Axial Ryft with Hobbywing Axe 3300kv R2
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- čas přidán 10. 03. 2021
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I like you trying different things to dial in the rig! It's a Rock Racer with a bunch of Power!! It reminds me allot of my Daughters Redcat Windigo!! That rig is a blast! I noticed comments about changing this rig to a crawler, but this is NOT what it is! You want a crawler Buy a crawler!!! This thing looks like a blast to drive and bash around on rocks and hills. Tune it, add a sway bar and rip it!! Stay safe and bash on from Colorado!!!
Right on man, it won't be a good crawler at all until we get the low 1st gear option to put into it. Then it will get better.
Great review and test 👌. I really appreciate you putting the time in. It saves us alot of wondering what if.
Like crawling than speed, idk...new to this ,I do like crawling though...thank you for all demo,illustrations views 👍☕️☕️✌️also I might add I'll be shopping around and make my decision, I'm flavorings your setup but with 4ws
Not really a crawler guy, more of a racer/basher but i sure love your videos my friend! Great job!
That update actually made a huge difference for mine. I have it in my VS410 pro.
Totally awesome ❤
Awesome videos my friend!
Nice work looks good 👍
Great infor for Ryft. I would like to try it as you did👍
Very nice review. Thank you
jsut put this combo in my TRX4 2021 Bronco. happy with it so far. smooth and fast kinda want a ryft
Wish there was a roller to start out with get the price point down a little bit nice job keeping up with tune in👍
There is a roller.. Comes in a kit
Those things drive right out the box. Jk we opened one up at our local hobby shop and its electronics come pre junked.
Great stuff 👍🏽
I have the V1 3300kv AXE in my Predator Gen 8! After watching the video, I would say it is better in a crawler!
Very nice 😊😊😊👍
Gotta love homework. 😂 great video! 💯
I NEED to see this thing Perform.
You will see that soon. The thing that’s needed the most is a rear Swaybar.
@@ExocagedRC
You rock bro. Who else shows us this stuff first hand. You do 😁😁😁😁😁
Good video showing what the Ryft is, and is not.
Asmr on the crawl up the rocks
Oh man, I had high hopes for this on the rocks. I have that 3300kv R2 ready and waiting.
Maybe instead of the Rift for the crawl/rock racer/basher all-rounder I should steer back toward the Bomber!
Bomber is good for sure. Once they get the low gear set for the trans it will make this a whole lot better.
I agree I get better amp hours on 2s, seems 3s even larger mah still use faster.
Nice rig, that things like a wraith on steroids lol
An interesting thing to try would be a Magnum and BRXL or maybe just an 8T Crawlmaster
Uhhhh I can already smell the smoke
@@ExocagedRC why? 8T Crawlmaster not designed for that RPM?
I have heard drag racers rave about hobbywing...maybe they do something diffrent, but I have never seen anybody doing real reviews say "wow that hobbywing had all kinds of power". Castle with a holmes motor always turns out so good.
this axe r2 is a good system, just not right for this vehicle. Funny you mention Castle and Holmes.... I record that tomorrow evening...
When I think of powerplant. I think closer to the HW XR8 SCT and maybe the 4300kv combo. but it would be fast. so maybe the 3000kv area or 2700kv motor.
Turn the throttle increase rate up to 9 and it'll be alot snappier. I've got this system in my cen f450, and that is also not geared for crawling but I'm working on that. But I still love the axe system in it. But if you want that punch try turning it up a bit I'd even try bumping the timing up, (I havnt had any heat issues by turning mine up) only takes a min to try it.
I think it already is at 9
@@ExocagedRC I heard you mention the delay it has. With mine turned up to 9 and the timing bumped up a bit it has no noticeable delay. Itll pull wheelies with my cen f450.
About to build a Ryft Kit. It will be a true scale rock bouncer but it would be nice to have sensored low speed ability still.
The castle whine drives my absolutely nuts lol. Thoughts on others? Hobbywing XR8?
Hey so I've got a couple questions about a good ECU, motor combo and servo any ideas??
Mamba X with 2850kv motor on 3S is liked by many bouncer guys. or the Tekin RX4 with a Pro4 HD 3100kv would be a great battle! HINT HINT? as Im on the fence as to which one to get for the Ryft.
Awesome, thank you. I have just started looking at this power plant combo. I wonder how it would work in the RR10 Bomber?
I run the r2 2100kv on 3s in my bomber and a trx4 sportish used for trails and crawling. Loved it till I got a fusion pro. Fusion pro is way more consistent at slow speed in my opinion unless I'm missing something in settings.
I'm running the R2 540L in my AXE and it is awesome !
Could try out the Castle SCT extreme combo, the 2400kV 3670 sized motor has tons of torque and enough wheel speed on 3s. I run it on my bomber and its been working very well for crawl/ trailing with the stock transmission ratios.
I’ve got something else cooking for it.
Mamba X and puller pro 2700kv V2 for the win on 4S!
Funny you mention that, how about a Monster X and 2100kv Holmes? Hehehehe I should be able to record that this weekend. Already started the instal part.
I have been runnung the v1.1 3300 kv Axe in my ryft for a while now with a 13 tooth and yeah its a bit soft and wondering if a bit of timing in it might help?
Exo, there should be a punch setting for the new AXE ESCs. I didn't see you come across it in your video.
I went through everything I saw. The acceleration rate was at 9.
The Axe got the axe! Lol
😀😂
How about Holmes puller 4100kv? Thinking about trying that in my Bomber next. My 1406 and 1410 3800kv castles both overheat after too many laps racing in the summer.
I’m installing and should be driving this with a Monster X and Holmes 2100kv soon.
I would put my money on a HH Puller Pro L with a Mamba Monster X. And some tungsten weighs in the front receiver box
Holmes is going in with a monster x. Don’t know about the added weight though
@@ExocagedRC have you had much experience with Holmes? I am looking to the future in turning my Wraith Spawn into a tough rig with speed for bouncing, and some crawling. I noticed HH offered some good deals on packages, under $230! Really knocks the price down on the Mamba Monster, and definitely seems affordable. I've got alot to learn before doing it, but it looks like HH really puts out a quality motor.
Holmes puller pro r 4100kv on 3s in my trx6 killed my mamba x esc. Monster x had no issue with it. It drew 150+ amps.
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It has a lot more drag brake than the standards I run in my trx6 (now) and Capra. Once I got a proper truck to bash (erevo 2.0) I decided to mellow out the trx6 with a 3500kv puller pro. The 4100 was nearly as smooth as the standards, but has about 50% more power (1800 watts vs 1200 all else equal).
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If you have the gear reduction, the 4100kv 3s system has more rpm so you can get more control with the same wheel speed. Or run the 2100kv one on 6s since it’s a little more rpm than the 4100 on 3s.
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That’s the motor I thought of for this to be honest. But you need a better gear ratio. Like a 10th pinion. It wasn’t too happy with taller gearing since the motor draws current so easily it just unloads (builds torque quickly with little throttle input)
yep on all that, I have the 2100kv Holmes in there now with stock pinion and a monster X, I hope to drive it tomorrow after work.
@@ExocagedRC awesome, can't wait to see how it works. I really wanted to buy a bomber just for the Puller Pro R motor, so this will be so close to that.
I knew you’d try the axe first 😂😂
LOL I wanted it to be THE setup, but its not.
Try the tekin rx4 with a 412roc hd 3100 Kv
why does my axe 3300kv system stalls when iam in low gear? is it a calibration issue?
Could you recommend a setup motor/esc and gearing to make the ryft a good trail/ crawler?
Yea, buy a crawler or trail rig
it simply wont crawl well until we get the low gear option for it. Its geared way too fast as it is to really crawl.
So you can run 2S on the ryft?
What would you recommend doing to the ryft for it to become primarily a crawler? Asking for a friend
Well enjoy it for what it is for now. Once they get the low gear set for the trans it will make this a whole lot better.
What moter do i need for a ryft to go 45 mph.
I'm running Hyrax 2.2 Predators in front, G8 in the rear, and even with the Spektrum system it is a capable climber.
Hey Joe, another great video as always. Can you post the brand name of the hex drivers you used on this mod. I need to buy a quality set. The Traxxas set I purchased is very poor quality as the tips are starting to wear down fast.
There are two out there now. I have the Bowhouse RC tool set in this video as it can fit the 1/4” impact driver. Reefs just came out with a nice one as well with a smaller hex but it has a 7mm nut driver on it for wheels.
@@ExocagedRC OK thanks, much appreciated.
where did you get the M1 pitch motor pinion with the 3.17mm hole ? 🤔
This motor has a 5mm shaft
Hey. I wonder to buy this axe combo. Most I order som pinion too? Please help me fast. They only have one motor and esc combo left where I buy things. 😊
Dude! Do you have an off button?😂😂
You’re firing these videos out quicker than I can watch them!!,
Definitely need to something about the gear ratio for crawling, I love the R2 system, but it really wasn’t happy in the Ryft🤷♂️
LoL I record almost every single day. On a good day off I have coming up I usually get 5-7 videos and then it’s just editing and stuff
@@ExocagedRC respect ✊
I need to up my game for sure, but with lockdown (no racing etc) and working 60+ hours a week, and then family life... it’s a struggle to come up with something interesting 🤷♂️
Do you have made the calibration of the motor before the updated of the esc?!
I had calibrated before, in the past if the motor isn’t paired to the esc it simply won’t run at all. At least that’s my experience with these axe systems.
@@ExocagedRC the system is not good att all or is not good for this rigs?
I will be Preloading the shocks internally to try and get the CG down a bit, and adding Desert Lizards to the rear for a dual shock arrangement.
NOS SONIC SOUR IS THE SHIT!
How do you think that HW Axe would do in the Radcat Wendigo? I have one and it's looking for a roller.
Good but probably a bit weak.
@@ExocagedRC Thanks friend!
I'll be running my 4S, it's all I have right now for the RYFT
I can always dial it back in the ESC
And is this combo still good? Sry for all messages 😊
Hi, I am still thinking - should I go with an Xerun XR8 SCT Combo with 3660-3200kV or should I get a Hobbywing Axe 3300kv R2 for my Ryft Kit?? Can you recommend please? 👍
XR8 and 3200kv. I’ve tried the axe 3300 twice and didn’t like it.
@@ExocagedRC Great, thank you for your quick response :-)
Does Vitavon have axle housings specifically for this vehicle? I just broke my front axle.
Yep sure does
they re out but I think the first run was by Pre Order. Axial also released a message to contact customer support and they will send you new Housings. They are aware of the issue with the housings and are working with the manufacturer to figure out what the issue was.
@@roberttruesdell6151 I just talked with horizon hobby they sent a replacement for me. But I did glue and reinforce the original axle and it seemed to work. I'm sure axles for the ryft will hot this year from aftermarket companies.
That 2s setting in my speed , do you sell your changed items
I’m hoping to become a dealer for Vitavon.
Is castle the one that has that annoying ringing. Cuz it’s so annoying. It was nice to hear this without the ringing that (I think it’s castle esc) has,
yes Castle is LOUD
@@ExocagedRC Why not use the other brand that I think u have?
The HW axe is quiet but that’s not the right system for everything. I wish castle was quiet I really do.
@@ExocagedRC U put castle in like everything lol I liked that silent one u tested that one time.. that was cool
Not so impressive with the changes. I'll take the cogging for now. Great to see you trying different stuff tho.
The cogging is really bad on these systems. Same with lasernut and LMT.
Its actually downgrading of Ryft purpose/performance with that 3200kv...
#1!😁
Don't you have some voodoo super sticky 2.2's to put under that rig!!
I do but heck the stock tires are really good.
What castle system did you say .
Right now it has a Monster X and Holmes 2100kv but I haven't got the drive in yet.
@@ExocagedRC I'm considering that with 2200kv 1515
I've been posting this same upgrade idea after having my RYFT for only 24hours, Not impressed with the Spektrum System. At least I can see it done before I do mine
Yeah I’ll be recording a Holmes 2100 and monster x soon
I have my Capra setup for 20mph on 4s running a mamba x puller pro 2700kv. It crawls very well. I use the max power adjustment and auto drag brake 100% to adjust my wheel speed on my controller.
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Math says you’ve gone from 42mph to 39mph. You’d need a 9tooth pinion to reach 25mph.
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Holmes says gear down and volt up. You get more crawl control running a higher voltage and lower gearing for the same mph. I can get 30mph with 6s on my Capra, but it’s just way too much. I mostly use 15mph 3s.
So possibly dumb question. But I don't really understand why is it rocking so bad?
The FOC control tries to hold the rotor in a locked position, its not like a normal drag brake, the gearing is so wrong for this setup that its moving the rotor and the esc is doing its thing to correct it.
@@ExocagedRC ohhhh okay that makes sence! Thanks for the good explanation!
And if. Can you link me a pinion that fit? 🙏🙏
13t pinion with 5mm bore
@@ExocagedRC thanks man!
@@ExocagedRC Which module does the pinion have?
Man. U have out the code to fight club. 888..,
LoL we don’t talk about that here.
Do you want to sell the original motor and ESC?
Where's the "Take a Look" ? i liked hating that...
You do realise you swapped hobbywing for hobbywing? I've chatted with spektrum team for a while and they outsource their esc production to guess who :D Only real diff is the fact you lost lots of amps on esc and got the sensor.
Of course it’s HW making both. Spektrum has been tweaked HW stuff for years.
@@ExocagedRC Their esc's are like 1 year old :P
You can get more punch out of it in the ESC Settings
It was set on 9. The gearing is so fast on this I feel that was the issue.
No he didn’t he couldn’t figure out he put the gear in backwards in his scx10 III
And the math I’m talking about are gear ratio’s. Duh!
Such a uninteresting vehicle, almost everytime I would see a use for it and the fun but the rift is a big no no for me
This thing reminds me of a Losi product
Shitty power system, weak parts, open diffs
Could have told you that the hobbywing was NOT the way to go. learn your math!
learn what math?
he did the math correct
You know nothing about motors or gear ratios