Khabib vs GSP? Ben Askren & John Danaher Discuss
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John danaher complimenting khabib’s triangle and then khabib hits a triangle. Danaher really has a attention to detail unlike most.
He is a genius
@@sarthakpathak5694 No he's not an actual genius. There is no evidence for that. Being great at jiujitsu doesn't imply genius level intelligence.
@@EpsteinsRope Yeah.. Except he is a genius.
@@EpsteinsRope genius just doesn't mean math and science, it applies to the field the individual is in
@@EpsteinsRope He is nothing short of a genius when it comes to MMA. Find me a greater mind. I'll give you a year.
"He's got a nice triangle from his back...." You don't say!
You know this was recorded before the fight, right? Or are you just pointing out how on the money Danaher was?
@high horse I've come to admire Khabib for that. His ground & pound is scary but reviewing his fights, he doesn't hurt people as much as he could. He could literally leave a trail of broken bones bit he doesn't. He just secures the win
@@kierenkd he enjoys winning but not enjoy hurting opponents
@Balr Conor deserved more
Stop looking at is triangle behind his back
2:33 "He's got a nice triangle from his back." Danaher was right on the money.
Its the first thing you see on youtube when you look up khabib jiu jitsu matches. Danaher probably seen the same vid
Didn't he get the triangle from mount though?
@@letmegetuhhh3959 i think what john is saying is that at first khabbib got the takedown, which led khabib threatening/getting justins back. from there justin had to give up mount, in order to not get his back taken. that is the only explanation i can think of.
Well not quite. Its not like he locked it in off his back.
@@letmegetuhhh3959 mount setup, back finish
Danaher always rocking the rash guard legend has it he wore a rash gaurd to his daughter's wedding
Lol he doesn't have a daughter
Don’t forget the fanny pack! The cherry on top of the sundae!
Matt serra's wedding
Hahahaha
Kids = time away from the mats
Flo, why would you ignore 50% of the rest of this video?
I met Gsp at an airport and asked him if he was really done he said only for khabib, I think that fight will happen as long as Khabib still has the belt
Looks like Askren having a Saturday afternoon talk with his Uncle lol
Nothing i would want to see more than GSP and Khabib wrestle in a fight. In my opinion the 2 best "MMA wrestlers", each with his own style
"He is pretty good off his back. Got a nice triangle off his back." says John Danaher before the Khabib/Gaethje fight. I've never heard this guy talk nonsense.
@ainz ooal gown Thanks. I have.
Where’s the rest of this? Very interesting
Someone did try to take Khabib down - RDA. A man with one of the best takedowns at 155. He got judo flipped into his back as a result.
able Trujillo tried and then pays more than that😆😆
Khabib to RDA: "Oh you're a wrestler now?"
The close-up of Askren's face when Danaher talks about challenging specialists at what they always do is hilarious!!
Whenever I see Askrin, his ghost of Mojahed videos comes to my mind
And The Sound He Makes When He Disappears 😊😂😊
Boom rostered
2:35 Low and behold khabib gets the triangle choke in round 2
Daaang. Danaher with some prophetic words when talking about Khabib's grappling. haha
Need a GSP vs Khabib pure grappling match! FloGrappling, make it happen!
I like it that Justin was training wrestling with usman in preperation for this fight
Yeah and with only 2 seconds of footage you can see them end their workout, Justin is on the ground completely exhausted while Usman walks away not phased one bit.
dagestani wrestling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>american wrestling
Exceptional insight in retrospect.
the 2 best dressed guys in the game
I like how this discussion is going on like they are about to send a ship to the moon...
Ben & John should do this more, very interesting
Flo just levelled up!!
Legend has it that John Danaher was born already wearing a compression thermal.
Trujillo took him down. But then almost got submitted in a matter of seconds
then got slammed 21 times
@@Tres-K-47 28*
@@dg1431 it was 21 successful takedown rest were unsuccessful attempts.
@@muhammadhabib63 bro 28 were official successful takedowns that counts.......indont know who many he throws in that fight...may b 35 or 40....but 28 were official highest secured takedowns in UFC in one fight.
The manny pack. Proudly endorsed by John Danaher and The Rock
Nice triangle from his back , well that was very prophetic
Ben Askren is STILL one of my favorite fighters.....I wanted to see Ben Askren vs Khabib.
I think Khabib would keep the fight standing and then beat him up on the fight
@@Literallyme1234 yeah that’s actually a very good point, kind of like Usman vs Colby right?
Askren went against Aleksakin who was juiced up and a Sambo guy, and has gone against other Sambo guys and won with his awesome smothering wrestling and scrambles. And against Sapo he was relentless with his TD attempts and survived Sapo’s power (though OFC the fight unfortunately ended early). IDT Khabib could hold down Askren, and Askren would be just throwing TDs all night, so it could be a very even match.
where is full episode?
Listen to GSPs interview about Khabib retiring. Two incredible fighters with so much class.
It's so weird seeing two of my favorite people at the same place!
These two dudes are...dudes
More Danaher content pls
Respect and congrats to the best LW ever.
Do Tony Conor for the vacant belt. Tony deserves it.
Tony vs winner of Conor Dustin
@@Coolproducts44 Why are people still talking about the Irish drunkard?
Man John Danaher just dumped a bucket of cold water over a hot mma matchup real quick. He’s not pulling any punches with his assessment of GSP physical state is he?
gsp would crush khabib. size matters
@@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 well its hard to go any nearer at the edge of weightcutting than khabib so there wont ever be someone with a real physical advantage with him in the cage
Danaher’s honesty hurt my feelings. :|
It’s not gonna happen anyway boss
@@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 They are roughly the same size, its just khabib does ridiculous weight cuts.
More of these
In order for Khabib to prove something really big, he needs to go up a weight class. He needs to fight GSP at 170.
But then there’s no belt on the line
But I agree it could also help balance out GSP’s age disadvantage
@@omranhashim1028 Both of them have trouble making 155. So it will be good for both. And GSP fought his last fight one class above his usual. Khabib should do the same.
@@omranhashim1028 It's not for a stupid belt. It's for legacy. Both of these guys walk around at 190+ off season. Their natural weight is not so different. Some of us want to see how well they do when they are not super under the pressure of meeting weight requirements.
Rashguard: Check!
Fanny pack: Check!
90s style adidas pants: check
"Even Conor ..." hehe loved that one.
I would love to see Khabib in submission matches now that he is retired from MMA. He would probably love it, and it wouldnt be like he HAD to win every time.
For khabib its either smesh or smesh. U know dis.
any top submission grappler would have their way with Khabib
@@Sean-uu9rg bullshit, nicky rod is an example of a wrestler turned submission grappler
@@Sean-uu9rg never heard more bullshit in my Life
I knew nothing about this guy heard him talk for less then a min on another vid. N knew instantly this a very smart dude.
It would be the lightweight Goat Vs The MMA GOAT. Khabib Vs Gsp at 165.
Khabib is #2 MMA GOAT... So it'll be #1 MMA GOAT vs #2 MMA GOAT
My man danaher is always ready for rolling sesh with the rash guard
well thats of the table
I hope one day they can both train and spar together
I love khabib at what he’s doing at 155 pounds, but need to move to 170 to prove more! 155 is not enough for his skill sets, need some bravery, and this without disrespect to his abilities! Just wish him to try to be a champ/champ, not only 1 weight division, especially we saw his struggling making weight, as he’s a big guy! I understand that gave him an edge and advantage, but if you wanna be a GOAT of MMA, you need to exit your comfort zone! Vs Justin? May the best man win! Good luck for both of them! Peace
1:32 That is the key.
keep in mind too, GSP was fighting pre-usada and not doing any PEDs himself. Hendricks lumped him up good and made him retire, and as soon as USADA came around hendricks was like a shrivled up husk of his former self.
It's a bold assumption to say GSP wasn't on something, he had one of the best physiques, best cardio and left when USADA became a thing.
Ben: what do you tell George to do
John: that’s... that’s a great question
One I’m not going to tell you the answer to 😈
I hope he’ll give us the answer now that khabib is retired
They may actually fight so I am not giving away anything! This fight could happen because of Khabib retiring. It gives them both leverage.
"He has a nice triangle from his back." Lol. But also, RIP debate.
McGregor has his suits, Danaher has rashguards ^^
Reminds me of A prime Dominic Cruz vs An upcoming Mighty Mouse.
I don’t get the gsp khabib thing for the exact reasons John lists I think khabib more legacy cementing move is to fight chandler at 155 or move up to welterweight
Guess we're never seeing this fight...
Except in our dreams.
I want to hear Danaher discuss what just happened.
I thought fedor was interviewing Askren
Jiu Jitsu Fedor
Ben Askren vs Michael Chandler please both are worthy to each other based on their level.
@2:35 They call him Mystic Mac coz he predicts these tings!!!!
GSP can beat Khabib today
If you look at a pic of Danaher when he still had hair the outfit makes so much more sense.
now we know
2:22 "Even though Khabib is primarily known for his wrestling, he is also accomplished Sambo competitor. Big part of Sambo is bottom guard position."
This is so true. Western audience often disregard Khabib's bottom escapes and transitions, coz they have no idea what Sambo wrestling entails.
Danaher is an absolute genius
Always wearing his gear just incase some one wants a quick roll around
Nice triangle from his back? 👀
And that's how he ended justin
I think Gaethje V Khabib finally answered the question about whether Gaethje has MMA wrestling in his back pocket.
3:40 Askren: "I find it really interesting that wrestlers dominate UFC upper weight-classes, but we haven't seen that in lighter divisions."
Demetrious, Cejudo, Volkanovsky: "Are we a joke to you?"
Danaher almost nailed it. Got it half right. Triangle, but not off the back.
Apparently they are both still in the USADA pool. Interesting.
I'd take it, even in a no striking match
Askren vs Khabib wrestling match would be fun
Danaher has to be the twin of Lord varyes from game of thrones
I respect Danaher and GSPs trainer in Montreal.but it’s more complicated than that. If it’s a will of marathon Folkstyle wrestling Not classical freestyle wrestling w long bouts of body locks and dragging down your opponents and getting back up ; over and over again. Without a doubt, Khabib will embrace that and GSP who is more a traditional TD freestyle wrestler will Lose that marathon chain style , Folkstyle drag them down and get back up war.
If you even want to play what if. Do you really think off GSP's layoff his 1st fight would be Khabib (arguably p4p the best) it would have to be a HUGE life changing payday from uncle Dana is all im saying...
Askren just needs to put on the M In B suit and he can be the Lex Fridman of mma.
Ankles , acls , knee caps have all left the building.
Thumbs up if you thought at first that the bald guy was Fedor.
Thats the only way to beat khabib is to take him down or at least attempt takedowns. As the fighter fighting khabib. You have to focus on so much. Distance from the cage. Opportunities for striking while also being very aware of a takedown at any moment. Where as khabib its easier. Get into the perimeter of striking Distance circle off cut the cage forward pressure and just wait for a shot to shoot a takedown. And just bob in and out of your opponents striking range and try to get them off balance or on the end of a combination.
I swear to god I actually just listen to Danaher as ASMR at this point
This seems like it could be a summer bbq with two dads who are only friends because their wives are friends but secretly have loads in common
Haha
All I want is to see The CODE behind his head.
Flying knee should work on a take down
He wasn't wrong about khabib good of his back and a triangle.
Danaher is absolutely spot on as usual. Whoever beats Khabib will be the one who can fight fire with fire. He's never had to face that kind of challenge even once because everyone's so afraid of his wrestling ability.
Gaethje.
@@ettcnt3822 Nah, Gaethje is scared to wrestle him as well. Only wants to use it to stop takedowns. What Danaher is saying is that someone has to want to wrestle Khabib instead of wanting to keep the fight standing.
Take khabib down and you are done.
Danaher the man knows everything
Just a jokishly weird assumption for the sake of a rather pointless argument. If Gordon somehow shrunk to 155 after going into mma and somehow got to top position, I believe shrunk Gordon might be the only one who could keep khabib down cuz Gordon’s positional skill is miles ahead of everyone else’s. I don’t know how good GSP’s top game is compared to gordon’s.
I agree with you that he is miles ahead of everyone technically in grappling, let alone MMA. But he is also a very methodical grappler who takes his time and systematically breaks his opponents. The problem he would face is that in MMA, you get max 3 minutes on the ground before the round ends and you get stood up, losing all the positional progress you made. He would have to either speed up his game, which would weaken his methodical system, but would open more opportunities. Or he incorporates good ground and pound to win each round, but would forgo his intricate grips and smothering pressure (because he needs space and posture for decent G&P). Either way, high level grapplers tend to look worse in grappling when they move to MMA for these reasons (look at Jacaré and Garry Tonon). They are still very good, but not as good as in a straight grappling match. (:
@@matthewfon3649 Yeah garry’s more scrambling focused style is more suitable for mma due to ridiculously tight time frame . But I am just arguing that Gordon can keep the top position and therefore win the exchange at least within the round if he managed to get to top position through some magic.
@just juggy maybe but that’s beside my point
Danaher is so correct about actually going for a takedown against Khabib instead of fighting scared of his wresting. Bully the bully and see what happens because the other stuff ain't working.
One guy who did it and paid the price and at the end of the fight Khabib put out a new ufc record of most number of takedowns in a match - 21.
Gregor Gillespie?
I don't know if there's anyone alive with the grappling IQ of John, he's mesmerising to listen to. I've always trained in boxing and muay thai (more for hobby and keeping me sane than competitiveness) andd have only dabbled in BJJ. What I love about jitz is that you can go all out whilst taking almost no damage if done correctly and it's definitely something I'd like to really go at once social distancing laws here in The UK lessen.
Well, they all said Conor vs Mayweather will never happen, but it did.
LETS COVER SOMETHING THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, JUST TO STAY RELEVENT
Ben looks like a grown up Tommy Pickles
Only once he was on his back against trujilo
This guy should make ASMR videos
What does he mean by a good MMA wrestler ? Seems to me wrestling in MMA begins and ends with takedowns and takedown defence. Other than that there is no MMA wrestling. Its bjj on the ground.
Garry Tonon vs Khabib
Flip flops are to Askren as rashguard is to Danaher.
after performance against justin today i must say GSP is also no rival to khabib... he is simply too strong! the GOAT
every fighter GSP has ever faced was "way to strong" for him
@@craiggagnon8407 yes i hope the fight with khabib happens you have to think about the diference in age also
4:36 " Wrestling in MMA is different than wrestling in wrestling "
Whaat?😂😱
In wrestling you dont knee people in the face when they try a double on you :D its very different.
@O K Yo man, chill. this was supposed to be funny but obviously didn't work out well for me😂
I'm a huge Khabib fan, but their observations about Georges' purposeful strategy of attacking his opponents early using their strong suit (often wrestling bc of the laundry list of great wrestlers at 170) vs Khabib often fighting strikers who were, in my view (and Khabib's) tailor-made for him, points to the fact that GSP is the G.O.A.T.
age is not that big of issue in mma Yoel Romero at near 44 and went toe to toe with two champions Adesanya and whittaker twice
pshhh him and hendo are the only two that have done it in the whole sport safely. maybe even francis trinaldo so that only makes 3.