[1M] CSX Train Goes into Emergency with Two Scary Bangs, Hull - Auburn GA, 09/24/2015 ©mbmars01
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- čas přidán 23. 09. 2015
- It is a bit scary if you stand next to a train of big coal hoppers that speeds up and then goes into immediate emergency stop with two loud bangs. This happened to me today while watching an empty CSX coal hopper train leaving the siding in Hull Ga. The train had to be slow because of ongoing work in this section of the track, but this did not cause the emergency stop. It rather seemed to be an engine malfunction. The train then crawled to Athens Ga., where it had to let pass the northbound manifest CSX Q662-24, which is also featured in this video. Finally, I saw it last on its approach to Palmer Siding near Auburn Ga. much farther to the south. [© 2015 MBMARS Productions. Exclusive rights for CZcams channel "mbmars01" only.]
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I was surprised, how quick it came to a stop.
empty aluminum cars at slow speed
@@TheNemosdaddy but thinking how much that cars waste
@@abrahammatthewanandamarro4352 guess they should dispose of them, then wonder where replacements will come from.
Maybe, China. Oh wait, tariffs...
Do more with less, eventually dwindling down to nothing, locomotives patrol, looking for an aluminum car, fuel costs bankrupt the railroad, back to horses or sea.
If UHaul though that way, they'd no longer exist, beyond a local area.
They learned from the rail system.
As a hint, some cars can weigh 100 tons or more, loaded, do you really think it costs that much to shuttle them to where they can be refilled again?
Saftey at its finest
i know
2 bangs were slack action. Happens all the time. Usually, that means they broke a knuckle when it goes into emergency like this. That smoke you mention was the heat coming off the cars. Usual stuff. Nice video!
+waldwickperson Thank you! I really don't know what it was, but it was louder than what I've ever heard from any other train before.
If the engineer throws it in Notch 8, or full brake application (without going into emergency), the slack action can get pretty rough lol
+waldwickperson I understand. The only thing I wonder about is that the train was still accelerating when the 'bang' happened, and the braking came thereafter. Furthermore, there was no reason for an emergency braking, as far as I can tell (that an emergency braking was performed I learned from the communication between crew and dispatcher).
Ah ok. If it was on a grade, the tail end of the train probably caught up with the cars, and pushed them more than the engines pulling them
+waldwickperson
I wonder if any derailments have happened that way.
Unfortunately I can't think of any way to implement an easy to use (and reliable) safety system that would prevent that ... (plus it would require changing the braking effort ... so yeah if something goes wrong the brakes might not be strong enough to stop quickly enough in certain circumstances... lol)
Train crews are people too, they gotta eat like the rest of us..
+ElfNet Gaming Absolutely! ;)
that's right
Elfnet my man how's the server going?
Western PA Railfaner sup people ?
Local shortline has to merge with or cross the main line down in a nearby valley, train frequently held for extended periods, when they were down there, i'd bring 'em coffees, or if i got time, a bite to eat.
Cause of the stop? Driver dropped that fresh cup of hot coffee in his lap!! :D
Sounds like the lady at McDonalds. Who is he going to sue?
Robert Shaw III good joke. good joke.
oof
15:20 that’s a special engine! That’s the spirit of Cincinnati! CSX #5500
Yessir
Wonderful photography!
Thanks for posting.
+Prionel Cool, thank you. Glad you like it.
Go to 6:04 and watch the cars closely (affix your eye on one spot on the car, like a wheel, etc..) ... you can see them lurch forward when the bang is heard. That's slack :P
Benjamin Esposti true, but the first one was something else
First one was a broken coupler and the second was just slack action.
Benjamin Esposti yup
Dated, but yeah, lost slack, then slack tightening due to emergency.
But, some other speculation suggested a broken coupler, no, not enough slack to engage breaks, triggering emergency.
Looked more like a locomotive emergency and modes were switched until equipment could replace the failed unit, which would now be dead load.
There was a pause in traction, followed by a surge, triggering the first bang as slack was lost and regained before slack was regained, then enough loss of traction to give a lower bang of traction loss and train rammed into itself and engine at a lower speed.
A air hose burp wouldn't go anywhere near that, broken coupler would halt that part of the train, necessitate a jog down the train, jog back to replace a knuckle or subsidiary equipment that is user replaceable, then proceed onward.
More sever, you're talking about more weight than two men could be reasonably expected to carry for any properly decent sized consist, which would immobilize the train for a lengthy period of time.
Yeah if a knuckle broke then there would be too much tension on the air line hose and it would for sure break or snap meaning all pressure in the line would be lost resulting in (A the brakes be engaged due to the Loss in pressure but if you don't know that's just how train brakes work (the trains computer would have recognized the Lost pressure suddenly without the interference or input of a driver therefore putting it into emergency
And since the rear half is just kind of on its own after all that broke it would just slam into the back of the other car in front of it because the front half would be an emergency breaking
(GOD THAT WAS ALOT I NEED TO RUN MY MOUTH LESS)
When the second bang happened it sprung the engine/cars forward
Slack
The conversation to the dispatcher told me all I need to know. I used to work on that sub division as an engineer. There was no mechanical issue. That was full cya. Anyone who runs trains know exactly what happened but I dont wanna get that crew in trouble. They are good guys, they just had a lapse.
What was it then
@@josephschnoor315 lets just say... they were not supposed to go over 15 mph and able to stop in the half of range of vision... they were up to 25mph at one point and when they realized that.. they went to dynamics and the sudden run in of cars while going into dynamics really hard cause it to shoot the air. if you notice, the conductor told the dispatcher that they never got much more than 10mph. also... at the end, they are going into the siding of palmer yard which is where the Trainmaster (aka boss man) is stationed. you can hear him calling them to stop at the office. When they went into emergency, the Erad told on them and the speed was seen, which wasn't a big deal because it doesn't say what signal you had, but when the dispatcher was called and asked what signal they had, he had to tell the TM that they had permission by the red signal which ment restricted speed. So needless to say... they got ran off for speeding and after the download, they would have seen that the times do not match up from when they started moving after the emergency application and when they talked to the dispacther. He was supposed to tell them if its ok to move or not. they moved without asking so now they have 2 major violations against them. also, you can not go over 10mph after an emergency application until your entire train has cleared that area. there are so many rules that are in place that its easy to miss something especially when you are in a panic like they were. they were trying to hide it and hope that nothing was looked at in depth.
@@scottpurcell8833 oh ok. Thanks for replying
Scott, what does cya mean?
Cover your a$$.
Ah, I completely relate. That guy realized he forgot to get something to drink with his sandwich at the store. "HOLD IT! I can't eat with no water!" when you forget your drinks, you gotta go back. B)
Well that's definitely a possible plot for this story lol.
BTW, great video! The actual video quality is perfect, and you found some great angles to shoot.
-Cam
+railfan220 I'm glad you like it. Thanks!
Wow those bangs were huge. It rocked the entire train. Random thought, what if while the train was stopped you just saw a bunch of taggers run up to it and start painting while they had the chance xD
A. Thats common, it seems like it was slack. Ive been on trains that did worse stuff than that. Especially CSX, they can be janky.
B. Taggers find trains that are chilling in a spot all night, graffiti takes time, especially the good pieces.
Those people who tag trains like that could make a killing if they actually painted for a living
Engineer: Hey gimme a can of the Fanta I told you to get. Conductor: um..... Engineer: *Slams brake* GET YO BUTT BACK THERE NOW
Lol
😂😂😂
Asheville Trainman Fanta orange or grape?
Eastern Iowa Productions childish
LOL🤣🤣🤣
Awesome camera work. Getting up close and personal. Thanx mb!!
Many thanks. I appreciate your feedback!
How funny, I completely forgot some types of engines have an entry door at it's front?
And in those types of trains with the nose cabins like that is where the penitentiary style shitter ...........and emergency flares are 😆😆😆😋
Excellent footage. I love how you incorporate the audio from the scanner!
Thanks so much! I have the scanner typically close to me to avoid missing information while filming. So it's rather accidental that the chatter is in the video, but I also like it. It gives the videos a human touch.
mbmars01 yes it does give it that human touch. Plus it’s almost like we’re there. It makes the videos top shelf 👍
I went to google earth to find Hull siding. GE dropped me right on top of the Baptist church. 😂
I feel like I’m an honorary member because of all the times I’ve seen it in a mbmars01 video.
Lol, that's funny :) However, I have certainly railfanned less in Hull than I did years ago - at least on that spot at the south end of the siding, which is right next to the church.
From what I can gather from the radio communication, they were expecting to get permission to pass a stop signal. When they didn't get permission, they hit the dynamic, which caused the all-at-once slack action (bangs). Or the dynamic was activated for them. The dispatcher was asking if it came back up afterward. Then he told them to "keep on movin' according to the rules."
Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but it makes sense.
The radio communication in question is at 8:45.
+Patrick Lunceford That may make perfect sense. When filming, I can't pay much attention to the chatter on the radio and in the hindsight I wasn't really sure about it (I'm not an expert, don't know the procedures and rules). Thanks for trying to figure it out!
Yup. They said they had to hit dynamic when they didn't get permission at the stop signal. Listen closely
Look for the comment from Scott Purcell. He sums it up similarly to this, as I believe he mentions that he used to work this line. Good observation, though!
4:39 the humming the cars do is very soothing and the bearings rotating is satisfying to watch.
Lol
XD
This seems to happen to GEs in sets higher than two, it always seems to kick on the emergency brake, never seen it happen as frequently on EMDs, not saying ones better but it's always GE from U-boats to GEVOs
For some reason, After working all day. These train videos Iv stumbled upon make it easy to decompress from a 6 day work week.
I know what you mean. That's probably the reason why I enjoy the hobby this much. It frees one's mind from the daily troubles.
mbmars01
Call me weird but trains move like majestic elephants, So big can be real quiet at times.
Love when you take pictures of the trucks and the track
I also like to see such details.
I will say it again great vid great comments and you are an excellent cameraman mbmars01 I love your work
Many thanks. I really appreciate your nice feedback.
AWESOME VIDEO BRO!!! Those BANGS were scary, but the bangs were the couplers I think. All I can say is wow. This video, in case you're wondering on how I found this video, came up on my recommended slot.
Thank you very much. Yep, that's definitely interesting to know how people find my videos. Now that you found the channel - there are 250 more videos that you might like :)
mbmars01 Bro, I've been with your channel for a while. I subscribe you
Awesome, thanks!
Standard Gauge Railroader the first bang was likely from the slack that caused the initial emergency; prolly got a knuckle with that. That second bang was simply the front half of the separated train stopped quicker than the rear therefore slamming into the front section. That's what I gathered from it
Nice video! It was like getting a day of rail fanning in with out leveeing the shop. It was a slow day and not a customer in the place most of the day. Thanks :)
+SleeTheSloth Haha, I like it. I have many more videos on my channel for more slow days lol.
Stuff like this makes you rethink standing close to the tracks while a train comes by, especially at speed.
One should always have an escape route in case of an emergency... In this case, there was no dangerous situation.
@@mbmars01 train at speed, things go *seriously* sideways, like derailment of laden hopper cars and assorted other projectile generators, escape had better be by rocket, if one is close, as in rock throwing distance close.
Nice video I love how you caught the spirit of Cincinnati!!!!!
+kevin butler Haha, do you know what? I haven't even noticed it yet. I was so much concerned with the emergency train that I didn't pay much attention to Q662. You're right! I'm happy I caught it! Thanks for pointing this out.
+mbmars01 those bangs were loud what happened
+kevin butler Well, I don't know. I heard these bangs, then saw blue smoke in the distance about a mile away. I walked straight there (my car was on the other side of the train that blocked the crossing!), but when I arrived near the engines, the train started slowly moving again. Inspecting the outside of the engines when I met the train later again, I didn't see anything suspicious. Since I saw blue smoke initially after the bangs, it might have been burning lube oil that caused a blow (in the turbo charger?), but I didn't see any fire.
+kevin butler What is the spirit of Cincinnati?
csx 5500
At 15:25 did anyone notice the spirit of Cincinnati was the second unit?
Yeah!
jus' bunching up threw the slack....
same as when they take off fast... thats even louder.
Damn that bang must of been terrifying
Especially if it were me by that train because I get really nervous around trains
The bangs were very loud. They were indeed terrifying as I didn't know what was going on.
11:05 you don’t want something falling ...
Remenber for every 10 trucks there is one meter play between the buffers for example 50 trucks = 5 meter play when the train is bundled
'Twas Doc Brown throwing in the presto logs
Lol
OMG! They always bang like that in an emergency stop. Heard it all my life.
Hope you aren't deaf now because of these loud bangs lol.
@@mbmars01 eh? What'd you say? ;)
That was a really fast emergency stop as far as trains go.
5:50 everyone.... And it's just a low thud...
Mat Helm that aint no low thud tf
Victor Right? Sounded like an explosion lol
Thanks
no that was pretty freakin loud.
camera did that zero justice, that thud would have been louder then all hell in person, i use to work next to a railroad (my shop garage door was about 50 feet at most from the tracks) and had a train do an emergency stop like that, it was mid summer and the shop doors were wide open, i literally ran the other direction thinking the train was about to derail
Slack action on the coupler that grade was 5 percent down and 5 percent up u will get that loud bang especially when your not loaded the cars were empty by the sound keep your vids coming love watching them
It never gets old!
Yep, it never does.
Sure miss seeing the caboose bringing up the rear.
You got that right friend
THANK YOU SO MUCH for this excellent quality railroad video!!! Please, what camera did you use and what editing software/program/App did you use? I LOVE the narration in blue text! Excellent to set off the text! (( can you leave it reysed up a little longer...please and thank you. The text is non-intrusive and you get tied up looking at train detail and sometimes dont see the text come on till too late to read it all. Don't think for a second that I'm complaining, for I'm not. Just requesting. I get into looking at detail, especially on the loco's, and forget to watch for narration)) I've been in, on, under, and up inside just about every part of the electrical part of just about all of the GE and GM-EMD Locos in a carrer almost 40 years long...I still get a warm spot in my heart, when I recognize an engine number I've fixed something on! Please keep on railfanning and be safe!
Thank you very much for your feedback! I appreciate it. The footage for this video was filmed with a Panasonic HC-V550 camcorder. Editing was done with iMovie. Nowadays I use a WXF1 camcorder by Panasonic and Final Cut Pro X for editing. I'll keep your suggestion in mind. Great you like the video and style!
At 6:20 you can see Maintenance of Way has a warning board set up. From the radio traffic, train didn't get permission in time to enter the work order (Rule 707). Everything else was slack from breaking to hard.
wrong
joey branan What was wrong Joey. Sounds like the gentlemen knows what he's talking about by what he's written....Your reply is just plain NON-SUPPORTIVE OF ITS SELF REASONING! SO YOU'RE "WRONG!"
Ive seen trains stop here and walk down to the subway that's close to the tracks, they also used to stop the train in the amusement park and get food from the restaurants there too
this train went into emergency quicker than i have ever seen
Cool video!
Thanks!
I saw a train stop for a malt at DQ!! A guy came blasting out of dairy queen booking across the highway as fast as he could go and hopped up into the waiting train....was a funny sight.
I just saw a BNSF train park next to a Church's chicken in Cameron TX. Pretty odd
@@Just22Jas33 I suppose those dudes gotta get their fast food fix too at times! Lol
Really good video!
Cool, thanks!
what is the gray box with the solar panel beside the tracks?whats that for?
I LOVE Your videos
That's great!
@ 16:26 is that a CN boxcar tied into Q662? Boy he's a long way from home. By the way cracking video thanks for shooting and sharing it.
Yes, this is not unusual. You'll find railcars of all kinds of railroads distributed throughout the entire continent. Thanks, I'm glad you like it.
Did the crew forget about the form B ahead and put the train in emergency?
Yes. That is what I think happened. He passed the yellow red board then he big holes his train. Skack action was the second bang. Then you can hear him get clearance on the radio. In my opinion.
That first bang was so loud! I jumped when I first heard it... maybe because my volume is always cranked up
It was scary standing right next to the train when this happened lol
How long did it take the train to clear these section of the tracks? Where it went to emergency braking?
Nice video! Few days ago i drive locomotive like this in Train Sim World 2020))
Thanks! Cool.
Wow, we don't get trains that long out in my neck of the woods, that's for sure! If a freight train has 15 cars here, it's a long one!
+John's Train Videos So you live near a branch line? That's cool, too. I really like short trains.
No I live near Boston, where freight trains are all but extinct, and if it's not an active commuter rail route, it's abandoned :-/
All I get are 150-210 car long manifests, with about a quarter of them autoracks.
Have had it here in Canada where a crew dial in wrong FRED or SBU number do a emergency air test and dynamite another train in close proximity but most likely a kicker account defective portions.
No broken knuckle, no broken air, though the conductor does mention "dynamic" in radio conversation t around 8:50 mark. It sounds like dynamic braking kicked in, reset and released. First bang, dynamic engaged, second when dynamic released and slack taken back up.
kenmelrac What may have caused the smoke?
First bang occurred when a locomotive dynamic brakes kicked in slowing the one locomotive but not the cars (slack in knuckles). Second bang occurred when dynamics released (see blended braking). Once the dynamic brakes released, the governor would dump fuel to speed the engine back up to the throttle setting, while the engineer was likely taking the throttle to idle. Smoke could possibly be excess fuel or even dust shaken loose from all the slack action.
By the radio transmissions, either a traction motor, or a complete engine shut down, then came back up. The first bang would be cutting out, and the second would be cutting back in.
I believe the bangs are the slack in the gondola couplings being crushed together.
Nice dramatic catches! Busy tracks!
Those were the good old times still. It's not as busy anymore, unfortunately.
CSX once yanked the coupler box out of a coil car in Michigan.
Beautiful ES44AH's......
I prefer the ge ac4400cw dash-9
This happened on my sub down here in Texas. KCS de Mexico with BNSF trailing had a unit train of fracking sand and they were at speed and the same damn thing happened. I thought they hit something at first and then they just puttered away, 10 minutes later.
Were the hoppers loaded or empty?
mbmars01 Empty. They were on their way to a quarry to get loaded.
The American Railfan
That's what I thought and why I asked. The slack effect is much more impressive if the hoppers are empty and amplify the sound by resonance.
I think it hit a penny on the tracks, or maybe it was a nickel which explains the loud banging. Those nickels are kind of thick.
Uh no I think an air hose popped and the bang was slack in the couplers when the cars shoved forwards due to the rear weight pushing the front trying to stop.
Nah, a nickel would have derailed the whole thing...
brettwrb not true
@@joeleewoods1382 Are you sure? 🙄
brettwrb There’s no way. A single locomotive weighs wayyyyy too much for a coin to affect it, much less a full train. You can always try it for yourself next time your near one though. It’s pretty fun actually
Why are there 2 air lines between the cars? Or is it one brake line and another line to operate the bottom dump doors? Just curious. You can see the lines well at 4:41
+bearbon2 Sorry, I don't know the answer.
Man they hauled that down to a stop quick....
Just slack running in is all. You can even see it the second time. Retired BN.
Yup. Slack action. It dumped towards the front of the train which caused the rear end to run in.
Empties are notoriously loud when it comes to slack action.
A train driver stopping at a car gas station to pick up a snack? Didn't know they could do that 😂
That's cool
Lol, I have seen this on other occasions as well. Not unusual, apparently, but somewhat puzzling.
I've seen a local that was doing drop offs stop and get some barbeque at a restaurant that was next to the tracks.
This is the best part : )
engine malfunction that i heard was a pcs malfuction with that locomotive once it reached the switch
BullDAWG053 love the hat, I have same one! My uncle that passed away gave it to me when I was little
I noticed as the second bang happened, the train got pushed a little
I felt those bangs all the way up here in Pa LOL. Did you check your shorts? LOLOL great video...
Haha, there was definitely no problem on that side 😂
What aspect is the lower one at 19:13 ? Green or white? Since there are only two, it has to be interpreted as there was a third red one at the bottom. Thus the signal reads medium clear, no?
My mistake. Doesn't seem like CROR has that kind of signal, only US.
That's indeed white. It means the train can pass by the red signal at restricted speed (restricted speed is sufficiently slow so that the engineer can stop the train immediately without performing an emergency braking). It typically means that another train is right ahead of him on the same track in the same block.
What was the significance of the small lightning bolt below the cab of the first engine?
I'm new to rail fan stuff, so I hope I remember this correctly. One of my railfan friends explained it to me as a CSX specific way of denoting engines with AC electric traction. Most trains tend to be DC electric powered, and the ones with the lightning bolt are the AC Electric powertrain Locomotives. I've heard this is mostly to help ground crews when building engine consists. Hope this helps.
That stop much faster than I thought they could stop.
... but only because it was all empties.
@@mbmars01 Those cars weigh a lot even empty.
Every day and night I wach your video's
That's awesome! I'm happy you enjoy the videos on this channel :)
Didn't the conductor have to dismount and make a walking inspection of both sides of the train?
I love your video's
Cool, thanks!
Even though you have a warning when the bug bangs were going to happen, i think i still shited in my pants! That scary! Was it even louder in person, and what caused it?
+MrCsxtrain Haha, I love your comment! Yes, it was WAY louder and I was scared! This wall of steel in front of me and then these bangs and sudden stop. I don't know the reason why this happened; pls see what others comment here. There is certainly lots of truth in it.
mbmars01 Lol okay thanks!
+MrCsxtrain
You "think" you did?.. LOL XDDD
Benjamin Esposti LOL
European trains don't do that.....
What model was the lead loco?
At first the train is hold at normal speed in till the bang! (Sound like a air line gave.) the 2nd once can't be explained the bangs sound the same. It could be a coupler broke and then the air lines broke.
I thought I heard something about passing a red signal, maybe that caused the stop??
That’s what I heard! Something about passing a red signal and automatically the braking system activated
What happened ?
Where can one go for winder ga I love watching trains I grew up in Tucker ga. You ever in winder?
Winder has many places where one can see the track, mostly from parking lots of businesses. The central crossing at the depot is a good spot, too. I'm occasionally in Winder, but not very often. It's not so close to where I live and the traffic layout is simply bad. It's easy to "lose" a train in Winder.
You can find trains going the train between winder and Athens and Athens to Elberton and Athens to Gainesville
In the mid sixties I used to go up to Winder from Valdosta to pick up 12’x60’ mobile homes and haul em back to Valdosta. Part time work for me. I was in USAF. I think Winder was a Confederate general in civil war. Off topic but great train video. Thanks.
It looks like the second bang pushed the train forward... Mabry the train came uncoupled and once the train was slowing and rammed into the rear but no crew came to inspect
How often CSX do maintenance on these trains?
I....Oh! Yikes that didnt sound good... Great catch :)
Thank you.
Did he break a knuckle or was it just a kicker that caused the emergency application?
+TheAdamRides No, a knuckle didn't break. I don't know why it went into emergency.
That locomotive looks brand new
Slack sounds like an artillery round? Or is the mic just making it sound worse than it is?
No, I still think the first bang was more than just slack.
That’s strange they have it set up where the siding blocks the grade.
Nice job I had that same engine when i was in Shenandoah junction WV on Monday October 3rd trailing on a coal train eastbound
Nice, it seems this engine is condemned to haul coal trains lol
mbmars01 Yeah Hey I did trains in Shenandoah Junction my video didn't get to well due to the weather is there any way you have a good 20 minute video of csx trains going through Shenandoah junction I will give you the credit for the video
No, I haven't yet been there.
mbmars01 well do you have some good videos of csx trains at other places man
All my about 200 videos with CSX trains are on my channel.
WoW, Just after the second Bang the whole train lunges , watch the hoses in-between cars, they're steady until that bang and then they start swinging so apparently the whole train is shook by it.
May I ask what do you film with?
I use the Panasonic camcorder HC-V550.
The 2nd bang forced the train forwards .-.
Sounds like double slack.
Hello. Interesting video. I came and subscribed with a bell. Thank you. 👍😊🇨🇦
That's awesome, thanks!
Very long coal trains come to where to the power station in my area. They are so long that they are often broken into segments to park the segments side by side and there are still really long trains stopped before the entry to the power station. But I have heard this is very normal. After all 70% of electricity is made with coal fired steam turbines turning enormous generators.
Although the answer may vary depending upon the who owns the tracks and also which company is running the cargo.
Anyone know of any policies regarding photographing of trains in general? Anyone ever run into many major issues?
It is allowed to photograph trains from public ground. Don't trespass or get too close to the track, though. And yes, someone who takes pictures of trains is always considered a suspicious subject. Be prepared that worried residents call the police. The cops - even if they find it ridiculous by themselves - are supposed to check your ID. Don't hang out for too long in one place, particularly near intermodal yards.
As a railroader who is tolerant of photographers I concur with your advice. Don't trespass. Even if you are on public property but 'appear' to be trespassing, back off a bit. Police may not be legally able to ask for ids but just be polite, explain you are a hobbyist and be prepared to calmly discuss your rights. Intermodal yards, ports and chemical plants are areas I would try to avoid. They're boring anyway. You might even consider wearing a safety vest with bright colors. Try not to do anything that would make railroad operations 'uneasy' We've all encountered railfans who will take dangerous chances for that perfect shot and it makes some nervous. Also be aware that some railfans like "Millenium Force" give the rest of you guys bad reps with crews. They feel like they're under a microscope and likely to be on CZcams and second guessed by people who don't know wtf they're talking about. Have fun!
mhm that is really scary hope the train drivers are ok
Hi, how do you get the audio from the engines? Is it from a scanner? Would love to know. Thanks!
Yes, I use a scanner to keep me updated about what's going on. It's a Uniden BC125AT.
@@mbmars01 Thank you!
@@mbmars01 if I can bother you with one more question? I looked up the scanner you have and saw it's portable. We have an old table top model, I guess you would call it. With the portable one, how close do you have to be? We live about a short block away from the UP freight and Metra lines in the Chicagoland area. Would it work from our house or do you have to be right up by the tracks? My dad is really excited about this. I appreciate any info 😊
It depends on many factors. One important aspect to consider is the antenna. On my handheld I use a Smiley antenna, which I'm not particularly happy with. I can hear train calls from 1-5 miles, depending on terrain (weather, forest, curves, hills). I also have a stationary Uniden scanner at home which reaches up to 10 miles, depending on weather.
@@mbmars01 very helpful! Thank you!
Nice catch on heritage unit 5500
Thanks 😊