Why Did I Buy Two Bad Blades? Gerber Pledge

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  • @Ron-Ton_78
    @Ron-Ton_78 Před měsícem +6

    In case anyone is still interested in this knife. I just got one today and there are no issues with either centering or the blade being cocked. Feels really nice in the hand. Lock up is perfect also.

  • @notfixingit
    @notfixingit Před rokem +24

    This doesn't surprise me, any knife under $100 I've bought from Gerber was junk in one way or another in the last 15 years

    • @charlessalmond7076
      @charlessalmond7076 Před rokem +5

      Try the Principle fixed blade. Its American made and 65 bucks. I liked the first one I bought so much I bought a second one.

    • @eyeofthetiger4184
      @eyeofthetiger4184 Před rokem +4

      Fair enough mate, I can understand why you'd say that, though I must say the "Gator" folding and fixed models are an exception IMO, admittedly I have the, (I believe discontinued), premo versions in S30, but I'd still be confident the 420HC jobs represent really good value. Without looking it up, I seem to remember 154 variants too. Speaking of 420HC, the Strongarm is no slouch either. Cheers Duke.

    • @notfixingit
      @notfixingit Před rokem +2

      @@eyeofthetiger4184 I didn't even really think about fix blades when I said that, you got me on that one (especially strongarm).. As for the Gator folder though, I had the 154cm version at one point and the blade broke about two weeks in, Gerber did replace it at the time blaming a bad heat treat batch but I sold the replacement off.. Probably not the fairest assessment but I just didn't trust it.

    • @eyeofthetiger4184
      @eyeofthetiger4184 Před rokem +1

      @@notfixingit Again, fair enough, and thanks for the reply, you can only call it as you see it mate and in fairness it was initially a folder review after all.
      Dont think I have anything in 154, but its supposed to be decent mid range stuff, do you reckon that was Gerber specific 154 that failed, or 154 in general is overrated ?
      FYI, I have given the Gator S30 jobs a fair ol' beating, for their size anyway, without incident and the ergos are outstanding in a downpour; of all the models to discontinue..............
      At the end of the day I think we both agree they need to lift across the whole range to be competitive going forward. I can only hope they steady, (or perhaps refloat), the ship with products one can rely on.

    • @Miller_Time
      @Miller_Time Před rokem +1

      @@eyeofthetiger4184 completely agree, my dad had a Gator when I was a kid and always liked it

  • @McRcFly
    @McRcFly Před 8 měsíci +10

    I just bought one today in Australia it was part of a pack with a gerber dime for $49 Aud..
    Mine has the black blade.
    It is straight and the action is smooth.
    Mabey they listened to you mate 👍

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  Před 8 měsíci

      I hope so!

    • @markc5960
      @markc5960 Před 5 měsíci

      Or you're just lucky but 33-50% are not good odds.

    • @adriant295
      @adriant295 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I was looking at the same pack 👍

    • @deanparkes4644
      @deanparkes4644 Před 2 měsíci

      I bought the same item today at Anaconda. Great price. Does the alignment of the blade to the handle affect its use? No! Bang for bucks!

  • @realbroggo
    @realbroggo Před rokem +3

    Just an idea - maybe some large photos from your recent travels might be good for your background (on the horizontal boards which are currently bare). Some great outdoors shots to make us all jealous. Thanks once again for your vids.

  • @connorhawkins306
    @connorhawkins306 Před rokem +3

    I picked mine up last year during a Christmas special for $7 (3 knives for $20). At that price this thing is awesome, but funny enough, mine had the same kinked off issue. Loved your edit in this video 🤣

  • @dougbotimer8005
    @dougbotimer8005 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Got one recently as a birthday gift. I’m pleased to be able to say mine has none of the problems you encounter, nor any other design or manufacturing issues I’ve noticed. I did remove the pocket clip as it create a significant hot spot for me. The pocket clip is also unnecessary as I’ll be carrying this knife in a deep coat pocket. The handle, sans pocket clip, feel great. The blade and handle design of the Pledge make for a good utility knife. And the 7cr… is not an issues, as my Arkansas stones and strop are always handy. I’m thinking Gerber was listening. Thanks for bringing attention to problems as well a features of some nice budget tools.

  • @tavinschempp441
    @tavinschempp441 Před rokem +1

    I have a few Gerber knives and all of them have problem's and I will never wast my money on one again good video keep up the good work

  • @nealb3298
    @nealb3298 Před rokem

    I got one for Christmas from my son. Mine also makes a right hand turn at the pivot, looking down the back of the spine. Never noticed it till I seen your review.

  • @2ballsyourjaws
    @2ballsyourjaws Před rokem +9

    I completely disassembled mine and put it back together and it is way better after doing so. It's definitely straightened out a bit more than it was

    • @Rusty_Shackleford1
      @Rusty_Shackleford1 Před rokem +1

      Should be good from the factory.

    • @2ballsyourjaws
      @2ballsyourjaws Před rokem

      @@Rusty_Shackleford1 they all come from the factory pretty wonky did you not see the video

    • @Rusty_Shackleford1
      @Rusty_Shackleford1 Před rokem

      @@2ballsyourjaws I watched the video. What did you think my reply meant? The point is that you should not have to disassemble and reassemble a knife to have an acceptable product.
      It is not the customers' job to do QC for the factory.

    • @2ballsyourjaws
      @2ballsyourjaws Před rokem

      @@Rusty_Shackleford1 oh I guess I misunderstood but yes you are absolutely right I shouldn't have to it's the only time I've had problematic Gerber products so far

    • @Rusty_Shackleford1
      @Rusty_Shackleford1 Před rokem

      @@2ballsyourjaws All good.

  • @505peedpoppers
    @505peedpoppers Před rokem +1

    I got this last year in a stocking pack ....blade had a small warp ...still loved it ...bought another one this year ...no defects ..

  • @RealBoiJare
    @RealBoiJare Před měsícem

    I got one today in a combo package that includes the Gerber Dime Multi tool for around $35 USD today. I didn’t notice any of the issues you mentioned here with my knife

  • @JAMESGREGORYKULP1985
    @JAMESGREGORYKULP1985 Před rokem +1

    The Last good Gerber pocket knife that I got was the Gerber shark belly pocket knife. That pocket knife nailed everything. Great blade and great quality control.

  • @rogueinvestor2375
    @rogueinvestor2375 Před rokem +7

    Gerber makes low end Chinese brands like Eafengrow or Ganzo look like premium brands.

  • @stazzychristopher7083
    @stazzychristopher7083 Před rokem +1

    Wow you really can see the bow. Thanks for sharing, I almost was going to get myself one…

  • @northeastrebel439
    @northeastrebel439 Před rokem +5

    Dude that thing is bowing like a 747!

    • @hlhl2691
      @hlhl2691 Před 4 měsíci +1

      The comment aged well

  • @jimmythegent9190
    @jimmythegent9190 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I sharped mine out the box and works great for boxes and rope cutting.

  • @vinnyavalanche
    @vinnyavalanche Před 2 měsíci +1

    I've really been loving my new Gerber quadrant. They have rel3ased a black bamboo handle version. It's sweet razer sharp out of the box to. I also carry a buck 102 woodsman cause you always need a fixed blade.

  • @deadahead2604
    @deadahead2604 Před rokem +5

    I learned my lesson years ago to stay away from Gerber. Every single gerber I ever bought had QC issues.

  • @BTT16
    @BTT16 Před rokem +3

    That bowing of the blade is unfortunate. I still may pick 2 of these up. I really dig the simple, minimal, streamlined aesthetics of this knife.

  • @tacticalcenter8658
    @tacticalcenter8658 Před rokem +3

    Dont expect anything good below $30 and even at $30 its hard to find something really good cause most of it is dog water.
    My kershaw natrix was bowed. Crap knife. Instead of fixing it they shipped it and put more washers on one side to make it fit right. So they knew it was bad.

  • @taylorfishman823
    @taylorfishman823 Před rokem +6

    I laughed when I saw that you had two of them, as I do too.
    The first one I got had a blade that went sideways from the pivot just like your second one, and while the blade itself was not bowed, it's definitely...a bit wavy. None of that was a deal breaker for me at the price point, though it's crappy, and I have seen countless similarly priced knives without these problems. However, I went to Gerber for a replacement because after about half a day of use, the liner lock started traveling all the way to the other liner and getting stuck so badly that I had to use a pry bar to unlock it. This kept happening over and over again. I thought that if I just broke it in, it would eventually stop. (Obviously I tried to adjust the screws, take it apart and reassemble, etc.) It got a little better, but even now several months later it still gets locked up and travels all the way over at least a tenth of the times I deploy it; seems to happen if I flick it too hard or not hard enough lol.
    So after a few months, I finally got the replacement in the mail. So far it hasn't had the lock stick issue, but the blade on this one also cants to the side. I guess that's just a feature of this knife! The edge on the replacement is disappointing, considering how surprised I was with how sharp the first one was (could shave hair out of the box). There is a little bit of lock stick on the new one, but the lockbar isn't traveling all the way over like on the other, and I'm fairly sure that this lock stick will wear out with some more use.
    It's a real bummer because they could have had a massive winner with this one. It's so aesthetically well-designed, there's so much potential! As someone who grew up with his dad always telling him that Gerber made the best knives out there, I keep trying to give them chances to redeem themselves and they keep disappointing. While I know they do make some models in the USA, I have many other options to choose from in that price range and their other offerings are so shoddy that it tarnishes the brand and leaves me uninterested in spending that much on anything bearing their logo.
    But oh well...I guess for about $20 at my local sporting goods store I ended up getting two knives that look cool and, while far, far from perfect, would be adequate for most of my EDC needs if that were all I cared about.

    • @mk.1175
      @mk.1175 Před rokem

      Look up CRESCENT 3.5

    • @comatoasted82
      @comatoasted82 Před rokem

      Lol I have two also. In gray and white. I use them for light duty needs, so in the situations I use them in they work fine.

  • @rubenbotha4594
    @rubenbotha4594 Před rokem +8

    Just picked up a pledge + mullet tool in a combo pack together for $25, will update y’all on the knife in due time 🙂

  • @ANIML57
    @ANIML57 Před rokem

    Ticks so many boxes. So bummed. Thanks for the review, mate!! Stay up!

  • @jamesruth100
    @jamesruth100 Před 8 měsíci

    I picked one up today for my little brother since it was on sale for Black Friday; he's a southpaw and I'm not, and as such, almost all the knives I've given him (typically from my collection) don't match his dominant hand, and I was hoping this would be a nice change of pace for him since it's ambidextrous.
    The blade is perfectly straight with no bowing, so it's possible that they got QC under control, or I might've just gotten lucky. Regardless, I gotta say, it feels shockingly good in the hand; if this knife was in anything other than 7cr17mov, they could've gotten away charging quite a bit more. I really like that they went with a thumb shelf instead of a thumb stud; it may not be perfectly level with the spine, but it feels nice to have a little extra width when choking up.
    For what I paid, I think it's probably one of the better budget knives I've handled-nowhere near the best, but I'd say it's on the upper half of the bell curve.

  • @IMKINDOFABIGDEAL13
    @IMKINDOFABIGDEAL13 Před rokem +1

    Mines pretty straight. I like knives at this price point for work. It’s fun to flip and I like the blade shape

  • @mom_im_losing_it
    @mom_im_losing_it Před měsícem

    I got one a month ago and its all good noe bowing and the pivot is centered its a really good knife for the price since it seem yo be fixed.

  • @Fuppet
    @Fuppet Před rokem +3

    Just picked one up, mines dead straight and for the price I'm very happy with it. It actually looks great in my collection next time so very high dollar knives.

  • @johnnyshanksalot8358
    @johnnyshanksalot8358 Před rokem +22

    I don't get buying 'knives' in those wildly unusable steels when there's 9cr and so on at that price. Those Gerber budget models literally make S&W look fancy and high performance by comparison. 7cr is like Aus 6, it'll take an edge and fool you into thinking it's a knife... until you try to make more than 3 cuts with it and discover that it holds that edge about as well as aluminum.

    • @johnj6689
      @johnj6689 Před rokem +2

      Here's a CZcams edge retention test of AUS-6 on a Crawford Kasper by CRKT czcams.com/video/JhZFqMEVs1E/video.html.
      You're also talking about a steel that hasn't been on knives for almost twenty years. I don't think you know what you're talking about.

    • @johnnyshanksalot8358
      @johnnyshanksalot8358 Před rokem +1

      ​@@johnj6689 Hasn't been on respectable brands for 20 years maybe, ultra-ghetto brands have used it plenty. I've actually owned an old CRKT in aus 6 (don't remember the model name but it was a weird single sided framelock with a chisel ground tanto blade) and it's exactly what I said, wicked sharp until you cut something and then it's an instant butterknife. There's a reason you only see aus 6 on fleamarket knives now, it's not a reasonable knife steel.

    • @johnj6689
      @johnj6689 Před rokem +2

      @@johnnyshanksalot8358 I carry the large BladeLock/Michael Walker model in AUS-6 and I have no complaints. Not to mention I collect the older stuff from CRKT from the 1990's-early 2000's era. If standard steels don't hold an edge long enough for you then fine but don't make up stories for your own agenda because that edge retention test video on cardboard proves you're lying.

    • @johnnyshanksalot8358
      @johnnyshanksalot8358 Před rokem +1

      @@johnj6689 That 1 anecdotal video of it acting like a super steel makes no sense to me. Personal experience and the many different people who have systematically tested these steels against each other say otherwise. My guess would be Chicom clone in D2. Even if it's legit and someone once managed to perform some miraculous heat treat on a nonrepresentative unicorn of an aus 6 knife then great but it's still like a 'good' heat treat on 420 or 4116, polishing a turd for no reason when perfectly reasonable budget steels are cheap and widely available.

    • @ucitymetalhead
      @ucitymetalhead Před rokem

      Well a butter knife is still technically a knife.

  • @AlfredRusselWallace778
    @AlfredRusselWallace778 Před měsícem

    6/20/2024 impulse buy at my local wally world.. i can know see the "defects"you pointed out. Thanks for the review.

  • @ka1s3r_29
    @ka1s3r_29 Před rokem +3

    Have you emailed gerber about it? When my centerdrives pliers broke I just sent them pictures and got a new one.

  • @mplsatty
    @mplsatty Před rokem

    I picked up a Pledge, mine has the off-center pivot issue. I was already iffy about the 7Cr, but okay, for a utility/box opener, fine. But not with that cant to the side --- throws off the alignment of the tip. Not sure if I'll return or keep it as a warning to myself about Gerber's budget blades...

  • @AhmedAli-aaa
    @AhmedAli-aaa Před rokem +2

    Hi can you make a video about Civivi elementum ether with the D2 or with the S35vn steel

  • @thomasmaloney843
    @thomasmaloney843 Před rokem +1

    Might want to look at Gerber E Z Out and LST. Made in USA. This reminds me of Kershaw Random Leek.

  • @KonClueZhen
    @KonClueZhen Před rokem +1

    Great review my dude. Thanks for the heads up

  • @Chambelona59
    @Chambelona59 Před rokem +1

    The 'ole wrist flick. LMAO.

  • @adamedwards3921
    @adamedwards3921 Před rokem

    I like this design but I don't like how they made a half axis lock they should have went all the way instead of half ass. And now as I write this you mentioned the bow . Gerber has dropped the ball with heat treat , I bought the machete combo the large and mid sized, and I was clear cutting my fence line ,the thickest brush I was going through was 5/8-3/4 inch and 5 minutes ini looked at my blade and it completely rolled over . I think I could have done better with aluminum foil , or the harbor freight machete. Also a while back I bought the square and the Para set and the square rolled while I was basically feather sticking. I love my strongarm tho I haven't had an issue so far very good hunting and camping kinfe

  • @gladeshunter8796
    @gladeshunter8796 Před rokem +7

    60 plus dollar Civivi I recently purchased has a noticeably warped blade as well but perfect centering . Detent and action isn’t very good either . Disappointing to say the least . Pretty much ensures I won’t buy another . I’m going to beat on it like it owes me money from here on out .

    • @chefboiarby304
      @chefboiarby304 Před rokem +1

      Seems like you got a dud. Things like that seem to be the exception and not the rule with Civivi whereas Gerber is the opposite. My Civivi Praxis has the best bearing action in my collection.

    • @hunterglaspell
      @hunterglaspell Před rokem

      @@chefboiarby304 not really. It’s become more common with them and similar brands. I have a cjrb crag with a warped blade like the gerber, as well as late lockup and horrible bearing action (even after disassembly).

  • @E.L.RipleyAtNostromo
    @E.L.RipleyAtNostromo Před rokem +1

    I’ve seen that sloppy bow before, usually on cheap slipjoints, but not too many liner locks. Just lousy work that never should have passed QC. For a great knife in the $20’s or low $30 something get a Ruike P801. I think I paid $26 for mine, and it’s an excellent stainless steel knife.

  • @matthewalder8035
    @matthewalder8035 Před rokem +1

    Poor tolerances. Cool design, and thin blade which is nice. No surprise from the brand.

  • @TheKalkara131
    @TheKalkara131 Před rokem +1

    Any chance you could check out The Nero from Warrior Poet Society? $60 EDC knife, drop point D2, liner lock, G-10 handles

  • @kjgas6945
    @kjgas6945 Před rokem

    Thank you for the review

  • @chillios2222
    @chillios2222 Před rokem +1

    the base cold steel tantos used to be a bargain, the kobuns

  • @ericfite5670
    @ericfite5670 Před rokem +2

    Gerber QC has gone to crap the last few years, even on their U.S. models. I'll never buy another one.

  • @guykulwanoski1629
    @guykulwanoski1629 Před rokem +1

    Awesome backdrop!

  • @snickersnee15
    @snickersnee15 Před 2 měsíci +1

    That's crazy. Mine is fine, no bend. It's a new favorite

  • @mirekbns
    @mirekbns Před 8 měsíci +1

    Unfortunate because it is a nice design and great price. Good thing I saw the review before ordering.

  • @nnhandcraftedknives7228
    @nnhandcraftedknives7228 Před rokem +4

    Have you checked out Honey Badger knives? Great quality and value.

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  Před rokem +2

      No I will look into them

    • @chefboiarby304
      @chefboiarby304 Před rokem

      Yeah, they have a lot more options now for different colors, blade steels, blade shapes, and now even handle scale materials.

  • @chrisjosekuehl
    @chrisjosekuehl Před rokem +4

    You can’t have your cake and eat it too. If you want a budget folder that will impress and never let you down go with a Ontario Rat 1, get the aus8, it’s way better done than the d2. I did just pick up a cjrb with their recoil lock, excellent fit and finish, d2 steel, ball bearings and flipper. For less than $40 it’s one hell of a knife.

    • @DinoDIY
      @DinoDIY Před rokem +1

      I am perfectly satisfied wth very cheap FreeTiger folders, under 20$, D2 G10, perfect action, nice finish....

    • @eyeofthetiger4184
      @eyeofthetiger4184 Před rokem

      G'day Christopher, yep the RAT-1 in AUS-8 is still fantastic value IMO too. Yes I do need to tune up the edge fairly regularly, but its a tough edge and well built in general.
      I went with the CRJB Tiaga in D2 as an experiment, (quite salty, rainy and at times humid here), the edge rust spotted up within 3 days out of the packaging, hadn't even used it yet, lol.. Cant say the edge holding is anything stellar, its ok. I really dig the design though for a plain budget EDC job and no reason to think their other models would represent any less value. Cheers Duke.

  • @stevenh4669
    @stevenh4669 Před rokem +2

    Just bought a SVORD mini because I saw an old video from Wranglerstar in my feed, as simple as it can be but really great, you should check those out.

    • @finck2208
      @finck2208 Před rokem +1

      I have a bunch of them. Really useful and hard to beat for the $

  • @dennishughes5165
    @dennishughes5165 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Mine is perfect. Plus its 20$ so if it cuts good and looks good why is it such a big deal anyway....

  • @virgilbarnett3770
    @virgilbarnett3770 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Mine perfectly centered and has a perfectly straight blade. You must have got a bad batch.

  • @greekveteran2715
    @greekveteran2715 Před rokem +2

    Best edc knife I ever had, is the Manly Patriot. Very similar desing to this folder, only the tip isn't the same. What I want to say, is that nothing beats simplicity, for versatile general use knife. That simplicity, is what provides the versatility such a knife should have.

  • @mk.1175
    @mk.1175 Před rokem +1

    DUDE.. YOU MOST DO A VIDEO ON THE CRESCENT 3.5 HARPOON KNIFE IN D2 STEEL..AROUND 24$...FROM CRESCENT TOOL MAKER

  • @karllager2214
    @karllager2214 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the $54 garberg tip!

  • @fwrose6272
    @fwrose6272 Před rokem +3

    Almost had me sold. Looks cool. Until the Bow. I’ll Stick with my USA made shark belly from them 👍

    • @williampurvis3927
      @williampurvis3927 Před rokem

      The only knife I know of that rivels Gerber in being consistindt. Junk, is crikt.

  • @edcgearpocketknife
    @edcgearpocketknife Před rokem +2

    Stay away from gerber knives 🔪 they look nice but there is always something wrong. M-tech makes better knives and uses better steel and even use bearings for 20 bones. I’ll take a m-tech over a gerber

  • @ucitymetalhead
    @ucitymetalhead Před rokem

    I bought a budget knife a while back from buck and it was the cheapest feeling thing I've ever had worse than the gas station knife someone bought me.

  • @sporg919
    @sporg919 Před rokem

    Sounds about right for their $20 stuff. That's too bad cuz I really liked the look of this one

  • @preparedsurvivalist2245
    @preparedsurvivalist2245 Před rokem +1

    It is from the same company that brought us the Bear Grylls survival knives...arguably the worst knives on the planet besides those caveman knives they sell on social media with the finger hole in the blade.

  • @michaelhulsey201
    @michaelhulsey201 Před 7 měsíci

    Mine has the bow, but it really doesn't bother me. Overall it's a good, functional knife and that bow doesn't affect usability for me. For my money, the bow isn't a reason not to buy the knife if you otherwise like it. Happy with mine and it only cost $24. I think you'd be pressed to find a significantly better knife at that price point.

  • @bjgabriel101
    @bjgabriel101 Před 11 měsíci

    Just grabbed one and it’s dead nuts straight. Woooo hooooo!!!!

  • @matthewhall8790
    @matthewhall8790 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Looks good, but isn't good. Buy American. You can get a Buck 112 Slim for about 30, made in America.

  • @NestingSpider
    @NestingSpider Před 10 měsíci +1

    Mine is fine...very nice, no complaints...

  • @jeffslaven
    @jeffslaven Před rokem

    I have had several issues with Gerber products in the past, and no longer buy them, nor recommend them.

  • @kevinengstrom1316
    @kevinengstrom1316 Před rokem +1

    Gerber strikes again, 😂

  • @talmccollum3153
    @talmccollum3153 Před rokem

    Hey Gerber an crit ,kershaw knives are great knives

  • @eyeofthetiger4184
    @eyeofthetiger4184 Před rokem +3

    G'day Aaron, like the "thumb tab" idea, haven't seen it done quite like that before and yep nice lines too, but man either one of those issues would really P155 me off, even on a budget job.
    I often wonder how many of these, inexpensive, lets say, sub-par things, does one need to sell to make a profit.............. I can understand the concept of "high demand, low profit margin" though even with impulse buying, surely you're not gonna get return customers + it taints the overall brand. With simple word of mouth and the honest segment, (thanks once again Aaron), of social media too, many are not gonna buy it in the first place anyway, so the high demand part of the equation goes out the window. Anyone got a logical explanation ? only thing I can think of is offset the decent, well selling models, with who cares rubbish as some sort of tax dodge overall. Cheers Duke.

    • @powers1776reset
      @powers1776reset Před rokem +1

      Retailer contracts. That’s where the money is. They don’t give a sh*t about these budget lines, nor the consumer who buys that garbage. They don’t need or have to, because they got the Wal-Mart contract again. And the Academy Sports contract, again. And the Cabellas/Bass Pro contract, again. You get the point.

    • @eyeofthetiger4184
      @eyeofthetiger4184 Před rokem

      @@powers1776reset Thanks for the reply mate, that makes sense, albeit a real shame. Now that you mention it, it's definitely noticeable with hardware chain stores in particular. I guess not so bad for those of us that have the experience, do the research, check out honest reviewers and such, but Joe Average cops it once again, probably the demographic that can least afford a to make a poor purchasing decision, and then there's the young folks wanting to pursue the outdoors, sounds like a good way to put 'em off to me, not to mention potentially dangerous with a dodgy cheapo tent for example.

    • @Rusty_Shackleford1
      @Rusty_Shackleford1 Před rokem +1

      The people in the market for a $20 knife does not care. They are not "knife guys" who have 50 different knives that they take apart and oil once a week to keep them running perfectly smooth.
      Chances are the last knife they had was a $5 gas station knife that you could barely call a "knife". They say: "It looks cool and cuts stuff. That is all I need. My buddy had a gerber multitool he was issued in the army so it must be good".
      Companies know this and make knives to fit that market.

    • @eyeofthetiger4184
      @eyeofthetiger4184 Před rokem +1

      @@Rusty_Shackleford1 G'day mate, thanks for taking the time to reply and yep I hear ya. In fairness you can get some cheaper knives, tools, and other commodities, that will do ok and even fulfill a need over many years. Bargain hunting is an art in itself I reckon, but totally concur, not so much with a gas station knife, ...... they should all be blown up, lol.
      I'm not suggesting that every item off the shelf needs to be "pro" grade, but man, a company like Gerber, and many others, don't do themselves any favors with very crooked blades for example, even on the low end of things.
      And yep, not all that is military is good stuff either, or at least justifies it's price. (I used to work in Def logistics for 30 odd years, but that's a whole other story).
      Thanks again for the reply, the more folks that draw attention to these absolute crap products, and indeed the thinking behind it, the better. Good luck to you. Cheers Duke.

  • @victork7831
    @victork7831 Před rokem

    If you look at your knife collection. You will find that most blades are warped. I'm sure this happens during heat treat. I'm not sure what can be done when the stock is thin. I'm not familiar with the process with mass produced folders. Do they heat treat first then grind? So what is the manufacture doing to do? Throw out all of the warped blades? You would think they would have a quality check after final assembly to weed out the severely warped ones. But that would add the to final cost of course, but what do I know.

    • @chefboiarby304
      @chefboiarby304 Před rokem

      I have probably at least 25 budget blades under $50 in my collection and none of them have a bowed/bent blade (at least not anywhere near as noticeable as that Gerber).

    • @victork7831
      @victork7831 Před rokem

      @@chefboiarby304 Awesome, the manufacture of those knives did not sacrifice or cut corners on quality. My main point is that I don't know why there was not any controls on the blades before they were shipped out the door. Or better yet before they were assembled. A technician with a machinist square could of weeded out most of them. And what would that of added to the cost? A dollar?

  • @kevlarrapps6368
    @kevlarrapps6368 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Too many complaints from people for a $20 knife. Cmon people its $20

  • @mitchellduncklee7182
    @mitchellduncklee7182 Před 20 dny

    I just bought one today, damn near perfect. My only issue is the inside edge of the scales all the way around are kinda sharp. But for a knife that’s less than $25 complaining about that is kinda bitchy

  • @msharmall7298
    @msharmall7298 Před rokem

    People are going to hate me for saying this, but the Spyderco Tenacious has this exact problem too. It's hilarious, all the youtubers are like "huh, they all seem consistently off center to the right a little" Gee... I wonder why? Look down the spine........... Almost every Spyderco Tenacious has a warped blade. Also... Another interesting fact people aren't going to like, that slight (or not so slight) warp in the blade actually makes it feel like it's cutting better. THAT is why blades/models with this issue seem to cut surprisingly well.

  • @richardkut3976
    @richardkut3976 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thanks

  • @mixonmixon2723
    @mixonmixon2723 Před rokem +1

    Oh oh! I was about to purchase one and seen this. As always great vid, god bless!

  • @chillios2222
    @chillios2222 Před rokem +1

    if you get a chance review the Kobun or post a link to your review, it is heavily reviewed on YT but why not

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  Před rokem +1

      I will get one soon.

    • @chillios2222
      @chillios2222 Před rokem

      @@gideonstactical cool I think you will like it but Im looking forward to the review , I do like mine it wont hurt my feelings if you smash it lol lol

  • @clintonlewis1261
    @clintonlewis1261 Před rokem

    Yeah I could see the bow in blade 😳☹️.

  • @alexfrederick9019
    @alexfrederick9019 Před rokem +1

    Considering mine was free, it does everything I've asked it to do, the Pledge that is. Sorry that one was bowed, mine is not. Its completely straight tip to butt. I'm not working hard these days and this is much easier to carry than my typical Cold Steel Recon1 or AD10. If i had to abuse a knife i would grab something that can take it. For the jobs i would use this dress knife for, its a good deal, at least for the cost. The steel is junk and needs sharpened constantly, but its a $20 knife.

  • @AffordableArmory
    @AffordableArmory Před rokem +1

    That sounds like typical Gerber to me. So sad.

  • @DallasDashcammer
    @DallasDashcammer Před rokem +3

    @1:01 "Chinese alphabet soup steel" LOL. I now shy away from these Chinese steels since, on recommendation from a knife channel, I bought a Ruike P841 with 14C28N for $40. The edge has chipped many times and rolls easily so I continually have to sharpen it. And I haven't put it through hard use. I've opened boxes, cut some cardboard, scored some soft pine shims to break off, etc.

    • @chefboiarby304
      @chefboiarby304 Před rokem +1

      But 14C28N is a Swedish Sandvik steel, not a Chinese steel. Also, it may not have been the steel in that case, but rather a poor heat treat (burned edge?). 14C28N is generally regarded as an excellent budget steel at around $50 or less with many preferring it over D2 for the same price. Assuming you didn't absolutely beat on the edge, you probably just got a dud.

    • @DallasDashcammer
      @DallasDashcammer Před rokem +1

      @@chefboiarby304 I stand corrected. I guess I should have said that I shy away from buying Chinese made knives (most of which have the alphabet soup steel) although I have many already and the D2 ones seem to hold up better. I know most of the budget knives are Chinese made and are all the rage right now on the knife channels.

  • @jeffreybarton1297
    @jeffreybarton1297 Před rokem +1

    I stopped buying any Gerber's several years ago.
    Blades kept chipping and snapping, and even one of their multitools snapped a spring that was meant to make the pliers spring back.
    Their knives look great, but their blade steel is shit.
    It's a pity.

    • @charlessalmond7076
      @charlessalmond7076 Před rokem +1

      Try the Principle fixed blade. American made, 65 bucks. I've batoned oak, hickory, and pine with one for the last year or so. No issues.

    • @jeffreybarton1297
      @jeffreybarton1297 Před rokem +1

      @@charlessalmond7076 Thanks for the recommendation. Just looked at some pictures of the Principle. Nice looking knife, with a neat sheath. I'll check out some reviews. If I could get that at a decent price it would make a good self defence option.

    • @charlessalmond7076
      @charlessalmond7076 Před rokem

      @@jeffreybarton1297 no problem sir. I was the same way. I had walked away from Gerber in the early 90's. Its nice to see a company try to get their legs back.

    • @jeffreybarton1297
      @jeffreybarton1297 Před rokem +1

      @@charlessalmond7076 Yes. I think their main bugbears are using poor steel in their cheaper knives, and quality control issues. Both of these are quite simple to cure. CRKT manage it, and Cold Steel 👍

  • @hunterglaspell
    @hunterglaspell Před rokem

    Most of my knives, including brands like spyderco (their tenacious is bad about it), benchmade, cjrb (I have a crag with a nasty warp), mora (I don’t own a single mora that doesn’t have a warped blade), have warped blades. In fact, most knives do have warped blades, many of the warps are just super subtle. It’s bad with every brand unfortunately.

    • @eriktaylor5704
      @eriktaylor5704 Před rokem

      Shocked to hear a Mora is warped. I own three different Mora models (Basic 511, Robust, and Companion HD) and they are all straight as an arrow. Mora say it isn’t so.

    • @hunterglaspell
      @hunterglaspell Před rokem

      @@eriktaylor5704 I’m telling you man. I have a 511, heavy duty companion, and a companion. All have bows of different severities. I’ve had the 511 and heavy duty for years, so it isn’t a new thing. Most of my friends moras I’ve seen are like that too. Opinel is bad about it to. It’s not an uncommon issue. It just depends on the severity.

  • @TopDog8762
    @TopDog8762 Před rokem +1

    Gerber quality, an oxymoron 🤣🤣🤣

  • @charlescollier7217
    @charlescollier7217 Před rokem +1

    One word: Gerber.

  • @tombrown4683
    @tombrown4683 Před rokem +1

    Is that a Tops Steel Eagle mounted in the wall ?
    Oh yeah don't waste your money on Gerber. Budget or otherwise. Too many good Ganzos, Sitivian, CJRB even Efengrows out there. Yes they are Chinese made, not getting a sub $40 knife made in USA.

  • @edrader
    @edrader Před rokem +1

    looks like the ruike that you and i both loved for $30

    • @edrader
      @edrader Před rokem

      czcams.com/video/ZxhJMroixG4/video.html

  • @dubvc1
    @dubvc1 Před rokem +3

    If it works, it works.

  • @starlingblack814
    @starlingblack814 Před rokem +1

    Too bad; it is a good looking blade at an affordable price.

  • @philspencer8251
    @philspencer8251 Před rokem

    i`ll ask again, what happened to "live the trek" channel.

  • @pattrass7692
    @pattrass7692 Před rokem +1

    Hey Arron not gonna lie I’ve disagreed with you on some stuff over the years. As weird at that is for a guy I don’t really know. Just a you tube influencer. And I don’t mean that in a negative way. Just that it’s like being mad at a tv show. But after looking back through your channel and where you started. And becoming this excuse my language (bad ass family man) who lives in my state. You’re a good dude and I appreciate your content and for how stubborn I am I’ve even come to agree with a lot of your opinions on things gear,family,values. But especially how your just trying to Create a good life for you, and yours. Your a good dude brother. And I know this comment will probably never reach you. But just know I’m out here wishing you and yours the best life because you deserve it. P.S. I know your wife is a little camera shy but let her know her opinion is valued because she has a different view on things then us men. Heck my girlfriend feels the same way she does about alot of gear. And that’s important. I think you guys reach a different audience together. And your fabulous together. Because together you guys reach us all male,female what works for both and she’s rare on your channel. But when she speaks up I can honestly say she’s never been wrong. And mostly because she feels real like she could care less if it’s a Benchmade,a fixed blade, a name brand or not she just likes what works for her. I think and no offense to females but there not driven by hype but comfort and that’s a new view that nobody on CZcams but you and her have. I guess I’m just saying I appreciate you both and what you stand for in a morally bankrupt world. YOU AND YOUR’E WIFE ARE REAL. And that’s a rarity. Keep it up my guy CZcams needs you guys.

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  Před rokem

      Thank you so much pat for your kind words and encouragement really appreciate it and I will pass it on to Mrs. GT too. Be blessed my friend and thanks for being part of the GT family.

  • @richardvirchow3390
    @richardvirchow3390 Před rokem +1

    I watched at least 4 other reviews of this knife and nobody found any defect in the blade/pivot that you found. In their videos, I could look down the length of the blades & there was no deformation. You have really bad luck..!

  • @sharpwhits0167
    @sharpwhits0167 Před rokem

    The consistency is why I will not consider any Gerber knife. It's a crap shoot. When you can get a qsp penguin or parrot for just a few dollars more than this knife, it's a no brainer.

  • @TheJoedonbakerfan
    @TheJoedonbakerfan Před rokem +1

    I guess I'm just not expecting that much from a $20 dollar knife.

    • @jeffreybarton1297
      @jeffreybarton1297 Před rokem

      Yes, I'd agree for the most part.
      I have had some gems from China, but it's Russian Roulette, thanks to rubbish quality control.
      I got a couple of Ti-Lite clones from China, they were great. I gave one away and kept the other. About £10 or so each.

    • @chefboiarby304
      @chefboiarby304 Před rokem +1

      Ganzo, Sanrenmu, and QSP have shown that you can get and expect a high quality knife around $30 or even less if you know where to look. Opinel makes a great unique and traditional folder for around $20. Some Victorinox models are under $20 and they all have excellent fit and finish.

    • @jeffreybarton1297
      @jeffreybarton1297 Před rokem

      @@chefboiarby304 Yes, indeed. I have an Opinel (can't remember the model number, but the blade is just over 3 inch) and love it. I altered the handle on the top of the rear end, so it swoops smoothly down, and removed the varnish and linseed oiled it. Then blued the blade (carbon steel version).
      Have a couple of Swiss Army knives too, very good value, and very 'public' friendly. People feel more comfortable when they see me pull out a Swiss Army knife, and terrified when I pull out a Cold Steel knife (I'm in the UK, where a lot of the public have been brainwashed out of knife use).

  • @nathanwoten6236
    @nathanwoten6236 Před měsícem

    I've had the gerber pledge for about 6 months, and i must have got lucky because mine is straight and everything else. I like the knife a lot. I wanted a cheaper knife because i am not easy on knifes and i tend to loose them at work alot (im a diesel mechanic and i work for a large farm / ranch and do alot of work in feilds and what not so i somehow drop jt or leave it siting somewhere idk but ive lost probably 20 knifes in the 6 years since ive been working there) and im talking $150 to $300 knifes a couple cheaper ones but mostly expensive. And i make good money, but with todays economy (thank Biden🖕), i can't afford to keep buying new knives. But i saw the pledge and immediately was drawn to it because i like the reverse tanto or warnclife blade style. And i dont have much negative to say about the knife. Besides, i wish it was a spring assist knife. But that being said, it opens very easily with a flick of your thumb, so it's not a big deal

  • @martinmiller1087
    @martinmiller1087 Před rokem

    The Red Chinese do their best work on bioweapons.

  • @jefferyautry3555
    @jefferyautry3555 Před měsícem

    I got lucky or maybe cause it’s been a couple years mine is perfect

  • @Floridaballer
    @Floridaballer Před 23 dny

    I really like your dark blue 👖 and I like how the thumbstud is wide and looks comfortable

  • @mr.crumbles2557
    @mr.crumbles2557 Před rokem +1

    Man Gerber just can't catch a W 😑

  • @samjaeger2020
    @samjaeger2020 Před rokem +1

    That's Gerber knives for ya, kinda cool designs but garbage quality. What's impressive to me is that they are trash but they're trash at every price point

  • @AlanSpringer2074
    @AlanSpringer2074 Před rokem +2

    I paid 68 bucks for a Gerber fast tanto and noticed that the pivot washers are Teflon plastic. That’s what’s used on 15 dollar knives. I’m very disappointed.

    • @tonyvillarreal3610
      @tonyvillarreal3610 Před rokem

      I've got a black one and a coyote one they are very good working knives

    • @AlanSpringer2074
      @AlanSpringer2074 Před rokem

      @@tonyvillarreal3610 Until a little dirt or sand gets in there and tears those washers up. It happens when you use your knives.

    • @AlanSpringer2074
      @AlanSpringer2074 Před rokem

      I do agree they work fine for now.

  • @KillBoyPowerHead77
    @KillBoyPowerHead77 Před rokem +1

    What the hack is this? QC sucks ... It's a shame because knife looks cool!

  • @Kipricoffical
    @Kipricoffical Před rokem

    mine is fine