srs. Like learn it if u want, but don't do stuff like this. It's straight up rude and disrespectful.
You could hear the pain in her voice 😢
You are not mean, your reaction is completely justified. ❤
This is mad funny i hope they keep doing that because i had a blast listening to the proper translation
I got your back girl!!! We ALL got your back!!!
my heart broke by the end of the video, its awful how people think asl isnt a language when many rely on it to communicate 😊😢😕😔
I hope she learns her lesson. I totally agree with you. ❤
My dad and younger brother are hard or hearing and your anger is 100% valid. I am taking an asl class this summer (starts today!) so I can learn more about the deaf community and also for my family knowing sometime in the future I will most likely need to learn some I am going into highschool and I feel like maybe they should ask a deaf person to sign it like off a paper or ask a deaf or hard of hearing person to nominate someone they trust. But this is so sad that this community is still so far behind knowing there have been deaf people for hundreds and hundreds of years and we still have this type of “interpreter”
Sorry if this does not make much sense just kinda ranting 😢
Love your channel and I am so glade I got to find your channel and you will do great in acting!
Im hearing but grew up LOVING THE DEAF COMMUNITY thanks to an accident that landed me in the hospital as a young child and my child roommate was a 12 year old deaf girl that had the longest and pritties hair. So we became friends because i was about 4 and wanted to brush and play with it... And she would try to teach me asl.
As i got older i meet more people that were deaf and i decided to self teach so i could communicate with them because i felt like they had so much to tell me.
It breaks my heart that people don't take it seriously and get away with this shit. Ty for calling her out, Liz. You're amazing
I absolutely agree with you & your feelings. My cousin gets upset if he goes to the hospital & they push in a tv monitor. He wants someone live or he would rather try to read lips. I wish I would of learned this & I think it’s about time I do for people like yourself
My dad agreed with you,asl is not a joke...
As a hearing person that has learnt Zambian Sign Language, I agree with you. Your language needs to be respected. And the news producers should have Deaf experts to vet the interpreters
I see this all the time in the news and it drives me crazy. I think most of these local news stations simply don't have the resources to hire someone. That's no excuse!
Yes, many people do think sign language is a joke. I would go so far as to say most people don't care about accessibility still. Why do you think the world is still so unfair and cruel? It's not because the majority of people are informed and caring that's for sure. We have a long way to go yet, a long way.
I'm so sorry this happend. I can feel the saddnes of your video and it's heart breaking. 😢
It's so crazy to me that the us doesn't have this type of inclusion and accesibility as a BASIC right. In my country they always have deaf people signing the news and festivals transmitted through tv and there are so many capacitation options that the only barrier is the people's indifference, but not the government's.
I really pray for every polititian and brainrot millionare's downfall so y'all can start having people with human empathy in the powerseats, I'll just have faith in God that things may change for good sooner than later.
sending my support from Chile💙💙
If we view the world through a shattered lens, everything we see will be broken. There are better ways to look at the world, and more productive ones. This TV show did not deny you access, they attempted to increase it. They may have failed at this, perhaps through ignorance and perhaps through lack of skill. Rather than rage against the unfairness of the world, why not try to see the good in it, that attempts are being made to reach out to other audiences, to make the world more accessible.
Steps in the right direction rarely come without backtracking, without mistakes, but at least there is movement forward. If you incinerate anyone that with good intention tries and fails to make an accommodation for you, why would they try again? "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by ignorance."
I'm not saying that you don't have a reason to be upset. Your disappointment is valid, but there is good here, even if you can't see it.
the person on the news 1) needs a license to do that and 2) if someone was translating, idk, bulgarian to you on tv but only said parts of the story so all you can understand is "dead.... car.... birds.... camera... no..... but.... yellow....." that wouldnt make sense, right? thats how it is. they cant understand it.
that's so fucked up, i can geel the pain in your voice it sucks that our society still isn't accessible enough for people with all kinds of disabilites, as an audhder im here for you!
As a college student learning ASL: I stand with you and your sadness lil sis. 😢
It's like someone who took 1 English class translating another language for us. Your anger is 100% justified, you can't be an interpreter if you're not fluent in the language.
This seems more like virtue signaling than any genuine attempt to provide accessibility. I wonder if this was just a spur of the moment thing, it seems like networks should know by now to vet their interpreters.
It seemed very intentional how she stood and how she was set up on the news bc typically interpreters are viewed on a little screen in a corner standing in a black shirt and signing
Your criticism is entirely justified, she clearly knows she isn't qualified and has 0 shame taking a pay check she didn't earn
That's heartbreaking!!! So frustrating that deaf people are still having to deal with that and so many other bizarre things!!!
i just filed a complaint with the department of justice given your comments in the description that this violates ADA. here's what i wrote:
"I believe that K-Cal News did not follow the guidelines for effective communication with Deaf and HOH individuals as outlined on the ADA website. On their broadcast in early June 2024, which was later uploaded to their CZcams channel on June 7th (i put the link here as well), they introduce someone as an "interpreter" for the segment. However, this person is clearly not someone who is qualified according to the standards set by the ADA above. They clearly don't sign everything the people speaking say and also clearly do not have a grasp on ASL grammar. To me and others, it appears to be someone who may have taken a few ASL classes, not someone who has been trained and certified. Additionally, the provided captions for the CZcams video are incorrect. This means that despite advertising this as an accessible broadcast, the Deaf and HOH communities are not able to access the content of this broadcast."