Loading World Games from cassette and playing it on my C64
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2019
- I was going to take a break at work and get some heavy duty lifting going on, practicing World Games, but... I sorta forgot that it takes some time loading games from cassette. :)
Nostalgia? - absolutely, Fun waiting? - not so much
Still love the old brick though... - Hry
The good old days of loading a game on Friday for it to play on Sunday
Ha! Typing them out was a chore as well, or so I've heard.
Haha! :)
That was the time when humanity finally split into winners and losers.
I don't know if Arnold Schwarzenegger ever used a C64 to play games, but if he did, he got some exercise in the time it took to load the game.
I used to put it on to load then make a cuppa.
It should reffer especially to Atari 800XL and its cassette player. ;)
It's funny how many tactile memories were evoked during the process of setting up the thing to even begin loading. The click of the power button, the opening of the cassette deck lid, even the vibration on the desk of the tape rewinding. I can still feel those sensations, just by looking at the tasks being performed.
Exactly! :) That rewinding sound especially triggered a fantastic feeling in me. That sweet feeling of anticipation :)
I totally agree... This was about the first time I unpacked and ran the old brick in like 35 years. But I felt 9 again. I wasn't even sure it would work. I mean old tapes that's been sitting in my basement all these years.
Haha, I know. :)
The counter reset button of that model of tape drive is absolutely the most satisfying reset on any cassette player. The large size of the button you can really feel the vibrations of the number rollers turning through the tip of your finger as you press.
None of my old commodore systems work any more. You are lucky that yours did. @@MickeKring
"Be kind, rewind" was a great movement back in the day.
when i was a child ~40 years ago, i was cycling 11km to next town, bought a computer magazine, cycling back home 11km. typing in the game code for VC20 for many hours, searching for and correcting my typos and then played the game. i was so happy!
I also did that. You sat there and typed and typed, sometimes not knowing what would happen. Then dubugging... and the joy when it worked.
@@MickeKringI remember doing that as well as typing in Machine Language and it was fun finding the typo's in that as there was no error message from Basic. I even remember building a kit that connected between the C64 and short wave radio and I could decode those weather fax and RTTY stations. That was fun times and Action Reply was a lot more fun all the stuff you would be able to do with those.
Same. I had a game that I had programmed myself actually be published in one of those magazines. I forget the name of the mag but it was the C64 exclusive one. I did so much with that machine including disassembling an Atari joystick down to the board and mounting it into the door jam of my bedroom to make a door alarm if the door was opened!! My Dad loved it.
@@LAIRDO- congratulation your game was printed in a C64 magazine! i too wrote games on then VC20, using multicolor and machine code for fast response (arkanoid and west bank style games). never seen this in a computer magazine for VC20 games. but I was always to shy to send my games to a computer magazine. :(
My favorite C64 game took just over 13 minutes to load from the cassette. when we upgraded to a 1541 diskette drive it ONLY took about a minute and a half. Such incredible speed!!
Ah, the good old days!
Yeah, I remeber the xmas when I got the 1541. Copied my games from cassette to floppy and amazed myself with the speed.
Next level was "Speed Disk" (was this the name?) replaced the serial cable by a parallel one and then it was really turbo!
@@princecharmin7208 It was called SpeedDOS innThe Netherlands.
@@RamonDeKlein you are absolutly right. Thanks
I upgraded to DMA load from USB by now but it's 2023. Ultimate 64. Have you tried timing skate or die load times? I'm not sure what version I have, but the loader disk has a turbo load option (only works on a real floppy drive, no go on emulators). It's hard to explain, but the floppy noise speeds up to insane speeds and the game loads in like 1 minute.
I had James Bond on cassette for the c64. 10 minutes loading time and when you died (mostly within 60 seconds) you had to load the ENTIRE game again from scratch. It was bloody frikkin' madness how patient people were back in the days.
Oh my... and still we played these things.:)
Back when we had time for our inner thoughts contemplating about life, without a million distractions surrounding us every second. And for some reason we still managed to get through the day, now everyone has so much technology helping them with everything, and people are for some reason even more stressed out. It’s madness how we have fallen.
This is why c64 games had fantastic loading music 😅
C64 sound effects...the good old days.
"Back in the day" it was quite normal to wait 15 - 20 minutes for a game to load on the old datasette :) I can remember typing in a program from a book which took most of the afternoon and early evening, only for the computer to crash and lose the whole lot - happy days! :)
I've never got to experience this machine, but the 8-bit guy describes it pretty well.
It was the 8-bit guy that made me go down to the basement and get my old C64. Love him.
Yeah! That's it! Typing and typing, getting a lot of errors, hours and hours and then... you got a ball jumping across the screen. :)
I spent days typing one to, for the bloody thing not to work. I typed it correct 🤣 I was enraged.
been there as well, only played 'horse races' once after typing for forever as 7-9yo or so, the pain. Also had all sorts of superstitious habits as a kid, to avoid it from crashing during loading, never dared to look at the screen while loading for example ;)
Can't recall how many great hours I've spent with friends after school playing this game on this setup ... sweet memories!
Worth waiting every second back in the 80s.
I can remember well when a friend of me showed me Action Biker the first time on the C64. I was so flashed. Great memory...
I stopped playing an online game a couple of years ago, when I realised there were games that I played on my Commodore 64 in 1985 that I liked a lot better.
The Commodore 64 with the cassette deck. This was my first introduction to computer and games. I had one of these my God, this brings back memories.
I was six when I used the C64. I swear that listening the sounds of this video you took me back in time and I could even smell the plastics. Tnx!
The nostalgia is strong in this one. :) You're welcome!
Thank U for this video. Im 39 year’s old, and now as i seen your video, came back for me many beauty memory-when i was ~6 years old, and me& my father couldn’t started video games in C64 :). Mybe anno was need some day when realised for our, how is working some helping by friend’s of father.
Wow, I remember those days! Looks so familiar! Now I enjoy looking at and playing those same games from time to time on emulators that quick load, sharpen the graphics, and help preserve those classics!
Memories!!!!! Wow. My family had this same setup… and boy, we thought we were hot sh*t when we got a floppy drive (5.25 inch, naturally).
Haha, yeah I know. I got the 1541 disk drive the next christmas after I got the C64. And... a printer! Hot sh*t indeed! :)
Well! Compared to cassette having a floppy drive was like having M.2 gen 4 ssd……😁😁😁😁
I loved all the Epyx sports titles, but I was lucky to have a 1541 disk drive and World Games had a super fast loader, I can't imagine playing it on tape having to load each event separately.
Yeah, I also loved the sports titles. Don't know how many joysticks I've wasted on them. :) Also had the 1541 back in the day.
Love the nostalgia. I had the vic20 with its huge 3.5k memory. I remember getting the 16k expansion feeling like I was stepping into the future !
ha the anticipation before more loading, i remember it well
Nice video in my days when a moped came past the house we had to start all over again (EM pollution)specially when you used speed loader program
I`m so Glad we have better stuff nowadays
I miss my old C64. Loved playing The Rocky Horror Picture Show and Alice in Video Land on cassette back in the 80s.
This brings back the memories. It also shows how far technology has come. Amazing.
I had an Apple IIGS back in 1989. A buddy of mine and I would play Mean 18 golf.
It literally took 10 full minutes to load from 3.5" floppy. lol
So cool, I'm making a 3d model of the c64 cassette tape and I'll use this as a reference. I still remember my much older brothers playing with this beast, especially fist 2 and wizard or oz stuck in my mind forever. That music and aesthetics, sublime. Have a good day pal!
Thanks Gabriele! The nostaligia is strong in this one.
I just stumbled upn this video by chance. I'm almost 40 years old. I work as a sysadmin. Some people ask me from time to time how did I get into computers.
It was the year1986 and my dad had a C64 exactly like yours. Having to learn how to type stuff in order to get a game going got me used to terminals an keyboards when I was just 4/5 years old. The rest is history.
Thank you for sharing!
Well, you're welcome. I'm a couple of years older than you, but this was also my first computer. I was 9 when I got it. And... this was what got me into computers as well. It was us nerds with the C64 against them Nintendo 8 bitz kids. :)
A joy for life.
Never had one. From Pong to atari2600 to colecovision to Commodore PC XT.
And when you're just about to start playing you hear :
- Miiike! Dinner's ready!
-damn! 😂😂
Hello from Birmingham, AL, home of World Games 2022 that was held here in July. I was searching for C64s and tape drives and am loving the game you chose for your demo.
It's a great game! That, and all the other .... Games (World, Summer, Winter...).
My first game console was the TI (Texas Instrument)-99 which I enjoyed and still do. Also love the C64 but not the wait time with the cassette drive. Thanks for sharing and posting this video!
Thanks! When I posted the video I hade just about dug out the old C64 from my basement. An almost 40 year old computer that worked out of the box with cassette tapes that actually worked. Impressive, but the nostalgia of running it was so strong that I decided to record it. The sounds, the feeling of turning it on.... I was 9 again. :)
@@MickeKring indeed, very cool! Lots of great memories with the old consoles and just that time period in general.
Just lovely.
This was my childhood. Wizard of Wor was my game! Also Hillsfar and Maniac Mansion!
My cousin and I used to hack the games, pausing the load at a certain counter point and then entering in new lines of code (POKE'ing and PEEK'ing). Great memories!
And yet back then, it all seemed so magical. That said, the majority of us in Australia quickly got 1541 disk drives.
Wow it really makes you think about the things we now taking for granite
I felt happines and some stress waiting the loading game. Not allways the loading was succesful 😂😂😂. Nice memories of my commodore 64 and lot of games; spy demise, decathlon, Midway, Cobra, Rambo, Robin hood, Comandos, platoon...
Haha, I know. Will it work this time? Is something wrong? Yeay, it worked this time!
The intro music was what i was interested in.
I remember Starleague Baseball taking like 15-20 minutes. LOL. God those were great times. Made you appreciate playing the game more.
Oh, yes……… the magic has begun………. Loved my 64 in the 1980s
...and everything that's come after it just sucks. :) We're old.
Things were simpler 35 years or so ago But they lasted longer than some of the things today
They sure do!
I remember we used to load a game from a cassette, or even a disk drive for the commodore 64, then go to the living room and play Atari for a bit while the game loaded after 2 to 9 minutes.
the fact you can run anything off of a casette tape other than music blows my mind. even with a long wait.
I totally agree... :)
Always those rich kids with their tape decks! I have to type my games from the '64 magazine listing.
Haha, yeah, we did that too. Typing for 20 hours only to get one character wrong and the whole thing errored out...
Lol we all did.
@@MickeKring yep! There was always a problem in the peek and poke.
I'm love Kaleydoscopio, Rambo and first Metal Gear!
My young times 😁 I remember that from my teenage days !!!!!
Whilst waiting for World Games to load, I went for a drive into the bush found a large tree, chopped it down, trimmed it up and taught myself how to caber toss.
Upon establishing a new Australian and Commonwealth record in the discipline and soaking up all the corresponding adulation I returned to my abode and was over-joyed to see the title screen had loaded.
Haha! :)
I lived with this for about a week on an Apple II before purchasing a floppy drive as quick as I possibly could. LOL!
This video gives me the feels. I'm so glad i grew up in this pioneering era. The C64 and Amiga were incredible pieces of hardware.
I feel this. My older bros got the amiga when I was 6 and had the c64 before that. I feel so lucky I grew up watching them play. It was amazing!
THis is why I am glad I grew up in NA with my 1541 :)
I got one the xmas after I got my C64. Let's say, things got smoother. :)
What a great video!
Thanks! And yeah, it was the same for me when I unpacked the old brick and fired it up again. Instantly was 9 years old again. :)
@@MickeKring Nice :) Your idea was brilliant to show the loading part from the beginning. Would be amazing to see more. What was your favorite game? Mine was The Last Ninja 2 :)
@@deepcloudsmusic OMG! Yeah, I loved it too. But also all the Summer/Winter/World/California games, Green Beret, Commando, Rambo, Uridium, Barbarian, Bruce Lee and lots more.
@@MickeKring Yeah those are all incredible! There´s so many great ones! 🙂
I had that exakt TV-model back in the 80/90s!
Also, once the program is found on the tape, you can press the C= key to continue loading without waiting ;-)
I still remeber these days
Good ol days :)
I remember that you could save some time by resetting the counter on the tape deck when it was fully re-wound and then noting the numbers when the level you wanted started to load. Then next time you could fast forward the tape to just before that point and you wouldn't have to wait so long !!
Yup, that's what you did. :)
Some of my first Computing experiences were with friends and their Commodore 64 I can remember loading up plenty of programs that were on cassette tapes like calculator programs and keyboard program and we goofed around a lot ewith those units.... racing destruction set ..race cars and change the gravities and have little car Wars that was one of the funnest games we used to just laugh so hard when we hit jumps and that gravity would be set on the planet Pluto or something and your car would fly off the screen that was just the best of the best for us back then thank you Commodore 64 for that game it was so fun
The C64 formed my early years too. So much fun. Typed in programs from magazines, played games and ruined joysticks playing sports games. It was a wonderful time.
Feel your pain, that moment when you pumped your fist at the title screen. Gold! It seemed so random to me whether it would load or not, I got superstitious about loading games via tape. I would leave the room, pretending I didn’t care whether it loaded or not. So many wasted hours doing this. Good times 😂
What an invention for when you could just drink a second cup of coffee
Wow... this brings back good old memories of my C64... i had the floppy drive 1541 though.👍
Yeah, I got the 1541 the xmas after. What a blessing. :) And the fact that the pirated games were so much better in regards of loading time.
Watching this made me immediately go to my iOS RetroArch. It took mere seconds to load the practice weight lifting🏋️♀️ ….😁😁😁
Haha, I know. I've got the C64 mini which loads games in a second, but... there's the nostalgia bit too. The anticipation... will it load this time?
This got me into gaming, God I'm old
Well, yeah... we're actually old farts.
C64: where the load times are longer than the games
Amazing how tech has advance since the days of commodore 64, remember the days getting home from school on Friday nights get together with friends from around the neighborhood trade games on disks even learned basic computer programming on the C64 those were the days.
Yup. No internet, so all the knowledge you got was from someones older sibling. But here's where the love for coding and gaming started.
In 1990, I made such a computer myself (Sinclair). So my children stayed with him for hours.
Greetings from Canada. Back in my C64 time, games on cartridge were uncommon and games on cassette were unheard of. Everything was on floppy disks. Sure it was expensive for the one time purchase of the drive. But once you've gone over that hurdle, you had a very wide selection of pirated games on disk available by schoolyard trading.
Yeah, I know. I got the floppy (1541) the xmas after I got the C64. Unfortunately it didn't survive history. But back when I got the C64 all my friends was cassette only (around 83-84). And, absolutely, everyone traded games. :) Even if you had the original you wanted the pirated one, since they loaded faster.
The era of patience.
I remember being like 9 or 10 years old and going around to this kid Jarrod’s house who had the C64 with the tape deck.
….I remember a distinct sense of envy and anxious anticipation at even being able to interact with this new technology.
Yeah, when I was 8 I was incredibly jealous of my neighbor who had the C64. Tried to spend as much time with it (the C64) as I could. Fortunately for me, I got my own the next christmas.
I remember spending some time back in 1984-1986 with the kids of my father's boss, and they had a C64. I think they had that soccer game that only C64 had, and I was amazed by how good it was. Fast-forward one year, and my mom and I traveled from Belgrade to London to get my first computer. But that year (1985), we had these awful customs restrictions in Yugoslavia, where you could only bring in the computer that cost up to 150 GBP. And the Spectrum+ was 149.99 and C64 was 179 or 199. I don't recall, but it was a bit over the limit, and I could not get that C64 I dreamed of :(. I remember being very happy with the Sinclair, and then I got a PC and started to learn programming in GW Basic and Borland Turbo Pascal. Then, I moved to U.S. when the civil war started, got a Computer Science degree and started working as a programmer etc, etc. But a part of me still feels heavily nostalgic both towards the C64 and the Amiga 500's my friends had, and maybe if I'd had those instead of the Sinclair and the PC's, I would have had a much earlier start with computer music and could have gotten further ahead with it. Never too late, of course, but it sometimes makes me wonder how differently the future would have turned out.
I remember even with the 1542 floppy drive sublogic flightsim 2 took ages to load.
My first ever computer, very happy memories from simpler times
Great video! Epyx' Games series were awesome. I think California Games was my favorite, competition with friends was extra fun. Hard to stomach that this will be forgotten by the next generation. They won't search for "c64" and the video will be buried beneath heaps of tiktok-like crap. Guess I've officially transformed into an old fart 😀 Oh and I didn't know about the shift/runstop hotkeys, nice!
Haha, I know. Officially an old fart now. California Games was one of my favorites as well. We trashed so many joysticks playing all kinds of sports games.
Oh yes, the joysticks! I still love those with only one fire button. Who needs a controller with 16 buttons right?! Decathlon was a notorious joystick breaker. I remember having worn out a few joysticks but we pretty soon ended up with "The Arcade" by Suzo, apparently a Dutch company. Until this day it remained indestructible :-)
Old times, i remember doing this with my spectrum, thing is this was normal and we didn't know any different, people complain of load times now but that nothing compared to big games on cassette even worse if you spent ages loading in a game and the load bombed out halfway through so in the hope that you cleaned the tape head and tape path it would work then retry lol 😁 good old days.
Haha, I know the feeling. With the C64 you had to do the "Azimuth head alignment", where you tuned the cassette player with a screw driver once in a while. So after a while, you didn't know if there was a problem loading a game or if you had to adjust it. But still, good ol' days. :)
I love videogames.
Me and a friend were playing a game once in the living room and my mum unplugged the extension lead to plug the hoover in. She realised then tried to plug it back in thinking the game would still be there. Another long wait ahead.
What nostalgia. I can't believe we could wait that long before we could start gaming.
I was going to say we had nothing to compare it to, but... my class mate had the Nintendo 8-bit and you put the cartridge in and just played....
Didn’t you supposedly use screwdriver I remember loading my games way faster!
When commodore came out with the floppy disk, it was fast like lightning! Or at least it’s what I remember…😅
Yeah, that's what I thought as well. Got it the xmas after I got my C64.
I owned three games on cassette - Space Pilot took 22 minutes to load and every other time it failed to load, so basically 44 minutes every time I felt like playing.
The other two were Hovver Bovver and Frogger.
Ah yes a gamer kid in the 80's. Set your game to load, go outside for a game of football, back in to have your dinner then run upstairs to your room to see if it's loaded yet. It hadn't, but there was a cool picture of the box art of the game you'll be playing soon.
"the expectation of pleasure is itself the pleasure"
Brings back memories!!
When I recorded it, that's exactly what I felt. I think you can actually see my hands shaking a bit when I take out the cassette from its sleeve.
That is froogin’ nuts!
I still remember having a Vic20 and the Commodore datasette.
Perfect...good old days
Indeed it is :)
When kids (ie Us) had patience. Now they skip from one thing to another if nothing happens for 5 seconds! Loved my old C64
Have you still got it? Your old C64?
@@MickeKring No I sold it a long long long time ago. Loved that machine, seemed to be the start of proper computing and gaming when that arrived
Me and my friend used to spend hours typing the code into the vic20 from one of the gaming magazines of the time, just to find it didn’t work probably because we’d got 1 digit wrong out of many thousand !. Happy days.
Sensational. Makes me sad I didn’t look after my C64 as good as you did and it ended up in trash
And I even had a fully functional VIC-20 at my job that I threw away. Oh, how I regret that.
You think that’s bad I trashed my amiga 1000 & 2000 plus monitor due to not having any space in my bedroom. God! I wish I didn’t
Rule of thumb, the thinner the lines during loading, more chances to load successfully
this is amazing
I had a VC20 as a young boy and it took ages to load winter games 😂
I found an old VIC-20, fully funtional at work like 20 years ago. It had some games on cartridge. You wanna know the worst thing in the world. I threw it away in the dumpster. I still regret it to this day.
My radio Shack trs-80 color computer 2 was similar to this..did not have money to get the floppy disk drive..getting the cassette drive was alot cheaper but soooooo slow in loading saved files depending how big they were..I wrote lots of programs in BASIC😎👍nostalgia overload!
The nostalgia is strong in this one. For me, it was the C64. Both as an entertainment system with all games, but also as the start of coding. In Basic.
Is it loading now? Eh, kind of... we're waiting for it to load the loader first. Good times!
Never played World Games as a kid, but we played a lot of Winter and California Games, both in small and large groups of friends. Similar experience with the loading.
I felt pretty good about myself around those that only had the cassette loader because I had a floppy drive but felt like a punk to my mates with an Amiga
this is going back some years,Console I had in the 1980's,Put the casette tape in,Type in load game,Took for ever for a game to load up
I really like this video because of the loading time.
It's not possibile to remember C64 without it.
The only thing I disagree it's the fact that the game works properly after a biblical loading time...
Thanks!
Haha, yeah I know. How do you think I felt, when it worked the first time after being locked up in my basement for about 30-ish years. Without tuning the screw on the cassette tape. I guess it's quality long forgotten....
Man if we knew back then what we know today, then this would have been a thousand times more painful.
man alive! I dont remember it taking thiiiis long to load games! - I think this is a particularly slow example
I remember having the cassette for Pogo Joe (QBert knock-off), it took 11 minutes to load the game.
That why all of us had the pirated versions even if we owned the originals. :)
Underrated channel!
I grew up with the Commodore 64 but I never had the tape deck, we had the 1541 floppy disk drive and it was loud and took a while but man it was a lot quicker than the tape deck and here I thought the floppy took forever! Lol😂
Great memories I had so many good games!
i had both, i loved Zaxxon, but took forever on tape. Then, I think, I had the very first Transformers game and Ghostbusters game that came out on floppy.
Impossible mission took half an hour to load. I remember going and having lunch. Luckily by the time World Games came around I was on the disk drive.
And that's why you played the cracked games, even if you owned the originals. :) And also, I got the 1541 a year later. What a relief.
@@MickeKring Great video I would love to have my old 64 back and the disk box with my entire collection again. I imagine that's your 64 you kept all along? They are such hard things to find now, and very tightly held onto. Would love to find one to buy.
@@bigmaxy07 they are not hard to find. Plenty of them to order online.
@@bigmaxy07 Yep, but I also got a couple of spare C64 from work. They used to have the C64 as school computers back in the early 80's. I just miss my old 1541. It did not survive history.
"Shall we play XXX game?" " Naah it takes too long to load.. "
cool i just played it myself was going to do a review but ive got a problem with the pole throwing cant get much to happen and when he drops the pole on his foot i can get anything to happen and end up hitting the restore button and it goes back to main menu.See how u go with the pole throwing will ya?? :)
I’ll try it out later and will keep you posted. 😀