Animation Analysis: "Fate/Grand Order - Memorial Movie 2023"
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I want to try to answer some of the questions asked in the video and explain some key concepts in as simple terms as possible so that even non-fgo fans can understand.
17:50 It's mercury! That character's the first emperor of China in a version of history where he successfully attained immortality. (FGO has several arcs exploring alternate timelines) and has the power to freely control mercury. The reason they went so crazy on the fluid effects is most likely to sell the POLISH of a metal surface with the fluidity of a liquid.
19:55 That's (genderbent) King Arthur, reflecting on the events of her kingship leading up to the Battle of Camlann that ended with the collapse of near everything she held dear. You're absolutely right in your inference of her reflections on her life and decisions. In the original Fate/Stay Night series, she is presented as initially being wrecked with guilt and regret as she died watching everything she built crumble around her. Her original arc was about her coming to terms with her history and being content with how things turned out.(Massively simplified)
FGO offers a slightly different stance. *FGO argues that while humanity can oftentimes be terrible and cruel, it is still worth saving and trying your best to do good in this world is inherently valuable in itself.* It validates her motivations, acknowledges the tragedies, and then offers her a second chance to serve and save humanity.
This is why 20:59 is so important. It shows a genuine acknowledgement of humanity's cycle of trife, misfortune and war, and understands that the cycle continues to turn till this day.
This leads us to 21:46 where the "second chance" manifests in her being summoned into the present day to join FGO's quest to save humanity, and it's really beautifully depicted not as the destruction of mankind's enemies but instead places its focus on the PEOPLE that are being saved, showing cultures and time periods from all over the world(and I suspect even theoretical future cultures, which fgo has explored in past events) And in being offered a chance to once again defend humanity, she herself is saved too as she gets to protect the humanity that she continues to treasure dearly despite all of the tragedies she has experienced.
3:52 is there to show that this motivation ISN'T unique to King Arthur. Nearly all of the characters summoned in the game chose to let themselves be summoned, because they share the common wish of defending humanity despite their lives being filled with tragedy. They share a hope in the future of humanity despite not being blind to the rampant cruelty of our reality. I think it's a wonderfully optimistic yet not naive message for this silly mobile gacha game from 2015 to carry.
“We Heroic Spirits are merely shadows of times long past, people like you who live in this time are treasures to us, everything we fought for was for the sake of the future.” -Karna, Fate Grand/Order
25:52 Yes please! If that's such a stream I WILL be there even though your streams usually start at 2am or so.
11:36 Me! It's me! And like thousands upon thousands of other whales. Our collective spending on last year's summer banner alone probably bought all the man hours required and then some to produce this video. I like to think all my spending has contributed to funding a single frame of this video ayyyy lmao
such a great indepth look. Never knew why our Moth emperor was designed like that and now I do :)
This was made to celebrate FGO's 8th anniversary, and considering how much money they make, no surprise they gave it their best
A lot of FGO fans were probably disappointed by the anniversary servant (playable character) gacha pick up, but to me, this memorial movie is a clear sign that the Type-Moon company, FGO studio at Lasengle and Aniplex are fully intent on continuing this wonderful series as long as possible. To me, that's enough because I basically grown so much while playing this game for the past 8 years. Playing this game made me excited and lively every four season, every holidays, every anniversaries and new year's eve and day. So I truly recommened new players into this expansive world that is Fate/Grand Order.
You mean most NA FGO players were disappointed by Tonelico. JP was happy by her release y'all just didn't expect her thus -> disappointed.
@@FoulestNight I play JP and I personally wished it was Ultimate Olga. But then again 8 years is a little too early.
I also play with the jp ver but I’m not really disappointed and I kinda enjoy it because I’m not really expecting too much. But it is understandable because many people really hype Olga too much that’s why a lot of people are really disappointed.
But I kinda agree, if they implement Olga then they are probably planning ending the game soon. Though I’m starting to save for Olga because I don’t have sq after the summer event.
Oh you're saving for Olga? Me too! Or maybe all of us are!@@ghio43
@@ghio43 it will end after the 10th anniversary hopefully.
Its no small project its a big project actually.. since this video is supposed to be for anniversary for the game. They got Hiromatsu Shuu and Cloverwork to work on this project.
I meant small in length but i didn't specify and regretted my phrasing later hoping nobody would notice 🥲 it's definitely a huge budget project. The sheer amount of detail alone shows that much
@@CatharsisYT ouh no its okay. Sorry about that.
@@kurasakikenji lol no need to be sorry, I'm just ironically bad at words despite what i do 😂
@@CatharsisYT nah its fine i understand. May u have a great day.
20:44 Nope, it's not Excalibur, probably just a regular sword (although there is one theory that this is Galahad's sword)
You're telling me that they had THE opportunity to use THE MOST POPULAR SWORD IN HISTORY and they chose MID!?
@@CatharsisYT The most popular sword in history already belongs to blonde girl in blue armor and you can actually see full Excalibur at 3:33 and, MOREOVER, you made a common mistake, you see, The sword from the stone is actually Caliburn, while Excalibur is the sword given by Lady of the Lake
@@Habenyan42069also based on the age and deterioration of the surroundings this is after artoria’s passing and by this point Excalibur has long since returned to The Lady of the Lake where artoria found Excalibur.
@@lunerblade13yeah, I agree, I just think that this is just a sword from one of many fallen soldiers
@@CatharsisYT I think the idea was to show the suffering of ordinary people throughout history, so after the series of scenes showing the aftermath of the death of the heroes, this scene shows the aftermath of the death of a nameless soldier in some unknown battlefield
fate/grand order is like my baby, seeing i've spent five years playing it on the north american side of things; so it made me happy to know that you got to this.
humanity, that's what this game shows us. both the good and the bad. we're set in the time where our future is threatened, that the world will not live past a specific year unless we go back and fix mistakes made by our enemy. and to do that, we gain the aid of hundreds of heroes, anti-heroes, hell even some terrible people from history -- people who have given their lives, their stories, in order to set a bright future for those in the present.
this mv is like a love letter to every single character we're able to summon, and raise, and pour incredibly amounts of love into. and i utterly adore it for that fact.
I highly recommend you watch Fate/, yes I am biased it is one of my favorite franchises... even if you don't understand a single thing because the timeline of the entire universe is so complicated, the animation, music and overall vibe is here and it's here to piledrive you into a table. As an animator you'll probably enjoy it a lot. Zero, Unlimited Blade Works, the Heaven's Feel movies, Babylonia, the second Camelot and the Solomon movie and lately the Strange Fake OVA all have some of the craziest/coolest animation, sound design and music. The vibe is immaculate. Fate/ is such a colossal franchise it's bound to have insane production quality.
Ever since I saw the community post 2 days ago that this breakdown was coming out soon, ive been IMPATIENTLY waiting for it.
As a longtime fate fan I naturally love this memorial movie. But even beyond that, just visually its just so stunning! Like its literally a contender for the most beautiful piece of media ive seen EVER. Ive watched it numerous times and theres always something more to discover.
Anyways hype comment over im off to get a cup of coffee so i can really sit down and pay attention to the breakdown of this beautiful MV
If you want more context in this video, you can watch Tsiah IV video analysis for this video. If you do not want to make a video of you watching the video analysis, that's fine as long as you understand some of the context for this music video and and part of the reason why we all love Fate Grand Order stories.
Also the one that animated this was also the one that animated the fifth ending for the Chainsaw man anime, if you're also interested in that.
a lot of reference in this video has real historical reference rather than just fate franchise reference
1:19 its about iskandar's death, a long and painful death due to illness (hence the people visiting his bed looked distressed) and also a reference to a painting of the imagined visual of the army bringing his corpse in that massive house-like carriage (he died in a different country than the one he wished be buried on)
1:22 its frankenstein monster (in fate franchise there is only the female one) and this is a reference to the climax of its story where dr victor frankenstein died in the arctic after being chased by the monster
1:52 its about how the hassansins cult met their end at a war against mongolian, in which case 2:10 could be the stairs of masyaf castle
2:08 im not sure but i think its about shi huang ti's grave that has thousands of soldier statues (and some rumors that the grave has some mechanism that utilize mercury to make stuff moves or something)
2:20 jeanne d arc's public execution by burning, i wonder if they really let her carry that small cross as she is being burned (they probably didn't due to her execution is based in the accusation that she is a witch... maybe it is symbolism of her faith never waver until her end)
3:33 a bunch of soldiers offering excalibur to arthur... but i think these soldier's armor are that of anglo saxons? which makes it weird because the saxons were supposed to be arthur's enemy in his story... so im not sure what is happening as well
extra:
11:55 jeanne is short, she doesn't even get to the shoulders of the other soldiers, perhaps it is about the part where she was a 16 year old girl from peasant family when she joined the war... or maybe they just like their animated girls short
3:59 ancient soldiers killing each other (but in reverse) and the next frame world war soldier trying to protect a child (but in forward) and then world war weapons explodes (but in reverse)... don't know if it means anything, but looks great
If the anglo saxons were offering the blade to Arthur wouldn't they give it to her hilt first and not blade? I'm thinking it's maybe symbolism of how her kingdom collapsed and the anglo saxons took her treasures.
@@killervonkase i dont see how that fits the hopeful portion of the song, but it does make sense since in the next scene she is not using exalibur at all... and, this might be a stretch, but it fits the part where the saxons ends up with peaceful resolution where they were allowed to become farmers in britain (this happened in actual history, in arthurian legend they were just enemies)... so it could be saying that arthur and britain's legacy is not just that of sword and blood
they are the anglo saxons i think it shows that after her death they got inspired by her ideals and follow those say ideals and knowledge her legends as once and future king of Britain
I thought the six offering the sword could be a reference to the 6 fairies responsible for forging it, which could be a tie in to the Lostbelt 6 lore, but I'm not quite sure.
Jeanne D'Arc *was* actually allowed to carry a cross at her execution! There are dozens of documents and eyewitness reports that you can read online about her trial that paint of vivid and accurate depiction of that whole ordeal.
Side note: She was tried, sentenced, and executed by an ecclesiastic (church) court for public heresy (wearing men's clothes for protection and saying she heard the voices of Saints), not for being a witch. It was a kangaroo court however and the lead inquisitor was grasping for any straw to convict her and not turn her over to a secular court (as a prisoner of war and a hostage, that's where she *should've* been tried, and they likely would've been much more lenient).
There were tons of people, both French and English, that were outraged and supported Jeanne's innocence. It was enough for the secular and ecclesiastic English courts to reopen the trial some 20 years after her execution to deem her original trial a shameful disgrace.
Its a love letter for US, the player, and the fans. I cried when the first time I see it, and still sometimes do when watched it again
20:59 in this particular case they are using the previous explosión that refers to Nobel's invention of dynamite (just history, it hasn't been talked about in the franchise yet) to symbolize that progress changing wars and in contrasts killing warriors.
20:50 if anything that’s not exactly it but caliburn the first sword Arthur recieved to symbolize his kingship.
Do you really think that's Caliburn? Because if so, I don't see the reason why they made it look so different compared to the one we saw in FSN and other works
@@Habenyan42069 I don’t, like I said in a comment of yours this is after artoria’s age. You have the right idea that this is someone else’s sword or a sword displayed as tribute to caliburn.
That't calibur or Excalibur
May fate and the nasuverse permeate everyone for decades.
Fgo spent our anniversary reward into this good shit
I believe the one at 24:00 is actually 2d based on the booru. The only cgi there are the stairs. Maybe they used some rotoscoping but idk.
as i expected, the music is copyrighted (it's FGO, very big IP in Japan).
as someone who only know this series from nsfw doujins (hehe boi), this short animation is amazing. i like both JP and EN ver of the music actually works. idk anything about lore except being absolutely complicated that makes me off too.
the story itself is super easy to get into as it just one main series and a bunch of spin off
the lore is great and complicated but you do not really need to get into it
fate is one of the biggest universe in anime and makes profits in the billions
Warning: As an "anime-only" you'd be missing out big time.
Type-Moon is a light novel/visual novel/video game franchise first and foremost.
Not only fate but the nasuverse which has many same concepts together 😆.
I didn't follow community post so this is the most unexpected thing I've seen. Well done.
This is the Power of Waifus and Husbandos.
im late but great vid, thank you!
I was too busy bawling over the message of the video to appreciate the animation in the first few watches lol
But goddamn yeah I agree they seriously put an unbelievable amount of time into this animation, so many things to talk about and nerd out over
Hello greetings from Chile. I liked your video. But I had a question, what program do you use to be able to highlight and write about the video? I found it a very interesting application.
It's called EpicPen. It has a free version with limitations, but stuff like it fading away is a paid feature. Either way its been super helpful 🫡
Now you need to watch every Fate/GO TV CM.
18:33 whales fueling the budget of the Fate franchise
Actually, I would appreciate longer breakdowns!
Hiromatsu shuu amen 🙏
i always wandering how you can do frame per frame in yt ???
The keys when the video is paused 👍
thanks you make me know@@CatharsisYT