From Trash To Gold!!! (UPDATE VIDEO)
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My 2 cents about why engine busted, with the little info given here, it doesn't look like a lube problem or lack thereof. Older fuel without preservative loose their octane rating quite quickly, What the new owner should've done is over-mix octane booster in the fuel and fill the tank up with max octane rating gasoline + preservative. And of course pre-mix good quality 2stroke oil . If one runs low octane fuel, you get a high risk of power-robbing pre-ignition and worst, damaging detonation which cause massive spikes in pressure tin the combustion chamber hat no engine can endure for long. The results are generally burnt through pistons and broken connecting rods and sometimes crankshaft. No amount of extra 2 stroke oil would compensate for this. Ladies, gents, if your run your boats only on weekends, do yourself a favor, regularly add preservative to your fuel, you may very well save your engine by helping your fuel retain its octane rating. FYI octane rating on its own has nothing to do with more or less horsepower, It is a measure of the relative speed of the flame front in the combustion chamber after ignition. You do not want that flame front speed to go supersonic because this is called detonation not combustion and is extremely destructive. a higher octane rated fuel has a relative lower flame front speed than a lower octane rated fuel. hope this helps someone, Cheers!
Thank you for that detailed explanation. Not many people realize that the higher the octane, the slower the burn. This allows the mixture to enter the cylinder completely and burn at the most efficient and safe rate. This is even more important for a 2 stroke.
I'm new to all of this and that is great advice- gives me something to research more into. Thank you.
Good thought, sounds like voice of experience. Degraded old gas, pre-ignition, piston wrecks.
A hole in the piston is sign of detonation,specially at the spark plug tip.
Low octane fuel,or a too lean mixture do that ,and hot cylinder temperatures.
Maybe the old gas wich lost its octane rating,coupled with the fact that cylinders do not run at the same temperature depending on their position relative to each other and coolant circulation.
4 blades give you more low end torque, and 3 blades slip a lot more at low speeds but give you a higher top speed. I use three blades on my swing Marino
suspect last owner didn't know you have to put 2stroke oil in with the gas.. lol.. great vid..
Darren N on some of them you don’t. My 92 Mercury takes straight pump gas in the tank. On the side of the block there is an oil tank with lines going to the carburetors. Now the problem with that design that I never thought of is the mixer can fail. In fact that’s what happened to mine. I now have a ticking sound even with the premix fuel so I don’t use it
@@redneckwithajeep5001 Yup, the oiler system can fail especially if its old. On some 2 strokes you cant bypass it either and run straight premix. When it does fail, goodbye engine!
most of the time that will not cause a broken rod. That normally causes scored piston walls and loss of compression because the piston is not lubricated. Broken rod sounds like an over revving issue while running out of water. but anything is possible.
Ticks are bad but if ur not going to rebuild it use it may last alot longer then u think depending on what's wrong
@@AnthraxBird I premix mine just because of that. Been running it for a year like that on the weekends
I really admire you young guys. I still do this type of things myself. Like to see your setup some day.
Great put a GPS tracker on it and soon as that Mariner pukes you can track it down an repurchase it again! 👍🏼
i dont understand what that means.
@@MA-oo7fw Incase you still want to know. He suggested putting a GPS tracker on the boat, so in the event that the engine blows up again, they know where it is parked so they can re-purchase it again.
@@MA-oo7fw are you serious?
@MA NB: No reply - clever thinking but lacks morals . Thats the internet for U .
I believe the trim tabs slowed it down by putting more of the hull in the water. However the loss vs stability and ride should more than compensate for speed loss. Great job v2!
4 Blade prop = better hole shot but reduced top speed.
Just my two cents, but I would have sanded and sealed that wood instead of just staining it, and used a lighter color. I think it would have given a more finished look in the end. Anyway, wow you guys certainly fixed that poor thing right back up! I'd love to have been the guy to buy it off of you after the work you put into it. Lots of care and attention all around.
Great job guys
I was thinking The same thing about that wood finish would’ve been a lot better for being around water
The previous owner of my boat stained the teak and it looked terrible. I sanded them, used teak oil and spar varnish and it looks so much better. I will concede that there's probably a better way than that even, but I'm happy with how mine looks now.
Good one. I still haven't got my Grady with the 200hp yammi out on the water. The thing idles at 120 degrees...once I get on plane...about 2 minutes into it...my temp alarm goes off. I've changed the water pump, the thermostats....the heat sensors....The alarm still goes off.... I'm gonna pull the poppet valve off and clean it all good...blow some compressed air and some water up through the heads and down the rubber hose.
Hmm, same issue with me. Turned out to be thermostat stuck half open. Replaced thermostat and problem solved no more warning buzzer
I'm glad to see that you could use it again, only hope the next owner takes care of it this time
The boat looks good on the water. If you are getting to the red line for revs @ 40Mph you have lost top end speed but you will have more pull and get up and go low down. No worries unless speed is an issue for you. The 4 blade could still live on board it would be a great spare. If you raise the nose with the trim tabs and reduce your wet area your speed will increase. High speed plane on or about the last third of the hull or if all else fails a new prop.
Makes my heart flutter when I hear a motor wind up. Oh, how I miss that sound.
I love the old Mariners I have a 1990 mariner 135 V6 2 stroke and I am your biggest fan
She keeps coming back! I would like to see the post-mortem on the motor if it is worth it! Perhaps, you can find a spare powerhead for the might Mercury 2.5L.
Another great project. Those old boats can still have a lot of life left in 'em . . . .
Great video! I do the same thing you do and a guy brought back a boat I sold him after a few weeks,He blew up a two stroke 150 Merc. Admitted he ran no oil mixture in fuel (New to boating).SO Now I put it in writing before and try to video before leave my driveway. NICE JOB
the underside of cut slash on both sides dragging just a little bit. I think u could attach 6" PVC sealed pipe on both sides, & get 1 or 2 more mph, esp w/packing peanut foam inside the PVC.
Here’s a fun drinking game to play. Take a shot every time he says “whatnot”. 😂
You're not going to get the least bit drunk. He only says "whatnot" twice.
4 blade prop will give you holeshot but take away top end I'd go back with the 3 blade
That is what I was thinking. 4 blade for torque, and 3 blade for speed. Of course the pitch has an effect on that, so all other things being equal.
A escada estava acionada no teste. The stair be on in the test speed.
Congratulations good job.
Play with the trim tabs too.
Too much downforce on the trim tabs, makes for larger hull print on the water and slower speed.
Agreed, also trim the motor up a little so it rides more on it's ass
@@SwedesGarage Agreed. Somethings not right. I had a 200 Mariner on a 19ft tri hull and it would run 55mph with 3 people and a cooler full of beer.
Rain Coast I was thinking the angle was a wee bit too much, small trade in speed for stability....
Also from my experience with four blade props they are slower. But you get a better hole shot.
Put a electric fuel pump on the end of your fuel line from the under floor tank and pump it dry. Throw some metholated spirits in tank for a bit and pump it dry again. Top job guys.
2 things... Paint the dial panal black. Scrape that sticker off underneath it. And cut those wooden trailer slider back a bit where they are rotton and put new carpet on. Also I saw one of the speakers in the cabin was yellowing. Some things that would make it 100%
Ok that was 4 things
Can you lift up the new trim tabs, and trim up motor at high speed probably pick up another 5 to 6 mph try it. great video keep it up
Im waiting he trim up the motor!
Great work. Was it awkward buying the boat back from the people who blew up the motor?
He leaves out all the money details.
With the prop you have on is it operating at the correct RPM range
Amazing how good a 2 stroke is when you keep 2 stroke oil with the fuel, apparently they blow up if you don't.......
Yea I was thinking same. Bet the pumped 40 gallons of fuel and did get the mix right or didnt mix any in at all.
You totally brought this one back to life - good work!!
hey,
just fyi in florida most cities have a liquid disposal area at the dump. I know Tampa has. You can drop off old oils, paints, fuels incl gas and diesel and anything else you can think of short of nuclear waste 🙂
ahhhhhh ya gotta love the sound and smell of a 2 stroke
On Castor oil....
Darren one thing I would love to see on your uTubes is where you purchased it, individual or auction. Thanks love your videos!!
Kinda nice when you buy a boat, fix it up, sale it. Buy it back, fix it up even nicer than the first time and sale it again. I remember the first fix up on this ole girl.
Needs to be closed at the back with some glass work for serious offshore fishing. It's very common to get waves splashing over the transom mount and this boat has nothing stopping water coming in.
A lot of people don't know that you don't run straight gas in a two stroke motor.
Salt on earth. Some engines have a mixer. Mine does works great till it fails then you end up in my boat. Engine makes horrible sounds
That's what I was thinking about the blown motor...they didn't mix their fuel. Newbies learn lessons the hard way. lol
You mix oil with the gas the nice thing about it is you can flip the motor and you don’t have to worry about it unlike a 4 stroke
@salt on earth did they actually not mix the fuel lol
this is hilarious, I was watching your video and thought that lake looked familiar haha, I was just there a couple weekends ago. I live right around the corner from there.
wow thats some of the best drone footage ive ever seen
Great job on the boat. I do not care for the brown on the wood at all. Makes it look to cheap. High Gloss black acrylic would have made it pop and last longer.
Fantastic work...and so modest too. Loved it. Great music 🤗
That motor pushes that boat fast 40 mph nice.
It cuts very clean line up front & rear max-ed out on 4 blade running NOW, so might b hard to beat this set-up. Wish u tried old 3 blade just to see if diff motor made diff # full out, or same same as b4.
I have a fondness for classic walkarounds, glad you saved this one. It also shows how much boat you can have for very little money and some elbow grease. Nice job.
Keep up the good work, love it when you restore boats
The wood was the only thing that bothered me last time. Excellent job taking care of that!
On the old motor, did you do a re-break-in process on it? After a long period of time it’s always best to do a new break-in process again with it
A gas station near my house has an outdoor tank and they accept used oil and gas...even the county where I live has a facility of their own where residents can bring hazardous materials. I'd bet if you called the Fire Marshal's office in your area they could recommend somewhere to accept the old fuel. Nice video!
Another great video, thanks for posting! What did the previous owner "say" on how the Merc connecting rod broke (those older 2-strokes are bullet-proof)? Thanks again.....
If that is a hole in the piston that cylinder was running lean. I have seen this happen on older skis when they are run low on fuel the rear carb starves for fuel and melts the piston.
Outstanding work!
Great job guys and very well presented filmed and edited video. Can you do one on the drone you are using, i'm impressed with its spead stability and operation as well as the quality which is a camera system in itself.
Did you get my message from when you took the reservoir off and the pump off the 2 stroke. The question was will it work the same for a Yamaha 130hp 2stroke
Nice, you rebuy repair then resale.. Good job of getting it cleaned and detailed
Love the old Mariners
Again well done, and again someone else’s lose is your gain. It’s a nice style of boat especially when it’s on the water.
Did the new owner realise it’s a two stroke? Lack of lubrication may cause a rod to seize to the crank and break but you won’t know until you pull it down. If there are nice shades of blue on the crank then that may be the cause. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
Most likely the oil feed line to the cylinder was clogged causing catastrophic failure
Man I love the older boats. You made that one look amazing..twice!
Love the videos! I just moved to Manatee River area and hope to get a boat soon. Til then I live vicariously through you!
You definitely brought the boat back from the dead. Great work 👍👌
Never stain the wood just use teak oil on teak wood
He can do what ever he wants. It`s his boat, not yours.
The teak oil looks 100% better and is much better for teak wood.Just a friendly word of advice for a young guy from an old guy that has redone many old boats . So don't get your pantys in a bunch.Poul Just trying to help the guy out.
@@allendabold5611 I saw that one too 😁. That said the wood was pretty beat up and the stain was an improvement. I like the mahogany look allot!
awesome flying with the drone....I am guessing your in the cabin..??? thumbs up !!!!
1FM
Lake George, NY
burn "rotten" gasoline one gallon at a time - run it thru a coffee filter when you siphon it out.
Watch for water while you separate it, as Ethanol absorbs water from the air.
Put it in your truck or wife's car or mower blended with fresh gas. (If it's turned to varnish, take it for FREE disposal at your County land-fill - - don't dump old gas on the ground or pour down the drain)
Trim that motor and tabs .That setup should do more. The back third of the boat should be in the water, not half of it.
Not for a boat that big
That's about what my Grady does. It's got a 200hp Yamaha 2 stroke. The boat ramps right now are insane around here...Seminole is under construction...It sucks!
What kind of sealer did you cover those wood pieces with?
Dang it was this merc that fried! Thought it was the older one lol
Still a gorgeous boat! I like the look of that Mariner!
Pump the tank out with a Mighty Vac. Works well...
Did you repurchase it for the same price you sold it? Did the person who bought from you contact you and ask for their money back? Just curious
I think you don't need an answer for this.
It was a used boat not a purchase from walmart.
More boat buy and flips these are great very entertaining..and you dona great job..
Four blade props tend to be more fuel efficient but give less top speed.
I am now subscribed! It was hard to watch the Yamaha abuse in your other video, but sweet to see how well it held up. This has been a fun series to watch too! Where in Florida are you located? I could love to do some kind of compilation video with you...
chud327 he lives in Gulfport I think or somewhere near there
You do a fine job sir.Thankyou.
Was the engine running within the manufacturer's specified WOT (Wide Open Throttle) range with that 4 blade SS Prop?
Had that problem on my boat. Checked the rpms and it was only running 3,900. Went down in pitch by 1 and it went to 4,900. Engine tops at 5,000 rpm so it's just perfect. A decent increase in top speed as well.
Wow! Good job guys!! 🤩 You gotta do something bout that gas tank tho. 🤔
What app are you using for speed?
Your trim tabs are plowing through the water. A hydraulic jackplate may help with top end also.
That says a lot about your business efforts and I would have no trouble purchasing a boat of u as for the person that blew the motor up well you have to wonder
I know this is older but it is easy to get rid of old gas pump it into a open top 55 gal drum a light it it will burn off.
Ive seen this before, usually happens if:
1. tank oil lines become loose / crack apart or become disconnected
2. oil tank sensor fails
3. they put the wrong oil (motor/gear oil)
4. total idiots run without any 2 stroke oil in the oil tank
A fix for the oil tank sensor failing is to delete it and mix the oil and gas at a 50 to 1 ratio. I have done that to all my 2 stroke boat engines and have had no problems. My favorite 2 stroke is the 90s plain Johnson motors
Get rid of that trim fin bolted to the lower unit gain 4-5 mph, don't need it now that you have trim tabs.
Let me see if I got this, you sold it, they blew it up and you took it back and put another engine on it for them or what's the deal. I'm just curious. You answered my question at the end of the video, thanks. Personally that's something I wouldn't have done, especially after a month had passed. Hope to didn't pay full selling price....
Thanks for the video.
Fast drone too!! =)
I've learned that once you get up on plain if you raise the motor just a little bit you can gain another 4-5 mph or maybe more with that big motor. Try it out. Not much just a couple quick thumb bumps on the trim. You will here the engine room raise and you will go faster
That’s a pretty common thing to do. When you do that your taking more of the boat out of the water causing less drag allowing the boat to work easier but if you take the prop to far out of the water the boat will start to porpoise and then you know you’ve gone to far. But I’m sure you know all of this I’m just saying for other people
Right that's why I mentioned just a couple thumb bumps on the trim. I noticed in the video the motor appeared to be all the way down and he was running 40. So I thought I'd throw a tip that maybe he wasn't aware of. You are correct if you raise it to far you will lose power. But just a little bit you'll gain a few mph
I can't believe they jacked the motor up so fast. How much did they pay you for it and how much did you buy it back for?
I sure like little boats 16 to 18’ open . Love to fish inshore. Johnnie
Nice results with the boat. 4 blade prop is like multiple engines, it doesn't make you faster it just gets you out of the hole a bit faster. Not you fault its a common misconception
Looks like that cylinder was running extremely lean and burnt the center of the piston out and connecting rod let loose from the piston
Cracked carb boot or intake leak mabye
Nice work 👍🏻 your the man 👍🏻 🤩 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
All mercs used to be “great running motors”...till they weren’t 😂.
when you are pressure water washing the interior how do you get rid of the water that stays there
There is a drain in the boat.
Get a 55 gallon drum and remove it with a long fuel line attached to a 12v external fuel pump and another long length of fuel line. Have clean harbors or whoever deals with that around you remove it. Be careful doing it of course because the pump needs power.
I love these cuddy style boats that you're always buying.
Beautiful restoration!! What do you do with the boats you fix. How much do you sell for?? I see you are very dedicated.
I live in the area, I watched the first video and thought. 🤔 I'll look on Craigslist for a boat, and seen this one for sale. The first time.😄
Great job on it though 👍👍
Never knew Custom Craft made this model! Back in the day, everyone and their neighbor had a Custom Craft.
Gday mate, just a little tip for ya about your wing thing just above your prop that u have on, that thing makes you go slower and is only trying to make your bout smoother which your trim tabs will do now
Motor looks like could b mounted 3+" higher, the 4 blade really digs in deep.
Put the 3 blade back on. 4 blade for hole shot but 3 blade high end send it to bblades in Princeton Wisconsin
You guys always do such beautiful work, video production as well. Love the transformation and updates you do to these old boats.
I have a 2002 Mercury 150L CARB V6 and 2002 Mercury 150XL CARB V6. Can I take the Lower unit off the 150XL and replace it with the lower unit from the 150L?
Sorry for reviving an old video lol How does this boat do in choppy water? I'm looking at a Sea OX but has the same layout but an inboard outboard motor. Just curious how it does in choppy water
can you tell me some thing more about this boat. for instance the length, the make... company that made it, year of the boat .. the reason for asking i really like this small compact boat and wondering how well it would do out at sea ..
40 is nothing to be ashamed of, however once you get going, raise the trim just a little and the ROMs will come up and the boat will go faster. I'll bet you can get 45+.