Woke attacks on Winston Churchill are libel & lies | Churchill defended
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- To many, Winston Churchill is the man who saved not only Britain but the world from Nazi tyranny. But to some, Churchill represents the evils of the British Empire: racism, colonisation and violence. The wartime prime minister’s statue in Parliament Square was even tarred with the words “racist” after the Black Lives Matter protests of 2020. So, hero or villain? Steven Edginton is joined by Churchill’s biographer, Andrew Roberts to decide. Watch the full video above, or listen to History Defended on your podcast app.
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Churchill was quite proud of his imperialist positions over the long span of his career. he was also a proponent of the extension of Britain's colonies. he found himself at odds with a different kind of imperialist, which doesn't erase his own motivations or behavior.
Hitler was not an imperialist, unlike Mussolini.
The Future Fascists will call themselves the Anti Fascists -Winston Churchill
He never actually said that
Its happening in the USA today! Not sure who actually made the statement though!
like he's potrayed today. Churchill was a Fascist.
That's what antifa stands for their name is anti fascism but they are the fascist
@@gerrycastlemanwarde5933 Is it really?
Sent this to a friend who believes that WW2 would have worked out positive without Winston, apparently any leader would have done the same...
Well, he’s not wrong. If there was another leader who refused to surrender, ww2 would’ve still gone more or less the same. The real ones who won ww2 was the USSR and USA
@@owenklein1917 The case could be made that without Britain refusing to surrender and playing such an active role in the war, the USA wouldn't have been able to intervene and the USSR may have been defeated.
I often find it hard to think one person actions could win a war it chain off events that leads to the end results let's say Hitler an staling never fell out what would Churchill not surrendering lead too winning or england being concurd
@@owenklein1917 false. Most politicians didn’t agree with Churchill till after the we shall never surrender speech.
We'll never know, but I for one am glad they had him back them. There might have been someone else who could do the job but certainly he did it as well as anyone could.
I believe it was Grant that said 'What ifs' are a waste of time. 'Yes if our bullets all past harmlessly over their heads then we would have lost' and so on.
Also take into account that throughout the 30's a he called for rearmament and was disreguarded by all but about 2 or 3 politicians
Awesome segment, Telegraph!
I just don’t think personally we should meddle with what’s already happened
He was a giant. Obviously had flaws and made errors but a lot of his detractors speak in half truths innuendo and lies. We (the Liberal West) wouldn't be here without him
I mean, his comments about indians were pretty deplorable - and very documented. Not sure people should be expected to care about the times, churchill had access to a bible didnt he?? He should have known better.
Wow killing 4million people is a flaw but Hitler was a criminal dictator. Such hypocrisy
Famine = 'flaws'
Yes. There would have been a liberal east in your place...
@@anchalsharma The East was never liberal.
It’s funny how y’all can’t imagine that he was BOTH
Spot on..the Great & The Good..not always synonymous 😆
@@jayturner3397 The good far outweighed the bad
@UmbrellaLeef the good far outweighed the bad
no! he was a hero
@UmbrellaLeef True thats why we shouldnt silence his critique like right but also we shouldnt completly dimiss his good actions which undeniably that heavily outweight bad one's
Great work and well put across
I love that question at the end. Anyone who goes along with the destruction of the memory of Churchill is a fool and should be ignored and condemned.
Yeah a Mass murder like Hitler
So true!! It needs to be fully expanded to include his entire achievements & body count.
I dont personally like Churchill like other prime-ministers like Attlee, but i definetely wont tear down his statue, he's part of history after all.
The only sustainable significant allegation against Churchills character is that his book of 1948 was deceitful, and that his deceitful summary of Chamberlains thoughts and actions proved Chamberlain right as Health Minister that the Chancellor of the Exchequer would take all the credit for the legislation if he had his way. This is the question concerning Churchill, only ignorance of history has generated appearance that his imperial arrogance is the question we should be asking when examining whether part of his legacy was the result of character defect.
This is a brilliant idea. Can't wait to see the rest.
@DRE_Talks
Beijing Biden (LGB) does what he wants when he wants, and he's a complete and utter failure, all at the expense of everyone else. Churchill had the free world on his back, and came out the other side with freedom and victory for his people, and those involved with him.
@DRE_Talks Read where about Lusitania? more woke rubbish.
Diary entry of General Alan Brooke, 10th of September 1944
"We had another meeting with Winston at 12 noon. He was again in a most unpleasant mood. Produced the most ridiculous arguments that Operations could be sped up so as to leave us an option till December before having to withdraw any forces from europe! He knows no details, has only got half the picture in his mind, talks absurdities and makes my blood boil to listen to his nonsense. I find it hard to remain civil. And the wonderful thing is that 3/4 of the world imagine that Winston Churchill is one of the Strategists of History, a second Marlborough, and the other 1/4 have no conception what a public menace he is and has been throughout this war! It is far better that the world should never know, and never suspect, the feet of clay of that otherwise superhuman being. Without him, England was lost for a certainty, with him, England has been on the verge of disaster time and again."
In Oz and NZ there is the idea that our troops were sent in before.... First time I've heard of that.
They were
"Everything woke turns to..."
Someone who doesn't have an opinion of there own spotted in clear daylight right here.
@@kevaughnramsay9846 Glass house.
One man says they are all made up and there’s no context , oh well then that’s sorted. Ffs
But what of William Shockley and James Watson.. ?
I'm not sure there actually is a statue of James Watson in the UK. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are numerous plaques (e.g. at the Eagle pub in Cambridge) and a double helix statue at Clare College in Cambridge. However, R.A. Fisher's memorial stained glass window was taken down in Gonville and Caius College due to his eugenic views.
I was in a bookshop this week and right front and centre on prominent display (not far from a university.... ) were two sensationalist anti-churchill books that on further research appear to be one sided hatchet jobs full of bullsh1t, one by a well known far leftie that I've seen on the BBC and knew from memory to be an ar*ehole. It's depressing as I'm guessing the bookshop know their target audience and I'm sure a certain type of student will buy that sort of book then believe they are incredibly clever repeating said bullsh1t, as it makes them appear to be more knowledgeable, edgy, and cool. And of course attacking Britain or anything that makes anyone proud to be British never goes out of fashion with a certain sort, it's never BEEN more trendy since Brexit made a cross section of society lose their collective marbles in petulant rage.
Sadly there seems to be no comeback for books that contain disinformation once the person targeted is dead?
someone is wearing his butchers apron knickers.
Brilliant
BIG UP THE BLACK AND TANS
Hero
i think getting the views of more than one historian would have been more accurate. Andrew Roberts is often criticised for his own biases.
History is about bias
Churchill should be made a saint.
Churchill is a great leader of Britain, we want his statue back.
His statue is there, what we want is those bars being removed and those vandalisers paying the price!
@@vikramsureswarannaidu7248 that will never happen.
@@MrSeekerOfPeace Yes it Will! We've already got legislation in for it and to make sure that these pigs who vandalise our heroes pay with up to 10 years in prison.
auschwitz=Bengal
@@vikramsureswarannaidu7248 it is probably going to get broken, the man has more blood on his hands than hitler ffs
Great idea for a series 👏 👍
@DRE_Talks Much debate re your first point, not heard the second but I think he and Roosevelt knew about pearl harbour..We want great people to be good too..never do wrong, can't happen He was the man at the time to do a job..whatever his fault
First to establish Concentration Camps. First to use Famine as a weapon of War.. When I look at this, I'm glad to be able to edit, because I found a different word in place of Famine. I don't know how that happened, but must be down to predictive. I have fixed it now. Apologies.
Bollox. He was a journo at the time, he wasn't even in politics so couldn't set up concentration camps
"First to establish Concentration Camps". Absolute horseshit. I mean it's just such a ridiculous easily disprovable ignorant thing to say. What next, he invented covid?
Winston did much for Britain but to say he wasn't a bigot is laughable. He wss steeped in the prejudices of the colonial era. An intelligent empathetic individual would have been anle to sse colonialism for what it was He was not able to do so.
“Bigot” is NOT a word that can be applied to Winston.
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@@mauricebuckmaster9368I disagree. He was a white supremacist and a bigot who belittled the religious beliefs of people in the lands Britain had taken.
Churchill was a hero and always will be!!
He will not be in the face of India
I shell be forever greatful like the rest of the world should be for Churchill. Imagine the world without him.
My grandparents followed his leadership to battle so I can be free and I'm forever greatful
Free to be a slave. Churchill doomed this country and sold forever its soul to liberal capitalism.
lol... He forced America into saving the world.
@@frederickwilliams5229 liberal capitalism is the best form of goverment the world has had and will ever have
He was a terrorist and would have been. Tried for war crimes if he was alive today
😂
Legitimate historical criticism of Churchill is not woke. Max Hastings who considers him a hero, acknowledges the significant blots on his character.
Glad to see that Steven Edginton has found a non-tabloid home. He's a very impressive young journalist.
Never heard of him before but judging by this video he`s a bit of a simpering chinless wonder.
Britains finnest hour
The " Indian " government at time of Bengal famine were rubber stamps .That was why Quit India movement was started in 1942 .
How dare any free person think of cancelling Winston. 🏴🇬🇧🤐
Far more Brits died at Gallipoli then Aussies and NZ combined, not that it's a competition. It's not remembered in Briton so much as Australia and NZ, as that was always the case
But Gallipoli was a great movie and that's more important.
@DRE_Talks On the first point, I think Roberts' points are refutation - not least the reality that he was not omnipotent and that others had more control of the situation.
@DRE_Talks winston actively sent extremely needed loads of grain and barley for the war effort to relieve India. He also when the US joined the e war begged FDR to send supplied to India to help the situation etymology was denied, Japanese naval efforts in the region caused major issues to supply. The sad thing is the notion that winston caused the Bengal famine came as a result of a book written by a non-historian, very similarly to the bombing of dresden and people believe that Dresden was purely a “cultural city”.
@@carwyngriffiths no he never sent food to relieve india, instead he took more than what he gave us and used OUR just in case they ran out, giving no attention to india and our contribution to the war.
ok, though the reason that britain was close to getting to the objective was mainly because of the experienced and professional Indian soldiers fighting
The alternative to [his] leadership isn't worth contemplating.
Who else was available to do what was necessary?
Who else led a blameless life that could be applauded by the 'rules of the road' in today's standard?
All but Churchill were ready to submit to Hitler.
Lord Halifax, who it was assumed would be PM, even made in roads with Mussolini to get a treaty with Hitler.
Churchill later had him under house arrest for the duration.
Only Churchill thought we should fight to the bitter end if needed.
America was as pro Germany as it was UK and could have gone either way.
In fact the UK secret service did a little con job on America to influence them into coming on our side, that's down to Churchill.
So who else could have saved the world and Democracy?
Nobody!
Churchill was the man in the right place at the right time. His life experience led him to the moment.
My dad served in the Royal Navy from 39 to the end. My mother made rifles and bren at Royal Ordnance Fazakerley.
Churchill gave them hope to carry on when everything seemed lost.
There's not been a PM who could do that since.
He wasn't perfect, who is?
@DRE_Talks oh stop copy and pasting this utter nonsense it’s been debunked many times before.
No one is blameless but very few are guilt of a genocide including the leaders of world.
there was:
- Lord Halafax (he let Churchill take over by giving up the race for prime-minister)
- Lord Alaanbroke (to less extent due to being more military than political)
- Clement Attlee (the only one besides Churchill to stay in the War Cabinet through the duration of the war)
- Neville Chamberlain (though Chamberlain's failure at Norway would make it impossible for him to continue)
All of them wouldnt be willing to peace with Germany, they all agreed on "Until the end" (Chamberlain is debatable though).
Don't try and paint people with pretty colours just because they did something good. Lots of criminals etc have done something good but do they get celebrated? Churchill was flawed.
Of course he was flawed, everyone in the world is flawed dimwit, but thats a ret....ard point, because ,of course, Churchill was flawed, but the thintgs that this BLM mor...ons Say about him is a lie, and thats a fact.
Oh aye just like the lot who broke the law tearing down statues, breaking into shops, decimating public property. But of course there let off the hook. Main difference being this is a person born over a century ago which at the time had extremely different ideals. But hey let’s let the people that agree with my political views off the hook right?
Woke freak
The hero of the Dardanelles!
Churchill is a hero and a massive inspiration 🇬🇧
Sure, he didn't have a great / any regard for people's lives, even British people. But, he did save us from fascism, so not all bad.
Idiot,he was as bad as hitler,he was an evil man that hated dark skinned people
@@jayski9667 is there any proof of that or did u just see all of the other ppl saying that
@@BLUERENI777 there is plenty of proof
@@BiasN if there is can u share it with me
"In 1955, Churchill expressed his support for the slogan 'Keep England White' with regards to immigration from the West Indies". Wiki. "In 1911, Churchill banned inter-racial boxing matches so white fighters would not be seen losing to black ones. He reportedly did not think 'black people were as capable or as efficient as white people. He insisted that Britain and America shared Anglo-Saxon superiority (didn't ancient Britons who are the majority in the country come from Spain 6000 years ago, according to the latest DNA studies done?). He described anti-colonial campaigners as 'savages armed with ideas' ". Priyamvada Gopal. The Guardian.
Libel????? lololololololol FOH
hero
Churchill is hero ❤️
This man has more blood on his hands then Hitler, still people see him as hero.
He is man to be ashamed of.
He doesn't have blood on his hands, unlike Hitler. I used to think the same until I found out the truth.
Absolute Hero! Our Nation's greatest defender of our freedoms
He also said in his memoir that blacks and Indians are not to be trusted and refused to shake hand with him
@@mmassehs3251 Who care
@Naidu Is that your real name? If it is, as someone either Indian or of Indian origin, your defense of Churchill is shocking.
He tried to stop people from gaining freedoms mate. He told the public that Hitler would occupy britain and stuff, but hitler said that britain and her empire were fine with him, the real threat to us was japan
He was probably both but the historian was being very kind to him, but God bless the british who held hitler
I like Churchill. I like Andrew Robert, and I love Steven Edginton.
@DRE_Talks bollocks
@DRE_Talks 13:30
What a woke bunch of comments. Did anyone actually listen to the video? No...I thought not.
That man had an excuse for every evil thing churchill did.
nice vedio india will rise from ashes and then we will have judgemnet for this
That Mad Mukerjee Muckraker and damn Leo Emery. With a name like the formermon historian, speaks for itself
Churchill saved the world full stop.
Yes Thanos also saved half of the universe 🤣🤣
He killed 10 mil Indians and Benglis that's more then hitler and the worst part it could be easily avoided if food from Australia came
@@Aki-47. wrong
lol.
@@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek food was on its way to India at last moment churchill stop it the governor of India begged for help
The word "imperialist" is so antagonised. As an imperialist myself (I'm also Sri Lankan), I say imperialism was possibly the best form of government
remember when Teddy Roosevelt, was pro imperialism, but then saw how things were being done to the people of the Philippines and was questioning his stance on it? Gotta look at both sides of who put other nations under them, and the side of the people under rule... Because, the circumstances are different depending on who was running what,
Not, against imperialism, I think it works sometimes, but I'm not completely for it either. Just being objective
23:00 - Churchill's War Volume 3 by David Irving has just been released also.
Churchill will always be a villan against the people to me. He sent the troops in to smash the miners in Tonypandy, the work of a political bully.
Utter lies. Get out of this forum, fool.
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Saying derogatory remarks against a race is not racism. Doing bad things against a race is. Lol 😂
How about both is racism, which it is.
Churchill was one of the greatest leaders in world history and a British patriot
He also said blacks and Indians are abominations..he also refused to shake hands with a black army officer in 1933
@Saviour Joe Biden stop lying lol
@@samwhite4608 well he was heading up putting down Easter rising and came up with the plan for the Gallipoli campaign
And often didn’t report u boat attacks to save Bletchley park from being discovered
@@mmassehs3251 they are savages
@@samwhite4608 Churchill would messa round with 14 year olds...he said that blacks shouldnt be doctors
Sniffing so much copium
Those who dislike Britten and our culture are free to leave BECAUSE of us, the offence laws in Scotland are a cancer to free speech, those who spend days looking for offence should try charity work for a more productive life
Winston Churchill is my hero without him this country would be a much worse off place
He LITERALLY saved democracy and civilisation.
@@samcad-ho3ze How exactly?
@@samcad-ho3ze by forcing America to?... lol
Hitler was a monster yet far better than evil Churchill
We decided that woke no good so try pull back a bit.....
I read that Churchill's policies exacerbated the Bengal Famine that killed nearly 2.1-3 million Indian natives. I also read that Churchill allowed the RMS Lusitania to travel through the Celtic Sea without any convoy knowing it would get destroyed by a German U Boat hoping the event would encourage the Americans to join in the war. So to me Churchill doesn't represent anything pleasant. He put the Empire first but that was a waste of time because we no longer have the Empire.
Yes, to him, killing people was justified the outcome.
Bzzt.
Made up by Leo Emery and Muckraked by Mad Mukerjee (her real name)
Free Nelson Mandela
Precisely, Neville Chamberlains initials were A.N.C.
Churchill wrote in 1948 blaming him, which was considerably worse than the blame heard on this video against Churchill.
straw man arguments, shameless bias. Not addressing the genuine criticisms.
Churchill was a demon. And he’s currently roasting right where he belongs, for eternity
This whole video is a joke
What about bengal famine of 1943 ? what he said about indians ? his words ?
13:30
It's in the video
2:15
Villan
Cringe
He knew the Empire was finished when INDIA GOT FREE OF BRITISH RULE!!! DRUNK EMPIRE BUILDER!!
Actually what finished the empire was the fact that the Second World War had bankrupted Britain, meaning we had to go to the Americans and beg for a loan to rebuild Britain. The Yanks demanded that we grant independence to all our colonies (most of whom were not even asking for it) as the price for that loan. This was because they have a national myth, which is not supported by the evidence, that they gained their independence by throwing off a tyrannical oppressor in the form of Britain. They therefore have the idea that empire is by its very nature, tyrannical, which is a subjective conclusion and is not always the case. Britain had no choice but to accept the conditions set by the Americans as our economy had been destroyed. Therefore it was the Americans, through their ignorance of history, who destroyed the empire.
Clown.
@@mikegray8776 Who?
the three statue of black slavery is Islam and Christianity and the royal family of Europe,if this institutions still exist then there is racism
Islam yes. The others no.
Dont generalize this woke label..
It is just a way to ridicule young people, for trying out new ideas.. just like hippies it has its flaws.. but without experimentation we simply become slaves of the past.. including all the worlds history..
I love churchill, so i dont really care about his mistakes.. i love him for taking an in that time ridiculous stand.. did he pull a lot of people into war? Sure . But this was in response to fascism not in support.. which means he went against his character and the english character of that time which justified all kinds of suffering in favor of the british empire, including racism and the superiority complex which lives even today towards tribal people. So i value him not for who he was but for his potential for good and how he chose to go with his heart.. i dont care about hitler and the british empire that whole shitshow.. all that powerplay had to go down the drain.. but all of it doesnt matter now. The nations of africa and south america can see their own value, take a stand.. they can grow out of their past as churchill did even if for a moment... As the global north feeds on their resources, they can learn the political game and play out the neo imperialists out against each other and in this create more resilience against neo colonialism.. and space for creating a self sustainable space for themselves
I think that this guy has got a proper mancrush on Churchill,
He should one of them dogs so he can kiss it at night, 💋🐕
(BTW, I don't think that it would help u find out if Churchill was a liar or not to buy a book full if his explanations only)
Churchill was a warmonger. We should have never got involved. At least we are not speaking German right Ahmed?
Correct, he was determined to have his war, he insisted calling negotiation " appeasement".
Villain 1000%
Innumerate 100%
Spasticated retard 100%
3:17 this dude is delusional