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Ford Shelby GT500 v Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 : Street & Circuit - /CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2012
- The two muscle-motors of the moment, head-to-head. Hard to imagine a factory warranted Mustang with 670hp, or a State-subsidised 580hp Camaro!
"It's not some tuner nonsense! This comes with a warranty!" That had me crackin' up.
You should watch his review with the Z28. "No bullshit paddles and exhaust tricks. Just a good old American V8". I was dying 😂😂😂😂
From a price point to value; The Americans are building the best Sports Cars in the World.
By far best price for performance
@@bh1775 straight line performance at least
@@meemdoggoriginallongdrink the 2013 GT500 takes the turns faster than the same year model Porsche 911 Turbo. So much for your worn out straight line performance cliche. But by all means, keep assuming modern American performance cars are the same thing they were from the 1970s.
@@Steve_Milo not true the 997 turbo is much faster around the track than the gt500 stop being silly u can’t compare the two because of the insanely different price points these cars have
@@vaioskoutis7998 stop being silly. I said the 2013 GT500 is faster in the turns than the Porsche 911 Turbo, not the Porsche 997.
The 2013 Porsche 911 Turbo has a base price of $138,000. The 2013 GT500 has a base price of $55,000. Their price points are insanely different, the Porsche is almost triple the price, but the GT500 beats it in every performance category.
I can compare cars of insainly different price points all I want, it is not my fault Porsche makes a sports car that is far more expensive than Ford and slower both in turns and in a straight line. Obviously the more expensive sports car should be faster, especially when it is almost three times the price of a different sports car. But it is slower. So sad.
Maybe this fact just embarrasses Porsche fans so you try to make excuses about price point. Sorry, comparing sports cars to sports cars is fair no matter the price point. I did not compare a hypercar to a sports car which would not be fair.
You have been defeated by facts, have a nice day.
I'm a Mustang guy but respect the Camaro too. Both bad ass cars and wouldn't complain about either one. Keep it coming America.
Thats how I am Im a diehard GM person but im realistic as well i would take a GT 500 any day if someone offered one to me
Guess I'm the aberration. I'm more of a mustang guy than camaro, but you couldn't pay me to own either of these cars. Both way too heavy, no matter how much power they have.
@@LBigJake14 Finally someone sensible when it comes to Chevy and Ford. Good on you bud.
Sean who cares if they weigh 10 million pounds as long as the have the power to move them and brakes to stop them....
Love this guy's review, glad to hear an European who can respect American cars and not bash them. On the other hand if you think the GT500 has a lot of power let's get him a GT500 Super Snake, 850 HP
"But in the land of muscle, bad is good. And the GT500 is the baddest of all"- Chris Harris. One of the best quote ever haha
I'm a Chevy guy but I love the GT-500 as well. That much power for that much money can't be beat.
I agree both cars are such a bargain!
They're both good. But with my Biased opinion toward Mustangs Id take the GT500s
There are no losers here. Both of these cars are ridiculous.
FINALLY A British / European That GETS American MUSCLE! I love this guys reviews - he is awesome, and should replace Jeremy Clarkson on top gear.
I agree, I would actually love to see Jay Leno take over the show. He gives great, honest, and unbiased feedback on cars.
Andy H jay leno is boring as shit to me. He talks more than driving. He needs to run the cars not his mouth.
christian oseguera
well considering he does his reviews on public roads i think it speaks volumes for his common sense.
Dont think for a minute he would not ride them hard and put them away wet when on a track.
have you seen the videos of Leno racing cars on a track? he is a great driver.
Also watch his interview with Jeremy Clarkson..
Gabriel Howard yea he can drive but he is hella boring to me. The guys from Drive are the best so far in terms of car review, testing, giving feedback etc but Jay Leno is good but at talking. until he does much more racing, testing etc I wont watch his videos lol
*****
I like leno, maybe it's may age lol
This is my favorite episode. Ive probably watched it 10 times.
Chris laughs and smiles so much in this video. One of his best.
ZL1- better handling.
GT-500- faster in a straight line.
The end.
@@BIGC728 for real, Savage you sound like a moron. Both are awesome cars, if anything it's motor Vs electric.. we are in the golden years for the V8
Conor Mcgregor what are you saying dude the gt350 has nothing to do with anything
Zsavage1 oh nowadays the 6th gen camaro still have 6.2 engine now there lighter and faster than your new 6th gen mustangs. A stock Malibu 2.0t can gap all these old stangs and that shitbox Ford Focus st.
Navikesh Naidu you forget what a gt500 super snake is? 2014 with 850hp
@Zsavage1 NATURALLY ASPIRATED MY ASS
2012 FORD MUSTANG SHELBY GT500
Base price: $54,995
Price as tested: $63,080
Powertrain:Supercharged and intercooled, port-injected 5.8-liter DOHC, 32-valve V8 with variable valve timing; six-speed manual transmission; rear-wheel drive with limited-slip rear differential
Chris, you are a great reviewer indeed. Finally a European who understands what American Muscle is all about, its raw, its scary, its about torque and hp throwing you around, taming the beast. Both are amazing cars, one is more livable and somewhat more refined but still packs a hefty punch, the other one is insanity galore, just brute power and fun. In the end, no matter what flag you fly, both are awesome cars.
Drove both and they're awesome! I do love the GT500 shortshift.
Luke McGhee Did 900 miles over the course of 3 days in the GT500. It is quite terrible, and the trans will drive you up the wall.
ABOlsen69X sure you did bud,you can smell the bias from a mile away on you.
onebad SS Bias? Sure, I'm not a Ford guy. I just say it as I see it. I don't know what your experiences are with this car. If you had good ones, good for you. I didn't.
ABOlsen69X if you had the gt 500 maybe you just wernt ready for its power, think of it like this, theres not always comfort with alot of power. a mans car never was meant to be comfy it was meant to make you as mean as can be which is why this gt500 is a true mans car. notice how he enjoyed driving the camaro due to its comfort which in the end didn't amount to the power of the shelby. we live for power, they make "luxury cars" for a reason.
Joshua Forgy So of a guy with a family buys an c63 Mercedes, or an M4, both with a lot of power, or kicks the ass of the Mustang on the track since they still cannot corner with GM products, who's the real man vs the boy?
I think the Shelby is better looking wbu
Chris Harris is such a cool dude, out of all the top gear casts new and old, i would hang out with CH.
I was in Ottawa 2003 August the flat where I was staying was full of candles. Owner was lovely Anglican chap.
I just picked up a 13 ZL1 triple black convertible with under 30k miles on it... it's amazing.
a classic confrontation Mustang vs Camaro, the only thing missing is a Dodge lagging behind spitting oil and connecting rods out of the oil pan...
Think what will happen to all the poor Hellcat drivers in 5 years after the warranties run out...
Hahahaha, if there is one thing chevy and ford guys can agree on that is it
Dude, the new Hellcat will eat these two on the road and track
Abdullah Almosawy BUT, how long will the Dodge hold together? We already know the Ford and Chevy can be thrashed all day and then driven home.
Haha Jammer I was gonna say the same exact thing.
Engine screams and begs to be put into a new GT40. Mustang is good and all, but its no Corvette and Ford needs to create something to compete with it.
Jason Flitton
Just imagine this in an a chassis built for handling, speed, aerodynamics and looking like sex on four wheels.
Jason Flitton That article is wrong, scooter. The Challenger Drag Pak is a MUCH faster car. The Mustang CJ runs 8.9's-9.0's in the 1/4. The Challenger Drag Pak runs high 7's.
Jason Flitton That's fake... and it's not even street legal...
Jason Flitton u don't get it that things like 1800 HP he's saying ford should bring back the ford gt to compete with the vette
BloodstainedSinner I have seen the 2012 or 13 cj run low 7s
it's ZEDL1 because it was built in Canada.
The Top models ZL1 ZR1 CTS-V are all hand built in Michigan.
Mass produced vehicles like the trucks, have their bodys assembled in Canada.
Engines and transmissions are all made in America.
yah eeh' lol
Think you'll find the camaro is built on the zeta platform which was built and designed in Australia for the Holden commodore mate.
Chris your reviews are just so bang on.... muscle cars: bad = good.... =D
"it would shave my testicles" 😂😂😂😂 that got cracking lol
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First reaction was: Heavy pigs with no real track-performance ! But just checked the "Sport-Auto" facts: The Shelby GT500 does the Hockenheim-Ring in about 1:15 min. Respect !
Chris Harris, this is one of the best camaro vs mustang reviews I've ever heard. You accepted the muscle car culture, realizing that it's not about cruising or luxury, but scaring the kids and doing burn outs in a school zone
Finally a european car reviewer that gives american cars a reasonable chance
I agree with hartsick. I have a 2012 mustang gt. It's awesome. Handles much better than you would think for a live rear axle and the 5.0 coyote engine is 412 hp. With a new cold air intake and tune and rear end gears this thing is easily a 12 second car. The performance and looks for the price is unbeatable.
I also have a 2012 GT with an Air Raid Cold Air Induction system, 85mm throttle body, Flow Master Catback system, & 3:73 gears. As it now sits, there are very few cars I can't destroy on the street. I just purchased a Boss 302 manifold & a Barton Industries short throw linkage. The linkage on my manual tranny is the only weak point on the car. Can't wait to get these in my car. I'm from the old school where the car that got from Point A to Point B in a straight line won. And you're right; you can't beat the price. Dollar for dollar the Mustang is the best muscle car, period.
Victor Caisse I have a 5.0 Coyote Mustang GT as well. Bone stock, 2011-14 Mustang GT is a mid 12-second car with a decent launch on street tires. I did 12.63 and 12.65 on back to back runs on street tires, and my car has a 3.31 rear end. MGW shifter is the cat's ass.
hartsickdisciple About a month ago I had an Edelbrock E-Force Stage II supercharger installed on my car. It's supposed to deliver 646 hp thru the stock exhaust. However, I don't think the tune that Edelbrock supplied me with is worth a shit. I've found a place about 4 miles from home that has an engine dyno. My car is going there Monday to get dialed in. I wonder what my car could do at the quarter mile once I get the supercharger dialed in. My old 69 Mach 1 with a Cobra Jet could only muster 14.30 at our local drag strip. It had 4.30 gears. The new stangs are miles ahead of the old technology. Have a good one!
Roger Beutler Your car is going to be a monster.
Victor Caisse Have a MBRP race exhaust, 4.10 gears, JLT CAI and tune and I am sitting at 12.6 in an A6 leaving it in Drive. Have race headers and x pipe on the way, hoping with radials and a retune I can get to the low 12s
He looks scared driving the Shelby
Arturo Quintero LIVE REAR AXEL
You have to be scared when driving something that has 631 pounds of torque, real wheel drive with only 285’s on the rear.! Shit
@@quentonmillstid850 Control arms and watts link man
I used to work at a Ford dealer and drove a customer's when it came into service. It's...a lot lol even at low speeds around the lot it's just difficult
Chris Harris is my favorite person to hear review a car because he is simply a true car enthusiast, he is never bias.
Chevrolet's investment in the Corvette and the Nurburgring development team has paid off, the Camaro has been having the Ring treatment for several years. Ford and Chrysler's response is to throw more horsepower at the problem. The ZL1 has near 100 hp less 100 kg more weight but is 2 seconds faster, that is a well sorted car.
+James Young Are you talking about the new ZL1 vs the 3-4 old GT500 or are you talking about the current ZL1 vs the last 13/14 GT500? If I remember correctly the GT500 had a faster time something like 7:40 vs the ZL1's 7:41...quarter mile it was like GT500's 11.6 vs 12.2..and top speed GT500 202mph vs the ZL1's 184mph. That's a pretty big gap in all regards, but for the most part none of us are professional drivers so all that matters if one personally likes the car:).
The current GT350R does the Nürburgring in 7:32.19. The z/28 did it in 7:37 (ZL1 did it in 7:41). As far as "throwing hp"...well look at the current camaro or even the new Z06...they added a supercharger to compete in the hp wars. The highest end mustang now is a naturally aspirated motor (no power adders) and it is stomping other cars on the ring with more hp as well. I do agree with you about the corvette..fantastic car..whether it is a regular stingray or the z06...
Mmmmm the roar of that 5.0 screaming in the air begging to just tear the streets up. I buy Muscle for power and speed, not for luxury and comfort. Ford Mustang all the way
The Shelby is a 5.8L. The GT is 5.0.
But why not pay a bit more and get Power, Speed, Luxury AND Comfort?
Hell, why not have Ford make a Mustang that is Powerful, Fast, Comfortable and has Good Interior?
They did it's called the 2015 mustang
EliteOpossum5
Which is why I love the 2015 Mustang.
It still looks like a proper Mustang, but it isn't held back by all these notions of "oh a Muscle car has to feel shit", or "a Mustang has to have a Solid Rear Axle", or "a Mustang can't have a nice interior".
THE FUCK?!?
*****
I hear rumors that it'll have a Flatplane crank Twin-turbo V8.
Can you confirm or deny that?
When he was talking about the live axle over bumps, life flashed before my eyes hitting a bump going 140 on the highway with my dad's car
2013 GT500 as well~
One awesome thing about the Shelby is that you can ADJUST THE SEAT. Come on man!
Ppl need to understand when I comment I scroll theiugh and read everyone's comment before I say anything. I advice you do the same.
I love my 5.0 Stang Gang
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one of my favorite video on the entire CZcams server.
Anybody who still says "no replacement for displacement" is absolutely brain dead.
The Mustang is like sex with no condom.
GT500 in every way is just a fuckin beast
Subscribed to your channel. Keep up the good work.
even when I feel like Chris's stock can not rise with me any higher.. because he has topped out.. he makes America look good.. well, our Family across the Pond has always been more refined and as a result more kind.. but the hard part was not coming off as condescending when describing our Sledgehammers vs the finely honed tools Chris plays with on the regular.
Thank You for not blowing smoke up our ass Christopher.. and God Love You and God Bless You for your Gracious Refinement.
If I think of muscle I think of fast drag races not to much around a track
Me too! but i think fast drag with the germans too, look at the 911 turbo, its a monster.
These new american cars handle pretty good now!
i would much rather have the shelby. I'm more of a ford guy anyway. It seems like the zl1 is more of a comfortable car to drive but that shelby is downright nasty. I don't care about the negatives. The shelby is gorgeous. The camaro not so much
Absolutely a great review in both cars the Mustang and the Corvette honest and clear.
Great driving. This is real driving. Love it awesome!
Swap a smaller pulley on the GT500 and you'll easily see 800hp
Yeah, because what that thing really needs is more power... it's borderline undriveable as it is!
Richard Harrold I'm sure this guy has a sub 300hp car so he has no frame of refrence for horsepower
He couldn't drift the ZL1 because he had the "nannies on"! The T/C button has to be held down for 7 seconds to deactivate it.
This was the beginning of a love story that led to Chris buying the best camaro ever made, the z28.
Love your take Chris. Non partial. All his driving gut.
I read over these comments and all the pissing and moaning and bad mouthing these two cars, I bet the majority of you guys could not afford either one of these cars.....What piece of crap are YOU driving??? The real way to vote on either car, is to vote with your check book, step up and buy one, then you can "vote" or offer an opinion, otherwise STFU...And go drive your "Ricer"......Either car is more than any of you could ever hope to own.....Both are good cars and offer performance and comfort....
You can't adjust the seat on a car in England? I own a Mustang and the seat position feels fine. So does the Camaro for that matter... You're in New York and couldn't go to Watkins Glen? The new Mustang will have an IRS. Drive it then and see what happens.
By new Mustang, You mean "The Ford Fusion GT 2015"? LOL I Love my 2013 GT with the Recaro seats. They move up and down, back and forward, etc. No clue why he was shoved under the wheel lol
Yes.. Recaro Allen. I dunno why I said Sparco LOL. Thx
I don't have any power seats tho.
watkins glen is at least a 6 hour drive from NYC. And it's nascar owned, which means it's owned by a bunch of tight ass's.
I got the 13 gt 500 black on twin black stripes with concave wheels , we love it .
Chris was at Monticello only two weeks before I was there back in 2012!!!
NYC is the worst city to drive in... Thats crazy to think its ok to do so.
Sao Paulo is MUCH worse, TRUST ME!
Fernando Eid Pires
buenos aires is way worse lol
I respect what GM is trying to do with the Camaro. Yes, I think they are ass-ugly, and you can't see out of them. They are pretty well-balanced, good performing, reliable cars. However, that's not why I buy a muscle/pony car. I buy it for character, and the Mustang has loads more of it. It looks better, goes better in a straight line, handles fairly well, and I can see out of it. If you're a drag racer, it's a well-known fact that every trim level Mustang is faster than the Camaro and Challenger competition at its price level this generation. The GT 5.0 is really the one to get, once you put proper tires on it and replace the crappy stock shift linkage with MGW. I wonder what Chris would think of the Boss 302.
Agreed
You are so damn right the Mustang is true muscle car of America
I couldn't agree more. Also, i saw the Ford Racing team put the 2015's (v6 turbo, 5.0, and GT) on the drag strip and the supercharged 2015 Mustang GT hit 10.9sec and they're factory stock, the only mod was Hoosier tires.
What is it with people and camaros these days? It's all about that SVT.
ZL1 is ugly.....dude.... -.-
God Chris- you are my favorite journalist on the internet. And seeing you on the streets of NYC, blabbing on, was so much fun for this native NYer. The editor got it wrong when you said sod off, as they must not know Britspeak, and they wrote "saw it off". That was kind of funny(but incorrect). So glad you do what you do. Big fan here. Thanks.
You can see the adrenaline in his eyes on the track
I would like to see ford bring back the Thunderbird and put it in it's rightful place....competing with the Corvette!! No it won't be easy but unless they plan on making another GT they'll be on the competitive world wide with mustang power in an over engineered 2 seat Thunderbird. Still can't wrap my head around why they haven't gone the way of the sword and decided to do battle with GM EVERYWHERE instead of limiting themselves on the world stage.
Ford has made a decision to build fewer different cars but ones that will sell well world wide. Not so many niche market vehicles. Just cars that will sell in volume. Following Toyotas lead here, fewer models but they all sell like crazy.
secretagentmanstumpy
The UK has wanted a mustang since it's inception. The sad part is they still won't get one. Ford will have to amend to accomodate these markets or lose out to inferioir products.
The new 2015 Mustang will be sold in England. Dunno if that includes the shelby or not.
secretagentmanstumpy
They say that now but I doubt it will. The UK have wanted a stag for a long time and the region isn't exactly mustang friendly. If you guys get one you won't be getting any v8's.
nezerac the UK is for sure getting the new RHD 2015 Mustang, not sure if the V8 is gonna be an option or not (I'm sure it will be though)
american cars in this price range all have one thing in common. decent engines with honda civic interior.
+Real nigga exactly the one thing I would allow to let go of, if there has to be any, that could either bring the price down or offer something better for the same price
+Real nigga not the 2015 mustangs. IDK about the camaros though. But the new mustang has such a nice interior.
Dear /drive,
I appreciate the fact that a foreign automobile media has finally given a proper review to American cars and didnt bash on American cars and the people of America. Cough cough (top gear).
Thank you!
Bloody brilliant video.
The mustang is a mans car and a race car a camaro is an everyday car
FORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mustang Summary (As a Mustang Owner Myself): Drag Strip, Sunday Cruising, Boulevard Cruising, Refined Classic Look, Refined Classic Power with the Classic Handling, Old School American Muscle, A Classic Revival of American Musclecarism (New Word).
03-04 Cobras were vastly underrated on HP. Late 03's were making those numbers to the wheels coming right off the lot. Secondly, Yes it is a V8 but it is a small 8. Only 281ci.
Camaro 4 Life!!!
the Mustang will take down any Camaro anyplace anytime I've ridden in a roush 2013 of stage 3 Ford Mustang or 530 horse to the wheel 2014 Shelby gt500 SVT the 615 to the the wheel and 715 coming out of t motor to bring any Camaro and they will beat you!!!
Jordan Robbins In what a straight line? lmfao I'd rather have an all around good car like the Camaro, any day. I wouldn't touch a Ford even if it had a Chevy engine in it.
Michael Ellis Can you two stop complaining about which brand you think is better? They're both great cars. The Shelby is fantastic at what it does: scaring the crap out of you. The ZL1 is great at being a track car. They're both really good looking too, even though I prefer the GT500. It's all about preference and you can't go wrong with either one of these cars. Plus the ZL1 has been dethroned: the Z/28 is much better at going around the track. And later this year Ford will have the upper hand when the GT350 and GT350R are released. The new Shelby is putting down around 550hp from a naturally aspirated, flat-plane crank engine. It's also been built for the track unlike the old GT500. So you can fully expect it to spank any Camaro on the track. And then, when the next Camaro comes out it might do the same thing to the Shelby. That's how it goes with American muscle cars, they one-up each other every time a new one comes out.
Michael Ellis Boy, do YOU suck ! My 3-car garage needs one hemi, one chevy maro, and a super snake,,,, one for every other day in the week,,,,lots of great/good engineers putting forth their best, and I love driving them all,, and if/when I think I can do better, I build a Factory Five roadster myself, and put in it what i want... then I need a 4-car garage, don't I ?
Ford will always excel over Chevy. No matter what it comes to.
Yeah those 92-02 stangs really beat the gm twins hey hahaha
AHhhhhh I live like a few blocks away from the where they had the cars in the intro, cant believe i missed it lol
I love them both. They both look badass. They both cool.
"Is it a pony or a snake? Typical ford failure!! Another ford mustake!! I love the 200mph speed test that was done in the desert. The vette ran lap after lap at 214mph, and the 'mustake' couldnt get over 185 because it overheated!!! Fords excuse was that conditions didnt favor the 'mustake' to get up to it's top speed, but it would've broke into pieces anyway!!!--Built mazda tough!!!"
Compare the Mustang to the Vett?, ah.....no The Vett is in a different class than the Mustang. Vett has no back seat, case closed
Jason Flitton
You sir have a bad case of 'ford denial'.www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/2009/10/infidel_2_cropped.jpg Here is the real fastest gasoline powered car on the planet. Yeah the ford 'badd gt' is in the top ten, number 6 or so, but hardly production (custom Built) still sucks ass, because even if you could afford it, you couldn't afford to drive it. That 'ford' website was cute though. As for mustake its a girls car, always was, always will be a 'MUSTAKE". Completely an accident.
the real gt was built in 1960, and was mostly custom, not ford. Keep trying though.....hahahahaha!!
RustyRedBallz agree with the Ford GT not being the fastest. The GT40 was "sponsored" by Ford for Ford racing, just over 100 were made, but YOU COULD order one from a dealership. Ford did this after a failed attempt to buy Ferrari. Like the GT40, you can not call the Ford GT a "production car" more than you could call a Bugatti a production car. A Vett is a production car
Jason Flitton
ford owes 5.9billion, $577million due by june 14,2022. Forbes.com, look it up. Good luck paying it back. You better go run and buy you a shit load of mustangs if you want ford to stay in buisness. o and gm had 56% of the entire GLOBAL market, ford is the top selling brand because you have to buy a new one every 3-5 years!!!! Good try, feel sorry for you man, condolences to you and fail."
RustyRedBallz They owe money because they didn't take an Obama hand out. How's it taste to be sucking on Obama's nut sack GM fan boy? My 2005 F250 has 225K on it and running great, no need to buy every 3-5 years. How's the Volt doing??? LOL
The Shelby is for real men not a camaro
This doesn't contribute to anything positive, Come back after puberty son, when you can make a real comment.
Camero who
Camero ran away for years with its tail between its legs
You also have to realize that the ZL1 as he stated is "de-tuned". So this car was probably around the 620-640 mark before the tune was messed with. I'd say it was tuned down in order to make it more tame on the track without needing to add even wider tires to make it hook on the track. I could be wrong but it makes sense.
this was a great comparison! really nailed the difference between the two cars.
Ford will always be the # 2 vehicle in the USA Period
I like this guy. He's a good car reviewer. Non biased
Both Badass machines.. it all comes down to personal preference on looks and interior. I would'nt mind owning both.
Finally! This is the first British man I've seen give credit where credit's due. He finally understands and appreciates that, yeah the interior quality of these cars may not be as good as the equivalent BMW, but you don't get the performance numbers of these cars in those BMWs. I also love him attacking all the journalist cliche's =)
Great video and review, Chris. Glad you got the charm of the low-cost, low-tech American muscle tradition. Would have liked to see some footage of the Cobra with the traction control off.
"Camawwwwro..." Had me rolling, but it's #chrisharris for f***k sakes...all is forgiven!
If you HONESTLY believe the brake fluid is the only thing done to optimize the Mustangs in those events......I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Ultimately this guys review is pretty spot on. A lesson before buying either car is in this review. Better know what you want, where you will use the car and just how good a driver you are first. The Camaro is the better car for all but the most skilled drivers and probably way easier to live with every day.
Yes. I don't know what the process is in the US but in the UK you have a "tax disc" displayed in the front windscreen which you renew every year after paying a fee which obviously varies depending on the car.
I'm not really a brand loyalist, so I'd be happy with either of those cars. I'm not a fan of yellow, but that Camaro looks damn good. I think I have a slight preference for the Camaro just for the aesthetic appeal and handling.
Chris Harris has to be the best host for a car show. So entertaining
Still in 2020 these cars aged well both performance wise and looks wise. Price wise they've held their value quite well in europe
I don't understand the seat too high thing. Do they not know how to adjust it. I have a 2011 5.0 and my seat goes very low but it doesn't have the recaro seats. I did sit in a 2013 gt500 a couple of weeks ago and it seemed ok to me when I lowered the seat all the way. I am only 5'6" though
fucking Chris does it again, one of my favorite reviewers of all time.
Just as I was expecting. Being a ford fan, I know the Camaro can handle better around corners, The suspension, and weight distribution though it is heavier, makes it better on a track. The shelby is the beast of the beasts...but being as light weight as it is, with irs tremendous power it suffers greatly for traction, from the launch and on corners. I would say its more of a steaight line car, I favor both cars in their own way so Im not picking either or. Just stating my thoughts(:
Though the ZL1's engine is 0.4L larger in displacement, the GT500 has a 0.4L larger supercharger, 3 more cams, twice the valves, 8 more lbs of boost, all for another 82 hp. Not to mention the added weight, larger dimensions, and higher center of gravity of a DOHC engine.
Thank you Chris I always wait for your views. For me I am a GM guy but I want a muscle car that can handle. And thus love the ZL1 even more I am a motorcycle racer so I like to go around corners and being stationed in Germany the Nurburgring is right down the road from me.
Hi Chris...Thanx, for the reply, and the helpful info !!! I didn't know, all cars, didn't have, the exact same H.P... Have a Great Autumn :):):)
Couple things, first off, how'd y'all like Sullivan County NY??
Second thing, they do have seat adjustments in the Ford...
Wonderful review from someone who can drive and is fair.
Wow huge props to Chris on this one. I don't think i've actually ever seen an unbiased review such as this one...americans always gloat over their cars and europeans and especially those from the UK have an irrational hate for them. THANKS FOR THE HONEST REVIEW I THOUGHT ID NEVER SEE ONE!!!
I'm sure its in the comments somewhere already, but damn... "Do i call it a Zee elle one, or a Zed elle one?" haha love it.
It's good to see these cars reviewed by a European rather than an American. It gives you a different perspective on things.
I love the red line 😄
Did I hear him correctly the ZL1 was 2 sec faster?!! Impressive for being down so much hp and heavier. I am a Chevy guy but kudos to that Stang it does look and sound Damn nice.
Chris, I hope you also drive the Mustang Boss 302 and compare it to the Camaro SS 1LE. Those are both considered more balanced performance cars. Unfortunately, I'm almost 2 years too late.
People argue about which one is better as if they made and designed these cars!!! I love both but I just so happen to have a Camaro SS and I love it...but there are days I see a 2015 mustang gt and wish I had that...one day I'll have both in my garage!!!! One track one drag bam
Mikal Wright You are speaking the truth, I have a 5.0 but was really close to getting an SS, If i had the money I would have gotten a 1LE, that thing is a monster on the track. Both are awesome cars!
Ignition, Head2Head, Motor Trend.... This I dont know what it is? Both awesome cars!
So Chris, which is better, the Z28 or the ZL1?
The ladies really love walking the grounds enjoying the beautiful scenes all around. The College World Series is a blast. Lee Simmons conservation park is one of the few places in the world you can take a guided tour and potentially see grey wolves hunting bison. Concerts, operas, musicals, plays are going on all year round. The Mormon trail is also pretty interesting. I guess it's a matter of opinion. I'd rather see a wolf than ride a roller coaster. Besides, we have those too.