A powerful, nonpartisan solution to fix U.S. Politics | Katherine M. Gehl | TEDxMileHigh

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  • Our political system in America is broken, right? Wrong. This is exactly how the system is designed to work -- it just wasn’t designed to work for us, the American people. In this inspiring talk, nonpartisan political innovator Katherine M. Gehl explains how we can reinvent our elections & get better results out of Washington. Katherine M. Gehl is the founder of The Institute for Political Innovation, a nonpartisan nonprofit founded in 2020 to catalyze modern political change in America. She is the former president and CEO of Gehl Foods, a $250-million high-tech food-manufacturing company that she sold in 2015. In the public sector, Katherine served on the Board of the Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC). In 2020, she published The Politics Industry: How Political Innovation Can Break Partisan Gridlock and Save Our Democracy. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

Komentáře • 442

  • @michaelfoxbrass
    @michaelfoxbrass Před 3 lety +51

    Spot on. It’s their game. We aren’t on the field.

  • @decathec
    @decathec Před 3 lety +48

    "Until power changes the kind of people attracted to it won't." I don't know who said it but its fitting.

    • @francocinelli7369
      @francocinelli7369 Před 3 lety +5

      JIM MORRISON?---------WHEN TH POWER OF LOV OVERTAKES TH LOV OF POWER,,,,,,,,,,,,,ISH,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,PARAFRAZING HERE

    • @poocrayon4588
      @poocrayon4588 Před 3 lety

      Which will be never

    • @decathec
      @decathec Před 3 lety +1

      @@poocrayon4588 not with that attitude

    • @darrylcarter8517
      @darrylcarter8517 Před rokem

      @@poocrayon4588 Our Constitution has been amended 27 times. MI and CA have established truly empowered and independent redistricting commissions. AK has Top Four primaries. ME has incorporated R.C.V. in all elections. Embrace not, the ease of dismissive cynicism.

  • @iAmMattN
    @iAmMattN Před 3 lety +10

    I saw Katherine Gehl on YangSpeaks several weeks ago. Her work has been on my mind since.

  • @AKINHOCA
    @AKINHOCA Před 3 lety +44

    That was thoroughly interesting. The changes she’s proposing sound appealing and achievable

  • @brettneuberger6466
    @brettneuberger6466 Před 3 lety +36

    I’m liking the sound of this. Very cool that Alaska adopted it. Anyone know how it’s being introduced to other states?

    • @aylbdrmadison1051
      @aylbdrmadison1051 Před 3 lety +14

      I believe I heard something about Colorado maybe adopting it too. Sounds like this, or something similar is going to happen whether politicians want it to or not. I sure hope so, because a two party system is a system designed to purposefully fail The People.

  • @WolfetoneRebel1916
    @WolfetoneRebel1916 Před 3 lety +26

    Greetings from Ireland. This system works really well here. The parties we have may not be great but the system of electing them is.

    • @grauerHase
      @grauerHase Před 3 lety +5

      Reading up on Ireland is where I first learned about ranked choice voting 🙂 we have a lot to learn from you guys!

  • @butterchuggins5409
    @butterchuggins5409 Před 3 lety +11

    Why don't politicians have to pass a test to do that job? We make soldiers, doctors, nurses, lawyers, teachers, truck drivers, contractors and mechanics pass tests. It seems crazy to not have the same policy for leaders.

    • @adlsfreund
      @adlsfreund Před 3 lety +2

      Getting elected is aruably that test.

    • @mi5tafreeman
      @mi5tafreeman Před 3 lety +2

      @@adlsfreund No it isn't.

    • @chrislong1287
      @chrislong1287 Před 3 lety +2

      @@mi5tafreeman yes, it is essentially a resume review

    • @butterchuggins5409
      @butterchuggins5409 Před 3 lety +1

      If you think a propaganda laced popularity contest is a sufficient test for control of the most deadly military on earth, then yeah, I guess you're right.

    • @butterchuggins5409
      @butterchuggins5409 Před 3 lety +1

      Do you really think Joe Biden or Donald Trump would pass an 8th grade civics test? I have my doubts.

  • @hamryalasad
    @hamryalasad Před 3 lety +29

    This is the smartest ted talk about politics I’ve heart if not the only one

  • @HitomiNoRyu
    @HitomiNoRyu Před 3 lety +71

    ...I want the universe this lady is talking about SO BAD right now!

  • @tomascalvo8
    @tomascalvo8 Před 3 lety +7

    I appreciate the way she speaks slowly and clearly.

  • @penneyburgess5431
    @penneyburgess5431 Před 3 lety +3

    I did vote for the Libertarian candidate in 2016.😁 I am enormously aggravated with the political system. It is particularly frustrating to get any information about any candidate other than the lead Democrat or Republican. Major channels only allow the top two candidates in any public debate, not the top candidate from every party. I believe unless this changes, well that and the standards for journalism in America, we will be returning to this problem. Other parties do have different solutions but are never given the equal opportunity as Republican and Democrat candidates. There is a serious bias for a two party system across the board.
    This was good to hear. People act so surprised when I argue that our founding fathers never approved of a party system. I didn’t know about this constitutional state right. It’s good to know. Thank you.

    • @darrylcarter8517
      @darrylcarter8517 Před rokem

      Johnson-Weld was my choice also, in 2016. BUT, Top Four and Top Five primaries apply to NON-Presidential offices. Fixing Presidential elections is a separate can of worms.

  • @TheStolken
    @TheStolken Před 3 lety +7

    I applied to help get this implemented in my state. I'm tired of being politically homeless and I want to support anyone I can. Would love to see America's 2 party system demolished, even if it's at a start of local level with house and senate.

  • @amy_.joanne
    @amy_.joanne Před 3 lety +5

    This video gives me so much hope

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  • @kathysahagian7478
    @kathysahagian7478 Před 3 lety +5

    Yes I heard Maine is doing this also. I have wanted this since we called it first choice, second choice (10 years of so?).

  • @bobandbarbpavlik8118
    @bobandbarbpavlik8118 Před 3 lety +5

    Like the idea! Ms. Gehl, you have $ and power. I hope you, and others like you, can make enough noise to force this change on our corrupt, adulterated political system!

  • @ChevronTango
    @ChevronTango Před 3 lety +11

    Several months ago we saw as Hong Kong rose up in protest when their democracy was hijacked by a political elite who chose the candidates that they got to vote for. We condemned Beijing as abhorrent and anti-democratic and waves of support flooded in to the people of Hong Kong. Meanwhile the political elite of the US were choosing which candidates were going into the primaries, and which would then go on to be the presidential candidate. The people didn't get a say in that, the party insiders decided because it was in their best interest.

    • @darrylcarter8517
      @darrylcarter8517 Před rokem

      Disapproval of our chaotic Presidential candidate selection process is certainly in order, but it is NOT "elites" who make up the residential primaries and caucuses Electorate.

  • @JCPhantomX
    @JCPhantomX Před 3 lety +20

    We need to make this video hit the top trends. Election system overhaul is long overdue in modern society in the US.

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      @mikedantonio2971 Před 3 lety

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  • @peteg6118
    @peteg6118 Před rokem +4

    A great idea that can be implemented. We need it bad in this nation. Thank you.

  • @wandalee5010
    @wandalee5010 Před 3 lety +4

    This woman is Brilliant!!!!

  • @adelkorkor1472
    @adelkorkor1472 Před 3 lety +6

    Thank you for bringing such a simple, elegant and practical approach to politics in government. I am all in.

  • @Zonkotron
    @Zonkotron Před 3 lety +5

    In Germany we have pretty much what she suggests (not final five but a sytem with two votes and popular vote as decisive factor...similar results). Now of course there is a lot of BS in German politics as well (thought probably very different from what international news and disgruntled citizens would tell ya) and i can confirm...better system. We always have 3+ parties in the federal assembly and our politics are just so much more moderate than what i regularly see in the US. Talking about stuff like the socialist party actually rolling back excessive welfare 20 years ago and the conservative party accepting environmental science and the need to clean up our industries. Fantastic really, all current problems notwithstanding (mainly that currently the left leaning votes are spread on more parties (which do not agree on all issues....) than the right leaning votes, giving an undue bias to conservative politics - which in turn is not a huuuge problem because our conservatives are a lot less redical than in other countries).

  • @outlier.mp3
    @outlier.mp3 Před 3 lety +24

    YES! RANKED-CHOICE VOTING IS THE FUTURE!!!!!!! :) great talk :)

  • @whatisrealknowtheformula6137

    All states should do this. This isn’t a new idea. And even the plebes can see we need a change. BTW, to clarify your example, show ‘results’ for all candidates all the way through.

  • @ericreingardt2504
    @ericreingardt2504 Před 3 lety +40

    Why does no one talk about how important voter education is

    • @godsbeautifulflatearth
      @godsbeautifulflatearth Před 3 lety +11

      An educated public is dangerous to the government. They want us to be uninformed and easily manipulated by emotions not facts.

    • @andl8521
      @andl8521 Před 3 lety +6

      @@godsbeautifulflatearth that’s true. The system is corrupt and the government is broken. Everything is a conspiracy and all government workers have our worst interests in mind.

    • @poocrayon4588
      @poocrayon4588 Před 3 lety

      Yeah but the problem is that right now means liberal re-education

  • @traceh4693
    @traceh4693 Před 3 lety +4

    I once asked a couple "bipartisan" state legislators that stopped by my community college a very direct question. I asked "When you vote on a bill, do you vote based on how you think the majority of your state citizens would vote, or how you would personally vote on the bill?" I was essentially asking them if they prioritize the will of the voters over their lobbyists. Unfortunately both of these supposed "middle of the aisle" representatives agreed they vote on bills based on their own ideals rather than the ideals of the voters. I later wrote a very rushed essay for my polisci course along the lines of this ted talk, stating that because of the current two party political system, our democracy has been defined by fixed elections and trapped legislatures since George Washington's warnings and without a diversification in DC, our government will never catch up to its people.

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    • @adamdunne6645
      @adamdunne6645 Před 3 lety +2

      They were elected because of their beliefs, why would they change that because someone disagrees?

    • @traceh4693
      @traceh4693 Před 3 lety +2

      @@adamdunne6645 well because the electoral process forces them to be the most electable not the best representative of the people. Rewatch the video, its about how elections trap politcians into two highly radical oppositional ideals, and if they want to stay in power they have to avoid the middle, instead of listening to the majority of moderate citizens

    • @adamdunne6645
      @adamdunne6645 Před 3 lety

      @@traceh4693 isn't the point to be representative of your views, because that's what makes you electable in the first place? Then you have to make some compromises to be electable. Maybe I'm missing something

    • @traceh4693
      @traceh4693 Před 3 lety

      @@adamdunne6645 i believe the thing your missing is the discomnect between how they get elected and how the people who elect them believe. Most people are moderate, but most representatives need to vote radically and partisan to ensure their lobbyists relect them

  • @aylbdrmadison1051
    @aylbdrmadison1051 Před 3 lety +61

    Just hold the government, media, and corporations accountable for the lies they tell.

    • @allhonesty848
      @allhonesty848 Před 3 lety +4

      lol, sure. while we're at it, lets eat snickers bars and poop gold. news media has admitted the government pays them to report some news topics and not others. can't trust any of them anymore...too much damn money involved.

    • @sdasda7777
      @sdasda7777 Před 3 lety +6

      @@allhonesty848 It works in Europe. Only thing needed for a change is that enough people want the change.

    • @tenminutetokyo2643
      @tenminutetokyo2643 Před 3 lety

      And just who is going to do that?

    • @poocrayon4588
      @poocrayon4588 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah but to some pp that just means - hold the right wing accountable and accept the far left version of "truth" as told by the likes of AOC

    • @kathysahagian7478
      @kathysahagian7478 Před 3 lety

      We can't do that without some power

  • @dropclutch1
    @dropclutch1 Před 3 lety +8

    I would love for us to try this!

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      @mikedantonio2971 Před 3 lety +1

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  • @chaqillenikita748
    @chaqillenikita748 Před 3 lety +25

    That was thoroughly interesting. The changes she’s proposing sound appealing and achievable 👍🏼.

    • @xPURPLExKILLERx
      @xPURPLExKILLERx Před 3 lety +1

      WHY IS THIS COMMENT BEING COPY PASTED EVERYWHERE IN THIS VIDEO?

    • @chaqillenikita748
      @chaqillenikita748 Před 3 lety

      xPURPLExKILLERx - that’s what I’d like to know! I wrote the bloody thing, and now everyone’s copying me 🤦🏻‍♂️.
      They say that imitation is the highest form of flattery, but THIS is crazy 🙄.

  • @alumpyhorse
    @alumpyhorse Před 3 lety +4

    this is wonderful. is there a movement to get this going? I would sign up. I want this!

  • @decathec
    @decathec Před 3 lety +21

    End the red/blue dichotomy. We don't need them.

    • @matthewmayuiers
      @matthewmayuiers Před 3 lety +6

      Exactly, 2 party system is literally designed to creat this sort of chaos

  • @Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733

    Yeah it’s called a multi-party system. Multi as in more than two.

  • @kristylynn1329
    @kristylynn1329 Před 3 lety +7

    Thank you so much! This shines true ✨

  • @MotorcyclingMusicAcrossAmerica

    This makes me glad to be alive in this generation. I haven't felt that in awhile. Thank you.

  • @Giovanni.Tedeschini
    @Giovanni.Tedeschini Před 3 lety +4

    Great video, thank you for sharing, very interesting.

  • @iAmMattN
    @iAmMattN Před 3 lety +8

    I implore everyone who watches this to watch it all the way through multiple times.. let it sink in. She talks slowly for a reason. We have to change how we've been conditioned to think about these things. Remember, it's in OUR hands to understand this information and then mobilize and amplify the message. We have the power to do this.. many of us just haven't realized it yet.
    Start with the realization that Alaska has heard her call and taken it to heart. Other places in the states are moving towards a version of ranked choice voting.
    It takes many of us working hard to get these things into public awareness and then actualize into reality. WE are the answer. We can't sit back and hope other people will do it for us. If you're watching this, YOU are being called to the battle lines. YOU are what we need. Let's get to work being the citizens our country needs!

  • @__Andrew_
    @__Andrew_ Před 8 měsíci +1

    Blissfully free of background music
    Thankyou for having the sense to know that a clear message and good presentation stand perfectly well absent from distracting effects and cheap overbearing music.

  • @alisonsnow7676
    @alisonsnow7676 Před 9 měsíci +1

    That concept is so logical and reasonable and ethical - it's hard to find any of those 3 characteristics in our political system today. I'm absolutely disgusted with what just transpired in my state, North Carolina. The state just passed a bill designating partisan elections for only my county, Madison. So I now live in a county that is less democratic than it was only one week ago. That may seem par for the course, but it feels worse now that I've listened to your improved method for fairer elections.

  • @lynnrussell467
    @lynnrussell467 Před 3 lety +3

    The inherent error in 2 parties is the LIMITING OF CHOICE! There is always ALWAYS more choices than 2 options to solve any problem or resolve any issue. It is the nature of creativity to offer more.... 2 Parties is shortchanging system, like shooting ourselves in the feet, making it difficult to walk :-(

  • @tjworld6650
    @tjworld6650 Před 3 lety +7

    Politics should be: for the people....with the people....through the people. It should never be about earning money and misusuing leadership. This would destroy the fundamental meaning of politics. We are responsible to preserve that precious meaning. So please cooperate..!!!🙂👍

  • @stevenjudd2383
    @stevenjudd2383 Před 3 lety +13

    I like how she described it as an instant runoff. That is the best explanation I've heard so far.

  • @WDRohls
    @WDRohls Před 3 lety +4

    I would like to ask because I am not entirely clear on how this would eliminate or reduce Billion dollar influence on any respective person running for a position? Levels the playing field, but not the outside influence. Tnx.

    • @Rockettman
      @Rockettman Před 2 lety +2

      That's a separate issue that is also worthy of discussion, but not the focus of Gehl & Porter. The final-five open primary would tend to advance more centrist candidates who have to appeal to a broader portion of the population than just the wealthy and business classes, though, so it would be a step in the right direction for improving big-money influence in politics. Campaign finance reform would be another step toward that end.

  • @jackmolesworth5863
    @jackmolesworth5863 Před 3 lety +4

    Glad to hear talk about the real issue (plurality voting) getting out there. I agree on getting rid of primaries, but RCV is plurality voting. It uses the same one-candidate-one-voter system as plurality and creates all the same problems: polarization, gridlock, gerrymandering (just look at San Francisco). I would offer that any score voting system election (approval, STAR voting, &c) would push all candidates toward the center-majority and would identify the most desired candidate of the voters without a need for any final five or other election runoff required.

    • @eyescreamcake
      @eyescreamcake Před 2 lety +2

      Sad that your comment is buried under all these people who just believe everything they see in CZcams videos.

    • @darrylcarter8517
      @darrylcarter8517 Před rokem

      @@eyescreamcake Supporting the AK Top Four primary with R.C.V. in the General has nothing to do with "believing everything" from ANY particular source.

    • @darrylcarter8517
      @darrylcarter8517 Před rokem

      Ms. Gehl did NOT propose "getting rid of primaries". Her "Top Five" proposal, and AK's "Top Four", RETAIN primaries. What both rid us of, are PARTISAN primaries and their concomitant General Election Ballot Access protection for the Duopoly.

    • @eyescreamcake
      @eyescreamcake Před rokem

      @@darrylcarter8517 Unfortunately, most people who support Top Four or Final Five misunderstand how it actually works. There is a lot of misinformation spread on the web by groups like FairVote that mislead people into thinking that RCV does more than it actually does. RCV is only a marginal improvement over our current system, it doesn't make it safe to vote honestly and it doesn't fix polarization or the two-party system.

  • @forisma
    @forisma Před 3 lety +4

    Great suggestions. These improvements are needed.

  • @sameer.bhardwaj7585
    @sameer.bhardwaj7585 Před 3 lety +9

    This channel are losing views
    😭
    Don't know why
    Content is just great❤️

    • @enoch7thadam1st2
      @enoch7thadam1st2 Před 3 lety

      yes here is your answer!

    • @aylbdrmadison1051
      @aylbdrmadison1051 Před 3 lety +4

      It's because Tedx allows the trolls to drive off their viewers. You know, because the trolls will cry bigly tears if they aren't allowed to _freely_ mistreat others.
      I mean, how can you be free if you have to consider the freedom of others? (

    • @terreausore2435
      @terreausore2435 Před 3 lety +1

      It's losing views because 1) some of us are bored of political subjects 2) because the quality is decreasing over time.

    • @poocrayon4588
      @poocrayon4588 Před 3 lety

      Too much of the same content over and over. Too much man bashing feminism in other videos. And just a general very niche far left bent.

  • @xaviorperez6096
    @xaviorperez6096 Před 3 lety +4

    America needs this ASAP. What happened to the “United” in our country’s name 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @captaincodebook3200
      @captaincodebook3200 Před 3 lety

      We are not united but Balkanized. There is the west coast, east coast from Boston to DC and 100 miles inland, Texas and the rest of the country.
      I say let's split up. Can't treat and compromise with people you don't consider followers of American ideals.

    • @myserenity1130
      @myserenity1130 Před 3 lety +1

      The divided states of America

    • @darrylcarter8517
      @darrylcarter8517 Před rokem

      @@captaincodebook3200 Your monoliths are imaginary. 6,006,429 Californians voted for Trump in 2020. 5,259,126 Texans voted for Biden. Etc. etc. etc. But Top Four and Top Five have nothing to do with Presidential elections. That's a separate kettle of fish.

  • @absinthetikiti7829
    @absinthetikiti7829 Před 3 lety +8

    This would be an amazing step forward. We need this for our country. 🇺🇸

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      @mikedantonio2971 Před 3 lety

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    • @andrewwilliam363
      @andrewwilliam363 Před 2 lety

      Very right, hi how are you doing!

  • @connecticutaggie
    @connecticutaggie Před 3 lety +6

    I like the idea and I also have a friend who is politically opposite of me that might agree with you as well. The trick is how to get there. The state I live in has many people from both parties; but, because the main populous is in the cities where it is strongly one party, that party controls most of the power. I could see that any change to the voting system would reduce that party's power so that party would want other concessions before a system like this could be enacted. That seems like it would be the case in most other states as well.

  • @jtegland
    @jtegland Před 3 lety +4

    Sign me up for this.

  • @jimgriffiths9071
    @jimgriffiths9071 Před 3 lety +7

    This is a really innovative idea. All for it.

  • @coolbeanss
    @coolbeanss Před 3 lety +2

    This is more doable now than ever!

  • @byronwoolley565
    @byronwoolley565 Před 3 lety +25

    Great idea. Let’s see if we have any forward looking State Legislators.

    • @primeroyal7434
      @primeroyal7434 Před 3 lety +2

      They are puppet of the duopoly corporate regime for lord's sake.

    • @iAmMattN
      @iAmMattN Před 3 lety +2

      We'll have to be pro-active not passive. We're going to demand legislatures support these 2 changes for us to vote for them. Part of what's wrong is we all sit back and hope or expect DC to fix itself for us. It will never happen. Let's see if WE can do the work to make it happen.

    • @iAmMattN
      @iAmMattN Před 3 lety +2

      @@primeroyal7434 nope.. tone down the anger and reflexes.. WE have to spread the word and demand our state representatives support these 2 election reform policies to get our vote. Too many Americans think our problems are anyone and everyone else's fault but our own. It's US that have to take responsibility for our democracy. We gave work to do.

    • @primeroyal7434
      @primeroyal7434 Před 3 lety +2

      @@iAmMattN Whatever must be done, it must start with a democratic reform to this dreaded two-party-state.

  • @stevemcalphabet2282
    @stevemcalphabet2282 Před 2 lety

    I'm forty pages away from finishing the book and love it. Thank you.

  • @grauerHase
    @grauerHase Před 3 lety +5

    Please, please, please make this happen! I bet if you took this idea to Bill Gates, or even Google, they'd get behind you and give this a big push. Americans are so sick of the duopoly and if we could all see a way out, this would be fixed overnight.

    • @andrewbsfootballarchives4247
      @andrewbsfootballarchives4247 Před 3 lety +3

      Haha, those 2 would be the first to give her a big push alright, for an untimely accident. They are behind everything we've got going on right now. Don't believe me, look it up.

  • @DaveGarber1975
    @DaveGarber1975 Před 3 lety +7

    I believe that plurality voting is actually one of our worst options for voting systems. Ranked-choice voting is definitely better, but some studies show that it STILL doesn't eliminate the incentives to consolidate into a bipartisan duopoly. Approval voting would stop the duopoly. There are other options, as well.

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    • @darrylcarter8517
      @darrylcarter8517 Před rokem

      R.C.V. is only the General Election portion of Top Four and Top Five. The first step is a NON-PARTISAN primary.

  • @captainls9511
    @captainls9511 Před 3 lety +17

    “Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs.”- Farrah Gray

  • @lyssasletters3232
    @lyssasletters3232 Před 3 lety +2

    Yes please!!!!!!!!!!

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  • @roshiron1816
    @roshiron1816 Před 3 lety +10

    "politically homeless"... it's called being an independent.

  • @zzhughesd
    @zzhughesd Před 3 lety +3

    Love the clarity in the intro.

  • @gorttman798
    @gorttman798 Před 3 lety +18

    preferential voting is used in Australia. The major problem is default preferences. If I dont select my ranked choices (as most don't do this) then the arranged preferences are applied. This is similar to duopoly in the end as the parties arrange the preferences to benefit themselevs and to build coaliutions. I like the suggested solution I think with some tuning it would work.

    • @eyescreamcake
      @eyescreamcake Před 2 lety +3

      It also suffers from vote-splitting and the spoiler effect, giving voters the illusion of having their voices heard, but not delivering on those promises. You can express your preferences between every candidate on the ballot, but then many of those preferences are never counted.

    • @darrylcarter8517
      @darrylcarter8517 Před rokem

      When you say "arranged preferences" are you referring to party lists ? In the "Top Four" AK system and in the "Top Five" primaries which Ms. Gehl advocates, party lists do not appear on the ballot. Only individual candidates do, and only individual candidates advance. Rather than "similar to Duopoly", these are "parties-be-damned" systems.

    • @eyescreamcake
      @eyescreamcake Před rokem

      ​@@darrylcarter8517 CZcams isn't showing me your reply to me but I think it was in this thread?
      "Top Four and Top Five have nothing to do with either vote-splitting"
      Top Four and Final Five both suffer from vote-splitting, in both the FPTP primary and in the Hare RCV general.
      "and are directly contrary to spoiler effect"
      No, they don't solve the spoiler effect. Both the FPTP primary and Hare RCV general suffer from spoilers. "RCV solves the spoiler effect" is a myth propagated by FairVote. If you want to solve the spoiler effect you need to count more than just first-choice rankings. For instance, an Approval Voting primary followed by a top four Baldwin RCV general would avoid spoilers (recently reinvented under the name "Total Vote Runoff").
      "R.C.V. applies only in the General. "
      Yes, it's a FPTP primary followed by Hare's Method RCV in the general. Both are flawed voting methods advocated by people who don't understand voting theory.

    • @gorttman798
      @gorttman798 Před rokem

      @@darrylcarter8517 not quite. Two levels. 1 vote above the line so you don’t rank candidates, rather the parties register the preferences and its just applied. Second the parties hand out “how to vote” cards
      So as in our home state where the premier gained 35-40% of the primary vote but was able to stitch up preferences from minor parties and got over the line

  • @darrylcarter8517
    @darrylcarter8517 Před rokem +1

    Excellent presentation of the concept. It's interesting, that she posted this, sticking with "Top Five", while mentioning AK's adoption of "Top Four" anchored in the recommendations of herself and a co-author. Absolutely, we should all aspire to and advocate for, one or the other to be adopted in every State and the District. However, I would disagree with her take that addressing gerrymandering is unimportant. It is well worth advocating replication of CA and MI redistricting protocols simultaneously with the AK Elections System. And of course, Presidential elections are a separate topic.

  • @Vertaghost
    @Vertaghost Před 3 lety +10

    I hope people see this and get to work. Instead of falling in love with a gamers voice.

  • @mayflowerlash11
    @mayflowerlash11 Před 3 lety +4

    Australia has compulsory voting, and preferential ballots which work the same way as the final five you describe. Works in Australia.

  • @msatya7210
    @msatya7210 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for this video 👍

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  • @jdooms
    @jdooms Před 3 lety +5

    Dutch here, feel severely “politically homeless”...
    it’s not just your country..

    • @grauerHase
      @grauerHase Před 3 lety +2

      I'm sorry to hear you guys have similar issues 😟 but it does help to know it's not just us. I hope we can all fix these issues, because it's just so ridiculous at this point.

    • @jdooms
      @jdooms Před 3 lety +1

      @@grauerHase yes indeed.
      To be fair our problem is rooted in opportunities. We have wayyyy too many parties. Kind of the other extreme if you will.
      Well at least we suffer together I guess 🥲😅

  • @richardworsham9477
    @richardworsham9477 Před 2 lety +1

    They tried this in New York and it went horribly. People just didn’t vote when they person they wanted to get selected. Most people just didn’t select a second or third.

    • @darrylcarter8517
      @darrylcarter8517 Před rokem

      NY put R.C.V. in the primary. That can get dicey with a huge field of candidates. Top Four and Top Five mean just that IN THE PRIMARY. R.C.V. is then used in the GENERAL.

  • @KomTvdelhi
    @KomTvdelhi Před 3 lety +5

    This women will be on top after 5 years... She is very well verse about her topic

  • @Blessedup69
    @Blessedup69 Před 3 lety +6

    Government stands for govern mental

  • @RobertHildebrandt
    @RobertHildebrandt Před 3 lety +6

    I love the focus on incentives.

  • @wishingpixies8384
    @wishingpixies8384 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you!

  • @kirstenfell3970
    @kirstenfell3970 Před 3 lety +4

    This needs to go viral

  • @robertmosher7418
    @robertmosher7418 Před 3 lety +5

    This is a great idea. The only issue that I see is the same one Spectre haunting our current debacle...voter machine hacking

    • @danmcclain108
      @danmcclain108 Před 3 lety +2

      Can you provide prof of that? I would agree that the lack of transparency and nonpartisan (partisan mitigated) public audits are good reasons to go with voter readable ballots. No more hidden bar code records.

    • @danmcclain108
      @danmcclain108 Před 3 lety +1

      Can you provide prof of that? I would agree that the lack of transparency and nonpartisan (partisan mitigated) public audits are good reasons to go with voter readable ballots. No more hidden bar code records.

    • @robertmosher7418
      @robertmosher7418 Před 3 lety +2

      @@danmcclain108 what would have been an awesome idea for this country would be for the both parties to support the audit of the machines to see if there was any sort of hacking that went on. I do know that some professional Intel executives were able to evaluate some evidence and did testify in front of state legislatures on those things. Of course I personally do not have evidence. However, I do believe credible people when they are willing to testify under penalty of perjury.

    • @darrylcarter8517
      @darrylcarter8517 Před rokem

      @@robertmosher7418 Follow the voting machine suit against Faux News and their professional provocateur employees for further news of this persistent disinformation.

  • @peregrineslim4446
    @peregrineslim4446 Před 3 lety +11

    America is like a cheese that keeps being injected with mould beyond any limit of edibility.

  • @coach-Eman
    @coach-Eman Před 3 lety

    Thanks very much

  • @2Manchester
    @2Manchester Před rokem +1

    Interesting approach to say the least.

  • @rockwilder1071
    @rockwilder1071 Před rokem +1

    What an amazing idea. I always thought the only way to fix our political arena was to have AT LEAST one more viable party. Or just have 20 candidates with no party. Just vote for who you think is best.

  • @alexnikas8533
    @alexnikas8533 Před 3 lety +2

    I wish everyone understood

  • @deorarajendrasingh
    @deorarajendrasingh Před 3 lety +2

    Amazing

  • @ibanavillasenor1
    @ibanavillasenor1 Před rokem +1

    How can we start ? The current system will claw to avoid change

  • @millenniumzeek
    @millenniumzeek Před 3 lety

    Excellent talk and idea for voting reformation. Now do it people

  • @jlshoem
    @jlshoem Před 3 lety +1

    Until she got to the part about Alaska making the change, I was shaking my head. And I still have doubts that this will happen in a reasonable amount of time.

  • @morgydee
    @morgydee Před 3 lety

    This could only work in a system thats just flawed, not corrupt

  • @aresmars2003
    @aresmars2003 Před 3 lety +1

    A good argument, but top-5 is too generous. If you have a primary down to final-5 candidates (38%, 30%, 30%, 1%, 1%) why keep the 1% candidates against 3 strong choices?
    A better primary sets a threshold like 20%, which limits to top-4.

  • @sampleowner6677
    @sampleowner6677 Před 3 lety

    The difference between business and politics is business people are mostly motivated by money and politicians are motivated by power. A few are motivated by working for the public good but only a few. The biggest motivator for politicians is getting reelected.

  • @caiolimacaldas
    @caiolimacaldas Před 2 lety +1

    Independent politicians are the future and political parties are past.

  • @jasminegold3005
    @jasminegold3005 Před 3 lety +1

    I think it’s a great idea getting it enacted however will be hard

    • @HomeworkHELPTutor
      @HomeworkHELPTutor Před 3 lety +2

      Each state needs someone to petition to get it on the ballot, from my understanding. She discusses this more in her recent podcast on The Realignment. Will you start a petition to get it on the ballot in your state?

  • @skronger
    @skronger Před 3 lety +1

    Canada needs it just as badly. Voters very commonly say, "I didn't vote for see-and-see because I was afraid saw-and-saw would win.

  • @isaaca6445
    @isaaca6445 Před 3 lety

    Amazing!

  • @mauialohagram
    @mauialohagram Před 3 lety +1

    Love this idea Katherine. How does it square with the electoral college?

    • @darrylcarter8517
      @darrylcarter8517 Před rokem

      Top Four and Top Five primaries have nothing to do with Presidential Elections. Separate topics.

  • @JadeTrading
    @JadeTrading Před 3 lety +2

    Happy new year everyone 🙌

  • @joaofarias6473
    @joaofarias6473 Před 3 lety +4

    This is such a wonderful idea!

  • @englishwithfarhan3496
    @englishwithfarhan3496 Před 3 lety +1

    Brilliant

  • @LoveToMix
    @LoveToMix Před 3 lety +1

    Nice Work!

  • @pasj739
    @pasj739 Před 3 lety +1

    Interesting idea but wouldn't the R vote their person 1 and the D person 5, and same the other way? I don't understand how final results would be different and if it's not different what makes the politicians want to change?

    • @darrylcarter8517
      @darrylcarter8517 Před rokem

      The electorate is awash in citizens who are not enamored of either Duopoly arm. Top Four/Top Five are NON-partisan, parties-be-damned systems.

  • @Loekamber
    @Loekamber Před 3 lety +1

    Good thing CZcams has a 2x speed mode...

    • @mmc7753
      @mmc7753 Před 2 lety

      2x speed with closed captioning is the only way a fast reader like myself can stomach watching slow-speaking videos like this.

  • @roshiron1816
    @roshiron1816 Před 3 lety +4

    So it goes from saying:
    "Don't waste your ONLY vote on the Independent, he'll lose"
    To:
    "Don't waste your #1 vote on the Independent, use your #2".

  • @vakalisfamily11
    @vakalisfamily11 Před 3 lety +4

    I am from Alaska and yes we recently made changes. I would suggest keeping the primary's so each party can put their best candidate forward. All those candidate run in the November election. The top two emerge for a final vote.
    OR, what if to be President you could have no party affiliation at all and could not be eligible if previously served in House or Senate....

    • @biteme3470
      @biteme3470 Před 3 lety +1

      You make good points. Would be nice to have someone on who spoke about some cons on this voting method for a balanced discussion.

    • @aylbdrmadison1051
      @aylbdrmadison1051 Před 3 lety +2

      You said _keep the primary,_ but made no effort at all as to why.
      And having less party affiliation is the entire point.

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    @entreentrevistas7504 Před 3 lety +10

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  • @wakeupandbord
    @wakeupandbord Před 3 lety +3

    I've been saying this for years. Cant fix what's already fixed, change the game to suite modern day fuckery that is at hand. Heearr yee?
    PS: Why does it say Dec 5th 2020 (Today is Dec 30th) Yet it was released today?

  • @JacobAnawalt
    @JacobAnawalt Před 3 lety

    How does this address the invisible (money) primary and the difficulty in getting on the ballot?

    • @HomeworkHELPTutor
      @HomeworkHELPTutor Před 3 lety +1

      Getting it on the ballot requires a petition from my understanding. Just get enough people to sign...

  • @lynnrussell467
    @lynnrussell467 Před 3 lety +1

    Ranked voting makes sense and offers more choice! Yay