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  • In this video, multi-platinum songwriter Martin Sutton explains his simple secrets to writing a great chorus consistently.
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    Timeline of Video:
    What is a Chorus? 0:16
    How do we say what we want to say in the Chorus? 3:00
    Chorus tips 3:36
    Overview 6:39
    Music references:
    Elvis Presley - Jailhouse Rock: ‱ Elvis Presley - Jailho...
    Phyllis Nelson - Move Closer: ‱ Phyllis nelson-Move Cl...
    Ben E. King - Stand By Me: ‱ Ben E. King - Stand By...
    LeAnn Rimes & Brian McFadden - Everybody's Someone: ‱ LeAnn Rimes & Brian Mc...
    James Blunt - You're Beautiful: ‱ James Blunt - You're B...
    Whitney Houston - Where Do Broken Hearts Go: ‱ Whitney Houston - Wher...
    Jimmy Ruffin - What Becomes of the Brokenhearted: ‱ Jimmy Ruffin - What Be...
    THE SHIRELLES-WILL U STILL LOVE ME TOMORROW: ‱ THE SHIRELLES-WILL U S...
    The Human League - Don't You Want Me: ‱ The Human League - Don...
    Elton John - Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word: ‱ Elton John - Sorry See...
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Komentáƙe • 162

  • @jbela
    @jbela Pƙed 5 lety +146

    Thanks so much for this tip, I always get lost telling a story in the song then get stuck on not getting the chorus

    • @tomlitterick560
      @tomlitterick560 Pƙed 4 lety +15

      A chorus is just one tool that you can use in composing. Saying that a song NEEDS a chorus is just bad song writing. One of the most famous songs in the world Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen doesn’t have a chorus. Focus on what you’re trying to achieve first. If a chorus fits in that idea then great, they are easy to write and you get to repeat them. But if it doesn’t it honestly doesn’t matter and can even make your song seem less ‘poppy’ and more artistic.

    • @jbela
      @jbela Pƙed 4 lety +5

      @@tomlitterick560 Thanks so much, that makes sense! The body of work in a song is so much more than a chorus.

    • @theKirbyShow
      @theKirbyShow Pƙed 3 lety +4

      Bro fr I find it best to write my song and just pick a catchy part from it and just loop it to were it makes sence

  • @cesruhf2605
    @cesruhf2605 Pƙed 3 lety +178

    I make a chorus, but then the verse and pre-chorus is more catchier than the chorus

    • @yourfriendgen6713
      @yourfriendgen6713 Pƙed 3 lety +40

      I have the same problem. I can make really good verses and prechoruses but when it gets to the chorus I dont know what to do.

    • @markitux
      @markitux Pƙed 3 lety +11

      @@yourfriendgen6713 hahaha +1 here!
      maybe we can start a club... :(

    • @navancheerecords5424
      @navancheerecords5424 Pƙed 3 lety +14

      Can I join the club too?

    • @shucksful
      @shucksful Pƙed 3 lety +5

      @@navancheerecords5424 mee tooo? Lol. đŸ€©

    • @afiqdanial9090
      @afiqdanial9090 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      invite me tooo

  • @Mattskito529
    @Mattskito529 Pƙed 4 lety +79

    sounds so simple and obvious, but it's really where a lot of amateur songwriters (myself included) go wrong

  • @tw4592
    @tw4592 Pƙed 5 lety +47

    please dont stop making these videos. theyre so helpful

    • @martinsutton3410
      @martinsutton3410 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      thomas walls don’t worry, plenty more on the way!

  • @borbalaszeplabi694
    @borbalaszeplabi694 Pƙed 3 lety +44

    "do you think you might like to stand by me" had me snort into my coffee

  • @jimanderson5172
    @jimanderson5172 Pƙed rokem +4

    Everyone is different some people come up with great words someone people have a knack for song writing, it's what ever is in your mind at that moment, don't over think, be real with yourself it's your song and enjoy what you're doing. I enjoy writing songs it's very relaxing

    • @officialweet-bixfanaccount6020
      @officialweet-bixfanaccount6020 Pƙed rokem

      its very east to fall into that trap of trying to make something super complex when it doesn't need to be, which inevitably ends in disappointment. sometimes I need something to knock me out of that state of mind and remind me I'm doing this for fun so thank you for that.

  • @cathyhilton5298
    @cathyhilton5298 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    Chorus is the meat and heart of a song

  • @GaryMeadowsMusic
    @GaryMeadowsMusic Pƙed 3 lety +5

    Thanks, Started writing a song using your advice, still not completely happy with the chorus but so far it may end up one of my better ones.

  • @theresasinger9039
    @theresasinger9039 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thank you, Martin! I'm already missing you and the TSA team!

  • @clarkstokes7080
    @clarkstokes7080 Pƙed 2 lety

    Pure Gold Martin! Thank you very much
cheers!

  • @dbxniker7484
    @dbxniker7484 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    this man has probably helped so much artists

  • @echomusicswe
    @echomusicswe Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    Thx Martin, awesome tips!!! love it :)

  • @MustafaBaabad
    @MustafaBaabad Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Thank you very much. God Bless You! Cheers from Indonesia

  • @LennySugiono
    @LennySugiono Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Absolute fountain of knowledge

  • @machidotv
    @machidotv Pƙed rokem +1

    Thanks so much sir♄

  • @kebedeareri7642
    @kebedeareri7642 Pƙed rokem

    Great Presentation! Blessings!

  • @AquashiiMusic
    @AquashiiMusic Pƙed 5 lety +34

    Shall we rock for a little while...lol Love it!

  • @guymustsingpatreon
    @guymustsingpatreon Pƙed rokem

    Fabulous! Thank you for your genererosity Martin! Very kind! :-)

  • @RavenMadd9
    @RavenMadd9 Pƙed 3 lety

    thank you Martin

  • @elenawaltermusic
    @elenawaltermusic Pƙed 2 lety

    Hi Martin, I just discovered your Songwriting Academy web site and the Community where I see many likeminded people, I am happy to join! Thanks a lot!

  • @fillypetite6898
    @fillypetite6898 Pƙed 3 lety

    Love this company ❀

  • @vitaminfian
    @vitaminfian Pƙed rokem

    Thank you

  • @apokolypzejonez22
    @apokolypzejonez22 Pƙed 3 lety

    This was helpful đŸ‘đŸŸ

  • @suzanneroux
    @suzanneroux Pƙed 5 lety +2

    Thanks so much Martin, great input !

  • @Robert_11911
    @Robert_11911 Pƙed 5 lety +3

    Thanks Martin, I appreciate your informative videos on song writing. ;) I'm learning a lot, thank you. Have a super day!

  • @ChernobogStudio
    @ChernobogStudio Pƙed 5 lety +2

    Wonderful video as usual, Martin. Thank you!

  • @Marcnshae2011
    @Marcnshae2011 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thank you!

  • @muherezahillary8521
    @muherezahillary8521 Pƙed 2 lety

    I can make a chorus now, Thank you

  • @devonplaza4202
    @devonplaza4202 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    thank you

  • @steveg3314
    @steveg3314 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    You‘re amazing, Martin! Please never stop doing these videos!

  • @duniaquirante5083
    @duniaquirante5083 Pƙed 3 lety +9

    Wow I'm a directioner and honestly I didn't see the Where Do Broken Hearts Go part coming haha, this video is so helpful thanks

    • @FindMeInsanity
      @FindMeInsanity Pƙed 3 lety

      Are they still a thing? Zayn's the only one that still makes unique stuff and goes awf with his vocals and shows versality across all genres. Harry Styles has more commercial success but its mostly because of payola

  • @littizja
    @littizja Pƙed 2 lety

    I truly love your necklace
 mind sharing where’d you get it?

  • @JackTheRabbitMusic
    @JackTheRabbitMusic Pƙed 3 lety +5

    "Sorry seems to be the hardest word" is one of my most favorite Elton John songs! When Covid ends, and I go visit my friends in the UK, I am going to give you a hug, sir! đŸ°â€ïžđŸŽžđŸŽ¶đŸ€âœŒïž

  • @stylesdangerfield
    @stylesdangerfield Pƙed 4 lety +15

    I think that for the most part you should write exactly how you feel in a song. If you're not sure that you are in love with her who loves somebody else who is interested in someone else and in fact the whole thing might not work out, then someone else probably feels something similar. And those are the people that you are going to relate to. It sort of depends how poppy you are trying to get with the song. But I do think what he is saying is a good point, but keep in mind "Tools not Rules" there is nothing that you can't doing or at least try.

    • @twopianomanGAB_D
      @twopianomanGAB_D Pƙed 4 lety +2

      I like the people who take the time to say what's on their minds.

    • @TrueGritProductions
      @TrueGritProductions Pƙed 4 lety +1

      I like songs that sound like they were written by Michael Bay and Jerry Bruckheimer. "I'm a badass. I'm taking you home tonight. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it right."

    • @tuftyindigo
      @tuftyindigo Pƙed 4 lety +1

      That's fine as long as you're definite about it. Even if the core idea of the song is that you're not sure about something, the chorus can still say, "Can we make it?" or "Tell me what to do". You can be short and punchy and still be honest about your uncertainty or inner turmoil.

  • @Lifestylentertainmentv
    @Lifestylentertainmentv Pƙed rokem

    This is so useful i always battle with chorus makes me lose interest whenever I get inspiration to write a song I get lost trying to balance the chorus

  • @Shiyounin
    @Shiyounin Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Liked, subscribed, notification bell rung, and commented. I was going to add a chorus too, but I'll refrain.

  • @sujayanarula3913
    @sujayanarula3913 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thank you Mr Sutton, I have written some songs if you want to evaluate it, plz let me know if I can share it with you. Appreciate your tips to write better.😊

  • @crazygoodmotherhood5260
    @crazygoodmotherhood5260 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Thank you! This was very helpful!

  • @BillyReedMusic
    @BillyReedMusic Pƙed 5 lety +2

    Great advice. Thanks! I just subscribed!

  • @RickyTehra
    @RickyTehra Pƙed 5 lety

    Awesome as always 💐

  • @tomsalutan7217
    @tomsalutan7217 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    thank you very for the tips . GOD BLESS !

  • @djfroggy1566
    @djfroggy1566 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Point 3 Of Using A Question, Reminds Me Of A Song Titled: " Do You Remember?" By Phill Collins 👏

  • @christinauhrbak
    @christinauhrbak Pƙed 3 lety

    Thank you for actually being concrete and knowing what you talk about - I signed up on your website

  • @b4rtir4
    @b4rtir4 Pƙed 3 lety

    Just discovered your channel. Thank you much for these videos, they're really helpful! I can't download the pdf, it sends me to a generic free domains page thingy.

  • @stephaniemaxine676
    @stephaniemaxine676 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    this was extremely helpful

  •  Pƙed 5 lety +2

    Great! Thanks.

  • @jammybilly
    @jammybilly Pƙed 5 lety +2

    Thanks Martin. Nice summary of some of the info from the other videos.

  • @JunyL
    @JunyL Pƙed 3 lety

    gracias just what i was missing everythng makes so much sense

  • @StevenDiLeo
    @StevenDiLeo Pƙed 3 lety

    Thank you for these ideas! :)

  • @sidrasiddiqui2625
    @sidrasiddiqui2625 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    Where do broken hearts go ~one Direction

  • @yours_truly_
    @yours_truly_ Pƙed 2 lety

    funny that one of my favorite chorus is "well i guess that i just don't know, well i guess that i just don't know" from Heroin.

  • @mauriciomanino
    @mauriciomanino Pƙed 4 lety

    Woah! Very great tools! Thanks!!!!

  • @johnpucilla7157
    @johnpucilla7157 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Excellent and simplified.
    Regards,
    Songwriter
    John Pucilla

  • @johnduggan7896
    @johnduggan7896 Pƙed 4 lety +36

    I assume others here are songwriters. Where do you put your music? I'd love to hear what others are writing.

    • @mineralt
      @mineralt Pƙed 3 lety +3

      John Duggan thanks for asking; music.apple.com/us/album/circus/1488263764?i=1488263947

    • @JackTheRabbitMusic
      @JackTheRabbitMusic Pƙed 3 lety

      I just started sharing my songs in Dec 2019. I have a CZcams channel. I am not sure what the next step is. Cool that you asked this! đŸ°â€ïžđŸŽžđŸŽ¶đŸ€âœŒïž

    • @mineralt
      @mineralt Pƙed 3 lety +1

      What have you got to share John?

    • @JackTheRabbitMusic
      @JackTheRabbitMusic Pƙed 3 lety +2

      @@mineralt I checked your site out...really nice man!! đŸ°â€ïžđŸŽžđŸŽ¶đŸ€âœŒïž

    • @johnduggan7896
      @johnduggan7896 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      @@mineralt I just upload on my YT channel

  • @mariettekoolhoven5578
    @mariettekoolhoven5578 Pƙed 2 lety

    Very usefill tips. And you seem so charming and sweet! Really like a very kind and warm soul. Very nice to listen to

  • @jevaunnybarton2986
    @jevaunnybarton2986 Pƙed 3 lety

    What is really the structure in writing a chorus using first ,second and third person? When do u use them?

  • @MontegoBayApartment
    @MontegoBayApartment Pƙed 4 lety

    so helpful...give tanx

  • @LeahLlewellyn
    @LeahLlewellyn Pƙed 4 lety

    thanks so much.

  • @rockmackenzie995
    @rockmackenzie995 Pƙed 2 lety

    I love to see your cross..

  • @Plafintarr
    @Plafintarr Pƙed 4 lety

    Strong, bold statements are what make Noah Gundersen such a compelling songwriter to me. He means everything he writes 110%. Thanks for pointing this out! I'm gonna try to really state something in my next song!

  • @myversionofstuff
    @myversionofstuff Pƙed 4 lety

    Nice, thanks

  • @Sean-cr7xk
    @Sean-cr7xk Pƙed 2 lety

    5:06 James Blunt once said the song is about a stalker so...yeah😅
    Great video though, very helpfull

  • @gasparucciox9706
    @gasparucciox9706 Pƙed 3 lety

    i liked this tutorial a lot

  • @KaitavSapreMusic
    @KaitavSapreMusic Pƙed 5 lety +1

    Great tips, thank you so much!

  • @TrueGritProductions
    @TrueGritProductions Pƙed 4 lety

    Great video

  • @BetaDaysStudios
    @BetaDaysStudios Pƙed 4 lety +3

    It's useful to me Sir,I wish I could get in touch with you

  • @darrenross9168
    @darrenross9168 Pƙed 5 lety

    excellent tips, thank you Martin, all the best, Darren Ross.

  • @Table-Top
    @Table-Top Pƙed 5 lety

    Thanks Martin .
    Can you do ELO Twilight? Thats genius songwriting imho.

  • @PurpleHazeNation
    @PurpleHazeNation Pƙed 4 lety +3

    đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ‘‘

  • @ivorycybernetics
    @ivorycybernetics Pƙed 2 lety

    hi! the url in the in link seems to be broken..?

    • @songwritingacademy
      @songwritingacademy  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Hi the link has now been updated, please go to thesongwritingacademy.co.uk/planner to download it!

  • @jeffj6997
    @jeffj6997 Pƙed 4 lety

    HI There, Love your videos!... The link to your 7 step song planner does not seem to be working.. Can you help? Thanks!

  • @hectorvelazcoh
    @hectorvelazcoh Pƙed 3 lety

    Hello. The link is not working

  • @Mannyindahouse
    @Mannyindahouse Pƙed 3 lety +2

    It’s hard to start writing the chorus when you’ve put the title in the prechorus. I want to avoid repeating lines in other sections.

  • @oldunclemick
    @oldunclemick Pƙed 3 lety

    Choruses are it for me. Most verses are blah-di-blah (I apologize to those who pour their souls into their verses). Songs with verses that catch my attention often have an arrangement/performance that makes it impossible ignore them. Examples are: Bad Guy, Bohemian Rhapsody (there is no chorus!). Stand and deliver. Life's been good. Tainted love (Soft Cell version). Money (Pink Floyd). Money (the other one and the Flying Lizards version because it's the _only_ one where the singer's attitude is consonant with the lyrics).

  • @ethangray7392
    @ethangray7392 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I been writing poetry for awhile now and I'm trying to get to lyrical writing yet I can't write a song to save my life.

  • @artistsingerwriterproducer8288

    Invest etc please

  • @TheDrfrankenstien
    @TheDrfrankenstien Pƙed 3 lety

    @thesongwritingacademy is this website no longer active? It directs me to buying a domain name.

    • @songwritingacademy
      @songwritingacademy  Pƙed 2 lety

      Our website has now been updated! Please go to thesongwritingacademy.co.uk/ to find out more

  • @BlueBullsBusiness
    @BlueBullsBusiness Pƙed 3 lety

    How I contact you Sir I want to give you Song

  • @CaryChilton
    @CaryChilton Pƙed 5 lety +1

    plz break down billboard 1 songs on your channel

  • @artistsingerwriterproducer8288

    Regards

  • @LarsStroke
    @LarsStroke Pƙed 3 lety

    First Video I watch from you. Subscribed! So many Songwriters I can't listen to...

  • @acharich
    @acharich Pƙed 5 lety +1

    Brilliant stuff Sir..! 🎯 Always interesting actually understanding what makes songs work, being that most times, I just write them intuitively.. đŸ”„ A lot of what u are saying lines up perfectly.. 💯 - @Acharich

  • @jaredSPC
    @jaredSPC Pƙed 4 lety +7

    Questions we we all fall asleep where do we go??

  • @princelazavevo1864
    @princelazavevo1864 Pƙed 3 lety

    Pleasant good morning to you sir i am prince from Jamaica i enjoy watching your video I'm struggling to write chorus and verses i just need some help i like reggae music and dancehall I'm interested to learn

  • @ANRO_ANRO
    @ANRO_ANRO Pƙed 4 lety +3

    I love it how they talk so much about it but they never show any examples...

  • @Dora23Jan
    @Dora23Jan Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Please upload it again.nits not available

  • @ronnieDshman18
    @ronnieDshman18 Pƙed 3 lety

    If you’re thinking of writing a chorus using the advice in this video then maybe you should use it to write a chorus.

  • @bjarnyg
    @bjarnyg Pƙed 3 lety

    so how many great choruses have you written?;-)

  • @TheBoyNextDoorrr
    @TheBoyNextDoorrr Pƙed 2 lety

    My problem is that I can write a verse and a pre chorus but when I get to the chorus I just can't make it into a melodic tune

  • @IceBlaqBeatsOfficial
    @IceBlaqBeatsOfficial Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    ✅💓💝💕💝💓✅

  • @LarsStroke
    @LarsStroke Pƙed 3 lety +1

    But unfortunately the link below does not work anymore :-(

  • @handicappuccino8491
    @handicappuccino8491 Pƙed 2 lety

    Verse one
    My rage very intense even though my philosophy was complete nonsense Are used to embrace toxic masculinity but eventually Accepted The fact that that it would not benefit me
    - [ ] Corus and Just like how Cupid spread love everywhere I will show all my dates well that I hold dear I may not know what my type is yet but I promise you will find I am left evil chapter that Really far behind
    - [ ] Verse two
    - [ ] I wanted To rule in a way that is extremely krool and am handicapped so I was defeated from the start but that doesn’t matter now that had total A change of heart
    - [ ] Bridge
    - [ ] I was very persistent even though I was inconsistent even though I hated romance I wanted to move to Paris France That makes no sense
    - [ ] Corus
    - [ ] so just like how Cupid spread love everywhere I’ll treat all my dates well that I hold dear I may not know what my type is yet but I promise That I left that evil chapter really far behind
    The cord progression is GaGDA

  • @poesypoet
    @poesypoet Pƙed 4 lety +14

    A child talks with her father
    it was terrorists were told
    the child she doesn't know it
    off to war now Dad must go
    but before this time is over
    there is something he must say
    there something he must tell his child
    that breaks his heart today
    remember me when I'm no longer with you
    remember me then and these words that i say
    remember me now and how much i love you
    remember me please that's all that i pray
    a bride walks with her father
    down the isle now they both stroll
    as they arrive up at the alter
    the time has come to let her go
    there is something he must tell her
    before he gives his little girl away
    and as a tear rolled down his cheek
    he spoke these words that day
    remember me when I'm no longer with you
    remember me then and these words that i say
    remember me now and how much i love you
    remember me please that's all that i pray
    a family walks to the grave site
    no one talks along the way
    hand in hand they walk together
    there silent sorrow shared today
    as they gather at the headstone
    through teary eyes they can see
    carved in stone each one remembers
    their fathers eulogy
    remember me when I'm no longer with you
    remember me then and these words that i say
    remember me now and how much i love you
    remember me please that's all that i pray

    • @austromnot6740
      @austromnot6740 Pƙed 4 lety

      did you write this?-

    • @poesypoet
      @poesypoet Pƙed 4 lety

      @@austromnot6740 Yes I wrote it you can read more at poesypoet.com

    • @leroydanny4072
      @leroydanny4072 Pƙed 3 lety

      Can i use this for a song in the future ???
      If you don’t have a use for it

    • @poesypoet
      @poesypoet Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@leroydanny4072 Did Leonardo lend out the Mona Lisa like some two bit side show. No harm in asking but that's a ridiculous request to ask a song writer "If you don't have a use for it" Did Leonardo paint the Mona Lisa just for the fun of it. Just to make myself clear no you can't use my lyrics unless your willing to purchase them.

  • @unpolishedyablo3140
    @unpolishedyablo3140 Pƙed 3 lety

    what do you think about rocking for a little while wouldve been a banger too hahaha

  • @andrewdenine1685
    @andrewdenine1685 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Great video but I dissagre with obvious point and direction. Some songs don't mean anything and were made for that verry purpose to give the listeners a blank canvas so they have there own point of view about the peice. Look at the beatles people too this day argue what some of those songs are about.

    • @prudencemuchada7424
      @prudencemuchada7424 Pƙed 3 lety

      Thanks

    • @i_am_an_idiot_but
      @i_am_an_idiot_but Pƙed 3 lety +1

      This has to do with abstract lyrics too, like that of Radiohead. To most people, their lyrics might be strange and meaningless, but the purpose was for people to find their own meaning.

  • @jeffreymorris2673
    @jeffreymorris2673 Pƙed 4 lety

    Google "The BPM's Jeff Morris Official Video." It's a great biker song. I wrote the lyrics for this song. Tell me what you think of the chorus of the song.

  • @boertush
    @boertush Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

    The statement of "you're beautiful" wasn't that clear because according James Blunt himself the song is about stalking your ex in the underground while being high

  • @Michaeltison7
    @Michaeltison7 Pƙed 4 lety

    Another tip for people if u really want to make a hit everytime just put your chorus in the beginning of the song and people won’t give af about what u say next😂

  • @teachingallchildrenacademy2648

    Its called a ballad, not a "I love you song".

  • @officialWWM
    @officialWWM Pƙed 4 lety

    Don't bore us, get to the chorus...